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1761  Economy / Economics / Re: Nostalgia already: "...Bitcoin...is worth nearly a dollar..." on: February 03, 2016, 04:25:18 AM
Yeah now we're in 2016 and still facing the same chicken-egg challenge.
But bitcoin is not only a currency, it's also a store of value and an investment. So the so-called chicken-egg challenge isn't really one: users must come first, as investors, and then more and more retailers can join in as bitcoin becomes a more and more attractive mean of payment.
In other words we know which comes first, between the bitcoin-egg and the bitcoin-chicken  Smiley

Now the real challenges are different: (1) the blocksize issue (2) regulation that might come, supported by masses for whom it's innocent geeks who use bitcoin anymore but terrorists.
1762  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Vers un monde sans argent liquide on: February 03, 2016, 03:17:21 AM
J'étais un gamin à l'époque mais quand on est passé à l'euro mes parents en ont retiré spécialement un de la banque pour me le montrer. Ça a été mon seul contact avec un billet de 500.

Le billet de 500 euros (et dans une moindre mesure celui de 200 euros aussi) n'a jamais servi qu'aux marchés noirs pour leurs transferts de grosses sommes en douce.
Je suis aussi d'avis qu'on dégage les 200. Tout ce qu'on peut faire d'honnête avec un billet de 200 euros on peut le faire avec des billets de 100.

Et puis aussi, dans un autre registre, pour optimiser le système il faudrait dégager tout ce qui commence par un 2 de façon générale : 2 cents, 20 cents et 2 euros, tout ça c'est juste du poids en plus dans le portefeuille ; si on transforme la pièce de 1 euro en un billet ça nous laisserait avec 4 pièces et 5-6 billets parce que j'ai rien contre le billet de 20 euros. A Taiwan ils ont l'un des systèmes d'argent liquide les plus efficaces au monde, pour le particulier comme pour a lutte anti-marché noir : seulement 4 pièces, et leur plus gros billet vaut 30 euros. Vas-y pour t'acheter de quoi équiper une armée au marché noir quand tu dois te ramener avec des camions de billets pour payer le fournisseur.
1763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Europe unfriendlyness is growing on: February 03, 2016, 03:11:42 AM
Well it's just about time they started realizing a 500 euros was only useful to terrorists, drug dealers, and corrupt officials, I say  Roll Eyes.
Think if you guys followed the online poker scene you could make a lot of comparisons to how bitcoin will be squeezed.

Such as... ?
I'm interested in knowing any reason why bitcoin could possibly fail. The more we know about a threat the more we can take appropriate steps to counter it.
1764  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Discutons du cours actuel ! on: February 02, 2016, 01:10:46 PM
Tu parles de deux choses, là, ungaro: la fermeture de MMM Global et celle de Ezubao. Tu penses que les deux sont négatives pour bitcoin ?
En attendant, c'est la fête d'autres crypto
Juste une ou deux whales qui ont provoqué un pump de protestation sur 5-6 altcoins. C'est déjà en train de retomber. Et aussi, à peu près n'importe qui peut devenir une whale sur n'importe lequel de ces alts à condition d'avoir quelques (dizaines de) milliers d'euros dispos. Bref, faut être un peu motivé mais le fait est qu'à peu près n'importe qui de motivé et originaire d'un pays développé peut faire ce genre de pump & dump sur plus ou moins n'importe quel alt (litecoin mis à part).
Ethereum est la seule exception possible à cette règle. Tous les autres sont déjà en train de retomber. Ethereum aussi, d'ailleurs. C'est pour ça que je dis exception "possible". Parce qu'en fait je ne comprends rien à Ethereum. Si ça se trouve c'est un truc putain d'énorme. Si ça se trouve c'est juste du vaporware. En tout cas il y a un truc qui fait vachement vaporware : personne ne semble capable de résumer Ethereum en quelques points simples. Chaque fois que quelqu'un parle d'Ethereum c'est toujours dans un putain de jargon abstrait au possible.
Par contre un truc qui donne plutôt confiance c'est qu'ils bossent avec Microsoft. Enfin bref j'y comprends rien.
1765  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you believe that Satoshi is still active on Bitcointalk.org? on: February 02, 2016, 09:15:55 AM
Over the last few years the posts in this forum has pretty much degenerated into garbage. Why on earth would Satoshi bother wasting his time on the crap discussions that we're having these days?

Mostly this.

Also, there has nothing for Satoshi left to be done for the community or the software itself. I would want him to return once to know what he thinks about the current nonsense block size issue. That would be nice, but I don't think it will happen.
There is a possibility that he steps in if the issue stays unresolved to a point that it really becomes threatening for the ecosystem, like if the price drops back below $200 because a solution hasn't been found.
If you ask me I'd say that chances aren't high that he'd step in even if such a thing happened, but nevertheless it's a possibility.
1766  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some hard truth about Satoshi's identity on: January 30, 2016, 03:10:33 PM
That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that Wink

Satoshi may be the mastermind behind bitcoin but even then thats not to say that his spelling might be poor. Its a good idea looking into spelling as clues but even people i know from the uk get confused with spelling and use us versions over uk ones . Probably not conclusive proof.

Generally if someone excels in computers and maths they do poorly in English writing skills because they spent most of their time learning programming. Most medical doctors spend at the minimum seven years doing medical training, but most of them write in illegible handwriting on prescriptions. Satoshi is a genius programmer, but said his writing skills weren't as good as his programming skills. He's probably awful at spelling, and used the default US spell checker in his browser.
I can't say for sure because as far as things go I'm not a programmer, but I heard that the first version of bitcoin wasn't so well coded? Satoshi is a genius inventor. That doesn't make him a genius programmer. I might be mistaken though, because I really can't say for myself if indeed the earliest versions of bitcoin were badly coded or not.
Your post still makes me think about these teenagers referring to Kurt Cobain as one of the greatest guitar players of all time, though. There's nothing more wrong than that. Technically speaking the guy wasn't properly speaking nowhere but really, he wasn't so great. But he had a genius for song writing, though. He was truly a master at that.
All this to say that these things are generally not connected. Mastering a means of expression doesn't make you creative, and inversely, being creative doesn't make you a technical master.

Besides, I've found that non-English speaking programmers usually had a pretty good written English, on average. This has to do with the fact that almost all the relevant information regarding computing is in English and so they read English on a regular basis. It's the same for chemists, physicists, doctors, and a lot of other specialists. Besides, if they do researches, they usually like to publish their papers in English, regardless of their native language, because it brings the potential audience to higher summits.

(And also, doctors write badly on purpose, so that average people can't read what is prescribed  Cheesy).
1767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some hard truth about Satoshi's identity on: January 30, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Great job. So you were tryna localise where the bloke was from based on his writing habits, found 4 grammatically localised spellings out of hundreds of posts and you jumped to a conclusion. That's ace.

Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.

lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy get some shrimp on the barbie, its cold here in Ireland  Wink
Here in Taiwan it was pretty cold, too, last week. it even snowed in some places, which is truly an exceptional phenomenon, for an island located on Tropic of Cancer. Now it's gotten back to normal though: a light sweater does the trick  Grin.
Anyway, my point is that anyone who learned English as a second language to a reasonable level of proficiency could write like a native from whichever region they like. Learning how to speak with a proper regional accent is harder in my view, but the writing part can easily be fulfilled.
Satoshi is highly proficient in English but that doesn't make him an English speaker.
1768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some hard truth about Satoshi's identity on: January 30, 2016, 08:28:54 AM
Great job. So you were tryna localise where the bloke was from based on his writing habits, found 4 grammatically localised spellings out of hundreds of posts and you jumped to a conclusion. That's ace.

Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.
1769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We need to convert Bitcoins to new units... on: January 30, 2016, 06:45:21 AM
if there is a wide adoption someday and this becomes a "problem" I think that using satoshis as a unit will be good enough. Perhaps by that time Bitcoin will have a high price, so it would make a lot of sense using satoshis as a unit.
Using the satoshi as a unit makes about as much sense as reading 97 as "four times twenty plus ten and seven" instead of "ninety seven" although you read 54 as simply "fifty four"*. It's just another way to fuck logic sideways. I'm not against foreign systems as long as they're consistent, but using a 10^3 scaling basis for everything and then jumping to satoshis out of the blue that's horribly unconsistent.

(* : Yes I'm making fun of the French language here  Lips sealed).
1770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We need to convert Bitcoins to new units... on: January 30, 2016, 06:16:14 AM
This topic again?  I like the satoshi unit, it's easy to remember even in the 10K range.  I've said it before when this has come up, but I think it should either be BTC or satoshi.  Not bits or mBTC.  Those are just stupid and require an unnecessary conversion.
Come on, what kind of cultural background are you from, to think that counting a "one hundred million" block is easier than successive divisions or multiplications by a thousand?
If you're Asian I can definitely get that you'd prefer to think of 1,000,000 "one hundred times ten thousand", because 10,000 is a scaling unit for you, but no, if you're from any European-related background you see a unit there: it's "one million". 10,000 on the other hand shouldn't seem like a block to you: it's "ten thousand".

1,000,000,000 : billion
1,000,000 : million
1,000 : thousand
1 : one
0.001 : thousandth
0.000001 : millionth
0.00000001 : dafukisthat
0.000000001 : billionth

Again it's true that 0.00000001 and even 0.0001 make sense as scaling units in Chinese and Japanese, but not in English.
And it's not just the metric system (otherwise I'd understand that English speakers might disagree) but the whole western numeral scaling system here.

1771  Economy / Economics / Re: Japan adopts negative interest rate in surprise move on: January 29, 2016, 11:49:27 PM
So how exactly does negative interest work? They PAY you to borrow their money? Isn't that kind of like getting paid to do trash removal?
Normal bank account: people save their money and get annual interests = You earn money by leaving it in the bank.
Negative interest rate: people save their money and pay for it = You lose money by leaving it in the bank.

It's kind of like lending your money to people and giving them free interests at the same time. With a cherry on top.
1772  Economy / Economics / Re: Japan adopts negative interest rate in surprise move on: January 29, 2016, 11:36:33 PM
When I went to Japan recently they doubled-checked my luggage and other passengers' on a systematic basis at the customs, to make sure that we weren't carrying any gold (amongst all the other traditional drugs and weapons). It was my first time being controlled for gold by the customs. They even showed us a sign, explicitly showing gold bars on them, asking us if we had any  Cheesy. Has anyone else recently had the experience when going to Japan?
There's something to dig there: they're going in with the hope that people will get their money out from banks in order to actually invest in businesses and not in gold or in bitcoin. It tells you something about how desperate they are about their deflation. That's good news for us anyway. I heard that regular Japanese people liked to save money on their bank account and didn't really buy stocks or assets, but these negative interest rate here are only aimed at rich people, who of course know about these investments.
1773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I found Satoshi Nakamoto on: January 29, 2016, 06:57:51 PM
You are making assumptions where they are not ready to be made. A pokemon fan does not have to be a kid, especially in a country like Japan. Adults watch anime all the time there, including pokemon.

Also, satoshi never specifically asked not to be traced. He just disappeared and never replied any more. This can be due to many reasons, one being that he doens't want to be found, but he could also have died for instance (even though that is highly unlikely).
Still I have to disagree: few adults would watch Pokemon even in Japan, as it's definitely aimed for kids and young teenagers. I have a bunch of Japanese friends in their twenties (being myself in my twenties) and they indeed occasionally read mangas and probably watch anime (still I have to insist on the "occasionally" because Japan is a country where you'd easily get marginalized if you spend too much time on these), but I'd be surprised that they'd watch Pokemon. I can ask around if you want. I admit that I never did. But I'm pretty sure of the answer I'll get: Pokemon is for kids (and ok, nostalgic adults too, every now and then).

But I'm not pretending to hold the truth regarding the origin of the name Satoshi. I'm just going with my own assumption that if Satoshi is indeed a pseudonym, there's a possibility that it was chosen by a western pokemon fan born between 1985 and 1995. These are just my thoughts though. Don't sweat it: I have no evidence that what I'm saying is true. You could say I'm just talking out of my ass  Cheesy . Especially if the guy is really Japanese but Satoshi is still a pseudonym, then chances would become really super slim that it would be because of Pokemon's creator, since he'd have a much more developed background regarding Japanese names.
1774  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Revue de presse bitcoin en français on: January 29, 2016, 06:21:39 PM
Ça c'est un article qui parle des bienfaits ou non d'augmenter la taille des blocs, et qui prend très fortement parti pour Core en donnant plein de noms d'oiseaux aux supporters de Classic.
En fait, ce que j'aimerais surtout c'est savoir ce qu'il va se passer une fois que la fork sera là. Pourquoi devrait ou ne devrait pas rester avec Core et ses blocs de 1MB j'ai déjà pas mal lu dessus et je comprend déjà pas mal la question et ses enjeux. J'ai pas un avis tranché par contre (parce que je vois bien que quelle que soit la solution adoptée on va perdre quelque chose qu'on a pour le moment en essayant de sauver autre chose). Enfin je serais plus avec Core dans l'absolu parce qu'à priori, au moins temporairement, ils ont des solutions qui permettent de garder la même décentralisation qu'aujourd'hui tout en n'augmentant pas les fees. D'autre part c'est sûrement pas un article aussi incisif et énervé qui va me faire prendre parti :-/

Mais je reviens à mes moutons : c'est sur ce à quoi va ressembler Bitcoin quand la fork sera là que j'aimerais lire. Innocemment je pensais qu'en bougeant rapidement vers la version qui semblait devenir privilégiée, il y avait moyen de gagner de l'argent. Si tu as ça de dispo ça m'intéresserait plus. Parce qu'à la lecture de la quote ci-dessous, j'ai l'impression que tu confirmes ce que je disais, alors que non, normalement, vu que tu me contredisais juste avant :
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En cas de hardfork, les coins de la premiere chaine sont valables aussi dans la deuxieme. L'inverse n'est pas vrai.

Tu peux en tirer toutes sortes d'exploits

Comme vendre ceux de la deuxieme grace a une transaction valable uniquement dans la deuxieme et pas dans la premiere. Vendre tes coins de la deuxieme (en gardant ceux de la premiere)
Racheter avec cet argent des coins dans la premiere.

(Attention. Si tu fais une transaction valable dans les deux chaines. Ceux de la premieres disparaissent aussi.

Seul le marché fixe le prix des coins.

Comme tu vends dans la deuxieme et rachete dans la premiere, tu dump la deuxieme et pump la premiere
1775  Local / Débutants / Re: XAPO vous connaissez? on: January 29, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
Ouais, en fait Xapo c'est seulement pour les faucets.
1776  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I found Satoshi Nakamoto on: January 29, 2016, 04:48:06 PM
Satoshi is the first name for many people from Japan. Satoshi is also the name of a animation character according to Wikipedia.

Ash Ketchum, known as Satoshi (サトシ?) in Japan, is a fictional character in the Pokémon franchise owned by Nintendo. He is the main protagonist of the Pokémon anime and manga series, as well as on various merchandise related to the franchise.
I doubt many people had this information in the western world, even more since any Pokemon fan would know that their creator's name was Satoshi Tajiri and that this information is much easier to find. And yes, I had the same idea that our Satoshi might have been a Pokemon fan when he was young  Cheesy (which would mean that he should be in his late twenties now).
Now I haven't read all the reasoning, since it's a lot of text, thus I don't know how right/wrong you are, but it seems like you invested a lot of time in this research. I feel a bit sad for Satoshi, though, who would like to remain anonymous but is tracked down by a large part of the community :-/
I guess this is the price of success.
1777  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Revue de presse bitcoin en français on: January 29, 2016, 02:49:30 PM
Google trilema resolution economique du fork (en anglais)
Je me disais bien que je devais me tromper, depuis le post de Meuh, mais alors j'aimerais comprendre... par contre... Google quoi, tu dis ?
1778  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Revue de presse bitcoin en français on: January 29, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
J'ai encore beaucoup à apprendre sur le forking :-/
Donc bon, on est d'accord, quand la fork arrivera on se retrouvera avec 2 fois plus de bitcoins qu'avant : un lot de 15 millions sur Core et un lot de 15 millions sur Classic, chacun valant moitié moins que ce qu'il ne valait à l'origine ($190 au cours actuel). Ensuite, moi, quand je voudrai faire une transaction, on va me demander quelle version je veux utiliser. Mettons que j'aie 1 BTC et que je le revende sur *jette une pièce en l'air, face pour Core, pile pour Classic* Classic en échange de dollars et que je rachète cet équivalent sur Core. J'ai bien 2 BTC sur Core, valant au total $380, non ?
1779  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Discutons du cours actuel ! on: January 29, 2016, 01:57:05 PM
Version bitcoinesque du péril jaune ? Les Chinois ont toutes les mines, une part respectable de tous les bitcoins disponibles, et ce sont des gros traders.
Bref ce n'est pas parce qu'on les laisse faire qu'ils font la loi sur le marché mais parce qu'ils sont des gros fous baleinesques sur les exchanges. C'est seulement natuel qu'ils aient un gros pouvoir sur le cours, et le fait qu'ils utilisent ou non bitcoin comme une monnaie pour acheter et vendre des biens n'a rien à y voir.
1780  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Revue de presse bitcoin en français on: January 29, 2016, 12:16:35 PM
Il n'y a rien de nouveau, dans ton article, galaxiekyl. Et si forking il arrive c'est pas à un pump qu'on va avoir affaire. Loin de là. Ça va être un hiver à s'en geler les couilles. Par contre je pense personnellement qu'il devrait être de courte durée : une des deux chaines va rapidement prendre un petit avantage sur l'autre et logiquement à partir de là les choses devraient se précipiter : les gens vont déserter l'autre et il ne restera assez vite qu'un vrai bitcoin d'un côté et un ersatz sur lesquel seuls quelques résistants de la mort vont rester de l'autre. Ça s'appelle le marché : entre deux solutions dont chacune présente des avantages et des inconvénients, les rats investisseurs vont choisir celle qui représente le plus gros pactole et ils devraient s'y précipiter à la vitesse de la foudre frappant un cheval au galop (ça veut dire vite).
Si on s'y prend bien il y a même moyen de se faire de la thune là dessus.
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