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2901  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: November 05, 2019, 10:12:12 PM

This isn't anything new or damning. Lets look at some quotes...

"In his new testimony, Mr. Sondland said he believed that withholding the aid — a package of $391 million in security assistance that had been approved by Congress — was “ill-advised,” although he did not know “when, why or by whom the aid was suspended.” But he said he came to believe that the aid was tied to the investigations.

I presumed that the aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anticorruption statement,” Mr. Sondland said."


"In his updated testimony, Mr. Sondland recounted how he had discussed the link with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, on the sidelines of a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said.

I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Mr. Sondland said in the document, which was released by the House committees leading the inquiry, along with the transcript of his original testimony from last month."

"Mr. Sondland’s new testimony contradicted the notion that he was a lone wolf pushing the quid pro quo idea himself, and portrayed him instead as just the messenger who had discovered there was a linkage between the aid and the investigations and articulated it to others. He said it “would have been natural for me to have voiced what I presumed” about what was standing in the way of releasing the military assistance."

 I see lots of presumptions, assumptions, and beliefs, but no evidence of anything but Trump doing investigations relating to the 2016 elections, as he is entitled to as the chief of the executive branch. Funny how Trump has been subject to nonstop investigations one after another since 2016 (and before really), and none of that is "for personal political gain", but Trump investigating a PASSED election, well that's just too far! The assertion that Trump needs to do this to win over Joe Biden is even more laughable. Joe can't even keep himself together, or his hands to himself.


2902  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: November 05, 2019, 07:56:20 PM
So the guy that donated $1m to the Trump campaign and was then picked for Ambassador to Europe just amended his testimony from last week.  Trump will not be pleased.


“I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,”





Ooops...


No source of any kind, sounds reliable. Also certainly doesn't sound like a horribly fumbled and failed attempt at entrapment either.
2903  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BOMBSHELL: ABC News Killed Epstein-Clinton Story, Says Anchor In Hot Mic Video on: November 05, 2019, 07:50:17 PM
I've seen this all over twitter, and now on the Daily Wire. BUT NO OTHER NEWS SOURCE HAS WENT AFTER THIS.

No one, not a fucking news source in the world. Not the Conservatives at the WSJ, or the Liberals at CNN/NY Times/etc. While I know that Project Veritas is KNOWN to be a group that edits a large amount of their content, even if this is edited this isn't something you just say.

Epstein didn't kill himself, and people in the upper echelon of society were involved in his death.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/bombshell-abc-news-killed-epstein-clinton-story-says-anchor-in-hot-mic-video

I'm going to leave this one moderated just cause I hate the CryptoTalk spam here.

I have been trying to tell you with much difficulty for some time that you are making a mistake hoping to get accurate and timely information from the very same cartels responsible for these issues, that end up being reported elsewhere. If the Genovese or the Bonanno family owned a news network, exactly how much would you expect them to report on the organized crime problems in the local area? You disregard anything independent for not being completely vetted and checked, when the ones that are completely vetted and checked are the ones guaranteed to never touch on certain issues. Instead of trusting your own senses and intelligence you insist some one define what reality is for you, freeing you of the responsibility.
2904  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 05, 2019, 07:05:03 PM
It makes plenty of sense. If it is not related to the op, then what are you rambling on about other than the fact you don't like what I say? What relevance to the op does this have at all? It is really simple.

OP is about you being a dick and bitching about off topic posts.

In that case it belongs in Reputation or Off Topic. Thanks for arguing my point that none of this belongs here.
2905  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tard dances around main issues in pathetic attempt to argue the peripheral on: November 05, 2019, 07:01:26 PM
Polls, always with the polls. Polls are easily manipulated. It amazes me how many of you forgot all the polls with 90%+ saying Hillary was going to win already. Keep dreaming, the Democrats don't have anyone with a chance in hell of beating Trump.

The poll isn't about the general election, its about the primary election.

Joe has to make it to the primary without springing a leak or molesting another child on camera first.

I like how your reason why Biden's legacy is over just pivoted from the whole Ukraine ordeal to "springing a leak" (whatever that means) or "molesting another child on camera" (a thing that never happened).

So what if he's a bit touchy. In this day and age, its standard behavior for a presidential candidate to boast about grabbing women by the pussy.

Even though the conspiratards have convinced me to rally around Creepy Uncle Joe in support against their fuckery, I would be thrilled if Sanders actually became the nominee after toasting Biden and Warren in the debates. That may spell the end of the "Biden Legacy." It certainly won't be the Ukraine ordeal. Trump's legacy, on the other hand, currently hinges on it.

Actually I was referring to his poor physical condition with his eyes randomly popping blood vessels, his teeth falling out, and him losing his mind.

"A bit touchy" you say? There are whole compilations of videos of him groping small children and women making them visibly uncomfortable. These aren't even the long versions. But you are right, lets break out some more NO U!!!'s and project back on like 20 year old comments said in private, lets forget the public pattern of on camera molestation of your guy, because after all the end justify the means don't they?  Biden's legacy is over, but unlike the constant fraudulent accusations against Trump, real criminal investigations are in private and take time.

You keep fantasizing that any of these rejects has a chance in a fair vote. That is why it has been nonstop Russia Gate leading into a fraudulent impeachment all based on nothing, because that is the only chance they have of beating Trump is to use the tools designed to protect this nation from corruption as political weapons. If you think the American people are going to stand by and let that happen without a response, you are even more out of it than Joe Biden. Just keep reading them polls, it will make you feel better until its all over, just like last time.
2906  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 05, 2019, 08:44:18 AM
Cool story bro. Thanks for the demonstration of your inability to separate the two issues.

That doesn't even make sense. Now you're just repeating stuff you've already said but it no longer fits into the context of the current discussion.

So now me being wrong = me being a dick? I Thought I was bad because I was a dick, now I am not allowed to be wrong either, and you get to decide what is right or wrong do you?

No, you're obviously allowed to be a dick as much as you are wrong. Just as I am allowed to tell you you're being a dick, and that you are wrong, which is often. They are two separate things. You do have a propensity to be a dick while you are being a wrong, but that is just an overlap of statistical likelihood and not the result of a causative effect.

So then, what exactly does any of this have to do with enforcing forum policy or the topic whatsoever?

You asked me a question and I answered it.

I think you need to sleep and recharge your brain for another, more focused outpouring of incel-driven angst tomorrow.

It makes plenty of sense. If it is not related to the op, then what are you rambling on about other than the fact you don't like what I say? What relevance to the op does this have at all? It is really simple.
2907  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 05, 2019, 08:21:48 AM
So now me being wrong = me being a dick? I Thought I was bad because I was a dick, now I am not allowed to be wrong either, and you get to decide what is right or wrong do you?

No, you're obviously allowed to be a dick as much as you are wrong. Just as I am allowed to tell you you're being a dick, and that you are wrong, which is often. They are two separate things. You do have a propensity to be a dick while you are being a wrong, but that is just an overlap of statistical likelihood and not the result of a causative effect.

So then, what exactly does any of this have to do with enforcing forum policy or the topic whatsoever?

You asked me a question and I answered it.

Cool story bro. Thanks for the demonstration of your inability to separate the two issues.
2908  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating on: November 05, 2019, 08:19:29 AM
Polls, always with the polls. Polls are easily manipulated. It amazes me how many of you forgot all the polls with 90%+ saying Hillary was going to win already. Keep dreaming, the Democrats don't have anyone with a chance in hell of beating Trump.

The poll isn't about the general election, its about the primary election.

Joe has to make it to the primary without springing a leak or molesting another child on camera first.
2909  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 05, 2019, 08:15:16 AM
So now me being wrong = me being a dick? I Thought I was bad because I was a dick, now I am not allowed to be wrong either, and you get to decide what is right or wrong do you?

No, you're obviously allowed to be a dick as much as you are wrong. Just as I am allowed to tell you you're being a dick, and that you are wrong, which is often. They are two separate things. You do have a propensity to be a dick while you are being a wrong, but that is just an overlap of statistical likelihood and not the result of a causative effect.

So then, what exactly does any of this have to do with enforcing forum policy or the topic whatsoever?
2910  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating on: November 05, 2019, 08:12:58 AM
Oh plenty will come of this, don't worry cupcake. Biden's legacy is over, and many other high level officials are going to face prosecution. You argue about meaningless peripheral issues all you like. The truth is coming out, and your butt is going to be so hurt you are going to suffer a prolapse from the sheer force of your head being yanked out of your ass when the news breaks.

This comment did not age well.
https://i.imgur.com/kvODND5.png

The only "high level official" facing "prosecution" over this is Donald Trump. According to you, an impeachment proceeding is a criminal trial, so this must be a prosecution, no?

When's that big truth bomb of yours coming out? Any day now, right?

I want to thank you for posting this thread. Had you not, I probably wouldn't have paid nearly as much attention to this issue. However, your posts kind of act as a reverse barometer of what is actually going on, so I knew when you posted this, the exact opposite was likely to be happening. And lo and behold, it is.

Polls, always with the polls. Polls are easily manipulated. It amazes me how many of you forgot all the polls with 90%+ saying Hillary was going to win already. Keep dreaming, the Democrats don't have anyone with a chance in hell of beating Trump.
2911  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: November 05, 2019, 04:38:15 AM
"Crony capitalism & Joe Biden’s brother"

https://nypost.com/2012/10/23/crony-capitalism-joe-bidens-brother/
2912  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 05, 2019, 01:41:13 AM
Yep, classic Vod technique. Keep making claims that I lied then never quoting it or even specifying what the lie was.

Typical TECHSHARE.  Makes claims against others without providing evidence.

Proof in quote above.  Smiley

I documented your pattern of lies and abuse over years very well here. You will also notice your inability to do the same.
2913  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 04, 2019, 08:20:13 PM
Yep, classic Vod technique. Keep making claims that I lied then never quoting it or even specifying what the lie was. You are abusing anything you can get your hands on.

Fair enough. I think I should allow the possibility that you're dumb enough to be unable to read the quote in the post you were replying to. It's also possible that you genuinely believe the shit you make up so I will refrain from calling it "lies", I'll just call you a moron instead.

For example your assertion "You are abusing anything you can get your hands on" is totally not a lie, you're just being a moron.

=
You just quoting a whole paragraph isn't identifying anything. The whole paragraph is a lie? I found your lies too, going back years. They are all here. If you can't read your lies you are dumb. See what I did there?

If you didn't care if people disagreed with you, you wouldn't feel the need to be a massive dick to them. That's what it comes down to.

I think it's possible that he either A) Doesn't realize how aggressive (often passive aggressive) his posts are perceived by most or, more likely, B) Perceives any post that challenge something he said as a direct attack on his intelligence and/or honor.  He seems to consider his own opinions facts. Therefore other peoples opinions must be 'wrong', and he must prove them wrong, otherwise it will appear that he is wrong.

Or he might be just a troll I guess.  But I think B or A is much more likely. 

Gonna go prepare myself mentally now for all the mean things that are about to be said about me.

 Cheesy

He definitely gives off trollish vibes; almost like game-protect, CH or even notbatman. Its basically characterized by an unrelenting inability to ever make a concession about being wrong about anything.

How exactly does that make logical sense? If I cared that people disagreed with me I would act like you and tell the default trust list to line up so I can wash their balls for them.

Uh, that's not the only way to express the fact that you care. If you truly didn't care that someone disagreed with you, you would ignore them. I don't think you've ever done that before.

I am saying what I say at the expense of people like you following me around everywhere else on the forum because you can't handle that I "was a dick to you" in Politics and Society.

It's actually not my fault that you are wrong so often, in so many different ways and places.

Your disagreement isn't the problem, its your inability to isolate it from the rest of the forum's functions. Speaking of forum policy and enforcement, seems to me mods deleting posts falls firmly under that description.

The mods' job is to delete posts that are deemed off-topic. Seems to me you're the one that has a problem distinguishing your opinion from forum functions. Feel free to post your "No U" meme that you love so much. I'm sure that will turn the tide of the argument in your favor.

You sure like to tell me what I think and feel a lot don't you? You should be working for Mrs. Cleo, not wasting those fine psychic abilities here. So now me being wrong = me being a dick? I Thought I was bad because I was a dick, now I am not allowed to be wrong either, and you get to decide what is right or wrong do you?

Mods deleting posts also falls well within forum policy and enforcement. Your butthurt ramblings over some one not sharing your political views do not.
2914  Economy / Reputation / Re: Wrongful accusation by Timelord. Did Yahoo put him in DT? on: November 04, 2019, 10:06:41 AM
What is connection between OP and other accounts?

Seems like they said "SCAMMMERRR!!", and woke up within 24 hours of each other, clearly case closed.

2915  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 04, 2019, 06:02:52 AM
What exactly am I lying about? Please quote.

I did.

The problem is your comments are just like many of the constant other examples of people who have disagreements with me in Politics & Society. Often they are the very same ones that let that emotion bleed into general forum conduct and abuse the various systems in anyway possible to play sad little games for having the audacity of not agreeing. I doubt that some of you can even separate the two issues. I don't care who is a Communist, as long as the Communist is treated the same as I am according to forum rules and policy. I have found many times that is not the case. I don't care if people disagree with me (clearly), what I care about is people taking that ill will from having open discussions on controversial subjects and abusing the forum's systems to "fight" ideas they don't like in another way.

Utter tosh. What exactly am I abusing?

Yep, classic Vod technique. Keep making claims that I lied then never quoting it or even specifying what the lie was. You are abusing anything you can get your hands on.


I don't care who is a Communist, as long as the Communist is treated the same as I am according to forum rules and policy. I have found many times that is not the case. I don't care if people disagree with me

That's hilarious. When's the last time you were civil to a "communist"? You care very deeply if people disagree with you to the point where you have to insult them over their beliefs if they don't align with yours. That's the problem. You can't just let a disagreement slide. TwitchySeal, for instance, has been extremely civil toward you and humble in his approach to dealing with you, and you in turn have been a massive dick.

You demand that not only the forum be perfect but be perfectly accorded with your vision of how the universe works. Well, hate to break it to you, but that's never gonna happen.

Who said anything about being civil? What does being "civil" mean? You get to define this of course. Again, thanks for making a great example of users not being able to separate their personal feelings from general forum conduct. I am not demanding anything, certainly not perfection. All I am doing is documenting publicly these interactions for review. You would be surprised how often the "universe" reacts some times to mere words alone.

If you didn't care if people disagreed with you, you wouldn't feel the need to be a massive dick to them. That's what it comes down to.

Talking about not being able to separate personal feelings from general forum conduct: at least I don't get my panties in a bunch every time a moderator deletes one of my posts, or doesn't delete one of my adversary's posts.

How exactly does that make logical sense? If I cared that people disagreed with me I would act like you and tell the default trust list to line up so I can wash their balls for them. I am saying what I say at the expense of people like you following me around everywhere else on the forum because you can't handle that I "was a dick to you" in Politics and Society. Your disagreement isn't the problem, its your inability to isolate it from the rest of the forum's functions. Speaking of forum policy and enforcement, seems to me mods deleting posts falls firmly under that description.


If you didn't care if people disagreed with you, you wouldn't feel the need to be a massive dick to them. That's what it comes down to.

I think it's possible that he either A) Doesn't realize how aggressive (often passive aggressive) his posts are perceived by most or, more likely, B) Perceives any post that challenge something he said as a direct attack on his intelligence and/or honor.  He seems to consider his own opinions facts. Therefore other peoples opinions must be 'wrong', and he must prove them wrong, otherwise it will appear that he is wrong.

Or he might be just a troll I guess.  But I think B or A is much more likely.  

Gonna go prepare myself mentally now for all the mean things that are about to be said about me.

Are you 12 years old? Are you chained to your keyboard? Does your mommy whip you and force you to interact with me on Politics and Society? No? I would have to conclude then if you don't like interacting with me in Politics and Society, the fact that you engage me is your own fault. I can't wipe those crocodile tears for you. Maybe some one else will.
2916  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: November 03, 2019, 05:03:28 PM
Note: Veleor shallow brain, very stupid, penis length is the size of his mind.
2917  Other / Meta / Re: Altcoin Discussion section needs some adjustment on: November 03, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
I am sure this is easier said than done, but could it maybe be possible for an OP to give management rights of a thread to a small group of members so they can use their own teams to manage the threads rather than draining moderator time? Altcoin Discussion has always, and in many ways will always be kind of a cesspool, but this combined with some self moderation ability might be a way to focus moderator time where it is more needed. Nothing is preventing anyone from raising issues about abuse in other parts of the forum, and via the trust system if they feel self moderation is being abused. It makes sense too because who has more interest in maintaining the quality of a thread than the team/individual hosting it?
2918  Economy / Goods / Re: [wts] rare antique cockfighting memoribilia including limited edition knife on: November 03, 2019, 12:37:48 PM
I want to sell this rare limited edition Kissing Crane Silver Spur Cock Fighting knife. It is number 004 which is extra rare single digit. My champion cock won it for me a few years ago.

It is important piece of cockfighting history and must go to a serious collector.

These are very hard to find especially the low serial number ones which only go to champion gamecocks.

Shipped worldwide for 0.015 bitcoin. escrow ok if buyer pays.

 Also I am selling rare spurs gaffes and cock boxing gloves. I have big collection going back to 1800s from all over the world. PM me what you looking for and I send pictures.

I will red trust anybody who tries get me to send to a city where this cockfighting memoribilia is illegal. even though its just collectible. that means no united states. This is not my policy this is bitcointalk rules.

I looked into the laws about this, and I think you may be misinterpreting the law. I think what is defined as "cockfighting memorabilia" is implements meant to attach to a cock like foot razors etc. Technically under the law you just have some knives with words on them. One sample I found for California, likely one of the most restrictive US States:

"Possessing Cockfighting Implements—Penal Code § 597i

Manufacturing, buying, selling, bartering, exchanging, or possessing any cockfighting implements (i.e., gaffs, slashers) or any other sharp implement designed to be attached to a rooster's leg is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for up to one year and/or a maximum $10,000 fine. If convicted, all cockfighting tools and implements must be forfeited."

https://www.lacriminaldefenseattorney.com/criminal-defense/animal-cruelty/cockfighting/

I can't seem to find any federal or even state laws banning what you have here. I am not a lawyer or anything and I might be wrong but I think you should be well within US law owning and selling these items. Using them, that is a different story. If you know a specific law you thinks restricts this I would be happy to look over it. Good luck with your sale.
2919  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 03, 2019, 12:24:47 PM
I don't care who is a Communist, as long as the Communist is treated the same as I am according to forum rules and policy. I have found many times that is not the case. I don't care if people disagree with me

That's hilarious. When's the last time you were civil to a "communist"? You care very deeply if people disagree with you to the point where you have to insult them over their beliefs if they don't align with yours. That's the problem. You can't just let a disagreement slide. TwitchySeal, for instance, has been extremely civil toward you and humble in his approach to dealing with you, and you in turn have been a massive dick.

You demand that not only the forum be perfect but be perfectly accorded with your vision of how the universe works. Well, hate to break it to you, but that's never gonna happen.

Who said anything about being civil? What does being "civil" mean? You get to define this of course. Again, thanks for making a great example of users not being able to separate their personal feelings from general forum conduct. I am not demanding anything, certainly not perfection. All I am doing is documenting publicly these interactions for review. You would be surprised how often the "universe" reacts some times to mere words alone.
2920  Other / Meta / Re: Why are my posts being deleted? on: November 03, 2019, 12:17:51 PM
The post was most likely deleted because it contained only quotes and no new content.

That's exactly why I reported it - no new content.

Bad enough TECHSHARE posts redundant circular bullshit that interferes with forum business development, but I'm not going to read his garbage if he's spewing the exact same words.  

And there we are, talking about obsessive stalkers abusing the system. Vod certainly doesn't have a pattern of abusing the forum rules and trust system does he? Regardless if you see it or not (or care to) people abuse these systems in a very targeted way. In this case it not only results in censorship by default but is an attempt at "gaslighting". Everyone along the way is following the rules, but considerations of intent and result often go ignored, intentionally or otherwise. I know you see it is the same group of users, and I would wager a very large percentage of those reports are from people who are publicly having a dispute with me. This is the buffer where selective enforcement and plausible deniability can exist, and the system is abused at a detriment to all of us.

Acting on these types of reports just incentivizes this kind of behavior even more, and cumulatively wastes a lot of moderator time. Additionally it creates an atmosphere on the forum where people are incentivized to not speak freely. Obsessively applying the rules can also be a form of abuse. It is like having a team of county inspectors following you around all day and taking notes, measurements, photos, etc so they can find ways to fine you for non-compliance for any constantly changing arbitrarily enforced code they can.
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