These are the main points I disputed to begin with. I'm not trying to do anything slick. You're the one posting stuff that contradicts what you said at first so I'm not even sure what your point is now, other than Hillary is Bad - Trump is good. (You haven't contradicted the last one, but I found a report of a scientist that came in contact with Novichok and survived). Anyone who believes that Russia was responsible for the Skripal attack is retarded If he had information dangerous enough worth killing him over, they would have done it before he left Russia.
Furthermore he had a trip planned to visit Russia shortly before the incident. Why the fuck would they attack him on UK soil and create a very public international incident when they could have just waited a week and quietly do it on their own turf? Finally, if you know anything about Novichok, you would know if it was that, he would be dead 100%, along with first responders and bystanders.
Well you dispute them, I am very proud of you. And? My point is that these current events relating to Ukraine and the never ending attempt to reverse the results of the 2016 election tie all the way back to these attempts to cover up the illicit source of the Steel dossier, as well as the illegal FISA warrant that was based on it. This demonstrates a pattern of attempts to cover up this coup attempt by all involved parties including the UK, Russia, as well as elements within the US government itself. I am sure Russia attempted to manipulate the election process as well, the problem is more that there are factions within our government also doing so, and they have far more motive and ability to coverall of this up with endless frivolous investigation, media hype, and attempts at impeachment. This has all been crafted to cover their own asses. |
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That's literally the premise of the entire blog. Did you even read it? The Kremlin considered the nonexistent Steele-Miller-Skripal link as a convenient and timely combination of circumstances, an opportunity that it could not pass up. Putin's regime had to prove that it was not Russian intelligence services who composed the "Russian dossier." The Kremlin needed to send the investigation on the wrong track — ostensibly, this Skripal was the very "source close to the Kremlin" of Christopher Steele. Moreover, supposedly, this is precisely why the buyers of the "Russian dossier" decided to eliminate Skripal.
In other words, the Skripal poisoning was a cover-up operation of the Kremlin, the purpose of which was to send the "ObamaGate" investigation in a false direction.
For the Kremlin, killing Skripal looked like a pretty attractive move that would explain much, if not all, to the court of public opinion. It would explain the fact that the "author of the dossier" sufficiently "knew Russian material" and the fact that the linguistic analysis of the "dossier" showed that the text was written grammatically correctly and formatted according to MI6 reporting standards but that the author is not a native English speaker.
The fate of Skripal was decided — the agent "Forthwith" had to be terminated immediately. That was a slick little juxtaposition you did there. I don't see the statement "the poisoning was done by Russia to cover up the fact that Russia wanted Hillary to win in 2016." anywhere in that quote, or the article in general. I do however see that it says "Christopher Steele is known to be an extremely left-wing mind, and he quite aggressively tried to help his transatlantic ideological soulmate, Hillary Clinton, to win the presidential election. " No, not the premise of the entire blog, just the parts you want to cherry pick and distort to fit your bias. The fact is, even if true, the UK had just as much if not more incentive to attack Skripal. None of this explains why it was done in such a blatantly obvious and visibly "Russian" way. There are plenty of ways to kill people that attract much less attention if your goal is to cover up their connection. |
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Obviously I don't know what actually happened. All we can do is speculate based on what we know.
You could absolutely be correct about Russia not being involved, although I think it's more likely that you're wrong - especially after seeing that blog you posted. Geez.
Well geewillikers TwitchySeal, if you can't argue any of the information presented, simply attack the source. I know what I know from observing this unfold as it happened for decades, not just from some blog post. I am sorry your tourist pass leaves you personally unsure, but that sounds like a you problem. I mean, the blog you posted claims that the poisoning was done by Russia to cover up the fact that Russia wanted Hillary to win in 2016. Would that qualify the author as a retard in your book? Anyone who believes that Russia was responsible for the Skripal attack is retarded Try picking your nose. It would be a good break from all the cherry picking you do. Also, no it doesn't. More expansive and selective interpretation to fit the confirmation bias of TwitchySeal. |
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Obviously I don't know what actually happened. All we can do is speculate based on what we know.
You could absolutely be correct about Russia not being involved, although I think it's more likely that you're wrong - especially after seeing that blog you posted. Geez.
Well geewillikers TwitchySeal, if you can't argue any of the information presented, simply attack the source. I know what I know from observing this unfold as it happened for decades, not just from some blog post. I am sorry your tourist pass leaves you personally unsure, but that sounds like a you problem. |
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usually Usually /= always. Like I said, your personal interpretation is irrelevant. |
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If he had information worth killing him over, he would never have been traded. Even assuming he did, how does it make sense to let him wander around the UK for years before killing him, giving him plenty of time to spill the beans? Why not kill him in Russia? Do you really believe spies don't know governments are willing to kill them? That premise is retarded and more based on TV and movies than reality.
After the spy swap he was known to meet with intelligence officials in other countries. He may not have known any big secrets that could damage Russia, but a former Russian spy willing to share all he knows would be valuable to any country. Do you really believe spies don't know governments are willing to kill them? That premise is retarded and more based on TV and movies than reality.
No, I'm sure they know that. Both in real life and the movies. Your reasoning doesn't follow any logic. Either he has information that is dangerous to Russia and is worth killing, or not. If they know their lives are at stake, "sending a message" is not a valid or logical motive. Video of Russia sending a message to any defecting spies. |
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If he had information dangerous enough worth killing him over, they would have done it before he left Russia.
Russia traded 3 spies (including him) for 10 spies from the UK. This could be a reason not to kill him. Furthermore he had a trip planned to visit Russia shortly before the incident. Why the fuck would they attack him on UK soil and create a very public international incident when they could have just waited a week and quietly do it on their own turf? I hadn't read that, do you have a link? Maybe there was something he was planning on doing before coming to Russia that they didn't want him to do? What effect did the large amount of attention generated by this incident have? Cui bono?
He was a Russian spy that turned on his own country. He only had to spend a couple years in prison before the spy swap. After the spy swap he was known to meet with intelligence officials in other countries, likely sharing his knowledge. Perhaps the message was meant as a warning for those who might follow in his footsteps. Even if you are traded in a spy swap and living in a safe, western country, you will still have plenty to worry about. Also, he wouldn't be able to teach other people how things worked in Russia anymore. Finally, if you know anything about Novichok, you would know if it was that, he would be dead 100%, along with first responders and bystanders.
A reported case of accidental exposure of a Russian physicist to Novichok in 1987 described the following events: He staggered out of the room, his vision seared by brilliant colors and hallucinations. He collapsed, and the KGB took him to a hospital.
By the time he arrived his breathing was labored. In another hour, his heart would have stopped. His entire nervous system was gradually ceasing to function.
The physicist was lucky. The hospital he was taken to, the Sklifosovsky Institute, includes the nation’s top center for poison treatment.
There, Dr. Yevgeny Vedernikov saved his life.
But the scientist was at the edge of death, unaware of his surroundings, for 10 days. He couldn’t walk for six months. He was dogged by depression and an inability to concentrate. He found it difficult even to read. To this day his arms are still weak, and he has never been able to return to work.
Although he survived, the gas left him with permanent disabilities.If he had information worth killing him over, he would never have been traded. Even assuming he did, how does it make sense to let him wander around the UK for years before killing him, giving him plenty of time to spill the beans? Why not kill him in Russia? Why use a rare neurotoxin almost exclusively used by Russia forming an obvious link? This is what investigators call "an orgy of evidence" and is indicative of a frame up. Do you really believe spies don't know governments are willing to kill them? That premise is retarded and more based on TV and movies than reality. Spies enter into their line of work knowing full well they are at risk of assassination or execution, meaning killing him to "send a message" is completely asinine. The key word in your scientist's exposure example is "accidental". None of this narrative adds up, except to people that think they are Ethan Hunt. There are however clear motives for the UK to attack Skripal, and make it look like the Russians did it. "At the time when Pablo Miller was recruiting spies for Great Britain, Christopher Steele was the head of MI6 in Moscow. After returning to London and retiring in 2009, Christopher Steele founded private intelligence corporation "Orbis Business Intelligence." Allegedly, Pablo Miller, a former recruiter, curator, and now one of Skripal's friends and neighbors, got a job at Orbis. Therefore, when Christopher Steele received an order for fabrication of the "dossier" on Trump, the fate of an unsuspecting and innocent Skripal was sealed." https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/03/the_trump_dossier_and_the_poisoning_of_sergei_skripal.htmlAs we now know, the FISA warrant which was used to start the Trump Russia collusion investigation was completely based on the fabricated dossier created by Steele. Given their relationship, this is a glaringly obvious motive to attack him and frame it as a Russian attack. Using this method, they not only get to cover up embarrassing fabricated evidence from one of their own spies, but have a damned good excuse to ratchet up Russian sanctions. Related: https://qz.com/1224822/a-linkedin-bio-reportedly-connects-sergei-skripal-donald-trump-and-christopher-steele/ |
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He tried to sell his account on a year when account selling wasn't even a thing and he did posted it on his account, nutildah, which only says that he ain't an account seller. Like how other DT members views it they only tag account seller that are just account farmers who basically are just here selling off other farmed accounts to make a living. Based on the archived you gave and how nutildah is still posting today it only means the account wasn't sold at all so basically a sale didn't even happen, there was only an attempt to do so.
Not true at all. See Bill Gator. Also, what evidence do you have it was not sold? The seller's word? If the current users in control of the default trust didn't have double standards, they would have no standards at all. They regularly abuse their authority to protect their own positions and that of their supporters while using any excuse to bury their critics while the few good members on it turn a blind eye in order to protect their own status. |
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Coup as in Coup D'etat, right? The word Coup implies something sudden and decisive. Coup de Grace, for example, means a final death blow.
Assassinating a president doesn't necessarily mean it's a coup. Although a president could certainly be assassinated during a coup.
Your personal interpretation is irrelevant. The actual definition of the word however is relevant. Definition of coup d'état (noun): ": a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group" Definition of coup (verb): ": overturn, upset" As you can see not only does the word coup not require violent and sudden overthrow, even by your interpretation an assassination of a sitting president fits quite firmly within it. The factions Trump is resisting now are linked to the JFK assassination, and that was absolutely a coup. BREAKING NEWS: Democrats want impeachment. In other news, water is wet. More related: "Trump Warns Of Civil War If Impeached Causing OUTRAGE, But He Isn't Wrong And The Media Knows It" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-CVXCc1ok |
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Trump told Theresa May he doubted Russia was behind Skripal poisoning Guys we need a doctor here. I mean srsly an old man gone wild. Anyone who believes that Russia was responsible for the Skripal attack is retarded, for several reasons. If he had information dangerous enough worth killing him over, they would have done it before he left Russia. Furthermore he had a trip planned to visit Russia shortly before the incident. Why the fuck would they attack him on UK soil and create a very public international incident when they could have just waited a week and quietly do it on their own turf? None of this narrative makes any sense, except to people who watch too many movies. This is not how intelligence agencies and assassinations work. Attention is the opposite of what these people want, and if they get attention it is to serve a purpose. What effect did the large amount of attention generated by this incident have? Cui bono? Finally, if you know anything about Novichok, you would know if it was that, he would be dead 100%, along with first responders and bystanders. Once again, what narrative did this attack serve? It certainly didn't serve Russia. |
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BTW, that lazy child of a billionaire is going to "return" the capital to people who know what to do with it sooner rather than later.
Why do you think the majority of lottery winners go broke?
Do you see the double standard in your post? Why can't we treat the poor like the lazy child of .a billionaire and give them money. That way, everyone will have the same opportunity to "return" the capital or put it into good use. According to your same logic, the people with the most skills would end up with the capital anyway. Give them money from where? Who is going to pay for it? You seem to think that money grows on trees. How do you know the poor kids deserve the money? If they score perfectly on the SAT, I say they deserve it. I would personally invest in their education for a cut of their future earnings. BTW, capital gravitates to those who have most skills. That is a fact. Also, saying that the poor do not have the same opportunities is a cop-out. You are painting all the poor with the same brush. In America, all kids can prepare for and write SAT exams. Family issues are affecting both poor and rich so please don't bring it up as a reason poor kids perform poorly; it is a non sequitur. Do you think rich kids don't have problems? They have problems, just different ones. You have no idea how fortunate kids in North America are. I cannot listen to your excuses. Go live in Vietnam, Cambodia, Central Africa or the Middle East. You live in your "American social injustice" bubble. No wonder the rest of the world thinks Americans are morons. The US is the land of opportunity, every hard-working immigrant will tell you that. It is the best country in the world to study, work, start a business, become rich, etc. No matter the race, religion or ethnic background. Sour grapes with the rich is not an argument. Money doesn't grow on trees. You don't need trees or growth to create money. Money grows on computer screens out of key strokes. The central bank literally creates money out of nothing. Money isn't finite because its not a tangible resource. Its something we've created to get people to do things. Just like points in a game, or merit on a messageboard, a money system can be tweaked or reassigned like an airdrop or fork to meet current needs. Your willingness to take a skilled person's capital in return for allowing them education (which should be a right the brightest of the bright in the first place) is more evidence that you subscribe to stealing and that capital gravitates to those who have the most capital and skills together. Skills without capital are even more useless than capital without skills. How much skill does it really take to bet on a person with a perfect SAT score? All of the research shows that poor kids are at an extreme disadvantage; even in the US. In a predominantly low-income, population-based longitudinal sample of 1,259 children followed from birth, results suggest that chronic exposure to poverty and the strains of financial hardship were each uniquely predictive of young children’s performance on measures of executive functioning. Results suggest that temperament-based vulnerability serves as a statistical moderator of the link between poverty-related risk and children’s executive functioning. Implications for models of ecology and biology in shaping the development of children’s self-regulation are discussed. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5460626/By the age of 4, poor kids already have decreased executive functioning ability. This means they are not as able to get the same out of an equal education going forward even if they weren't already going to receive an inferior education. This is permanent damage and we can point out clear mechanisms linking back to family income. I know exactly how fortunate most kids in the USA are. That is the crux of the issue. Being born in the US is not a skill. Being born in any rich nation is not a skill but at the same time is usually an automatic ticket to limitless opportunity. This excess of opportunity exists largely because it was stolen from the global south. Living in a country that had its schools bombed and future damaged so that we could buy more stuff we don't need would only further solidify this perspective. There is no doubt that the US is the best country to be rich in. No argument there. In no other country is it so legal for the rich to systematically steal from the rest of the world. All we had to do was simply be born and our ticket to an easy life was already punched. A lot of us had it so good that we could party and play for most of our lives, make terrible, irresponsible mistakes, squander more money than most people will ever see, and STILL come out in the top 5 percentile without ever having to sweat. All of this on the backs of the global poor. Money is potentialy infinite. Resources are not infinite. There is no way to just print more resources no matter how much money you hand out. Education is not a right. No one has aright to the time and resources of another required for education. That is called theft and or slavery. Additionally not every poor person is poor because a rich person made them poor. That is insane Marxist victim-hood rhetoric. |
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Other -> attack helicopter
What the fuck is even the point of this thread?
I can tell you it certainly isn't for you to come in here and drop one liners for your daily btc collection. If you read what I said perhaps you'd know why I posted it? Basic reading skills... maybe I'm asking too much? If you don't care to vote get off the thread. Attack helicopter would fall under the gender category too btw. Peace oot. That's what the report button is for, in this case "low quality". You could also send the campaign manager a message here. He is currently burning out the dead wood. |
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A lot of ways the term "civil war" can be interpreted.
Regardless, there certainly was an attempt at a coup, and it is ongoing.
Actually the coup happened a long time ago and was successful. Trump is leading the counter-coup before control is finalized, and the original factions are actively trying to stop him. Of course this is too deep for simpletons like Nutilduhh so I just simplified it for the sake of ease of communication. I wouldn't want his head to explode from realizing just exactly how blind he has been after all. Aren't coups usually pretty sudden, unconstitutional, and result in the leader of the coup immediately taking the place of the leader they overthrew? That's not what's happening here. I guess we could have our own American version of the coup if we want though. It definitely makes an accusation sound more serious. You are making a lot of assumptions. Coups are also quiet and subversive, it is not a requirement they are fast and loud. Also we aren't just talking about individuals but factions fighting. Trump just happens to be the chosen figurehead. The public face of the opposition is largely expendable and interchangeable. What would you call an assassination of a sitting president if not a coup BTW? |
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My signature space is now rented out until at least January 6th, 2020. Please PM me to negotiate future agreements. Thanks.
P.S. I am paid a flat fee, not per post in case anyone wants to try to claim I have any incentive to shitpost for money.
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A lot of ways the term "civil war" can be interpreted.
Regardless, there certainly was an attempt at a coup, and it is ongoing.
Actually the coup happened a long time ago and was successful. Trump is leading the counter-coup before control is finalized, and the original factions are actively trying to stop him. Of course this is too deep for simpletons like Nutilduhh so I just simplified it for the sake of ease of communication. I wouldn't want his head to explode from realizing just exactly how blind he has been after all. |
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Unscrupulous such as accusing me of everything you are guilty of, and then having the gall of additionally then accusing me of hypocrisy for pointing it out. No worries though, you are safe far far away in the Philippines so you have little to nothing to lose if this country breaks out in civil war, giving you the freedom to be so flippant about this potential.
I just can't believe how disconnected from reality or far gone mentally you have to be to believe that not only is a coup underway but civil war is about to break out. I can be flippant all day long knowing that a civil war is not happening no matter how much you believe it will. That's what being grounded in reality affords me. I think you must secretly love being wrong. That would after all be the perspective of some one who is actually disconnected from reality and mentally ill. This isn't a fringe concept no matter how hard you struggle fruitlessly to marginalize me. You just have your head buried so deep in the sand that anyone who bothers to look around and talk honestly about it terrifies you, so you need to convince yourself they are crazy so you can displace your own cognitive dissonance onto others. After all, if you acknowledge this reality, you might have to change your belief system and the way you live, and who wants that right? |
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This is not sarcasm, for me such tools would be suitable for working with cardboard, if they had pens, so that they can be conveniently and for a long time to hold. Sorry if offended by your question.  No worries. I think the misunderstanding resulted from a language barrier. Sorry for being so defensive, but a lot of people like to complain about certain items for sale here and think they have the right to tell people what they should be trading because they don't like it. I think exacto blades would probably be better for working with cardboard, but I suppose they could work if need be. These are designed to unlock doors without a key. They are not sharp, but might be helpful working with small objects. |
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Picking locks? If you are attempting to sarcastically shame me you have picked the wrong guy my friend. These are tools, in general crooks will just break a window if they want to enter some where illegally. I however have been saved from having to call a lock smith more times than I can remember because I had a set of these around and know how to use them. |
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