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3201  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: October 11, 2019, 08:27:05 AM
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And I am trying to get you to understand that the dems accuse their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, and of course anyone critical of them would appear hypocritical to people who believe them, that is the point of doing it.

And I"m trying to convince you both sides are guilty of the same thing.  Calling one out but not the other is hypocritical.  


"Omg, Bidens son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

"Omg, Trumps son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

They're both true.

Cool story bro.

"MORE Documents Implicate Joe Biden in Ukraine"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzreJhbfZE4
3202  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 11, 2019, 08:26:02 AM
Elections have consequences.  Don't forget that.


Sounds like a lesson you haven't come to terms with yet.
3203  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: October 11, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
Seriously.  Imagine what you would think and say if this email was actually about Biden and his son.

Calling everyone a hypocrite is TS's go-to move. It somehow magically eradicates all the evidence of his own hypocrisy. So long as he can still type that word on a keyboard, the irony will be lost on him.

Where did I call anyone hypocritical? Please quote. Thanks for proving my point Democrats love accusing their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.
3204  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 11, 2019, 07:36:14 AM
If we reverse the 2016 election, does that mean the 2018 election also gets reversed?

I think it must.

Maybe he means that if Trump gets removed from office, it opens up a rift in the space-time continuum and we return to a different parallel universe in 2016 where Clinton won the election. In which case the results of the 2018 election would indeed be reversed.

If you morons are going to jerk each other off to make yourselves feel like you made a point and feel better, can you at least go somewhere private like behind a dumpster or something so the rest of us don't have to be subjected to this pathetic display?
3205  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: October 11, 2019, 07:33:25 AM
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And I am trying to get you to understand that the dems accuse their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, and of course anyone critical of them would appear hypocritical to people who believe them, that is the point of doing it.
3206  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The ultimate weapon of radical feminists in India. Article 375. on: October 11, 2019, 06:54:23 AM
A similar laws was recently passed in Canada. Feminism is rapidly becoming a supremacy movement hellbent on making men second class disposable work mule tax slaves who can have their lives ended on the word of any woman.

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3207  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 11, 2019, 06:50:33 AM
Except Ukraine was not informed of the funding being held when he made the phone call, thus there is no way it could have been interpreted as being used as leverage over them because they were not aware of it. He probably did know the investigation was opening again, and wanted to make it clear to the new president that not only would he not resist the investigation, he wanted it to happen.

Are you saying you think that the investigation had been reopened and ongoing during the phone call, and Trump was fully aware that the investigation was ongoing at the time.

It's not impossible I guess, but it seems very unlikely.



Do we know exactly when/if the investigation was officially reopened?  Was it March?  Or do we just know that they were planning on it in Feb.

What I am saying is it doesn't matter and I don't care. The important part is the dems got baited into exposing their own crimes.
3208  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: October 11, 2019, 06:48:38 AM
Like I was saying, they are boxed in...

"Joe And Hunter Biden Could Be Forced To Testify During Trump Impeachment Trial"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/7/joe-biden-hunter-biden-could-be-forced-testify-don/

What do you think should happen to them if they get subpoenaed and refuse?

Charged with obstruction or contempt hopefully imo.  They'd also look guilty as hell right?

It's cute when you think you are being clever. I will answer yes, then you will try to tell me that Trump/Giuliani/the Ukrainian ambassador are refusing a subpoena, and you go "AHA! GOTCHA!". Only one minor problem with your narrative there cupcake. The dems can't issue any legally binding subpoenas until the impeachment process officially begins, but they sure as fuck will pretend to do so, knowing full well obedient lapdogs in the media will report it as fact, and NPCs such as yourself will regurgitate what the idiot box tells them it as if it was fact. Try again.
3209  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 11, 2019, 06:38:55 AM
This post reads like a cry-baby temper tantrum.

3210  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 11, 2019, 05:30:55 AM
Keep dreaming about a reversal of the 2016 election results.

This is such a silly way to put it.  A president leaving office before the end of his term doesn't 'reverse' anything.

The VP would become president.

That is a perfect way to put it, because that is exactly what it is.

Its perfect, just like Trump's phone calls. Its exactly the same thing as installing Hillary Clinton as president.

What the fuck are you even rambling on about Nutilduhh? I honestly don't know. No one said anything about installing Hillary, you are just pulling selective interpretations out of your ass to distract from the fact that the left has been losing its mind perpetually trying to remove Trump since 2016. None of your blithering means anything.
3211  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: October 11, 2019, 05:28:06 AM
Like I was saying, they are boxed in...

"Joe And Hunter Biden Could Be Forced To Testify During Trump Impeachment Trial"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/7/joe-biden-hunter-biden-could-be-forced-testify-don/
3212  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 11, 2019, 05:27:19 AM
There's obviously something missing here.

Assuming Solomon is right (big if), the new timeline is:

Feb 2019: Ukraine General Prosecutor re-opens Burisma investigation (or plans on re-opening)
April 21 2019: Ukraine Presidential Election
May 20 2019: New President takes office
July 15 2019: Trump stops ~$400m of aid to Ukraine
July 25 2019: Trump/Ukraine phone call
August 29 2019: New General Prosecutor for Ukraine takes office (replacing the guy that re-opened in Feb)

Couple possible explanations:

Trump didn't know that the investigation had already been opened (seems unlikely).

The investigation was closed before July 15, and now that there was a new President (and soon to be new Prosecutor) Trump figured he could get them to open the investigation for the third time.



If this were something that made Trump look good, and Trump knew about it, he'd be screaming it from the hilltops weeks ago.  Now that it's been on fox news though, I bet he starts.

Except Ukraine was not informed of the funding being held when he made the phone call, thus there is no way it could have been interpreted as being used as leverage over them because they were not aware of it. He probably did know the investigation was opening again, and wanted to make it clear to the new president that not only would he not resist the investigation, he wanted it to happen.

The big picture you on the left are missing here is that this phone call was primarily designed as a trap, as made evident by his mentioning of Crowdstrike during the call. He is a brilliant tactician who understands the Democrat dynamic of accusing their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, and they would not be able to resist trying to cast this as foreign election interference. The Democrat party and the media took the bait hook, line, and sinker, and he used them all to blow the Biden corruption wide open. This is judo 101, using your enemy's momentum and force against them. Your unrelenting blind hysteria is only serving him now.
3213  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Question] Norman Rockwell Plates Any Interest? on: October 11, 2019, 03:53:51 AM
I'm looking at selling off 50 plates of Norman Rockwell for a quilter from Crypto Quilts.

I have very little understanding of them and if anyone here knows the market or interested give me a shout.



I don't know about the specific line you have there, but unfortunately I always see stacks and stacks of Norman Rockwell plates at second hand shops for cheap. Do some searches on eBay for "sold" items to be sure.
3214  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What to do about people who believe that stealing is ok on: October 11, 2019, 03:26:25 AM
Humans won't reproduce infinitely if they are educated.  Educating everyone isn't just going to benefit the poor.  Its going to benefit the entire society without breaking an incentive.  Survival is not the only incentive.  Theres still a huge gap between having the bare essentials and being rich.  No one wants to get rid of that gap.

Its not just "some" people or "some" times.  You need to realize that most people are poor.  Two thirds of the world's population don't even have access to clean freshwater throughout the year.    Half of the world live on less than 6 dollars a day.  The poor of the future will be even worse off.   A system that fails most people is a failed system.  We just happen to be in the exception of people who have benefited by fluke.  

Reality is already a nightmare by your own account so theres no point in staying idle and letting all of humanity's solutions to these problems go to waste.

You sure are making lots of assumptions about things that will have tremendously horrible results when you are proven wrong. Saying people will not reproduce infinitely if educated is like saying no one will starve if they have food. It is a nonsense premise that seems self evident while simultaneously having zero assurance of being achieved, and furthermore if it is not achieved the result is there aren't enough resources for anyone and mass death and suffering increases, possibly to terminal levels for humanity and other species.

You need to realize you aren't enlightened for imagining a better world. You aren't saying anything new, profound, or even useful. What you are advocating for is 100% based in ethos, and has no basis in reality. You can imagine a world where everyone gets a pony, but that makes no difference in bringing that to reality. It simply is not possible, that its without horrible freedom crushing technocratic totalitarianism where humans are managed like cattle and make none of their own choices.

More and more people are being brought out of poverty than ever before in human history in spite of your winging and despair. You don't have any  solutions, you have fantasies with no functional plan to get there. You fail to realize you are only taking those that don't live in a nightmare and sending them and everyone else to an even worse hell.


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3215  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 10, 2019, 08:33:16 PM
Makes you wonder what changed with FOX. I'd be willing to bet we could follow the money and find a funding change that occurred prior to them hiring those people.

If I remember right, Rupert Murdoch was forced out some how.


Its cute that these tards think Fox News is the voice of the conservatives just because that is all they are ever exposed to on their glowing retard box.

It's not a stretch to say Tucker, Hannity and the Fox and Friends anchors are a voice for the Trump administration.

Tucker is alright, I am still not a fan of any of those other knobs. Funny how he is constantly under pressure to censor his reporting and is repeatedly suspended for what he says. One, more reliable voice on the network does not give the entirety of the network credibility no matter how much people like you think every conservative loves Fox and only Fox.


Keep dreaming about a reversal of the 2016 election results.

This is such a silly way to put it.  A president leaving office before the end of his term doesn't 'reverse' anything.

The VP would become president.

That is a perfect way to put it, because that is exactly what it is. This has been a non-stop hysterical fit from the left over losing control and a deluge of lies, media hype, and politically based non-stop investigations on going since he became a serious contender. He is dismantling the destructive legacy of the left as well as the establishment in general, and that is what they desperately want to reverse.
3216  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What to do about people who believe that stealing is ok on: October 10, 2019, 08:19:57 PM
We need a system where all workers are financially independent. There are two parts to my argument.  
1. Workers should not be poor. This is not saying that workers should be rich but just that they should have an acceptable bare minimum.  

2. People should not be born into poverty.  Of course I am absolving a child who is not properly fed of any personal responsibility for their financial situation.  What kind of monster would blame children for being born poor.  Of course there is a certain age, where children are no longer children and should have developed their own sense of responsibility but that is all depending on proper conditions for their cognitive development.

A child who experiences severe trauma throughout childhood will have their executive functioning abilities hindered.  It shouldn't be hard to understand that irresponsible behavior is more a symptom of poverty than a cause of it.  

Being born with access to basic necessities like food, shelter, health, and education is not "the other side".  I've only ever lived with these things because I was born into it.   The grass is greener on my side and I want to include everyone else.

No one has preached to live in the Soviet system.  Just because I am condemning capitalism does not mean I am endorsing the Soviet system.  Both are bad enough that its not even worth arguing which is better.   No one has lived in communism nor is that being suggested here.  Yet another soft strawman.  Social democracy like that in Northern Europe is a much better first step than totalitarian government though. I've preached everyone having opportunity and fairness in the work place.  Thats not communism.  The social democracies of Northern Europe still have a long way to go but at least they have achieved a level of dignity I consider acceptable.

UBI would also be a great first step.  Welfare and UBI don't solve all problems of capitalism but are essentially bandaids that provide dignity to the poor living in a system that is designed to crush them.  The rare exception of special people who can overcome poverty is anecdotal and in no way represents the general nature of the system.  

The problem with your logic (or rather lack of) is that you suffer under the delusion that everyone can be saved. You are seeking a fantasy that is impossible to implement, and every time it is tried it results in a living nightmare. Humans can potentially reproduce infinitely. Resources are not infinite no matter how much money you hand out. If you break the incentive for the producers to provide for all of us, everyone loses. In the real world bad things happen. People suffer. This is a fact of life. Your inability to come to terms with this is a result of your own infantilization living such a privileged life. Some of us made it to the life boat, some didn't. You just continually trying to jam more and more people onto the life boat means it sinks and we all drown.

You aren't a man who has suffered, you are a child misleading other children into a delusional and fatal fantasy where the police are always your friend, the doctor always wants to heal you, and the government always has your best interest at heart. You are doing nothing but preparing the next generation to fail because you can't cope with the fact that some times people end up in horrible situations, and it isn't necessarily anyone's fault. You aren't Jesus Christ and you aren't going to save the world, and you will burn it down trying.
3217  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 10, 2019, 05:18:22 PM
FOX is nowhere near what is was a few years ago.

Its cute that these tards think Fox News is the voice of the conservatives just because that is all they are ever exposed to on their glowing retard box. Keep dreaming about a reversal of the 2016 election results while we prepare for 4 more years.

I stopped watching news altogether years ago when I got rid of cable.

But didnt I hear FOX hired Sam Sheppard (fired by CNN) and Donna Bazille (DNC corrupt leader) ?


Yeah and that Gutfeld guy Youtube keeps trying to force feed me really annoys the piss out of me. He is like a 2nd rate wannabe Colbert, who is himself a 2nd rate hack, so I dunno what that makes Gutfeld.
3218  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Rogan is Now Being Targeted for De-Monetization. on: October 10, 2019, 05:05:01 PM
^^^ Joe Rogan might be a disgusting example of a human being for lots of reasons. But to censor him for speech that is bringing a lot of truth into the open isn't right. If one is going to censor on the basis of disgust, one would have to censor a whole lot more people off the social sites. But the USA is built around freedom of speech.

What is happening and will happen even more is, people like Rogan and Alex Jones will find ways around the censors. And when they do, the public will be introduced to a lot of vulgar talk, but they will also be introduced to the dangers that the one-worlders are bringing on all of us with their dictatorial activities worldwide.

Cool

I don't agree with censorship or what youtube is doing regardless of who it is. That said Joe is not bringing truth, he is a gatekeeper.  He also didn't object when it happened to others, so I really have no sympathy for him.
3219  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 10, 2019, 05:00:59 PM
FOX is nowhere near what is was a few years ago.

Its cute that these tards think Fox News is the voice of the conservatives just because that is all they are ever exposed to on their glowing retard box. Keep dreaming about a reversal of the 2016 election results while we prepare for 4 more years.
3220  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Rogan is Now Being Targeted for De-Monetization. on: October 10, 2019, 03:10:17 PM
Fuck Toe Rogan. That midget shill just sucks whatever dick is placed in front of him and has no principles of his own. He made excuses for all of these actions, now he gets to join them.
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