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1041  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Guide] Surviving the fork, or How to double your bitcoins (or save fiat) on: August 20, 2015, 10:25:13 AM
It won't work.

If XT is adopted, XT wins, there's no other chain, or at least there's no other chain with value.


XT win lose or draw will never have value, maybe price v USD but it'll never be anything of value.
1042  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Options for core people who consider core the real bitcoin? on: August 20, 2015, 10:22:15 AM
i believe supporters should keep the core going no matter what, if the imposter managers to fake majority node support, keep to the core, keep it functioning.

1043  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Options for core people who consider core the real bitcoin? on: August 20, 2015, 07:56:05 AM
what are the options? keep core alive no matter the outcome?
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does xt REALLY log your ip address? on: August 20, 2015, 02:03:13 AM
Another question; does your IP address really matter?

kinda my earlier point  Smiley

but this issue with it goes beyond just the ip login.

Hold on wait! It's around here somewhere...ahh. Found it. OK, I've got my tinfoil hat on - please enlighten us about how far it goes.


mike hearn was the third gunman on bambi's parents  Shocked
1045  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin: How to measure it? on: August 20, 2015, 02:00:54 AM
A wise man told me that to value your creation in terms of a corrupted man made system is foolish.
 
It would be better to price your asset in terms of something uncorrupted.

With that being said (as of this writing):

1/10 Oz American Gold Eagle Coin = ฿0.534684
1/4 Oz American Gold Eagle Coin = ฿1.310352
1/2 Oz American Gold Eagle Coin = ฿2.547269
1 Oz American Gold Eagle Coin = ฿4.970719

Gold shines and paper is dull.

To think of the price in terms of something that is dull is to think with the brain.

To think of the price in terms of something that shines is to think with the heart.

The goal is to go 1:1.

Remember this.



lol n u think the gold market aint corrupt lmao
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: GoldCoin™ (GLD) Thread - The Gold Standard of Digital Currency [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: August 20, 2015, 01:59:30 AM
btc38 aint a bad place to be as long as its not listed on the btc only market.
1047  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How about community takeover? on: August 20, 2015, 01:50:37 AM
There is very little incentive for developers with the right skill set to jump into this role.

well the ones that need incentives arent the ones you want for this kinda project  Cool
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does xt REALLY log your ip address? on: August 20, 2015, 01:46:59 AM
Another question; does your IP address really matter?

kinda my earlier point  Smiley

but this issue with it goes beyond just the ip login.
1049  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison on: August 20, 2015, 12:40:06 AM
Life in Prison as to being worse than death, it really depends on his mind set. On one hand, he's still alive, but not free. After a term of institutionalization, it becomes an everyday way of life

I'm sure you could get used to the routine after a while.

Wake up and eat then suck a few cocks.

Be bored your cage for a few hours.

Have lunch then suck a few cocks with a side of ass rape.

Go to the yard for a while and get the shit beat out of you then suck a few cocks.

Be bored in your cage a few hours.

Eat dinner then get raped in the shower.

Be bored in your cage for a few hours.

Cry yourself to sleep bleeding and sore.

Dream about killing yourself.



How is that any different than having to read bitcointalk?


i worry about who's teaching you to read  Shocked
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitcoinXT and You – What Every Bitcoin Holder Needs To Know on: August 20, 2015, 12:09:53 AM
hazard actually agree with your article mostly and thanks for painting a clear picture for the noobs.

(note though the satoshi email was most certainly a fake, hell same email few times around even tried to fake satoshi's sig so kinda dead giveaway).

for the record i'm very anti bitcoinxt, though i'm not a huge proponent of bitcoin itself just to be 100% honest, huge fan of a proper p2p currency just aint seen one todate.
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does xt REALLY log your ip address? on: August 20, 2015, 12:01:02 AM
i know this forum logs ur ip  Shocked

run run run the sky is falling


(if bitcoinxt gets up logged ip's will be the least of ur worries)
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Moving into LTC until XT issue is resolved? As a safe haven? on: August 19, 2015, 11:58:37 PM
Well LTC will never have to worry about increasing the block size since nobody uses it, so yeah it's a safe haven from any debate over the block size  Undecided

just more liquidity then all other alts put together and then some....so yeah nobody uses it  Roll Eyes
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Moving into LTC until XT issue is resolved? As a safe haven? on: August 19, 2015, 11:57:32 PM
I'm busy chucking all of my BTC stash (such as it is  Angry ) overboard.......if the current BTC vs XT debate was happening in any other crypto, we'd be predicting total disaster.
Just because it's BTC doesn't mean that it can't fail, or that it won't tank again in the short term.

Any way I look at it, right now my BTC are better off being NXT, LTC, ETH or even Bitmark......

 
IF BTC fails all crypto fails. Nobody is going to have faith in another alt if the first crypocurrency died. Best case would be a small niche of users but nothing even close to mainstream. Nobody is going to invest real money in crypto if BTC fails.


alt (to fiat) currency's  have failed long before btc come along, and btc still got running.

if btc failed yeah it'd be a big blow to p2p currencies, but people especially investors have short memories (otherwise the stockmarkets would never recover).
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Moving into LTC until XT issue is resolved? As a safe haven? on: August 19, 2015, 11:24:23 PM
Well congrats you are at a loss, cus the ltc/btc ratio went down.

who is?

whats intraday ratios in the grand scheme?, you could come in every 2 min and say, hey ur at a loss, wow u won etc.....lol the OP said go ltc til the XT blows over so i'd say the OP's talking mid to longish term.
1055  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Company plans to build $50 Billion supercomputer in NewMexico for Bitcoin mining on: August 19, 2015, 10:57:09 PM
Fuck them and the horse they rode in on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157231

another case of never letting the facts get in the way of a good story

bet this thread is continued on by noobs anyways  Lips sealed
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Moving into LTC until XT issue is resolved? As a safe haven? on: August 19, 2015, 02:46:57 PM
Just keep you're family in mind and don't invest more you can lose!

+1 (something all sides of every debate here should agree on).
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Moving into LTC until XT issue is resolved? As a safe haven? on: August 19, 2015, 02:33:10 PM
Litecoin is not a "haven" for anything.

If you want to get out of Bitcoin, buy dollars or euros.
Yeah what a good idea, only a guarantee 2% loss every compounding every year on the USD and limit supply isn't a thing. I think I would prefer Gold or Silver than USD or Euro even with silver going down a bit.

well if i was worried about the USD and Euro, i'd be going bags of wheat rice etc Wink

though we're talking bitcoin, if it was to fail tomorrow, the sun will still be rising pretty fine each morning.

1058  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin XT has code which downloads your IP address to facilitate blacklisting on: August 19, 2015, 01:14:10 PM
i cant beleive it, if this is true XT loose all my respect, freedom and privacy and our flag and they destroy it.

i will wait for a reply from the XT core devs and watch this thread carefully, but if finally we discover that this is true.... well maybe this is a good news so we can concentrate our efforts on what is needed, THE ORIGINAL BITCOIN.

Whats your question?  The thread above was based on a flawedpremise to start with, but the substantive issue of IP Prioritization has been answered - its configurable by those running a node to be either on or disabled.

Bitcoin core still exists, so no need for extra concentration there. This is simply a poll to let nodes/miners make a choice as to whether they want to increase limits now or wait for consensus ( that doesnt look like happening)

If bitcoinxt achieves majority, it will be the one everyone continues with. If it fails to achieve the numbers required, it will become obsolete.

Are you ignoring stuff there for a reason?

If the XT altcoin became a defacto (which it wont) then people would be accepting a whole list of changes - not just the time controlled block size increases.

... and I don't see any direct mention of IP blacklists on the XT fud web page.

Although fungibility may mean nothing to you, it's a pretty important factor to me as I have brought up on the forum a few times over the years.

blacklists in there mean I wont support it

what about this; "The Bitcoin Core project has shown it cannot reform and so it must be abandoned." Mike Hearn

no one could honestly with even half a brain not see that none of this is actually about blocksize, thats the distraction.
1059  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how did you fools let Mike Hearn in? on: August 19, 2015, 12:37:07 PM
Well he's here pretty much from the beginning. Nobody let him in, he has join by himself. Isn't this the point of decentralized and open source system, anybody can join and quit whenever they feel so!

can they really?

the code in reality is controlled by so few (with a love it or leave it attitude).

like with most things bitcoin; reality is far removed from the theory of it.

Well if the reality is really like that, then the Bitcoin is headed in the wrong direction. Satoshi definitely hasn't envisioned this kind of centralization for Bitcoin.

"The Bitcoin Core project has shown it cannot reform and so it must be abandoned." Mike Hearn

showing his true colours and what he's really trying to do;  ol divide and conquer 101
1060  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did you read this? This is crazy shit. on: August 19, 2015, 12:33:37 PM
https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1

This very well could be the end of Bitcoin.  In every case, it is insanely serious.  Notably: "The decision process for Bitcoin Core - is broken".  

Price to less than $100 before Wednesday.  Bet me.  

"The end of Bitcoin"

You should Google Bitcoin obituaries. Bitcoin has been extremely resilient in the face of adversity.

that's why they are not killing it directly.

but heading for a centralised, regulated watered down version of the original bitcoin Sad

"The Bitcoin Core project has shown it cannot reform and so it must be abandoned." Mike Hearn

thats what he really wants, full control.

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