yessss a block.
I have a question...
i'm not in a hurry to be paid...it is just to know:
I earn only dust with my U2
I have now accumulated 15000 satoshi.
When in average do you send to "little miners" their earnings?
Thanks.
None yet. As I answered you 5 days ago ... ... ...  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13242672#msg13242672But as I mentioned in that reply, I have worked out a tidy way to do part of that recently. I can on request as long as I don't get a flood of requests for tiny payouts since it's very much a manual process until I get to doing the second part as I mentioned in that link. I'll limit it to 0.01 or more though for now since it will be completely manual and 0.01 is only a few dollars of BTC so at the moment no one's gonna starve to death coz they can't get a payout smaller than 0.01  The minimum I'll (initially) set it to once I have automated most of that process will probably also be around 0.01 to 0.001 anyway. (certainly no lower than 0.001 initially) Edit: but yeah I did say at that link ... One day - in a galaxy far far away  - dust will be distributed. ... But yeah that's one of the 2 parts to being able to pay dust totals. ... though still not sure when I'll get the other half done of actually accounting in ckdb the outstanding balances. Ok thanks... it's a little bit clearer thant the "One day - in a galaxy far far away" the problem is that to reach 0.001 BTC with my U2 I need at least 200 days...and 0.01 BTc i nead 2000 days... And so far I have not found "cominers" ...to down this duration (lol) Well maybe once every few months - in that galaxy far far away - after I've automated it, I might get generous and payout a few people who are wasting their time mining with low GHs Edit: but it'll have to be above whatever the dust limit is in btcd at the time, since if you have an output lower than that dust limit, that means you need to pay more fees than the dust ... which is pointless I have not yet understood the story about fees...it depends on so much things i believe... and if a day you send me something...it goes to xapo...there i have "no fees" Any way...what I mine is not for me but for many investors who have believed in me (lol) In a nutshell. It cost a minimum of BTC to send a tx, no matter how much little BTC it is. From there you can simply deduct what its going to cost from what you want to send. There is no point to send the TX if its going to cost more to send it than what you have. There is also no point in mining if all you're collecting is dust. What is a few cents going to change? Better sell the obsolete miner itself, you will make millions time more back. |
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Actually, you can't buy them from a reseller for the same price because the reseller buys them from me for the same price and then has to mark them up. We did a no-bulk-discounts sales on this run, which I do like the fairness of that policy (everyone, no matter the quantity, got the same lowest price we could feasibly offer) but in the end there's a heck of a lot more hassle with 20 people buying 50 sticks total than with one guy buying 20 sticks. The reseller has to deal with the 20 people buying his stock, but I don't have to, so after BM1384 Compacs I'll probably shift back to tier pricing so I get a bit more for the trouble of single-stick orders and give it back to the resellers who themselves have the trouble of single-stick orders as well. Kind of a load-balancing strategy, you understand. The effect on the end customer is not substantial whether they buy straight from me or from CrazyGuy or whatever, but it helps out CrazyGuy or whatever who are taking a heck of a lot of load off me in getting our stuff in the hands of customers. So if I can adjust things to maintain fairness to the end customer while helping out the folks who make my job easier, I will. But that won't affect pricing on the rest of BM1384 Compacs.
I might have enough bulk sales lined up to start a second batch, but I need everything to be confirmed and coordinated before announcing anything.
I think he meant instead of buying 10, he can buy 7 for the same price (of 10). As in, he does not have to go through you to spend his "allowance". Weird formulation, but thats how i read it yesterday. It kind of bothers me seeing people selling the sticks for 50$(+shipping) though, feel ripoff. |
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Except that the 10 1600w PSU. are Serevr style hot pluggable and are built into the unit.
Rich
Thanks Rich. I should have took a look for myself at their website. However, I really don't care for SPT anymore unless they change their ways. Were lucky that I don't think they have chips yet. If they did imagine how fast they could make difficulty go up (added onto high already). The SP50 is just scary specs with all that. The good news is it might be slow on making they don't seem to be selling them to many, I think anyone getting one currently is under NDA or they don't have any sold. So I'm guessing NDA. Dunno, maybe they ARE the reason why the difficulty went super up. Maybe they shipped 100's of units to a private data center. Its not like it would take a lot of these, when 10 of these do over 1PH/s. well diff increased by a lot more than 1 peta, it was 10%+ more which mean 70 peta, i doubt a bunch of new asic can do this, more likely is a combination of many things Point is, just a small MOQ of 50 for SP50 is over 5 PH/s. Now for a sizeable batch for a data center, we're looking at 100 PH/s, which is very much capable of singlehandly raising the diff by double digits by itself for a round or two. (There's bunch few mW Bitcoin mines already) We're looking at 80PH/s per mere mW, now and thats still pretty small when we have the main companies onlining/working on 10-30mW datacenter. From there, simple math: a single 10mW datacenter filled with current/prototype gen miners would be more by itself than the current network. |
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Here's something to get out of the way right away;
1. Hash Rate: 4.73 TH/s ±5%
2. Power Consumption: 1293W
3. Power Efficiency: 0.25 J/GH
1293/4730 = 0.27~ Efficiency. So it is 0.25 efficient or not. It says +10% at the wall, as if you have to add it to the 1293W, then that would be even less efficient. So what is the truth?
They do give it a percentage where at the wall it is higher like you mentioned. 1. Hash Rate: 4.73 TH/s ±5% 2. Power Consumption: 1293W + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp) 3. Power Efficiency: 0.25 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp) I will send them a email to verify if it is closer to .27 on actual at wall. (It's weekend in China I might not have a instant anwser). Don't bother, they aren't to be trusted. We need to measure these things our selves. I'll eventually get around to measuring DC and AC on my B8 and post results. I should get an official anwser in email, but I expect it to be during the business week most likely. But your input is very much appreciated if you do measure it and post your results in thread. Bah, why not check with a wattmeter what the draw at the wall is for Batch 8? For example the S5 says 0.51J/W, and i get 0.49J/W actual. If for the S7, its 0.27J actual at the wall, then its not 0.25J efficiency at all. If you add a 10% to that, you're almost at 0.3J/W efficiency. Either way it sound like its not 0.25J anymore, since the first few batches which actually were. For previous batches people reported that this time around (For the S7 overall), the efficiency rating listed was DC, not actual consumption. And that J/GH has been getting worse as later batches came to be. |
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Here's something to get out of the way right away;
1. Hash Rate: 4.73 TH/s ±5%
2. Power Consumption: 1293W
3. Power Efficiency: 0.25 J/GH
1293/4730 = 0.27~ Efficiency. So it is 0.25 efficient or not. It says +10% at the wall, as if you have to add it to the 1293W, then that would be even less efficient. So what is the truth?
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What is considered to be an "acceptable" HW error rate?
Whatever floats your boat. I get one in 10 000, because i more or less did not wanted to raise the voltage by even a tiny bit for that. This stick can do 0HW~ easily, if you see frequent HW, then raising the voltage would fix it, but its not necessarily worthwhile to raise voltage over negligible HW rate, depending on how you look at it. |
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You do vanity "mining" with a GPU. If you have an ASIC, you could put the income generated as bounty, but i think that Avalon is quite obsolete, so you might as well just give the vanity gen a try with whatever you have on your PC.
Thanks for reply. I've already tried to do with my GPU but it is no so fast.... So, if I buy it, I can't use with vanitygen? And with oclvanitygen? Is compatible? You need compare GPU's here is a list: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Vanitygen But basically the newer and better... the faster (not always there are some other things). But new and fast GPU normally will be faster. A big thing is how long of vanity address your "mining". Depending on length and if exact it could be a very long time, or very short time. Best bet is selling the obsolete miner, then using the BTC to put up a bounty to get the vanity address. Afaik you can't roll priv keys with ASIC, but maybe someone figured out a way to do it, if its even possible. It was not when i tried it though and if it is, it should say it does in the readme, however google says nope. I know there are some that have said a safe way to buy vanity gen from a site that had a pool running "mining" BTC addresses. I really don't like idea of others being any part of my private key. I would make it myself or not have it. But I'm to safe most likely. Bah unless you do it like how you would setup a cold wallet on an offline computer, i'm not sure how it could be secure in the first place. Vanity address are more for show than for normal use. Maybe its just me, but otherwise you can never be sure the privkey was never exposed. |
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You do vanity "mining" with a GPU. If you have an ASIC, you could put the income generated as bounty, but i think that Avalon is quite obsolete, so you might as well just give the vanity gen a try with whatever you have on your PC.
Thanks for reply. I've already tried to do with my GPU but it is no so fast.... So, if I buy it, I can't use with vanitygen? And with oclvanitygen? Is compatible? You need compare GPU's here is a list: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Vanitygen But basically the newer and better... the faster (not always there are some other things). But new and fast GPU normally will be faster. A big thing is how long of vanity address your "mining". Depending on length and if exact it could be a very long time, or very short time. Best bet is selling the obsolete miner, then using the BTC to put up a bounty to get the vanity address. Afaik you can't roll priv keys with ASIC, but maybe someone figured out a way to do it, if its even possible. It was not when i tried it though and if it is, it should say it does in the readme, however google says nope. |
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Yep you might have to drop down the frequency or reboot a few times. Unfortunately on occasion the S5s can get a finicky blade. We'll see what you find !
On the occasion it does get a finicky blade, is there anyway it can be service or a means of replacing it? You can simply find someone with a good blade to sell it to you, and you just swap it out. But this 1 blade dropping thing happen a lot, to all of my S5 and mostly stopped happening since i updated all the firmware. It does still happen but it is picked back up after a minute, so overall only a couple GH/s average is lost. |
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Hello
I am going to begin mining bitcoins.
I made a Blockchain account and downloaded GUIMiner.
But it asks for an user name and password.
Where do i get it.
And also what pool is recommended for beginners.
What type of hardware are you going to be mining with? With just cpu and or video card or did you actually buy a u3 or a larger asic miner? GUIMiner is too old, he will need CGMiner or BFGMiner. There's nothing he can do with GUIMiner. He did not mention any ASIC, so i'm guessing he is trying to mine with his PC' which is pretty much impossible to do nowadays, which is why up to date miners don't even support it. |
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I have come into the acquisition of an Antminer S7 and *gulp* upon the advice of Amazon, purchased a AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series 1600W Power Supply http://www.amazon.com/AntMiner-APW3-12-1600-Series-Supply-Bitcoin/dp/B013WW2YWE/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1CHAC9KDBAPSSKG302CFEverything seemed well and good when I plugged the power supply into the socket. The fan churned on and everything sounded normal, but the S7 itself was deader than a door nail. I checked the amps and moved to a 15amp socket with no positive effect either. I even tried to power my Antminer S5 to no avail. PICTURESAnd there were these two plugs that confused since one of them had what looked like a feedback connector while the other one did not. So, is the writing on the wall and I messed up in getting the right Power Supply for the S7, or am I missing a step? My bitcoin comrade thought it was strange that the plug input is the same as many devices used today in computers and PSU even though he doesn't think that kind of cord would work on a 264VAC. So you're saying the PSU turn on. Did you check the output to see if its supplying 12v? Also, that is pretty odd that you could not power the S5 either. The last guy that could not start his S7 did not plug the 10th connector into the S7 controller, but the S5 does not have that. Anyways check the PSU's output to see whats it at when you turn it on. |
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So i'm messing some more with the API stuff. Coinmine ( https://www2.coinmine.pl/) is powered by MPOS so i would of thought using the MPOS pool option would work for it, but it does not. Do i have the wrong url somehow or is the API perhaps still different? I could give you an active API for it if you want to compare/interested in checking it out in the first place. |
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Hmm, pools eh, what pools you run them on? Have you tried GHash.io? For some reason Tubes work best with ghash. Give that pool a try for a bit and see if they are stable.
So, they have not crashed once since then. I am pretty disappointed, even though not having to restart them at random is also a relief. I guess the miners are not in such a bad shape after all, but i'd really rather have a miner that can mine where i want it to mine. What a bother. Thus i decided to leave this thread open to see if i can get some more offers for these, if not i'll just let this thread die. I think the only problem was the pool. I know someone who had similar problems and his tubes only work on ghash.io. Kinda weird but yeah I believe you found the source of your problem. Pretty much. Lately it seem that -ck coded in a extranonce proxy for Kano.is (for tubes), so that is much better imo than mining at GHash.io. So if some people show up here looking for a solution, we can now point them at a (imo better) alternative; I don't know if this is a permanent socket but this is it; URL: nonce.kano.is port: 27181 Your .workername will be stripped. |
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Except that the 10 1600w PSU. are Serevr style hot pluggable and are built into the unit.
Rich
Thanks Rich. I should have took a look for myself at their website. However, I really don't care for SPT anymore unless they change their ways. Were lucky that I don't think they have chips yet. If they did imagine how fast they could make difficulty go up (added onto high already). The SP50 is just scary specs with all that. The good news is it might be slow on making they don't seem to be selling them to many, I think anyone getting one currently is under NDA or they don't have any sold. So I'm guessing NDA. Dunno, maybe they ARE the reason why the difficulty went super up. Maybe they shipped 100's of units to a private data center. Its not like it would take a lot of these, when 10 of these do over 1PH/s. |
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I opened a ticked on their site and i asked them to send me invoice that is calculated in USD. I hope they will respond early because the expected arrival is on 21.12.2015
Well i'm not sure it matters. At least here, it does not matter what i show them at reception. If the amount is wrong, you need to fill a form and mail it to a sub section that deal specifically with this. And only then if you have enough proof, will they refund the difference. |
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No Invoices. Marked, Bitcoin Miner on the UPS Tracking info or customs though. UGH.
So how do you declare the value of the miners? When they call me and ask for the invoice what should i do? You can print the digital invoice you get. If they did not email you a copy (i just don't remember), then you can see your invoice on your profile, on the website. Then click Orders, then find the relevant order and click view. Print. Then maybe use an highlighting marker for the relevant portion (example); Total [Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7 × 1 391 USD ( 1.396 BTC ) Shit there is no USD on total, can they correct this? for the psus i have this Product Total APW3-12-1600-B2 × 2 280 USD ( 0.667 BTC ) Coupon Shipping Fedex 0.185 BTC Order Total: 0.852 BTC and for the s7 Product Total ANTMINER S7 BATCH 8 × 2 6.2 BTC Coupon Shipping Fedex 0.269 BTC Order Total: 6.469 BTC I dont have a USD value on my grand total, either. Maybe the 280 USD ( 0.667 BTC ) can be used as the exchange rate and do the math for the grand total..? |
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Hi everyone, if i buy avalon nano 3 is compatible with Vanitygen 0.22 (on windows)? I would try to generate a bitcoin vanity address... Thanks in advance You do vanity "mining" with a GPU. If you have an ASIC, you could put the income generated as bounty, but i think that Avalon is quite obsolete, so you might as well just give the vanity gen a try with whatever you have on your PC. |
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Twister bearing, aka "rifle" "hydro" etc is nothing more than a fancy sleeve bearing type.
I recommend AGAINST any version of a sleeve bearing on a fan.
Manufacturer MBF ratings from most fan makers tend to be wildly optimistic, assuming lab-level CLEAN AND COOL conditions among other things - ball bearing fans tend to be the ONLY ones that actually achieve their rated MBF in REAL WORLD usage, and even some of THOSE are rated somewhat optimistically.
That's one of the reasons "push" is almost always better than "pull" for cooling - the "pull" configuration runs the fan a lot hotter, making it a lot more likely to overheat and fail faster.
Thanks for your though, I'll take it in consideration when ill receive and test it. It should be fine, those fans apparently are easy to clean, which is where the real problem is for real world life time of the unit. (The item description mention that the fan is easily detachable for cleaning) Its like those GPU fans i have on my 280x, i just pop them off, clean them with a qtip, at a speckle of lubricant and they run like knew for another 6 months. (And again, 3 times now) |
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No Invoices. Marked, Bitcoin Miner on the UPS Tracking info or customs though. UGH.
So how do you declare the value of the miners? When they call me and ask for the invoice what should i do? You can print the digital invoice you get. If they did not email you a copy (i just don't remember), then you can see your invoice on your profile, on the website. Then click Orders, then find the relevant order and click view. Print. Then maybe use an highlighting marker for the relevant portion (example); Total [Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7 × 1 391 USD ( 1.396 BTC ) |
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You could always mine some low diff altcoin with the s1, and hope the price jumps in the future. Other than that....what if btc price goes up ? then your small amounts of btc are worth something....so dont mine at a loss, but why not if the profit is small ? Also, you may consider to mine solo (solo ckpool for example) and have a little lottery thing going on. I sold all my old miners, but I did keep a usb block eruptor for posterity.
My S1 still generate 0.027 BTC per month, its above what i could call a "small amounts of btc", that would be dust for me, like what a old usb miner would do. I find it pretty reasonable and them being completely silent is really nice, imo. I can undervolt them to get them to about 1W/GH and run them without a fan. Nice quiet heater and with the profitability so high right now, they're even profitable BEFORE taking into account money "saved" by using them as a heat source for winter. So to recycle the past, i'd say its just about getting them to the right home. |
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