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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS - no IPO| Anonymous POS in development
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on: May 29, 2014, 03:51:47 PM
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You definitely have earned that "Ingnored". Hope we get a second moderated thread soon. Can t take it anymore. To much bs and not enough serious xc stuff.
It's al-right, no need for any moderation! You can stop feeding them now  @altsecure, really good job so far, just like eduff did for dark, thoughts are with you and don't let the haters get you down  It s not about feeding them or not. They keep going anyhow whether they get reactions or not. This thread has lost most of his quality by not being moderated. Furthermore i was talking about a second thread which means anyone would be free to enjoy the bs talk here. I m sure not many would do so. Trust me I saw what trolls did to the old unmoderated BlackCoin thread. It was literally flooded with sockpuppet accounts on every page spreading FUD. As soon the topic switched to moderated and the trolls saw their posts getting deleted the topic became readable again. I'd rather not see it happen though. It took a few weeks of trolling before BC team folded and made it self-moderated, so lets see what happens here. I hope we can keep it clean and professional. No way to do so without moderation. You could say: "Ignore" them. But i d have to ignore the reactions to them as well, even if they came from serious xc dudes. Not moderated means not readable means not worthy of xc, its developer and members. Lets ask Teka. The only downside with a self moderated topic is that it will need a new topic created, as you can't make an existing topic retrospectively self moderated. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet
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on: May 29, 2014, 03:20:55 PM
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why don't we just ask the DEV if he could do a teamview so everyone can identify him, and put all these accusations to rest.
Teamview? Identify? I think this guy would do plastic surgery if he needs to  The dev actually did host a teamview session before.... in the early days. yes i know i was here when it happend, just an idea to help prove to people he is who he says he is, i don't doubt, just tired of reading accusation, after accusation. DRK holders are very scared right now. They should dump whilst the DRK price is reasonable as what we saw yesterday was just the start. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS - no IPO| Anonymous POS in development
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on: May 29, 2014, 03:19:51 PM
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You definitely have earned that "Ingnored". Hope we get a second moderated thread soon. Can t take it anymore. To much bs and not enough serious xc stuff.
It's al-right, no need for any moderation! You can stop feeding them now @altsecure, really good job so far, just like eduff did for dark, thoughts are with you and don't let the haters get you down It s not about feeding them or not. They keep going anyhow whether they get reactions or not. This thread has lost most of his quality by not being moderated. Furthermore i was talking about a second thread which means anyone would be free to enjoy the bs talk here. I m sure not many would do so. Trust me I saw what trolls did to the old unmoderated BlackCoin thread. It was literally flooded with sockpuppet accounts on every page spreading FUD. As soon the topic switched to moderated and the trolls saw their posts getting deleted the topic became readable again. I'd rather not see it happen though. It took a few weeks of trolling before BC team folded and made it self-moderated, so lets see what happens here. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet
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on: May 29, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
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Guys, I'm sure you will find it interesting when you view the max history chart for DRK on mintpal and highlight from the 24th April to 4th may. Striking similarity. Harder dump on xc but way stronger FUD attack which shows in the chart. Hold and be happy  Seriously I could almost doff my cap to the DRK manipulators for their well organised FUD campaign to try and smear XC. Their official twitter account posting that BS and the unfounded posts on here, caused the price to drop 75% in 30 minutes. They are very scared. DRK dropped from 25k to 11k because of XC. If XC fulfills it's promises it will BLOW DRK OUT OF THE WATER. People who don't read the forums are probably confused as hell though what has happened. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet
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on: May 29, 2014, 01:40:27 PM
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I'll invest when the dev delivers something that isn't just a Fedoracoin copy (centralized mixer).
Stop spreading blatant lies and FUD. After your DRK twitter account spread that BS it caused the price to crash, unfairly costing innocent investors money. I urge those people not to panic. From the dev: lol fud
I have never said anything bad about drk and neither has the dev. We have always respected them. In my personal opinion they have gone to far spreading this on their official twitter. I expect trolls to spread fud but not the official Darkcoin twitter, that is just low.
Yup - So tomorrow - XC will provide a glimpse into it's code for people to reviewplease be careful about what to show so that other coins cannot copy the critical information in the code, thx. can not agree more otherwise xc can be cloned the day after tomorrow Orz... # How about we organize a peer review for the code that has been developed?
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet
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on: May 29, 2014, 01:29:15 PM
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If I could sum up what happened in the last 24 hrs is everyone hyped this up like this was an almost completed coin and are now shocked to find it is still in the preliminary stages. Maybe if people would listen to the dev's own words where he admitted days ago this is a BASIC mixer function we wouldn't have people freaking out.
Buy the coin based on the dev, not on how far along it is.
How do Darkcoin owners feel such a basic coin already offers more privacy? Does DRK even encrypt anything like XC does? DRK will be in big trouble in the next month with the decentralised xnodes coming out. DRK holders have their head in the sand. People are complaining that DRK send and the masternodes aren't working and everyone just glosses over it hoping the dev will sort it out. It's a sign of DRK's desperation that their twitter tries to smear XC about being a Fedora clone which is complete bs. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet
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on: May 29, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
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I collated these points from the developer of things to look forward to in the future, to build upon our already solid foundation: The mixer technology will be multi-path across a cluster of xnodes which runs over the encrypted protocol, so it won't be a central server, it would be similar to a distributed cluster, and the data is encapsulated inside that encrypted tunnel to prevent off-the wire sniffing (or off-the-air* for the mobile platform)... DRK didn't "invent" supernodes or the concept, and while some of concepts are similar and/or overlap, we are on a different path than DRK and as we refine the platform, it will be clear why our design, implementation and infrastructure is superior as we will have autonomous supernodes using PKI that can scale up and out to become a distributed anonymous application platform This is why the multi-path paradigm network I built back in 2005 still functions to do this day and scaled up to meet the demands of 2014... think back to 2005, granted we had the internet, but not the mobile technology - and that is a key part of my background is mobility that will be leveraged in the android anonymous POS wallet( http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/385.pdfhttp://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1208/1208.3022.pdf) (The principles for this concept come from a design that I originally leveraged back in 2005,[multi-path paradigm] the system still runs to do this day handling 50k to 100k users per day ) If your waiting for NSA proof anonymity - well that is the goal of our REV 2 release..No, mixing is only part of it, XC now contains a completely new transaction protocol layer that is encrypted and will be leveraged as a platform for all sorts of concepts.... and it will leverage multi-path paradigm topology (which again is a custom developed concept based on dual-path paradigm)So mixing is just the first application to run on top of this new protocol........ Don't want this key point to get lost --- mixing is just the first application, the list is long and the potential is huge, and since the foundation has been built and deployed, it is now time to build on that foundation.... with some revolutionary concepts and idea's..... Also the infrastructure for this will support numerous other applications, such as encrypted messaging, P2P exchange..etc granted we can only develop new features so fast, but we are putting the foundation for a multi-use, multi-purpose platform |
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on: May 29, 2014, 12:38:42 AM
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I collated these points from the developer of things to look forward to in the future, to build upon our already solid foundation: The mixer technology will be multi-path across a cluster of xnodes which runs over the encrypted protocol, so it won't be a central server, it would be similar to a distributed cluster, and the data is encapsulated inside that encrypted tunnel to prevent off-the wire sniffing (or off-the-air* for the mobile platform)... DRK didn't "invent" supernodes or the concept, and while some of concepts are similar and/or overlap, we are on a different path than DRK and as we refine the platform, it will be clear why our design, implementation and infrastructure is superior as we will have autonomous supernodes using PKI that can scale up and out to become a distributed anonymous application platform This is why the multi-path paradigm network I built back in 2005 still functions to do this day and scaled up to meet the demands of 2014... think back to 2005, granted we had the internet, but not the mobile technology - and that is a key part of my background is mobility that will be leveraged in the android anonymous POS wallet( http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/385.pdfhttp://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1208/1208.3022.pdf) (The principles for this concept come from a design that I originally leveraged back in 2005,[multi-path paradigm] the system still runs to do this day handling 50k to 100k users per day ) If your waiting for NSA proof anonymity - well that is the goal of our REV 2 release..No, mixing is only part of it, XC now contains a completely new transaction protocol layer that is encrypted and will be leveraged as a platform for all sorts of concepts.... and it will leverage multi-path paradigm topology (which again is a custom developed concept based on dual-path paradigm)So mixing is just the first application to run on top of this new protocol........ Don't want this key point to get lost --- mixing is just the first application, the list is long and the potential is huge, and since the foundation has been built and deployed, it is now time to build on that foundation.... with some revolutionary concepts and idea's..... Also the infrastructure for this will support numerous other applications, such as encrypted messaging, P2P exchange..etc granted we can only develop new features so fast, but we are putting the foundation for a multi-use, multi-purpose platform |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures
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on: May 29, 2014, 12:36:07 AM
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I posted a couple of days ago about whether anyone has thoughts on changing the block reward. There were quite a few replies of which the majority agreed with me in some sense. I only recall 2 people being against it, one being smooth.
If I was in a minority I wouldn't have posted about it again.
I believe I said at the time, my question is for selfish reasons as it's benefits early holders. Clarification at to whether there's any flexibility in changing the coin reward allows me to better decide how to manage my investment.
I explained to you that there is zero flexibility on this, aside from the long term changes that have already been discussed and disclosed from the start. Manage your investment accordingly. But who are you to say there is zero flexibility? Shouldn't the community decide? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures
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on: May 29, 2014, 12:29:11 AM
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I posted a couple of days ago about whether anyone has thoughts on changing the block reward. There were quite a few replies of which the majority agreed with me in some sense. I only recall 2 people being against it, one being smooth.
If I was in a minority I wouldn't have posted about it again.
I believe I said at the time, my question is for selfish reasons as it's benefits early holders. Clarification at to whether there's any flexibility in changing the coin reward allows me to better decide how to manage my investment.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures
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on: May 28, 2014, 11:53:52 PM
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Has there been any more thought about lowering the daily amount of MRO produced?
Seemed that there was a number of people for that idea and only a couple against it.
Im all for it Am i the only one who sees no problem with the current block reward? LTC creates 28800 LTC per day and that for YEARS before it goes down. Their price is way above ours - and holding "stable". We are currently at 23.904 coins per Day, and it gets less and less every day... You simply cant change the total amount of coins after a coin is launched, thats simply cheating in favour of the early adopters and not fair at all, every coin who does that i would consider as a scam. Well XC is 100% mined now and they also reduced the total from 33 million to 5.5 million. And the developer has a premine. No-one seems bothered about it. We also know about DRK's coin distribution. I actually think LTC's coin production is excessive and puts unnecessary downward pressure on price. I wouldn't call their price stable either, it's been downtrending for months both relative to btc and usd. Am i the only one who sees no problem with the current block reward?
No and every one of the devs agree with you. It won't be changed. The way to make the coin go up in value is to make it more useful, not tinkering with parameters. Create services using it. So basically the devs control the coin despite what people say. Sounds good. I bought in cheap so I'm not hugely bothered. Just trying to determine whether to stay in this for the long haul or exit. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet
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on: May 28, 2014, 10:26:23 PM
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The distribution in that coin is sick. There are bagholders with 200-300k bragging in the forum. What are people expecting when buying? At market cap of >10mn has to top at some point. Some of the fundamentals are there (dev seems qualified) and some seem lacking and that's not good because it'll attract attention that it doesn't want to. "oh, so what? you are just a centralized mixer... that's not very anonymous". The only thing that exists is a basic mixer like DarkSend pre-alpha status - and even this is controlled with cmd, not gui. The rest are "in development" for 3weeks / a month ahead+. It's not decentralized btw. Decentralization is a future plan (rev 2.0) as is strong anonymity (aiming NSA-proof levels). Of course, even the current implementation is closed-source for obvious reasons (=>avoiding copycats). The "sugar" in the implementation is the network expertise of the dev to add encrypted communication - something that DarkSend has plans for. The application platform through the network and its supernodes are stuff like encrypted messaging systems built-in with the wallet - which might even extend to mobile devices. Essentially the dev is giving a vote of confidence to the DRK model by adopting a lot of its aspects (on paper at least - because in implementation its not done) but doing the POS spinoff to be "first POS anon" and spicing it up with network encryption. Competition is good because it allows better focus on the job at hand. The anonymous / private market will have a good marketcap, so there is plenty of room for clones, imitators, spinoffs, new entrants, second/third generation coins with anonymity etc. If even 10% of the transactions go private/anonymous, we are talking about a market of 700mn marketcap shared between anon coins. We are running close to 1% of the transparent market right now (all anon coins combined) and that with problems (BCN & clones) and projects in development (DRK, X11coin etc). There's much more to come I believe for the whole market, but every single solution must mature. lmao@ Darkcoin shills getting mad their instamined shitcoin dies. I'm hoping every single coin on the market does great. I have all of them but I'm not pretending any of them is perfect. The price is running ahead of the fundamentals. Not really. DRK is tanking, XC is rising. It's quite obvious that the market is dumping their DRK for XC as they recognise it's a superior protocol with greater future prospects. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: May 28, 2014, 10:17:43 PM
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This is exactly what happened to Blackcoin and WHitecoin. XC is the new Whitecoin - a complete and utter rip off, a shameful clone to snag the greedy - Look where Whitecoin is now....
XC offers encrypted transactions. And the coming xnodes will be clustered and completely decentralised... no master node type structure. I collated these points from the XC developer of things to look forward to in the future, to build upon our already solid foundation: The mixer technology will be multi-path across a cluster of xnodes which runs over the encrypted protocol, so it won't be a central server, it would be similar to a distributed cluster, and the data is encapsulated inside that encrypted tunnel to prevent off-the wire sniffing (or off-the-air* for the mobile platform)... DRK didn't "invent" supernodes or the concept, and while some of concepts are similar and/or overlap, we are on a different path than DRK and as we refine the platform, it will be clear why our design, implementation and infrastructure is superior as we will have autonomous supernodes using PKI that can scale up and out to become a distributed anonymous application platform This is why the multi-path paradigm network I built back in 2005 still functions to do this day and scaled up to meet the demands of 2014... think back to 2005, granted we had the internet, but not the mobile technology - and that is a key part of my background is mobility that will be leveraged in the android anonymous POS wallet ( http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/385.pdfhttp://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1208/1208.3022.pdf) (The principles for this concept come from a design that I originally leveraged back in 2005,[multi-path paradigm] the system still runs to do this day handling 50k to 100k users per day ) If your waiting for NSA proof anonymity - well that is the goal of our REV 2 release.. No, mixing is only part of it, XC now contains a completely new transaction protocol layer that is encrypted and will be leveraged as a platform for all sorts of concepts.... and it will leverage multi-path paradigm topology (which again is a custom developed concept based on dual-path paradigm)So mixing is just the first application to run on top of this new protocol........ Don't want this key point to get lost --- mixing is just the first application, the list is long and the potential is huge, and since the foundation has been built and deployed, it is now time to build on that foundation.... with some revolutionary concepts and idea's..... Also the infrastructure for this will support numerous other applications, such as encrypted messaging, P2P exchange..etc granted we can only develop new features so fast, but we are putting the foundation for a multi-use, multi-purpose platform You seem to be promoting XC, but your signature is promoting Monero. What one of the two do you prefer? Should i invest in both? I think that they are both good coins and want to expand into these. Monero is the cryptonote coin with the biggest community and their ring signature approach offers greater anonymity baked into their protocol rather DRK's way of bolting it onto the existing Bitcoin protocol. Indeed Evan himself initially wanted to adopt Monero's rings and said this would offer substantially improved privacy. But last I read he had realised the scale of this task (someone who supports DRK will scream about Monero blockchain bloat but really that's not much different that DRK sending transactions through 10 nodes to gain similar levels of privacy). Monero's main problem is it lacks a user friendly wallet GUI and the community infrastructure is obviously behind that of a bitcoin clone which is why Mintpal and Cryptsy haven't taken it on board. XC, I've spoken about already. Economically it offers a great investment because very few new coins are produced via mining now the PoW phase is over. Unlike most coins which face tons of newly mined coins being dumped on the market each day for profit, XC won't suffer from this downward price pressure. Additionally, I see XC blast past the $60 million market cap barrier if things go well in the next 3 weeks. DRK has good qualities and I have a lot of respect for the DRK community. I believe all privacy centric coins will fare well in the coming months. |
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