I saw this video today and couldn't help but think of the current people ruling over the default trust

"double binds | narcissistic ‘no-win’ mind games"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSiJOOdo30

"Giuliani claims he has Ukrainian docs showing 'collusion' with top Dems "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOVsLNmmA70


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7523253/Photo-reveals-Joe-Hunter-Biden-golfing-Ukraine-gas-company-executive-2014.html

This. Don't get me wrong, if it is you I am glad to see you back. It would just be a shame to let some dirty nut hustler ruin such an old school profile.

Your entire argument is a tone complaint. You made a bunch of accusations, they turned out to go too far, now all you have left to rely on is your interpretation of what you say is a lie. No victims, No damage, Just a busybody gatekeeper burning people's reputations and making notches in your rifle congratulating yourself on ranking up while you and your BitCop buddies stand around and jerk each other off over how just you think you are. Who needs to be right when you can just be popular? That way there is no one left to challenge you.

I am willing to bet the OP is either an alt of Lutpin's or at least a friend. People around here are generally too self serving to bother with this kind of thing.

Oh I am sure, I wasn't so much addressing you personally as giving a general reply. Based on recent events it seems you are savvy enough know when it is the time to fight and when it is time for flight. When they actually bring the battleship is usually a good time for flight...

That's when you say "Cool, how many? We got several armed men inside the store right now. I just wanna know how many more we need to call. Lets have a shootout."

One thing I learned working security for several years is crazy respects crazy as long as it is not a dismissive challenging their manhood type challenge. If you are just crazy enough for them to not be sure how things will end up they just walk away 95% of the time. I have stood down up to 3 men just as large or larger than me at once using this technique on my own. The trick is to make sure you project full confidence, because if you flinch, stutter, fumble, or show any sign of fear at all it could backfire badly. Predators seek out weakness, just don't show them any.

Can you sign an old address please? Last I checked and if I remember right your account was hacked.

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There you go Timmy, go show grandma your Christmas conch shell mask. Good thing its durable and wont stretch out, after all who wants an old stretched out deformed conch shell?

If I were to guess based on my experience around here Theymos doesn't want to set that precedent. As you said previously often the truth is not completely evident and if that were the precedent it could wind up wrapping  up more innocent users. Not to mention the admins and staff already have plenty to deal with without being the designated forum babysitters.

Theymos's default has usually been to let us manage ourselves if at all possible, and when he deviates from that it more often than not results in unintended consequences. The reason I suggested everyone watch them like a hawk and report everything report-able is that if he sees that enough people are tired of their shit he might decide to push that nuke button.

"Shokin told me in written answers to questions that, before he was fired as general prosecutor, he had made “specific plans” for the investigation that “included interrogations and other crime-investigation procedures into all members of the executive board, including Hunter Biden.”"

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

Once again, as I repeatedly explained before,your timeline is meaningless for several reasons. First of all he was receiving payments from Burima Holdings well before he was on the board. Second, I already mentioned, Hunter Biden being placed in the very lucrative board position AFTER Joe Biden fixed their prosecutor problem could have just as easily been part of their payoff/reward for doing so.

Regardless if Hunter was the one to initiate the original crimes that started the investigation, it certainly does seem evident he was quite complicit in helping to hide those crimes by selling his father's influence for pay. Also, at the time Biden made those public statements, he probably never imagined his powerful international cartel buddies would lose control, and would prevent any repercussions against him no matter what he said. Criminals at this level are quite known for falling to their own hubris after all.

 But you didn't just modestly ask did you? You started off with accusations and demands from the start. Shocking that he didn't respond to that, I don't know why anyone would react that way to demands and accusations from a busybody digital cop wannabe with very little knowledge of his business model.

This is something that has been discussed ad nauseam in the past. We shouldn't be stripping down features of the forum when the trust system, report to moderation, and making your own threads are more than sufficient. I was around before this feature existed. To this day a similar problem sill exists, and to a lesser extent still does, of users trolling the marketplace posts for their own amusement or to target certain members and prevent them from trading legitimately, then claiming they are simply warning people of XYZ for example and cry censorship when they're asked to stop. They may also object to the specific good being offered and do their best to prevent it from being traded, leaving the seller with few options to trade legitimately.

This might not seem like a big deal to those who don't sell in the section or only do so occasionally, but it really doesn't take much to turn people off of a sale. Most buying habits are compulsive, so a little thing like one guy making up some bullshit is possible to stop the vast majority of sales. Self moderation exists in those sections for good reason.

You didn't make any points. You made claims. Claims that make no sense which I have already addressed by explaining what is actually going on by referencing the historical links to this current fiasco. Oh I am certain Lutsenko knows exactly what happened, because he was part of the coup and is desperate to cover his own ass.

You keep jerkin your cocktail girkin over dreams of ousting Trump over media hype while minimizing a well documented history of corruption, extortion, and treason. LOL, "finer details". Way to make extortion sound like a classy tuxedo gala while you treat the king's castle like a McDonald's bathroom. The only people that still believe your narrative are the desperate feckless ostriches like you who think one day they're going to click their heels together 3 times and the 2016 election results will magically be reversed.

Ron Paul Asks: "Impeachment... Or CIA Coup?"
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/september/30/impeachment-or-cia-coup/

No loans are risk free. This standard you are applying here could literally be applied to any loan, period. If you or anyone else doesn't know that you are retarded and are absolutely going to be robbed eventually no matter how many users you burn at the stake. You decided Cryptosparks was guilty first and then went on a hunt to justify your position parallel construction style. He saw it as a risk free loan, you don't. That doesn't make him a liar or justify all of this bullshit you have falsified around his trading platform to try to shore up your extremely flimsy accusation. This discrepancy could have all been solved with a simple suggestion to him that you feel he shouldn't be calling it a risk free loan, but what fun is that? You want people to burn to get your fix feeling like you are ranking up in a game ad gotta buff those stats.

You are right about one thing though, I absolutely am a cunt. A cunt who isn't going anywhere and is going to continue calling out the destructive overzealous BitCop wannabe gatekeeping behavior until it changes. That's just my character, just as it is your character is to find people you can punch down at with impunity.

Oh there are plenty of people around here with way too much time on their hands. Unfortunately they spend most of their days crafting Hardly Boys narratives about random users they pick out of a hat to scrutinize in order to rank up their scambuster count like they are playing Frogger while there are plenty of known cons to go after.

Why respond to the litany of other very valid points when you can simply resort to your usual gatekeeper status and point your finger back at me. After all, all you have to do is keep supporting each other in your pattern of abuse and you will never have any accountability of your own, and you can happily repeatedly vomit up this same stale narrative that I am motivated only by being on the default trust and not your abuse of it.

If all I wanted was to be on the default trust, I would just get down on my knees and take my turn sucking the DT cartel off like the rest of you do to keep your positions instead of calling out the systemic abusive behavior of those who happen to be keeping myself and others who call you out, off of it. Funny how the narrative you want to sell is that all I want is to be on default trust, yet I make it my mission to consistently bring attention to the abusive community corroding behavior of the exact people coordinating to keep me off of it by calling out your punitive and arbitrary gatekeeping behavior.

Of course it wouldn't matter if I did just go away quietly and mind my own business, there is no path to redemption with you people. As a result I have zero motivation to give you all even a modicum of respect or cooperation, and certainly no motivation to tread lightly. I most certainly do deserve to be on the default trust, far more than most of you do for steamrolling over a bunch of random users, scammers and innocent users alike to maintain and elevate your own personal positions. Funny how the default trust never seems to have any criticism of the other default trust members unless they have enough of a group to push them out completely... almost as if all you care about is being on the default trust.

I never should have been removed from it the first time, but I would rather have the freedom to call out the malignant behavior of those on it than keeping silent by filling my mouth with the dicks of your fellow cartel members. You all have repeatedly demonstrated you collectively use your positions on the default trust as a tool to silence your critics, and anyone who dares to support them over and over again ensuring you send a message to any other would be complainants that they better keep their mouths shut or you'll end up like Tecshare, who we will forever coordinate to keep off of the default trust because... reasons. Do you care to actually respond to any of the completely valid points I made or are you just going to try to turn this into the usual personal snipe fest circus as is SOP? Right, you can't argue the points, because your position is indefensible, so you must resort to character attacks as always. Keep on slurping, you missed a drop.

This. Just watch him like a hawk and report every infraction you can think of. Don't make shit up and spam reports of course, but if everyone is up his ass with every mistake he makes, this will at least follow precedent of a justified ban even if it is not directly for trolling.

I don't have to trust him to know this is a counterproductive use of the trust system. Just as I would defend a Nazi's right to free speech, not because I agree with them, but because I understand protecting the institutional standard of free speech is more important than silencing a few loons who will discredit themselves by speaking anyway, I don't have to endorse users I am defending from trust system abuse. Guilty until proven innocent is not an acceptable standard.

As I just got done saying which you promptly ignored...


Well you and Bob123 are skeptical, I am very proud of you. Unfortunately that literally means nothing. See you say there are all kinds of lies and misinformation, but it simply is once again just your subjective interpretation at best, and disingenuous exaggeration to justify your overreach at worst. I simply haven't seen these claims substantiated regardless of how much skepticism you collectively have and how many times you insist he was lying. I am sorry, but your beliefs are not an appropriate standard to trash some ones reputation here. Neither is you not liking the way he talked to you. After all, why would anyone react negatively to a whole team of busybodies getting all up in their shit and demanding they prove their legitimacy simply just because you demand it and have the authority to punish them if they don't? It is not like Bitcoin attracts libertarian types who would object to such an arbitrary invasive standard now is it?

You aren't put on the default trust to be a gatekeeper and judge who is fit to have that chance. The trust system is there to warn users about users with SOLID OBJECTIVE FACTS indicating fraud, not your hunch. I know you all want to think of yourselves as super BitCops protecting the forum from evil doers with your cute little capes blowing in the wind as you rank up your reputation and notch down scams busted as you rank up like it is a video game, but literally all you are doing is driving out good users. You aren't stopping shit, at best you are delaying it, and at significant externalized cost to the community. I don't care how skeptical you are, you will NEVER, EVER prevent all instances of fraud, and even if you do some times, they will simply return seconds later with a new account and a revised attack plan while the legitimate users you burn with no repercussions to yourself will leave to never return at best, or say fuck this community for robbing me of my hard earned reputation and start robbing people because the system is only imposed upon them and not used to protect them at worst.

Your feelings of guilt over such a situation is a you problem. Stop offloading your own complexes on the general user base, because all you are telling me is you would rather burn random legitimate users mistakenly as it results in no personal costs over maybe possibly temporarily stopping scammers some times based on your skepticism alone. No, you didn't just express your opinion, you invoked your exceptional authority under the default trust to preemptively punish this user for your skepticism using flags and trust ratings. If this was just a thread discussing the issue I certainly wouldn't give a flying fuck, but that's not what this is. This is a mob chanting burn the witch and setting the pyre. In the end yes it does matter, just not to you, because you pay zero costs when your little inquisition mobs burn legitimate users, and who would even call you out on it even if you did right? No one wants to risk being next on the inquisition list risking their own hard earned reputations to challenge these cases with zero benefit to themselves now do they? Clearly what is important is you don't have to take a chance of feeling bad for other peoples lack of due diligence, even if doing so is a constant source of conflict, spite, and confusion that drives out good users right?

You and your new BitCop friends need to start observing a standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of local laws before evoking the trust system. Unfortunately you think mere subjective suspicion is a good enough standard in the absence of this, and not even solid observable facts. Of course you guys never get it wrong, right? Even if you do who cares? You pay no cost and have no responsibility for your mistakes by being overzealous now do you? Even if you do you have your new popular kids club to all stand around and reassure each other of how great you all are for stopping scams regardless if they were scams or not right? Everyone knows what is popular is never wrong, and you are all ready to stand around to give each other handies and make sure no one is punished for their overzealous mistakes as well as coordinate to ostracize and keep off of the default trust anyone who does call out these mistakes right? 9 out of 10 doctors agree Marlborough is great for your health after all...

Oh the projection from you is so tremendously sweet nutillduhhhhh. You really are clueless and just believe anything the media tells you with zero critical thought, and worse yet, even when they are objective, you selectively interpret and cherry pick only the parts you prefer to see like the intellectually lazy fat tub of lard you are scarfing up whatever carefully filtered shit biscuits the corporate media throws at you.

Let me spell it out for you low and slow so you can take it all in cupcake. Factions of the US intelligence networks organized a regime change in Ukraine in order to put pressure on Russia. This man was part of the spearhead to overthrow their own leader to make way for a puppet of their own choosing. This doesn't necessarily make Viktor Yanukovych honest or exclude the possibility of his own corruption, but the point is the so called revolution was actually an organized coup perpetrated by factions within the US. One man's treason is another man's political prisoner depending on what narrative you are looking to sell, and the corporate establishment media is certainly trying to sell whatever the US intelligence networks tell them to.

Now that the administration responsible for organizing this coup are out of power, and the Ukrainian people have had a chance to put in some one based on their own determinations after a short puppet show along with a lot of conflict and violence, the people responsible for perpetrating this crime are looking to cover their asses at all costs. Of course he would downplay Biden's role, because he was directly involved in this coup. Now that Trump is starting to expose these crimes, everyone including Biden are running around with their asses on fire looking to run damage control and deflect attention away from the real story. Interestingly enough, the coup in Ukraine has a lot of direct connections with the coup that took place here in the USA. As a result anyone being held responsible in either country will expose the other party's involvement. Remember Crowdstrike? Of course you don't, Rachel Maddow and Stephen Colbert didn't instruct you to think about it. Well get back to that later. Did you ever wonder why Trump brought up that name in his call with the Ukrainian president? Because this was a deliberate trap set for the heads of this criminal organization that currently maintain control of the democrat party and to a significant but notably lesser extent the GOP.

Remember how the whole Russia collusion narrative started and got kicked into high gear? It was with the murder of Seth Rich. In order for the parties responsible for murdering him to deflect attention away from him and the evidence he presented and towards Trump, they claimed the files that were actually leaked by Seth Rich were hacked by the Russians. Strangely enough the FBI was never actually given access to the DNC servers, instead they were examined by a 3rd party private cybersecurity firm who claimed it was the Russians. Do you know who that company was? That's right, CrowdStrike.

So as you can see Donny, you're out of your element. You weren't even paying attention to dude's story. You just strolled in at the last second and think you know everything. You don't know shit. Regarding Trumps supposed impeachment, it is the greatest gift the Democrat party could have given to Trump virtually assuring his reelection for four more years. I am not mad at all, I am ecstatic that they made that critical tactical error and furthermore this corruption is finally coming to light among the general population. No one is rallying around Biden, Biden is radioactive and his career is over. He will be lucky to spend the rest of his life in Guantanamo bay when this is all over. You know who everyone is rallying around? Trump, and we have people like you mindlessly vomiting up these half backed Saul Alinsky style projections to thank for it.

So thank you Nutilduhh. Thank you for doing your part to help America as well as Ukraine wrestle back control of their governments from these brutal international cartels.