Where do you come from, OP? This information becomes important when you say that "even your geeky friends don't know about bitcoin", because if you come from China or the States, for example, I'd be really surprised it it were true.
It all depends on the definition and the length of time. People getting into bitcoin now will hardly ever be considered pioneers, whatsoever, especially because 1 BTC right now is still a ridiculously low amount when you compare it with some other people. But you, who started in late 2011, were probably still part of the first 0.01% to ever use bitcoin. That's very pioneerish to me. Maybe not now because still less than 1% of the total world's population use bitcoin, but if we get to 10% in the future, you will likely be considered a pioneer. Now it all comes down to the definition you give to the word pioneer. Did you absolutely have to mine in early 2009 to be a pioneer, or can you also be one if you were able to buy BTC for less than a dollar in 2010? All this is related to the number of final users at said time. The more they are, the broader the definition.

Si ta question est de savoir reconnaître une arnaque d'une proposition honnête la prochaine fois, un peu de prise de renseignement ça peut aider. Déjà
- se demander d'où ils tirent leurs bénéfices c'est la première question à se poser (parce qu'un robot trader je veux bien mais un qui fait du 380% de bénéf par jour, heuuuuu *sifflote*),
- ensuite, l'âge du site c'est pas non plus un truc qui donnait confiance (Started: Feb-22-2016... voila quoi).
- D'autre part, l'anglais utilisé partout sur le site est un peu à chier, ce qui est étrange pour une compagnie basée en Utah (et de manière générale, étrange pour n'importe quelle compagnie sérieuse, surtout si l'anglais est la seule langue dispo sur le site).

Si ta question est par contre de savoir comment récupérer ta thune ou savoir comment attaquer les mecs en justice, désolé mais tes chances sont très très minces   . En général les arnaqueurs protègent bien leurs arrières sur ce genre de trucs. La prochaine fois que tu vois un site qui écrit noir sur blanc "faites nous confiance et on vous double vos bitcoins en un claquement de doigts", bah faut pas cliquer. J'ai peur que tu ne viennes de l'apprendre à la dure.

Anyone who dumps after reaching any price is someone who doesn't understand bitcoin. Simple as that. Usually these people (1) don't own many bitcoins and (2) they don't dump all together at the same time. Thus they're not going to have too much of an impact on the price. But yeah, when we reach 1000, 2000, 10000, and such numbers, people will sell a little and leave. But they're only people who weren't needed in the first place. Just passers by.

The only time people should be allowed to dump is when they're positive we've reached the turning point of a bubble and the price is starting to go down (and ideally they shouldn't properly dump but only sell a percentage of what they own). But it's not called dumping then. It's called trading. Because they'll likely buy back when they deem the price low enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCNrK-n68CM

Non mais en plus fait je croyais que l'ether était un token pour le réseau ethereum et pas une monnaie, et que c'était de ce fait très différent de bitcoin, et que donc il n'y avait pas vraiment de rivalité à y avoir entre les deux ? Mais il reste quand même toujours des gens qui essayent de démoraliser les bitcoiners. En effet, bitcoin commence à rouiller un peu en matière de jumps vers la lune. Je sais pas si ça va rester éternellement ainsi mais c'est la rançon du succès : la stabilité (vers le haut et surtout vers le bas). Investir dans bitcoin ne permet plus vraiment de décupler ses fonds en pas de temps comme c'était possible il y a quelques années, contrairement aux shitcoins et à ethereum. Mais d'un autre côté la possibilité pour bitcoin de prendre de la valeur est toujours là, tandis que sa possibilité de se retrouver au niveau zéro d'ici demain est plus qu'infime. Par contre avec les shitcoins y a vraiment moyen de se faire une shit tonne de blé, mais aussi de se retrouver avec plus rien au bout du compte.
Maintenant je ne place pas l'Ether au même rang que les shitcoin parce qu'il n'en est pas un. Très visiblement ethereum c'est quelque chose de plus complexe, avec un vrai raisonnement derrière. Cela dit ether ne détronera pas bitcoin non plus. Tu peux retourner te masturber avec tes ethers si c'est ce que tu crois qu'il va se passer. Déjà l'ether est inflationniste, je crois ? Or l'un des arguments principaux des gens pour utiliser bitcoin c'est la déflation.

Il a bu, je crois.

Bah comme je le disais, le sarcasme n'est pas toujours facile à repérer, sur internet 

Je sais bien que le second degré n'est pas facile à repérer sur internet mais quand même, après mon post qui s'est retrouvé en tête de cette page t'aurais pu faire un effort  

Ah bah oui, hein le dollar parce que le dollar quoi. L'AMERIQUE, messieurs.
Et puis vraiment, c'est vrai, le cours en yuan il est toujours parfaitement rond quoi... 1262, 933, toussa...
(Mais j'adhère sur le principe : c'est en Chine que l'action se trouve, par contre c'est plutôt aux volumes échangés que je regarderais pour tirer ce genre de conclusions, parce que franchement le prix bah il est jamais trop rond nulle part :-/ )

Oh, je vois ce que tu veux dire avec l'activité potentielle. En effet c'est tout à fait vrai.

Where I live you can buy from convenience stores with bitcoins. Also providing that you know where to go you can have a beer or spend a night at a hotel for bitcoins, too
It's not far from paradise. It's called Taiwan

Smoking weed is highly prohibited though. Sometimes you can see Americans smoke hashish though, but they're always extremely careful with the cops. No kidding. It's Asia.
One day I went into a random pub and asked the owner with a smile if bitcoins were accepted in his establishment (I knew there were 99% chances that they wouldn't be but yeah you know, just kidding... and advertising for bitcoin, also ). He smiled back and said "I wish". To which I replied "well it's up to you mate, if you want to accept bitcoins you just have to decide so", and then he walked away without saying anything.
I guess it meant that he didn't know what bitcoin was, or that he had heard about it and though it was just an internet scam and that he actually meant "you wish", but yeah, anyway 

Well there's gold...
Has it destroyed printing plates like it could have? No. Instead it's co-existing together with fiat currencies. I don't think bitcoin really has much more power to destroy printing plates than gold did (to start with it doesn't even have as much power to do anything as gold  ). More likely bitcoin will co-exist with fiat currencies for a good while. And I mean a good while. That is, until people are no longer afraid to stand for themselves.And also it will take average people to accept going through the hassle of memorizing complicated passwords and seeds, just to do something that they think can already be done with fiat paper. We have a long way to go before bitcoin becomes a real threat for fiat currencies.

Man the EU is an investment on the future, and it's the same for every single one of its members.
If you lose that of sight, of course it appears meaningless, and of course you'll feel like paying more than you get. Come on that's an investment.

According to this research, the world's total wealth is $241 trillion. Phail.

I didn't understand the rest of your post, by the way. What does it mean "the first threat to them in over 100 years"?

I've just noticed that you forgot to add Bitcoin Ticker Widget in your list of Android apps, OP.
That's another great tool for checking bitcoin's price quickly, with graphs and prices according to a lot of different currencies on a lot of different exchanges (it can also be used for Litecoin, btw).

This definitely seems familiar. It might bring down bitcoin a little but it won't suffice to bring it to the ground, though, because there's still the lot of us who are using their brains and don't believe everything they're fed with (and our ranks increase with every passing day). Besides, anyone taking too much stuff at face value and not using their brains enough will soon find themselves with nowhere to go but out because in bitcoin anything can happen, thus if you're only here "becuz bitcoin haz bright future lol" you'll leave by your own will quite quickly, most likely to never come back.
So the worst case scenario is a price drop, several weak elements leaving, the others buying at cheap price and price rising back again, with basically only the same reliable people still being there and bitcoin having already achieved the highest degree of recognition that it will ever achieve. It's certainly sad considering all the potential that bitcoin has, but it's still not that bad for those of us here to stay: bitcoin is already great as it is now. And I'm talking about the worst case scenario, here. A sightly better one that could still happen even if we are divided like we are now is a very slow growth. But hey, a slow growth is a growth.

Anyway, we shouldn't be too pessimistic regarding human nature. I say we should wait and see.
Besides, I think that at least several devs are using the FUD to buy at cheap price. I wouldn't be surprised that some of them are being difficult to agree with because they can benefit from the situation. Now if it gets really dangerous they all have a lot to lose too, I say. Consensus is much easier to reach when everyone can see the sword of Damocles hanging over their heads. Everyone has a lot to lose if bitcoin fails. Now some of us have a high decision power to end the FUD. And if motivation is what they need, then time is all we need.
I hope you'll still be in a well enough state after the fight with the big guy to still be able to count if it ever happens, or the remaining guys might notice that you're weakening and maybe seize the opportunity  

I used a lot preev.net/com at the beginning but now I prefer bitcoinwisdom for all the features that it has. Preev.net is simple but maybe too simple. I like to be able to look at the graph, indicators and use lots and lots of tools, which preev.com doesn't allow for. If I need to check the price in New Taiwan Dollars I use bitoex, which is basically an exchange (but has many more features) that only works for TWD though. Anyway that's the only reason I would use preev.whatever : check the current NTD rate.
Also as you said http://bitcoincharts.com/ is great for historical research.
And sometimes I also have a look at http://blockchain.info/charts, for other non-price related data that I can't find elsewhere (and they have plenty).

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C'est une BLAGUE ? Ils ont supprimé les lecteurs CD  ?

I have to disagree with you: much like most of the others I agree that people who claim that BTC is dead are mostly bears who hope to buy at a cheap price. They don't have to be butthurt to be bears. They only have to know that at a certain time the price is high and will mostly go down at least a little. So they sell, claim that BTC is dead and then when the price goes lower they buy back.
Go ask Mike Hearn. He can teach you that.

Je la sentais venir depuis 2 jours, cette chute. Quelque part entre $440 et $470 il y a un bon gros plafond. On l'aurait peut-être passé si la news sur le consensus avait été véridique, mais en l'état c'était très peu probable. Par contre comme j'étais pas non plus 100% sûr j'ai pas risqué trop de BTC non plus. Et comme je manque encore de confiance en moi en matière de trading j'ai pas attendu jusqu'à la chute maximale et je me suis précipité : j'ai racheté à $436 (presque rien gagné quoi mais je fais mes armes, je fais mes armes  ). C'est mon plus gros problème pour le moment : mes analyses sont pas trop dégueues, mais je laisse trop d'affect prendre place dans mes décisions :-/ . Faut que j'appenne à contrôler mes émotions et à me détacher.
Par contre quand j'ai vu que la chute nous emmenait jusqu'au plancher des $420 j'ai réinjecté un peu dans la machine. Ça m'étonnerait qu'on descende beaucoup plus bas pour le moment. Je nous vois bien osciller dans cette fourchette pendant un moment.

Disclaimer pour madmat : je suis un débutant qui trade à ses risques et périls mais qui connait sa place et qui n'est pas tout à fait idiot non plus. Tu es libre de prendre mon avis en compte ou pas, mais en tout cas, ne te base jamais sur l'avis d'une seule personne pour prendre une décision. (Et par avance : évite de me rappeler trop souvent avec un ton trop cynique voire condescendant que je dois rester responsable : je pourrais finir par mal le prendre  ).

It all depends on how you do it. You could do it in such a way that everyone loses faith and sells cheaply. You'd need a great deal of BTC in the first place to do it though, but you could start by spreading FUD and then crashing the market. Of course that's an all-or-nothing: if the FUD coupled with the crash aren't enough and people keep on buying, you're fucked.