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2921  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 03, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
I never said politics should be banned from this thread either. I pointed out that you and your circular jerk pals can not restrain yourself from puking out your pathological aversion to my political views long enough to have a discussion about forum policy. I brought up Flying Hellfish's views only in the context that it effects his bias as a moderator. Your bringing up my views over an over again is only a factor of your inability to control your revulsion with people having opinions you don't agree with and it has no relevance to the thread.

You're lying and projecting as usual. I don't have a problem with disagreements, in fact debate is an essential part of a forum like this. Unfortunately anyone disagreeing with you automatically becomes a "communist" and subject to sprawling conspiracy theories. Whether you truly believe that bullshit or just use it as an excuse for trolling (real or pretend "views") it's fully relevant to your constant whining about forum rules and moderation. As evidenced by this topic and the made-up story about FHF deleting his own thread.

What exactly am I lying about? Please quote. You are pulling the classic Vod technique of accusing me of lying but never being able to quote this supposed lie. Of course to you, anything you don't agree with is a lie, because only you know the truth right?

The problem is your comments are just like many of the constant other examples of people who have disagreements with me in Politics & Society. Often they are the very same ones that let that emotion bleed into general forum conduct and abuse the various systems in anyway possible to play sad little games for having the audacity of not agreeing. I doubt that some of you can even separate the two issues. I don't care who is a Communist, as long as the Communist is treated the same as I am according to forum rules and policy. I have found many times that is not the case. I don't care if people disagree with me (clearly), what I care about is people taking that ill will from having open discussions on controversial subjects and abusing the forum's systems to "fight" ideas they don't like in another way.
2922  Economy / Reputation / Re: Wrongful accusation by Timelord. Did Yahoo put him in DT? on: November 03, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
The point is not that. The point is why would I get kicked out of a campaign where I was following every rule? I did come out of the wood but I did not spam. I even earn merit from suchmoon when I come back. So why should everyone else get a chance to earn from that campaign and I kicked out because of one bully?

I dont expect the community to stick out their neck for me. Not many people know me here. But I hope at least the man that is managing a large campaign like this, would be fair. Am I wrong to assume that?

My first post in this thread is expressing my opinion that he's wrong in this case, and I don't feel like expressing my honest opinion is "sticking my neck out."  It's just my opinion, like Timelord's review is his own.

But I think you're missing the point of the forum.  By your own admission you only came here to earn a few sats, rather than to be a participant in the community and discussion of bitcoin.  It's my opinion that alone makes you a spammer, regardless how many merit you earn and from whom.

I thought the philosophies of a libertarian forum like this would be more in line with famous jurist William Blackstone's ratio:
"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

I like that, and although I don't describe myself as a libertarian I tend to agree with the sentiment.  But the trust system isn't a court of law.  No one is going to jail because Timelord leaves a negative review on his trust wall.  We are all adults, and we are all entitled to take every review any way we choose. 

I have my reasons for valuing Timelords efforts.  I run a business here that leaves me very vulnerable to those who abuse alt accounts.  So, yeah I find "his efforts are a tremendous contribution."  I may have my selfish reasons, but I also expressed that "I may not always agree with his findings."  If you're going to quote me, please be thorough, not selective.



You clarify his findings are not always accurate, but you value them for selfish reasons anyway. I am not selectively focusing on anything.

Wrong.  I value his efforts, not his findings.  Words matter, you understand them, stop pretending you don't.

Yes, you value his efforts personally and for profit. Of course it costs you nothing if he is wrong. That is an externalized cost that is paid in the form of driving away good users, which as a result ironically ends up with more people buying accounts. Think of it like a criminal robbing a gas station. If the penalty is the same for being armed or not being armed, most criminals would choose to go further and be armed anyway knowing the penalty is equally as high either way. The same logic is true with excessive and arbitrary trust ratings and flags. People get wrapped up in relatively minor things and are more willing to just burn what they have and or go for the bigger con since they all all treated the same anyway. Basically the cons are Joker and the BitCops are Batman. They are literally creating more Jokers. Jokers will always be there but this system of frivolous shotgun ratings is literally incentivizing it.

Again, a non-intentioned con man user will usually do one of two things if they are falsely accused. They will either say fuck this place and rob whatever they can, or say fuck this place and never come back. Unfortunately the real cons are back again in seconds on a new bought account. The trust system should not be used like a sledge hammer, it should be treated like a ballpene hammer pinning down a con with a bunch of tack nails. This gives legitimate users breathing room, and will not give any realistic advantages to cons that they couldn't easily bypass. At absolute best you are burning accounts, creating value for them by reducing supply, and again incentivizing people to buy accounts and thus for others to sell them. Its like the war on drugs. Eventually the enforcement action literally becomes the mechanism by which illicit drugs have value, because the value is determined by risk, and risk is directly correlated with levels of enforcement. In short this methodology is the BitCop's, cutting the community's nose off to spite its face.
2923  Economy / Reputation / Re: Wrongful accusation by Timelord. Did Yahoo put him in DT? on: November 02, 2019, 08:13:56 PM
You explicitly said you value his "contributions" for "selfish reasons" in spite of the fact his accusations are unreliable and cause harm to other users. I am sorry if you want to take that back now, but it was your own words, not "form" my reasoning.

Here are my words, unedited, and not retracted:

I may have my selfish reasons, but I also expressed that "I may not always agree with his findings."

It's only one sentence, but you selectively choose to focus on half of it.


P.S. I already have your goat, and if you don't shape up I am going to let Nutilduhh have his way with him.

Genuine lolz, that was funny.  But I have a feeling Nutildah is still having too much fun with Cryptohunter's goat.

https://benchristie.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/wpid-sheepstockingshigh-heels-funny-photos-and-funniest-images.jpeg

Actually I originally quoted the whole thing. The other half is not exactly exonerating you anyway. You clarify his findings are not always accurate, but you value them for selfish reasons anyway. I am not selectively focusing on anything.

This is part of the problem with this default trust nepotism protection racket. People get all hyper focused on what serves them personally and unless people are helping them everyone else can go fuck themselves, they are on their own. Knowing this attitude is prevalent others take advantage of it and pressure compliance with a core group of users pushing out anyone with a dissenting opinion, and devaluing anyone who doesn't belong to the special boys club. You said it. You also claimed that because this user returned to earn via a signature ad he is not a contributing member from your lofty special boy perch. Again, this is exactly what I meant by you abandoning your principals. It is no longer about what is fair, right, or best for the community, it is now about what serves you and protects your position. Maybe you can make some more accusations about me being desperate to be on the default trust as I continually call out those most able to place me there. Maybe no one will notice your desperation to stay on it at all costs if you project hard enough.
2924  Other / Meta / Re: Why are my posts being deleted? on: November 02, 2019, 08:05:16 PM
Or maybe you can stop making accusations about subjects I already addressed and we can skip the whole thing.

Gotcha, it's my fault again that you're making shit up. I apologize.

I would ask you to clarify what you are accusing me of making up, but of course your accusations sound just as damning even when they are based on nothing but your imagination don't they?
2925  Other / Meta / Re: Which rank can we trust really? on: November 02, 2019, 07:58:24 PM
Only the most rank of all, corpses. Only they are guaranteed not to cheat you.
2926  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 02, 2019, 07:40:04 PM
Regardless the difference between your posts and mine is it was relevant to the reasons why his moderation was bias.

First of all, you're arguing with yourself. I never said that politics should be banned from this thread. It's impossible to discuss the topic without referring to what an utter conspiracy nutjob and a rancid troll you are, which is one of the challenges FHF is facing on that board.

But even according to your own made-up "no politics" rule, it turns out that it's ok for you to bring up politics, once because of irrelevance, and once more because of relevance. So why don't you dispense with the facade and tell us how you really feel. Do we need a conspiracy sub-board in P&S, and appoint your buddy Quickseller as a mod? That should take care of most of the issues there I think.

I never said politics should be banned from this thread either. I pointed out that you and your circular jerk pals can not restrain yourself from puking out your pathological aversion to my political views long enough to have a discussion about forum policy. I brought up Flying Hellfish's views only in the context that it effects his bias as a moderator. Your bringing up my views over an over again is only a factor of your inability to control your revulsion with people having opinions you don't agree with and it has no relevance to the thread.
2927  Economy / Reputation / Re: Wrongful accusation by Timelord. Did Yahoo put him in DT? on: November 02, 2019, 12:48:06 AM
Did I selectively edit anything out?

Only form your reasoning.


It looks to me like you are saying that you value Timelord's ratings because it personally serves you economically regardless of the negative impact his irresponsible shotgun approach has on others.

Valuing his efforts and condoning his behavior aren't the same thing, which I clearly (and politely) expressed.  I don't suspect you have any issues with reading comprehension, so I think you know that.  But that doesn't serve your argument, does it?

The rest of your argument is just more postulating, playing on semantics, and throwing insults, so yeah, whatever.  You've been trying to get my goat for several weeks now, I'm not gonna let you have it.

No one should blindly trust his feedback without double and/or triple checking them

I couldn't agree more with this statement, but realistically the same could (or should) be said for most of the members of this forum.  We're all human, and we're all subject to emotional outbursts.  Some, more than others seem to have taken up the habit of turning their emotional outbursts into negative reviews.

I also agree that the accusation about you and Lauda was just silly and petty.

You explicitly said you value his "contributions" for "selfish reasons" in spite of the fact his accusations are unreliable and cause harm to other users. I am sorry if you want to take that back now, but it was your own words, not "form" my reasoning. Also, you didn't bother addressing any of my other quite valid points about you acting all superior and standing in judgement of the lesser plebeians who roam this forum. Convenient you just summarily dismiss that rather than bothering to respond.

P.S. I already have your goat, and if you don't shape up I am going to let Nutilduhh have his way with him.
2928  Other / Meta / Re: Why are my posts being deleted? on: November 02, 2019, 12:39:11 AM
As you can see I am quoting myself in response to a criticism I already addressed in lieu of repeating myself. Apparently defending my arguments against their special friends is off topic. Whoever is doing this is getting rather brazen.

You're being ridiculous (what else is new). The post was most likely deleted because it contained only quotes and no new content. Look on the bright side - now you can report my reply there as a multi-post.

Or maybe you can stop making accusations about subjects I already addressed and we can skip the whole thing.
2929  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 02, 2019, 12:36:44 AM

Why didn't I mention he is a Canadian? Why didn't I mention he is a Communist?

Of course you would approve of his moderation, he is a self proclaimed Communist

https://i.imgflip.com/3f0m71.jpg



in the context of it being totally irrelevant to the conversation

How could you... report yourself for being off topic.

Oh jeeze, you caught me, I should have searched through the entire thread with a fine tooth comb like you did. Clearly that was a lie that I never expected anyone could have caught me in seeing as it is all a public thread an everything. Should we count how many references to my politics you, Nutilduhh, and Twitchyseal have made)? Regardless the difference between your posts and mine is it was relevant to the reasons why his moderation was bias. Your posts... are just your inability to restrain yourself from bringing politics into it for no other reason than the fact that I have ideas that you don't approve of enrages you to the point you can't separate forum policy from your emotions about your political beliefs and has no relevance to the topic.
2930  Other / Meta / Re: Why are my posts being deleted? on: November 02, 2019, 12:31:52 AM
Another deleted post...


Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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Timelord is burning people's reputations, he is directly removing the ability to earn from people based on little to no evidence with frivolous accusations.

Timelord2067 is not in DT. He's not directly removing anything, yahoo62278 did that, and you should be appealing to him, if you insist on telling people on this forum how to run their business.

I am not even criticizing Yahoos choice, I am criticizing Timelords actions, so your argument about him running the campaign anyway he likes is a non-sequitur.


As you can see I am quoting myself in response to a criticism I already addressed in lieu of repeating myself. Apparently defending my arguments against their special friends is off topic. Whoever is doing this is getting rather brazen.
2931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: November 02, 2019, 12:28:14 AM
Beto O'Rourke is dropping out of the presidential race.

Quote
Mr. O’Rourke planned to announce his withdrawal from the race in Iowa on Friday evening and follow up with an email message to his supporters. In that message, a draft of which was reviewed by The New York Times, Mr. O’Rourke said he was proud of championing issues like guns and climate change but conceded that his campaign lacked “the means to move forward successfully.”

“My service to the country will not be as a candidate or as the nominee,” he said. 


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/us/politics/beto-orourke-drops-out.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

I honestly didn't see that coming few months ago, wasn't he considered as one of the candidates who actually have some chances of winning?


#oneless
2932  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 01, 2019, 07:47:26 PM
Where is the part that is relevant to the conversation other than your claims of a tangential relationship? Oh right, there is none, you all are just frothing at the mouth for any opportunity to smite me for daring to have views you don't approve of, and thus you can't even manage to have a conversation about forum policy without injecting politics into it.

Didn't you call some users "communists" earlier in the thread? I look forward to you twisting it into totally not a political thing.

For the record, I fully approve you being a conspiracy nutjob and I don't have any intent to smite you - I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

I absolutely did, once, in the context of it being totally irrelevant to the conversation. Nice try at spin there. I don't much care what you say your intent is, your inability to separate politics from forum policy discussion does all the talking for you.
2933  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 01, 2019, 07:12:00 PM
Not total lack of awareness, lack of giving a fuck if you or anyone else approves. You and your pal Nutillduuuh have trouble separating your emotions and opinions from facts as demonstrated quite clearly by your obsessive reply chain here repeatedly addressing politics in the Meta section. It is almost like you can barely restrain yourself.

It's a thread about you, FHF, and P&S. Would be weird if we were addressing Ethereum hard fork and Halle Berry but hey, you're the on-topicness expert around here so just tell us what we're allowed to talk about.

Where is the part that is relevant to the conversation other than your claims of a tangential relationship? Oh right, there is none, you all are just frothing at the mouth for any opportunity to smite me for daring to have views you don't approve of, and thus you can't even manage to have a conversation about forum policy without injecting politics into it.
2934  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does MEDIA affect you? A poll on: November 01, 2019, 07:07:12 PM
Even if you don't watch TV, the programming still gets directed to you passively via 3rd parties who do. That is the wonder of propaganda, it spreads like a disease.
2935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Journalists PANICKING After CA Law Effectively ENDING Freelance Journalism on: November 01, 2019, 03:22:42 PM
It is not hyperbolic at all. Are you claiming some one can make a career as a freelance journalist only submitting 35 articles annually? No? Then that is effectively the end of freelance journalism in that state.

Its 35 articles per employer. Its not effectively the end of freelance journalism. News agencies aren't going to keep cycling through employees after they reach 34 articles, unless if the product they need doesn't require much specific skill to generate. Regardless, if the economy dictates it, they will find a way around the issue. The law isn't even written clearly enough to make firm standards of enforcement. They need to be clarified by judicial rulings.

By definition the bill intends to force companies to hire permanent employees, thus its DIRECT INTENT is to restrict freelance journalism to the point that it is effectively not a viable career option.

The direct intent of the bill is to provide higher wages and better benefits to journalists. Freelance journalism simply isn't ending. Its not. I'm also encouraged in my viewpoint by realizing that no dire proclamation you've ever made has ever come true. You are 0 for 100+.

Oh, 35 articles per employer, much better! No they won't cycle through people, they will just stop hiring and or go out of business because this field already has extremely thin and shrinking profit margins. This bill could have the intent to give every man woman and child a bubblegum flavored lollipop, that doesn't mean it will acheive its goal as intended. The fact is though the entire purpose of the bill is to make freelance contracting not viable, effectively ending it in certain fields.



the youtuber talks about doing 5 articls a day..
thats 2 hours an article.
sorry but that does not sem like much rsearch time

ok lets math this out.

5arts a day for 5 days=25 so say someone neds to live comfortably for $400 a week.
thats $16 an article($9 an hour.. sounds about right for such quick storys)

now imagine 2 scenarios.
(a) out of 365 days minus weekends =261 minus 4 weeks vacation= 233
thats on article every 7 workdays
so effectively to 'live' on that amount an article write cant just blog its way through random statements but actually show a story of such research depth and wordplay that it actually shows 7 days of labour went into it..
.. in short the journalists have to put alot more effort into their work

(b) local news media has to employee staff as actual employees if they want to continue pushing out tripe in the form of quick unreesearched cheap crap 'news' stories

If they are producing lesser quality products it is for the market to decide if they continue to operate, not the government. No matter how much you hope this will magically increase the quality of journalism, all it is doing is creating a regulatory bar preventing smaller organizations from participating in favor of larger corporations who can afford to be in compliance, which is the whole point to crush independent voices. You know what they say about intentions and the road to hell don't you?
2936  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: November 01, 2019, 03:10:22 PM
It's a very twisted, sick fuck of a mis definition that argues that a sitting President is not a citizen and entitled to all the rights of a citizen.

He absolutely has rights as an individual citizen.

But not when it comes to an impeachment investigation.

I hear you saying something you like to say, but I'm not interested any more than whether you like oranges or apples. You made a fairly crazy, illogical assertion and the result was that I refuted it.

If you want to produce a logical argument to support your belief, go do it, otherwise, don't waste peoples' time.
Looking back at my posts I def wasn't doing the best job at explaining my stance.  Let me try again:

'Due Process in the Court of Law' is for when the government decides whether to take someones property, throw them in jail or execute them.  

Congress can not provide due process because they do not have the power to decide these things.  (They make the laws, it would go against the whole idea of our system if they also had the power to enforce them)

Congress is not trying to take away the presidents life, liberty or property.  They're just deciding whether to fire him from his job or not.

He isn't owed any more 'due process' than a CEO that gets voted out by the shareholders/board of a company.


"Introduction

The Constitution states only one command twice. The Fifth Amendment says to the federal government that no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." The Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, uses the same eleven words, called the Due Process Clause, to describe a legal obligation of all states. These words have as their central promise an assurance that all levels of American government must operate within the law ("legality") and provide fair procedures. Most of this essay concerns that promise. We should briefly note, however, three other uses that these words have had in American constitutional law."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/due_process

The constitution is clear. No one said anything about just courts, it clearly says ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT and DUE PROCESS OF LAW with FAIR PROCEDURES, not "due process of court". So now carrying out his duties as a duly elected president is not part of his liberty now is it? What about the people who elected him? Fuck their liberty too right? Careful with all that stretching, you are about to break your back bending over backwards to justify totalitarianism.

By the way, still no comment on those non-subpoena subpoenas? You would think you would want to defend your position from such a clear example demonstrating the Democrat and the media's willingness to totally lie to the American people to get their narrative pushed, as well as their willingness to operate completely outside the due process of law, but I guess not.
2937  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 01, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Remind me again what my personal satisfaction has to do with other people following the rules? I know you are trying to equate the two, but it is just not making any sense. I get great joy from exposing these types of behaviors. Even if it means obsessive control freaks like you and your buddies feel the need to constantly inject yourself into every action I take, or word I speak at any opportunity in a desperate effort to try to manufacture your preferred narrative around me, and send a clear message to anyone else who might think of not swearing fealty to your protection racket, I am still achieving my goal.

I for one wouldn't dare to deprive you of this great joy so I'll continue to ridicule your total lack of self-awareness every time I get a chance. I hope nutildah will keep creating threads that inject themselves into your actions and I'll make sure to read the dictionary tonight to find out what kind of crime a "narrative" is so that I could do that part as well. No effort shall be spared for such noble goals.

Not total lack of awareness, lack of giving a fuck if you or anyone else approves. You and your pal Nutillduuuh have trouble separating your emotions and opinions from facts as demonstrated quite clearly by your obsessive reply chain here repeatedly addressing politics in the Meta section. It is almost like you can barely restrain yourself.
2938  Economy / Reputation / Re: Wrongful accusation by Timelord. Did Yahoo put him in DT? on: November 01, 2019, 01:35:06 AM
~

Excuse me for giving you the benefit of the doubt and not assuming that you were simply lying when you said this: "he is directly removing the ability to earn from people". Timelord2067 has no such powers.

I am a liar for making a point you disagree with am I? It would be a shame if I didn't agree with you and you had to damage my reputation now wouldn't it?
2939  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: November 01, 2019, 01:33:23 AM
"A powerful elected official does not, and should not have the same rights that an American individual does when it comes to being investigated for corruption."

You are explicitly saying here that elected officials don't get due process, yet you just got done telling me about how its not ok to ignore the rule of law.

I was actually using the term 'due process' wrong, my bad.  I thought it just meant a generally considered fair process.

I just looked it up:

noun
noun: due process; noun: due process of law
fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement.


So yeah, a sitting president isn't entitled to due process regarding impeachment under this definition.

Remember , congress doesn't have any power to charge anyone with a crime.  They are just people that got elected to represent Americans from each District/State.  Ideally their vote should be based on what the people they represent think.


Just because you can be impeached for committing a crime, doesn't make you guilty in the eyes of law.  Everyone, even the former president that was just impeached, has a right to due process as soon as someone else has assumed the role of president.  They will absolutely be considered innocent until proven guilty in an actual court or law.


You should probably link your source, plagiarism is a bannable offense, but not for special people like you who don;t need to follow the rules I am sure. How many definitions did you have to cherry pick before you found one vague enough to confirm your bias? No matter, lets look at a LEGAL dictionary.

"Introduction

The Constitution states only one command twice. The Fifth Amendment says to the federal government that no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." The Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, uses the same eleven words, called the Due Process Clause, to describe a legal obligation of all states. These words have as their central promise an assurance that all levels of American government must operate within the law ("legality") and provide fair procedures. Most of this essay concerns that promise. We should briefly note, however, three other uses that these words have had in American constitutional law."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/due_process


So in summary, your assumptions are absolutely wrong, again. Speaking of being wrong again, how about those non-subpoena subpoenas? Still no comment?
2940  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 01, 2019, 01:27:03 AM
Who said I was unhappy to participate in any of this?

If you're happy will all that then you should probably stop wasting moderator's time with the frivolous reports. You may also want to disclose your fetish when you make these public complaints because for sane people "a small group of  very vocal people [...] who make a habit of obsessively following me around" may sound like a negative.

Remind me again what my personal satisfaction has to do with other people following the rules? I know you are trying to equate the two, but it is just not making any sense. I get great joy from exposing these types of behaviors. Even if it means obsessive control freaks like you and your buddies feel the need to constantly inject yourself into every action I take, or word I speak at any opportunity in a desperate effort to try to manufacture your preferred narrative around me, and send a clear message to anyone else who might think of not swearing fealty to your protection racket, I am still achieving my goal.
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