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921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: August 12, 2023, 07:55:56 PM
Somehow people on twitter believed these billionaires will really rumble in the cage. The gladiator type of fight in ancient Rome ruins is a kind of visionary way of looking into it though. Made me believe Elon is really just playing around.

You can’t blame them since Zuckerberg is really involved on Martial Arts while Elon is known for doing crazy things including buying twitter whihc he really did while everyone thinks that he is just trolling.

I still believe that this fight will gonna happened but I’m sure there’s a catch whichboth party involved might get something big out of it aside from the result of the match. They might reveal a huge project cooperation on the fight night.

Zucker already said that if there is something to have been agreed, it should come from him and not from Elon.
Elon continues to keep playing around he's going to be the villain between here. He kept getting away with such stunts when he could just say no to this fight. Since he keeps doing it, he really enjoys the attention.

On the other hand, Twitter is still more fun to use than Threads. I think that's more of a reason for him doing this.
922  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Need help with Bittrex KYC on: August 12, 2023, 07:32:54 PM

Why sweat for the $100 when your KYC is more important to you? Just forget about it. However, if you once submitted a KYC document somewhere like Binance then just stick to that exchange for the rest of your life.

Since Bittrex will be shutting down, it's no wonder where their database going to end up one day so it's best not to submit any KYC to them anymore. I believe this is also what OP thought. You will just be spammed or end up on the IRS list.
923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: August 12, 2023, 06:59:34 PM
I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
If we believe that such assumption can hold any argument then we will also believe that all gamblers are addicts since it the same level of assumption that make up for the misconceptions that everyone that gamble has financial needs that is why they gamble.

What about those that gamble just to while away free time or those that gamble on demo accounts that don't generate any rewards,  to me this is a big misunderstanding from the individual you mentioned here.

Of course we know that gambling on demo account is not regarded as gambling,bI think that can pass for a practice for the real substance which requires money and emotional attachment most times.

However, those who gamble just for leisure, can we really regard them as gambler? Like if you are a gambler then you are aiming for a reward both monetary or material wise, so that is the point whether people do gamble because they have financial craving that they want to double their money or they just gamble even though they have sufficient to take care of themselves and family.

Casino's goal is to make every gamble. Whether you are among the haves and have-nots, you are considered a gambler and you are already in their database as among the users who gamble and it's just a matter of time and promotion, it won't take much to convince them to play.

Those who gamble for leisure travel hundreds of miles away only to gamble in a resort casino. A China man flies to Nevada only to play poker in Vegas. Pretty sure they have sufficient money to fly around so why not travel to Egypt to witness ancient pyramids for leisure, they chose a casino.

924  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you rather start/grow a business from scratch or buy an existing business? on: August 12, 2023, 06:34:48 PM


If the business is thriving I think I'd prefer buying it as long as it has a good location and I can afford the price as well. But it would really cost high. The owner must have a good reason for selling it too which I would wonder.

I prefer to set up a business from zero so that I have good ability in business slowly. btw, Elon Musk has several businesses that he started from scratch, so that he has good business skills and is very good at seeing companies with great potential in the future, from here we can conclude that all business people must have a business that he started from scratch. besides that we will have a great sense of satisfaction when the business we started from zero grows well over time and also our relations are becoming more and more confident in our abilities in business.

Starting a business is hard. I have done this before and simply was just not a success since it was my first time. I am trying to make it work for 6 months and it's just not working. This was back 2016. Elon must have learned a lot from those failures.
925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: August 12, 2023, 05:43:34 PM

Even though gambling is quite different from trading, we cannot deby the fact that they have little similarities together in risk and loosing.

What similarities exactly apart from both being risky that you can lose your money which is normal with every other business. Gambling and trading is not the same thing in terms of purpose and principle. Gambling is based on luck and you can not stop a game that you are already losing to stop your lose. But traders can use a stop mechanism that they use to cut down lose. I think this is a big difference and not similarities because they are not driving through same principle.
In gambling there are also several settings to stop betting when it reaches a certain point where we make settings to stop the game automatically, but not all casinos implement that, it is also true that the two are very different even though both have the same risks, but when discussing losses there will be very different, traders even though they lose if the price goes down the number of coins remains the same and it doesn't run out it's just that the value goes down, while gambling the coins will run out when you lose

That difference makes the two very different because what equates the two is the risk where when a trader panics and sells cheap it means he loses money and value too, so that's how traders work, while gambling is definitely gone.

I am not familiar if there is even a casino that will set up the limits and if there is, it's within the user is the real battle is. The emotion is harder to control than said. Sticking with the said budget is like limiting your freedom to win back the loss.

I don't think this is even the gauge to measure whether you are going a bit far in betting. I think its how you behave after losing a sum of money is what defines going a bit far. If you sell your belongings like watches or jewelry in order to gamble again, thats where it goes beyond.
926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: August 12, 2023, 04:58:25 PM

If every main card battle I usually make predictions and analyze when the fight has started at least half or finished the first round because on the main card there are always two great fighters that are hard to predict who will finish the fight with victory.
For Vicente Luque VS Rafael dos Anjos, to be honest, I was really confused and doubtful because both of them were quite great, but in my analysis, I found that their fight would last until the final round and the win depends on the points decisions that can be obtained from one of the fighters.
But it looks like Anjos can have the upper hand because he has strong enough bones to survive the opponent's punches and he has a hard punch but still a little doubtful about this analysis.

Nice analysis, this fight could surely go the distance and judging from the styles of both men it is surely going to be a submission or going the distance, for me both are surely well-versed when it come to wrestling and submission but but honestly even me are having a hard time in analysing who I think is going to him, I will watch both fighters recent fights and their fight that I think could point out that they had weakness with and surely will return here with a much early prediction for you guys,


The fight will start in the next few hours and we can see who is the strongest for this class that these two fighters from Brazil are fighting for.
This is the day that both fighters have been waiting for and I think the fight will be quite hot later because the one-blood citizen fighter must show the world the strongest for the title that is contested.
I have to see a few rounds before deciding to bet because both of them have prepared well for this meeting and even though I have faith in Anjos but it's better not to rush too much.

By the way, I see that there is a main card schedule that is quite sensational and will definitely be a very epic battle because it brings together the brutal king of his Adesanya vs Strickland next September.

source : https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1689728321675005953?t=2lWEqUVkB_iJ73-t3_Rz9Q&s=19

They send Dricus out and put Strickland who is way too underdog than Dricus. This is a giveaway fight for Izzy. This is also very short notice for both fighters probably not going to happen yet.

Sean is going to super hype the fight and will not just call Izzy the Chinese champ soon. The pre-conference would be more exciting than the real fight actually, it will be funny and we will see the best of Sean's trash talk to make Izzy mad. And Izzy will also throwback.
927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: August 12, 2023, 04:07:48 PM

Elopn twitted today that the fight will be in Rome and not with UFC lol https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1689963696703848449
Okay, so they are serious after all. So it might really happen unless he is just trolling about that ancient arena of the gladiators. But yep he is promoting Meta and X.

Elon must have been banking on his height like he could really fight in this sport. This is gonna be a money-making business for them. Funny Dana White was scratched out after making the hype.

Mark just dismisses all of these he agreed to a brawl but not what Musk is suggesting everything is still hanging it seems Mark is having second thoughts but after this announcement by Mark we'll see if Musk will continue to challenge Mark so they can agree on the date of the fight, everything that has been said after what Mark announced now is just speculation.


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Mark Zuckerberg has played down suggestions that his rumored cage fight with Elon Musk is close to being arranged.

The Meta owner said on his social media platform, Threads, that none of Mr Musk's claimed plans had been agreed upon, and that he was 'Not holding my breath'.

Mark Zuckerberg dismisses Elon Musk's claim that a proposed MMA bout in Rome is finalized

I knew it!  Elon is just trolling everyone even Dana is falling for it. The social media is his playground. I bet he wants to sponsor UFC just like the crypto.com or the vechain but just hasn't proposed yet to Dana until then he will just keep trolling.

Somehow people on twitter believed these billionaires will really rumble in the cage. The gladiator type of fight in ancient Rome ruins is a kind of visionary way of looking into it though. Made me believe Elon is really just playing around.
928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN: Give people time! on: August 12, 2023, 10:57:03 AM
What made him change his mind is probably he is losing money also, it's usually the case. When the man is already in need thats the time they think of alternative and remember an investment proposal to them. The majority just want to invest in the short term.

I remember I was in my in-law's house when we talk about investment and told my father-in-law about investing in BTC. The old man was interested not only in investing but also trading. Then I replied trading skills take time to be honed so you might have to do it manually in the platform. And when I already reach the discussion about risks, the brother-in-law interrupts saying if there is no assurance to making a profit then let's not get into it.  

The last thing I heard was that my brother-in-law was scammed by the BTC wallet app.
929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: August 12, 2023, 09:08:30 AM

Your browser will still collect your data from the past and will still feed you ads about casinos.
In fact, even if you are just thinking about poker, the ads presented on some websites you regularly visit prompts casino ads.  I think they are turning on the microphones in our phones so that if you talk loud about you playing online casinos, the bots will recognize what ads to feed on your browsing.

But you are finding a reason to blame your addiction, if you really want to stop, just think about stopping every time you feel like gambling again.
930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What should I do if the cloudbet casino withdrawal is delayed for more than 56 h on: August 12, 2023, 08:49:37 AM

Until they haven't suspended your account all you can do is wait. As they said above, those complains in the past were resolved, I guess yours will also be resolved by just waiting.

I would also be paranoid about what is going on if they let me wait longer than 24 hours. That's enough to scream scam to a casino for holding it too long. Especially since we have seen many casinos just don't care about bad reputations as long as they still can operate.
931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: August 11, 2023, 07:43:46 PM
First sign is to have the betting apps on your phone, some of us see it as a means of survive in this poor economy, But its really eaten up the little savings we have already. Its very difficult to get away from gambling, its only God that can save one from this addict.
Some are just lucky to be winning everyday, and they never see any evil in it, but those that lose everyday called it evil, that's the problem of gamble.
Having a betting apps on your phone is not a bad idea, am having a betting app on my mobile phone and that those not mean that am spending all my money on gambling, i just prefer gambling on my mobile phone rather visiting a gambling shop to gamble. The set of people that see gambling as a source of income are the once that are addicted to gambling, and most of them are just wasting money in gambling, because at the end if the money spent on gambling and the amount they have won is calculated, it will show that they are just wasting money, because their loss will be more than the amount they have won.

I think he is also right about it. None of us really installed a casino app as the browser works for the most part. Not sure why there is the need to unless the casino is giving privileges to those who install the app and in that case the addicts will really dive into it even if it's just free spins. The economy is killing everyone including the middle class who has more savings than the regular McDonald's crew. If the free spins give hope, I see no reason not to try it.

However only a few casinos that has apps actually particularly crypto casinos. Those fiat casinos I guess will do, addicts wouldn't mind.
932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: August 11, 2023, 07:17:17 PM

Elopn twitted today that the fight will be in Rome and not with UFC lol https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1689963696703848449
Okay, so they are serious after all. So it might really happen unless he is just trolling about that ancient arena of the gladiators. But yep he is promoting Meta and X.

Elon must have been banking on his height like he could really fight in this sport. This is gonna be a money-making business for them. Funny Dana White was scratched out after making the hype.
933  Other / Archival / Re: [A Bit of History] The most generous airdrop in the crypto history on: August 11, 2023, 07:10:39 PM

BTC airdrop today will not be that huge anymore. It's impossible to happen these days. But during that time they were saying that Faucets was sending 5BTC per claim. You could only wish you were active during that time and had kept those coins as well.

There are tons of airdrops since 2016, they only require to join the telegram channel. The 400 UNI that was airdropped to its first users I think is also generous enough for me. Especially if you have used Uniswap with a few other ETH wallets you have. 
934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: August 11, 2023, 06:26:11 PM

I guess I'd be the first to list my picks for this  UFC Fight Night.

Luque could KO RDA in round 2 unless his nose malfunctions again.
Put my money on Dawodu as he is young while Cub is old. Nothing is seriously a threat since Cub still has his hard chin so maybe Dawodu by decision.
I would be hoping to see a violent Rountree again like in the old UFC and Daukaus is not his best too since he is cutting down to LHW. He'd be fighting while dehydrated.
935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: August 11, 2023, 06:04:07 PM
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3. They don't regret losing, but just think it's part of gambling.
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In my opinion, gambling addicts and non-addicts both regret when they lose their game. The only thing that differentiates them is that people who are addicted to gambling will continue to play regardless of their financial condition and they tend to be aggressive and don't care about their condition. Whereas people who are not addicted to gambling, they tend to think rationally and keep thinking about their financial condition and tend to hold back from gambling again.

While you have mentioned the emotions of regret related to gambling addicts and non-addicts, I will not agree with the point that non-addicted gamblers not be prepared for a loss. They should be prepared for both loss and win.

Why would a non-addicted gambler will be sad about the gambling loss? I think such a gambler already knows the risk involved in the game and he would be prepared for the loss. This means that he would not risk too much that a loss from gambling will lead to a change in his mood. He must have a money management plan with him and therefore we put him in the non-addicted gamblers category.


A lot of people would say emotion should be controlled whether you are trading or gambling, but it's not true. You can't control emotions, it's the action that you can control. Anyone who loses will feel sad or regret losing money but whatever he does after that is what he can control. If he drinks and does drugs after it, it's up to him. If he can control and not chase the loss, it's good.

If one nongambler or a gambler just stops gambling and resumes back to what he was doing before he strays into gambling then he is not addicted.
936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 11, 2023, 05:08:43 PM

So much for the Fury vs Ngannou clown show, Mike Tyson vs Fedor Emelianenko might just be among the card this October.  Consider this post as a filler though it's a bit of an off-topic, I just want to insert the info to leave a bad taste. So who you got and how does it play out?

This is Fedor's death wish by the way I guess Tyson wouldn't say no to someone that is dying. Mikie still got it, somehow he showed it in his last with Roy Jones.

937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 11, 2023, 09:17:08 AM

It sounds like Tyson wants Tyson to lose according to his interview this isn't such a lopsided fight after all after examining Francis. But of course, he will be saying this since he is paid to train Francis.

Mike knows that at a certain age like 37, it's a lot harder to train someone to become a boxer unlike Fury who had been boxing his entire life. However it may end, Francis will still have the greatest story of his life from rugs to riches.
938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sudden Wealth Syndrome (SWS) In Gambling on: August 11, 2023, 06:37:16 AM
Sudden changes in a person's financials is never a good thing. A poor person who became rich in a very short time will have difficulties to adapt to the new reality.

I can imagine. If you live in a modest neighbourhood and you win a fortune, what do you do, do you tell everyone? If you do, you're putting yourself on the target of thieves and kidnappers, plus a lot of people will start asking you for money. If you don't and for example you move without telling anyone, you disappear from the neighbourhood and move to a rich area, suddenly you are friendless and you have to try to adapt to the new reality.

That's why I think the best way to get rich is slowly and if you get something, make sure it's a big but not exorbitant amount, although you can't choose about that.

Not the kind of reality, something worse. When money gets into the head of this person, he may start demanding and oppressing people who are less fortunate.

I can compare this to someone I know who after his sister became a lawyer, got friends in the government position and after a short period of time land grabs the farms belonging to their cousins. People suddenly fee like they are above the law when they have money.
939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 10, 2023, 09:13:28 PM


Imho, the fact that he was a boxer, does not mean he can be a good coach. Punching people is one thing, but seeing everything (opponent) from different angle, building strategy, planning, training is different.


It's different when you have someone in your corner who's been there and have one everything, Mike can impart some of his skill in the ring but of course, Mike Tyson is different from Ngannou, in Mike Tyson's heydays he has no strategy he just goes there and goes for the kill, he believes that everyone has a plan until they get hit, so if Mike can teach how to throw a more powerful punch and hit the target at the right time, Ngannou has a good chance, checking the poll here it's a close one, but we have a long way to go, and there's plenty of time for Mike to teach Ngannou everything he knows.


Tyson   - 19 (54.3%)
Ngannou   - 16 (45.7%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 35

Yeah, a prime Mike Tyson is very scary, but I do think that he trains hard as well during his early days that's why he almost knockout his opponents.

But going back to this fight, he could motivate Francis too and maybe gives one or two pointers on how to throw that devastating knockout if he sees one. Votes though are very close in our community. But if you look at sports bookies, they really favor Tyson Fury and Francis is like 6:1 underdog. So it's just a matter of execution for Francis and he should be aware on how he can preserved his energy for the later rounds.

Ngannou might only be good if he is the one dictating the game because this would be what Mike would teach him to be. Not like a technical fighter who will identify patterns of how Fury reacts to certain approaches. Ngannou may fail in being a pressure fighter against Fury but he only needs one punch.

Like what Mike was always quoted. Everybody has a plan until they got punched in the face. Though it's a long shot, I would still hope for Ngannou to win. A new face coming from a very depressed country rising like Pheonix.




940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: August 10, 2023, 06:49:40 PM

Dana is also behind the hype of this as he had been setting up the two yet he can't give a final date of when the battle will be.
But in an interview no one is ducking anyone and he got a point when he says the two are not professional fights for a living.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boRl-jOJ9IM&t=362s

I still think this is not happening because of Dana's response. If he had been talking to both of these billionaires and still are unsure of the dates then its the billionaires is the one playing Dana.
Yeah, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerburg are one of the most powerful people in our world right now and it is still their decision if they will get along with the hype of Dana created. Both of them are had their own footage of doing MMA trainings and both of them are trained or guided by professional MMA fighter. There's still a chance that they will both fight and honestly I'm rooting for them to fight. I'm speculating that if the fight happens, the losing player will either X(twitter) or facbook stocks will be affected by the outcome.

I can only assume Zucker vs Musk fight will happen in the metaverse since later in this interview, you will learn that UFC and meta ventured into the metaverse. I guess only their avatars will fight in the Metaverse. Nothing serious about this especially because they are not really into combat sports.

In the Metaverse, anything can happen. Everyone onboard in meta can have their own avatar created by AI and can do all sorts of sports. Thats where we are heading I guess yet we still can bet.
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