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2601  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 06, 2019, 05:40:10 AM
No I am calling you a moron because 7% weekly is in no way an unrealistic return, especially in those days. You pretend like cryptocurrency acts like a classic rational market. All you are doing is looking back with perfect hindsight and exposing your ignorance of the actual market activity of the time.

Cryptocurrency ponzis act exactly the same as any other ponzi. In less than two years he would have compounded more than the total number of bitcoins in existence. But math is for morons, right?


And if you only breathed in your lungs would explode from the pressure. Nice non-sequitur.
2602  Economy / Goods / Someone needs to end these Epstein memes on: December 06, 2019, 05:37:36 AM
They aren’t going to kill themselves



In commemoration of Epstein not killing himself, I have decided to release this shirt design. It is white on an XL black shirt. Shipping to the USA included. Litecoin equivalent accepted. Also if you want a custom vector graphic shirt made, let me know. I can do it! PM me to order.

2603  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 06, 2019, 03:53:42 AM
You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.

Calling OgNasty an utter moron who doesn't know what 7% weekly means? You should be ashamed of yourself.

No I am calling you a moron because 7% weekly is in no way an unrealistic return, especially in those days. You pretend like cryptocurrency acts like a classic rational market. All you are doing is looking back with perfect hindsight and exposing your ignorance of the actual market activity of the time.


That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something

KY do you ever actually spend more than 20 seconds before posting? I didn't  find shit - I quoted twitchy.

FFS son, please leave the adults alone

Kind of an interesting read if you don't mind transcripts: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/pirateat40/secvs.pirateat401.pdf

I should prob stop derailing this thread now


"TL;DR, court documents prove all of my baseless speculation true."

Not baseless speculation, I did my research it's well documented:  here (there's a TLDR; at the bottom of this one if it's too many words for you), here, and here

There's also this:

https://i.gyazo.com/e306d4ed3b3f6ef417db8f44d99e06b7.png

You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.

Dude come on I never said that.  I'm accusing him of lying and being deceptive about what happened after the fact to improve his reputation. I explicitly said I wasn't accusing him of scamming. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg31580963#msg31580963

Please just do you own research so I don't have to keep spelling things out for you.

Please spare me. This is all about impugning OGNasty's character in any way you can manage. Same me the moderate an unbias act. It is easy to look back in retrospect and pretend you would have done everything perfectly. This is a disgusting unending endeavor to drag OG's reputation through the mud. Until any so called victims come forward all this is, is you LARPing as digital Stasi officers. Your motives are transparent.
2604  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Night vision eyedrops allow vision of up to 50m in darkness on: December 05, 2019, 07:22:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX6TJERvch0
2605  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 05, 2019, 07:20:46 PM
That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something

KY do you ever actually spend more than 20 seconds before posting? I didn't  find shit - I quoted twitchy.

FFS son, please leave the adults alone

Kind of an interesting read if you don't mind transcripts: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/pirateat40/secvs.pirateat401.pdf

I should prob stop derailing this thread now


"TL;DR, court documents prove all of my baseless speculation true."

Not baseless speculation, I did my research it's well documented:  here (there's a TLDR; at the bottom of this one if it's too many words for you), here, and here.  

There's also this:

https://i.gyazo.com/e306d4ed3b3f6ef417db8f44d99e06b7.png

You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.
2606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!. on: December 05, 2019, 07:01:26 PM
I don't mind the facial scan for citizens when entering/leaving a country. It's just to prove that you indeed returned/left. You're already providing documents anyway, how bad is a scan? The China face scan for mobile is too much though.

And this is probably already going on for a long time. I remember videos online complaining about face scanning surveillance cameras in UK.

You are only thinking about the purported use application and not the dual or multiple use of such a database existing. First of all, lets not even get into the false positive rates for facial recognition, or other racial differences in its application as that is a whole other long discussion. Just imagine a world where the government seeks to detain you for any number of reasons, lets for the sake of argument pretend the reasons are legitimate. You won't be able to walk down the street, drive down the road, or show your face in public without your face triggering an alarm and telling law enforcement exactly where they can detain you. Now think for a moment what a less than ethical government might do with such technology. Look into some of the existing issues with simple license plate scanners and imagine the implications of this applying to your face.

They probably already have such a database built, with all the face unlock on phones and facial recognition on social media. I understand the implications and it is indeed a slippery slope. The technology itself is harmless and can be used for things like finding missing people, etc.

I don't live in the US, do the public there have a way to stop this from being implemented or a way to reduce the risk of it being misused?

And currently you can still opt out of using such products. You can't really opt out of government and passively collected databases though like they do at the DMV and now airports. People can raise awareness of the endless negative implications of this technology and get legislation passed to protect against it like some states have done. No technology is harmless. You can build a house with a hammer or you can cave some one's head in with it. This gives the hammer no moral value. Technology is a tool and its use depends on the motives of those that control it.


See the crazy thing is the difference in how two of the big world powers in the world treat these types of things.

In the US -- using facial recognition on your phone is a feature, it's something that you may buy a phone for because it saves times when you're signing into your phone.

In China -- Facial recognition is being forced on you. Before phones even had it, China had been implementing facial tracking tech all over the country and now they're forcing this on you.

China uses this to oppress you. The US companies use this as a feature that people like.

China is a dictatorship which hands down mandates and says comply or else, and the USA is a constitutional republic which is supposed to be ruled by its people, not by its government. The only difference is here they need to provide a layer of bullshit to sell you your enslavement so they can introduce ever increasing levels of surveillance and encroach on our freedoms. This has been the SOP since 9/11 and well before, but 9/11 was the break open excuse to roll out this technological totalitarian dystopia. Think The P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act and The John Warner Defense Authorization act of 2007.
2607  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The impeachment tides are turning. on: December 05, 2019, 06:52:34 PM
Why would they do it fast when the whole point was to drag this out to try to effect the 2020 elections?
2608  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 05, 2019, 06:50:13 PM
That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something

KY do you ever actually spend more than 20 seconds before posting? I didn't  find shit - I quoted twitchy.

FFS son, please leave the adults alone

Kind of an interesting read if you don't mind transcripts: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/pirateat40/secvs.pirateat401.pdf

I should prob stop derailing this thread now


"TL;DR, court documents prove all of my baseless speculation true."
2609  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: December 05, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
No it is exactly the same issue from the start. Whether they are legitimate or not depends explicitly upon who they are issued to as the executive and legislative branches are co-equal. You still haven't produced the subpoenas under dispute no matter how thirsty you are to craft this tertiary bullshit into a win.

See? This is what I was talking about. You are worming your way out of having to admit you were wrong about no subpoenas being produced by the house and shifting the focus to obfuscate this fact.

You keep getting proven wrong, and then shifting the debate to something else, and then you are proven wrong there, so you shift it again.

For someone who talks such a huge game your knowledge of these issues is very superficial.

I feel like you're just trolling us at this point so I'm bowing out. Its impossible to debate someone when they are incapable of debating honestly.

This was the initial premise. If there is any worming going on it is you worming your way out of the burden of proof that the subpoenas issued to the executive were valid or even ever existed. Goodbye for now until you bow out again when you can't restrain yourself and or you run out of arguments.


Meanwhile, after being presented with documents in another thread:

OOO court documents, very official! Clearly everything you say is true, you referenced official court documents after all.


Thanks for proving once again you are completely unable to separate politics discussed here from forum issues. You belong nowhere near any trust lists as you are controlled by your emotions and are unable to rely on logic.


2610  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: December 05, 2019, 03:07:33 AM
The whole premise of the conflict to begin with was whether House issued subpoenas served to the executive branch were legitimate or not, but don't let that stop you from jerking each other off in public.

No, it absolutely wasn't. You upped the ante from not being able to produce the Pompeo or Giuliani subpoenas to any subpoena related to the impeachment. Now you are doing some backtracking and while admitting the subpoenas exist you are now claiming they are not legitimate. That's an entirely different issue, one which I'm sure you know better than the house committees that issued the subpoenas. Whether or not you feel they are "legitimate" is besides the point.

Of course you can't even produce a document even resembling a subpoena from The House regarding impeachment before October 31st 2019.

Feel free to worm around some more.

No it is exactly the same issue from the start. Whether they are legitimate or not depends explicitly upon who they are issued to as the executive and legislative branches are co-equal. You still haven't produced the subpoenas under dispute no matter how thirsty you are to craft this tertiary bullshit into a win.
2611  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!. on: December 05, 2019, 02:58:10 AM
Thing is, countries implement these kinds of shzzers for the sake of security BUT they fail to let us understand how they bloody works, maybe even hide other features or surveillance that are actually done. This really makes believing in these kinds of things really difficult. It's like they are considering us as idiots that can't understand jack sht so they just say, "okay, this just recognizes your face in case you are gonna do something bad. " And that's that. The next thing they'd probably implement is chips in your arms that detect your GPS location every time. Hell, its good and all in case of emergencies, but in the end, it still encases your invasion of privacy.

With 5G they don't need to chip you, they can locate you anywhere the antennas can reach. 5G is also a surveilance and weapons system, which is why the USA is cracking down so hard on Chinese built 5G infrastructure.
2612  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: December 05, 2019, 02:45:30 AM
Of course you can't even produce a document even resembling a subpoena from The House regarding impeachment before October 31st 2019.

DOD letter of the 22nd bitching about her subpoena...
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-clearinghouse-2019.10.22.WH-letter-to-Cooper.pdf

Her subpoena, dated Oct 21st for her to show up on the 23rd. Just so you don't miss that, that was before that 31st requirement you magically added one day in order to give yourself more "outs".
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-clearinghouse-2019.10.23.Cooper-subpoena.pdf

Her transcript from her deposition on the 23rd.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D012.pdf

Can you shut up now about subpoenas? I'm sure though that you'll come up with some new bullshit issue about it all.


Good job, you can re-present information already presented. This discussion was always about executive branch subpoenas and their validity. You go ahead and use your topic sliding to call it an "out" if you like. I was very specific because you are extremely predictable and I know you would pull some tertiary bullshit like this out and claim it is proof. You think they are different than "legal subpoenas" anyway, so I am not too worried about your expert criticism no matter how much you and your entourage stroke each other off.

You've claimed they didn't issue any "real" subpoenas prior to Oct 31st. You've made blanket statements about that. You were just shown one proving you're wrong and you can try and twist it how you wish but that doesn't change the fact..

Obviously he was wrong. He just has a pathological inability to admit when he is wrong about something. Its utterly bizarre.

Of course you can't even produce a document even resembling a subpoena from The House regarding impeachment before October 31st 2019.

Such a document was indeed produced:

https://i.imgur.com/TDa6SiS.png

Let's dissect this piece-by-piece:

-document resembling a subpoena ✔
-from The House ✔
-regarding impeachment ✔
-before October 31st 2019 ✔

Now I'm sure TS will say, "Oh but I didn't mean that, I meant this or this," because again, he has this clinical, almost neuropathologically-driven inability to admit when he was wrong.

The whole premise of the conflict to begin with was whether House issued subpoenas served to the executive branch were legitimate or not, but don't let that stop you from jerking each other off in public.
2613  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 05, 2019, 02:18:20 AM
Law enforcement definitely has the information on passthrough programs and they know Og was involved.  They probably didn't go after him because it wasn't that much money.

OGNasty was basically picking up the scraps compared to what Pirateat was doing.  His pitch was basically (and I'm paraphrasing here):  "pirateat is an asset to the community, you should invest with him if you can!  If you don't have enough money or an invite though, I'll help you out!"

Good to know you speak for the police now too. Catch you later Captain Hindsight.



Not speaking for the police.  I just researched what happened.  You could too, if you wanted.  I've already given you all the info you need to verify what I'm saying is true.

It's frustrating having to spell everything out for you, but here you go:


https://i.gyazo.com/d899021656a9b7d9636f5de683ee298d.png

https://i.gyazo.com/92559a4e2d062d5e85fa4d9176bc6478.png




Yet you just did speak for the actions of the police nonetheless. OOO court documents, very official! Clearly everything you say is true, you referenced official court documents after all.
2614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: December 05, 2019, 02:12:50 AM
Sadly you are mistaken.

For example, Pete will get 0 votes from Christian evangelicals and many other religious people won't vote for him simply because he's gay.  

I think the country is progressive enough that he could overcome it, but it's possible squatz is right.

TIL you speak for all Christian evangelicals. You learn something new every day. What were we just discussing? Prejudice?

We were discussing how Petes sexuality could affect his shot at the presidency.  

Right, prejudice. Funny how it only matters when it goes the way you don't agree with.
2615  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 05, 2019, 01:24:22 AM
Law enforcement definitely has the information on passthrough programs and they know Og was involved.  They probably didn't go after him because it wasn't that much money.

OGNasty was basically picking up the scraps compared to what Pirateat was doing.  His pitch was basically (and I'm paraphrasing here):  "pirateat is an asset to the community, you should invest with him if you can!  If you don't have enough money or an invite though, I'll help you out!"

Good to know you speak for the police now too. Catch you later Captain Hindsight.

2616  Other / Meta / Re: Trust feedback should be written in English. A must for DTs. on: December 05, 2019, 01:22:46 AM
I think this is important for the whole community and there are only benefits.
I also understand the struggle of some people when using English but when you leave to someone feedback it's to inform the rest of the members. At least a rule for those who are on DT, if you end up there you need to take the responsibilities as well.
Simple example of a DT feedback >


While I understand your issue, this could have some negative monoculture type results. IMO if you don't speak the language of your trading partner you should probably in general not be trading with them anyway.
2617  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: December 05, 2019, 01:09:54 AM
Sadly you are mistaken.

For example, Pete will get 0 votes from Christian evangelicals and many other religious people won't vote for him simply because he's gay. 

I think the country is progressive enough that he could overcome it, but it's possible squatz is right.

TIL you speak for all Christian evangelicals. You learn something new every day. What were we just discussing? Prejudice?
2618  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM? on: December 05, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
I don’t get it though as why does the United States have only two presidents to run. And it is selected within the these two parties. I mean why can’t a person run independently with no party list or another partylist can be created. I think it linits the people choice because what if there is no one to choose among the choices made by these parties.

I don’t really know much about Trump since I don’t live in the US but most of the news that I heard aren’t that nice and I don’t know which to believe. It seems like people are just selecting which one is less worse than the other.

You can technically run independently or without any specific party, but it means your exposure is limited to the point of being unelectable essentially. The founding fathers of this nation designed this to be a two party system purposely. The main idea was the government would be so busy bickering with itself they would have less time to molest the citizens of the nation. Also, if a 3rd party were to get popular, it would make it a simple task to divide the nation just enough to enable a radical minority to take power. You see this often in nations with a multiparty system as opposed to a binary one. Obviously a two party system is shit, but it is less shit than the shittier ones.
2619  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: December 04, 2019, 10:55:23 PM
Mayor Pete is the best overall option IMO, but he will not win.  Joe Biden is going to win, but has absolutely no chance at beating Trump (He's a creepy old man with dinosaur politics.  Ex- not wanting to legalize marijuana which would be an obviously powerful tool for him to use).

I agree about pete, he would be the most difficult for Trump to attack.  What's he going to do, call him a homo? 

Petes biggest hurdle is that Black people don't like him.  Pete with an Obama endorsement and Booker or Kamala as VP would be very solid - but not much of a chance of that happening unless Biden drops out for some reason.  Promising future for 2024 or later though, unless he fucks up in the next few months.

This isn't mean to sound rude or anything along those lines, but I don't think that the country is ready yet to elect a gay person.

I've heard of some polls in some podcast that I listen to that were saying that most black men aren't ready to even support a black women for president, let alone a gay guy.

Pete has no real values imo. His campaign will not last too long, but how long will HIGHLY depend on how he does in Iowa, NH.

If he had good policies no one would care how much he likes wieners. This identity politics crap is trash. It is not about being a woman, black, or gay, it is because they are shit candidates.
2620  Other / Meta / Re: Calling for SENSIBLE DEBATE on this use of the trust system ( not regarding us) on: December 04, 2019, 10:51:40 PM
they can set their own rules and do whatever they like abusing the trust system. Lauda doesn't belong anywhere near any level of trust.

Oi.. watch out , next itll be people calling you TOAA/Cryptocunter..

come on - change the record. Everyone knows lauda is a law to themselves. but... Plus/Minus - the net gain to this place is many multiples more for all the good the cuntycat has done over the years.  Seriously Twatshare, man up - change the tampon/maxipad and move on.

Pretty sure you and your turdburgle gang already tried that. Oh no don't call me names! Lauda is a net detriment to this forum because they have no regard for anything but what they personally unilaterally decide.
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