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again why did the OP highlight one thing in big bold letters? because no premine is one of the few things this coin has going for it.
if a coin has value plenty will work for it for free. likely if you have to pay a programmer 1) the selling of said coins automatic downward spiral on price 2) such programmers are unlikely to stay if the going gets tough.
you do realise also reviving with premine will get it delisted from its current exchange.
and again settle on acting like i'm the enemy, when i'd like to see the coin succeed. i just don't think you guys have thought out your plans that well.
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when from the right chain i've done test sends, they've got to bittrex but not cryptopia, so i think maybe dev contact cryptopia?
Bittrex? I think you mean C-Cex? And we've already contacted Cryptopia and SafeCex, but I'll contact them again. sorry trading on too many exchanges meant c-cex is fine. |
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when from the right chain i've done test sends, they've got to c-cex but not cryptopia, so i think maybe dev contact cryptopia?
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Oooh <3 Much kudos for reviving this coin. I used to solomine it for almost a month a year ago, with interesting profits.
Too bad most of the coin distribution has already happened, and as such, it's in the hands of an elite few. Maybe a total refresh could help mitigate this?
And by this, I mean a totally new crypto, with the same name and community, but from block 0 again, and freshened up to today's standards.
Blockchain loading is horribly slow, which was is expected with a quark based algo. Anime-quark is far from CPU-only, I can mine it easily on my cudaminers.
Maybe adding PoS too would be a good idea. A much longer and more stable PoW period would also be advisable to keep the coin alive.
I understand some people would feel cheated on if they have a large supply of AnimeCoin, but you could import the old priv keys into the new network and reward everyone who had an active address (like they did with CLAMs).
Or a 1-on-1 exchange, funded with a premine. The total supply should be a lot higher then though.
I thought of something similar to what you're saying, but I didn't say anything about this because I didn't want create division among the Animecoin community however I think that is the right time to talk about this matter. The no premine philosophy is a good thing for the short term because to the eyes of the public it means that the people behind a coin are working with good faith, however for the long term the no premine coins have proven to be ineffective (most of them are dead) because the people working on those coins are not gaining anything at all, and in this world everyone has bills to pay. Animecoin has around 2 billion coins, and to go from 1 to 2000 satoshis with that amount of coins without resources would be like passing through hell to accomplish it, but if we're controlling the coins we can place Animecoin at 2000 or more easily. We having 2 billion or more and selling them at 2000+ will rank us as one of the top 25 coins at coinmarketcap (out of almost 1000 coins out there), that will bring more attention towards us, and it will make Animecoin way more easier to advertise to the public. How much do we need to premine? I'd say 100% What's the purpose of all this Have funds to develop Animecoin Have funds to pay a salary to the development team members Have funds to advertise Animecoin Have funds to make partnerships with websites that support Anime Have funds to make partnerships with online stores so they can accept Animecoin Have funds to hire artists from deviant and other places Have funds to hire android and IOS developers Have funds to make deals with game developers to integrate Animecoin in their games And have funds to create and do much more. The people who have a massive amount of coins might not like this, but I kind of have a work around for this, when I first saw Animecoin at cryptorush back in 2014, I saw it with the price ranging from 4 to 10 satoshis, let's say that we pick a number between these two, that can be the amount that we will be paying you for your coins in bitcoin, not right now but after we are able to accumulate a decent amount of BTC, we will pay in installments. (This is only for the people who are not part of the development because the people in the team will have a salary). People will be able to mine ANI through a multipool. If we get to do this, we'll pick the greenest and most secure algorithm, we'll pick the best algorithm for our coin there is out there. Please leave your thoughts on this matter!
disagree with this totally, any revive with swap with premine, would kill this, one of the biggest things going for this coin is zero premine. as for Bombadil "Too bad most of the coin distribution has already happened, and as such, it's in the hands of an elite few" you've lost be here. if there is any big hands for buying up at a low, or mining at low dif, well thats people willing to take the risk, so thats nothing unfair by any mean. A small premine for dev funds is talking sense - most of the successful coins out there are successful because they have funding for dev work. unfortunately this destroys the entire point of having cryptocurrencies developed. crypto well p2p (before even cryptos) where envisaged to take the money changes out of the equations. problem being with fiat and the like the money creators taking their cut. tons of non premine coins doing perfectly well (well comparative) without the need for anyone to 'invest' in a premine. infact this proposal is taking a perfectly good coin and turning it into what many purest regard a scamcoin. ironically the new dev that proposes "How much do we need to premine? I'd say 100%" earlier has highlighted only one point in the OP  (and for good reason that one highlighted point is the best thing this coin has going for it). It doesn't destroy any point - nobody does work for free. The coin is stagnant BECAUSE it has no funds to pay any devs, or do anything else. You said earlier people who took risk deserve to get paid - you saying people who do work don't? i think you don't understand the whole point behind cryptocurrency movement, again yes this is lost on most the ROI, cryptos to make the devs fiat crowd which plagues crypto. Crypto under p2p currencies is designed too take the money changes out of the equation, full stop thats its modus operandi., anything outside this is pretty much a pyramid scheme or no use to anyone as an alternative to fiat. now what you guys are planing on doing is taking a perfectly good no premine coin, with a half decent theme that something could be made from, and turning it into a premine shitcoin like 1001 other shitcoins. where have you been hinding opensource people work for free all the time, rewards comes from creating something of value and not by simply scamming people out of btc/fiat. and i didn't say early people who took the risk deserve to get paid, i said people who bought in or mined while the thing was close to valueless deserve to keep the coins they mined or purchased, which anyone else at that time could have freely done, was no barrier for anyone to do this, and for the record i only have about 100k ani so i'm not really one of the large holders. |
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i update link in the op thanks now all the coins i sent are missing in the ether lol, transactions are greyed out like they now never happen, but coins not returned to balance or showed up at the place sent (checkwallet says its fine). |
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Oooh <3 Much kudos for reviving this coin. I used to solomine it for almost a month a year ago, with interesting profits.
Too bad most of the coin distribution has already happened, and as such, it's in the hands of an elite few. Maybe a total refresh could help mitigate this?
And by this, I mean a totally new crypto, with the same name and community, but from block 0 again, and freshened up to today's standards.
Blockchain loading is horribly slow, which was is expected with a quark based algo. Anime-quark is far from CPU-only, I can mine it easily on my cudaminers.
Maybe adding PoS too would be a good idea. A much longer and more stable PoW period would also be advisable to keep the coin alive.
I understand some people would feel cheated on if they have a large supply of AnimeCoin, but you could import the old priv keys into the new network and reward everyone who had an active address (like they did with CLAMs).
Or a 1-on-1 exchange, funded with a premine. The total supply should be a lot higher then though.
I thought of something similar to what you're saying, but I didn't say anything about this because I didn't want create division among the Animecoin community however I think that is the right time to talk about this matter. The no premine philosophy is a good thing for the short term because to the eyes of the public it means that the people behind a coin are working with good faith, however for the long term the no premine coins have proven to be ineffective (most of them are dead) because the people working on those coins are not gaining anything at all, and in this world everyone has bills to pay. Animecoin has around 2 billion coins, and to go from 1 to 2000 satoshis with that amount of coins without resources would be like passing through hell to accomplish it, but if we're controlling the coins we can place Animecoin at 2000 or more easily. We having 2 billion or more and selling them at 2000+ will rank us as one of the top 25 coins at coinmarketcap (out of almost 1000 coins out there), that will bring more attention towards us, and it will make Animecoin way more easier to advertise to the public. How much do we need to premine? I'd say 100% What's the purpose of all this Have funds to develop Animecoin Have funds to pay a salary to the development team members Have funds to advertise Animecoin Have funds to make partnerships with websites that support Anime Have funds to make partnerships with online stores so they can accept Animecoin Have funds to hire artists from deviant and other places Have funds to hire android and IOS developers Have funds to make deals with game developers to integrate Animecoin in their games And have funds to create and do much more. The people who have a massive amount of coins might not like this, but I kind of have a work around for this, when I first saw Animecoin at cryptorush back in 2014, I saw it with the price ranging from 4 to 10 satoshis, let's say that we pick a number between these two, that can be the amount that we will be paying you for your coins in bitcoin, not right now but after we are able to accumulate a decent amount of BTC, we will pay in installments. (This is only for the people who are not part of the development because the people in the team will have a salary). People will be able to mine ANI through a multipool. If we get to do this, we'll pick the greenest and most secure algorithm, we'll pick the best algorithm for our coin there is out there. Please leave your thoughts on this matter!
disagree with this totally, any revive with swap with premine, would kill this, one of the biggest things going for this coin is zero premine. as for Bombadil "Too bad most of the coin distribution has already happened, and as such, it's in the hands of an elite few" you've lost be here. if there is any big hands for buying up at a low, or mining at low dif, well thats people willing to take the risk, so thats nothing unfair by any mean. A small premine for dev funds is talking sense - most of the successful coins out there are successful because they have funding for dev work. unfortunately this destroys the entire point of having cryptocurrencies developed. crypto well p2p (before even cryptos) where envisaged to take the money changes out of the equations. problem being with fiat and the like the money creators taking their cut. tons of non premine coins doing perfectly well (well comparative) without the need for anyone to 'invest' in a premine. infact this proposal is taking a perfectly good coin and turning it into what many purest regard a scamcoin. ironically the new dev that proposes "How much do we need to premine? I'd say 100%" earlier has highlighted only one point in the OP (and for good reason that one highlighted point is the best thing this coin has going for it). |
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Oooh <3 Much kudos for reviving this coin. I used to solomine it for almost a month a year ago, with interesting profits.
Too bad most of the coin distribution has already happened, and as such, it's in the hands of an elite few. Maybe a total refresh could help mitigate this?
And by this, I mean a totally new crypto, with the same name and community, but from block 0 again, and freshened up to today's standards.
Blockchain loading is horribly slow, which was is expected with a quark based algo. Anime-quark is far from CPU-only, I can mine it easily on my cudaminers.
Maybe adding PoS too would be a good idea. A much longer and more stable PoW period would also be advisable to keep the coin alive.
I understand some people would feel cheated on if they have a large supply of AnimeCoin, but you could import the old priv keys into the new network and reward everyone who had an active address (like they did with CLAMs).
Or a 1-on-1 exchange, funded with a premine. The total supply should be a lot higher then though.
I thought of something similar to what you're saying, but I didn't say anything about this because I didn't want create division among the Animecoin community however I think that is the right time to talk about this matter. The no premine philosophy is a good thing for the short term because to the eyes of the public it means that the people behind a coin are working with good faith, however for the long term the no premine coins have proven to be ineffective (most of them are dead) because the people working on those coins are not gaining anything at all, and in this world everyone has bills to pay. Animecoin has around 2 billion coins, and to go from 1 to 2000 satoshis with that amount of coins without resources would be like passing through hell to accomplish it, but if we're controlling the coins we can place Animecoin at 2000 or more easily. We having 2 billion or more and selling them at 2000+ will rank us as one of the top 25 coins at coinmarketcap (out of almost 1000 coins out there), that will bring more attention towards us, and it will make Animecoin way more easier to advertise to the public. How much do we need to premine? I'd say 100% What's the purpose of all this Have funds to develop Animecoin Have funds to pay a salary to the development team members Have funds to advertise Animecoin Have funds to make partnerships with websites that support Anime Have funds to make partnerships with online stores so they can accept Animecoin Have funds to hire artists from deviant and other places Have funds to hire android and IOS developers Have funds to make deals with game developers to integrate Animecoin in their games And have funds to create and do much more. The people who have a massive amount of coins might not like this, but I kind of have a work around for this, when I first saw Animecoin at cryptorush back in 2014, I saw it with the price ranging from 4 to 10 satoshis, let's say that we pick a number between these two, that can be the amount that we will be paying you for your coins in bitcoin, not right now but after we are able to accumulate a decent amount of BTC, we will pay in installments. (This is only for the people who are not part of the development because the people in the team will have a salary). People will be able to mine ANI through a multipool. If we get to do this, we'll pick the greenest and most secure algorithm, we'll pick the best algorithm for our coin there is out there. Please leave your thoughts on this matter!
disagree with this totally, any revive with swap with premine, would kill this, one of the biggest things going for this coin is zero premine. as for Bombadil "Too bad most of the coin distribution has already happened, and as such, it's in the hands of an elite few" you've lost be here. if there is any big hands for buying up at a low, or mining at low dif, well thats people willing to take the risk, so thats nothing unfair by any mean. |
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tbh (just by word of mouth) i think most users wanted pos, not evenin myself being a fan of pos, but it seems thats the most asked questions in chats etc; "when is 020 going pos" |
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People buying and/or promoting Ether over Litecoin have very, very tiny brains.
I am not sold on Ether, but why litecoin? It really offers very little that bitcoin doesn't, the new Alts, or even the old ones like Primecoin or Peercoin, are/were innovative. If someone released litecoin in 2014 or 2015, it would just be another crappy alt, but as it is older it has some respect from many of the community. I just don't see why! litecoin was designed by coblee to not make the mistakes of all the previous alts, being an alt created not to make the devs money (without that cryptos are no better then greedy banker controlled fiat). trust is crucial in any currency and few could argue litecoin as being the cleanest alt currency yet. |
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i don't know whether to laugh or cry at this ann, or just stock up on popcorn  |
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pos would take the last of the dignity away from this coin, but as i'm not a fan i'd say go for it |
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incakoin this coin has history as incakoin, pretty much the only thing going for it, rebranding is silly, enough alt coins already why even start a new one keep to incakoin and simply work on promoting it. |
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with the sheer amount of shills trying to have this pumped over so long, you can bet any profit takers will kill any pump ie do the math more people tying to make fiat out of this then interested in the actual crap.
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wouldn't take much of a search to find the comprehensive development plans for litecoin,
or take the low iq route and listen to the FUD on here by those multinickers trying to plug the latest 'innovation' to sell snake oil anon/country/originalcode/2.0 name your flavor shitcoin.
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There are many alt coins that have been premined to death. But what's everyones opinion on sligh premining to creator/devs?
the issue that seems to be lost on so many here, is premine defeats one main purposes of the push for a p2p currency in the first place i.e. taking the money changes out of the equation. |
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Having said that, philosophically I would wish for absolutely no regulation and let fools loose their money because they are fools. That should move the money to those who aren't fools and thus make the economy more productive.
big flaw in this is all those involved in ICOs are fools, so there is no redistribution of the money simply just fools passing it to fools. |
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again the point of p2p currency is to be indifferent to regulation and if where smart enough/dedicated enough we can make this happen, people are just too busy scrounging around for small bits of fiat to see the much larger picture.
P2P currency, exchanges and marketplaces are the way to avoid/bypass regulations. I think we need more effort on the marketplace part as I still cant buy two rolls and a pint of milk with BTC. Unfortunately bitcoin merchandise, precious metals and mining gears aren't edible  . i agree early days yet, and we have to focus on the right direction, i personally don't consider bitcoin all that useful as a proper p2p currency (its kinda the distraction). |
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When i started mid-2013 roughly i had that gut reaction too...
That's fine, but who will contribute to the regulation on behalf of this community? The Bitcoin Foundation could have been that, but the leadership were after the quick buck (and some of them were common criminals) so they lost their significance by now. Then who else? There are nobody who are accepted by this community and also taken seriously by the other side. So being a part of the regulation process is a dream what won't happen. BTW who are the other side? That side is also widely divided and there are very little cooperation between states and financial organizations. I believe you are too optimistic and we will end up with a lot of localized government imposed regulations and we will have to accept and live with that or fight a guerilla war for our money by moving it to the country what provides the best environment and the less disruptive regulations. again the point of p2p currency is to be indifferent to regulation and if where smart enough/dedicated enough we can make this happen, people are just too busy scrounging around for small bits of fiat to see the much larger picture. |
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If that's true then why are all the plebs trying to make a big deal out of crypto:banking relationships?
Regulation is not your enemy, even if the banks are
Regulation, banks, politicians and centralization are unfortunately coming in the same package. I few times I've pointed out how funny when alleged crypto fans are praising coins what made close relationships with banks. yep was once about an alternative to the greedy bankers, now many crypto dev teams are promoting themselves as making backends for the banks, ya just gotta laugh  |
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But we can make so much money if we invest in the right ico.
Look at eth.
whats the point of being an alternative to the greedy bankers of the world if we ourselves become the greedy bankers yes as you clearly point out most the members of this community aren't in it to create a p2p currency that has unlimited potential to change the world in a hugely positive way; but simple in it out of greed to get more old world fiat |
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