Crosspost from the other wc-thread, because I think it needs to be said:

Yes, there are problems. No, they won't kill wc. Yes, there are rough times ahead but we will overcome this problems. wc is an orphant, thrown in a dog-eat-dog-world of batteling cryptos with no mercy and zero tolerance for errors and a lot of people who religiously fight for their coin of belief. But the ones who survive this are worth it. They got tested. They were hated and were doomed to fail but - over time - stood their ground.

I bought a lot of Doge at 20 sat when everybody said "I'ts dead." - because it was obvious the community was (and is) worth so much more. This is the same thing. It's not as big as doge, obviously, but it got the interest of many crypto-related people. It's the people that believed in wc who are leading the way now, nobody would fight in a shitstorm like this if it wasn't for the greater good. Not everybody is in it for the money, but of course, we should rally to fund their hard work after the dust settled. Because the people who are working right now for wc deserve it.

And I know my opinion might be unsupported by some traders but I think for a great future of crypto, battles like this have to be fought and won while crypto is evolving into something new. Think of evolution, it's perfectionism by failure and only the strong survive. wc has already shown that it has a lot of supporters in all crypto-related areas. It IS strong, you can't deny it. Even the trolls stopped their trolling and stared at the rising price, at a volume that was under the Top 3 while the wallet was frozen. Just think about that. Yes, it was abandoned by its creator, who left it with a broken code in the dark alleys of cryptotown, but people found it and revived it. And they won't stop now. That's so much more than your generic random-coin. Now, many people seem to have developed empathy for the community behind this coin, because they won't stop fighting for it.

It really is ridiculous how nervous everybody gets when there isn't a 200% rise in the first month. Let it show and let it grow, if you think you're better of with cinni or asia then go ahead and give it a try. I am happy for your wins but if you lose, try to improve the people around your investment, don't jump the next train and leave everything just to make a quick buck. This is just bad for crypto in general and could stop people from investing in new technologies. I know nobody in their right mind would say "Yes!" to this, but I really think this is how we succeed as a whole.

I'm going to give them a couple more days to clear this up. At the bare minimum they need to acknowledge clearly that one party of people were able to acquire safecoins significantly cheaper than the other party of people at the same time. Thus causing BTC investors to realise an instant loss.

so the only way now for MS to fix this is give away enough MS to make this equal, else its probably not going to float well. They need to desam and fast.

One way would be to send a % of BTC back to the BTC addresses to make equal to MSC.  Lets see how legit they are.

This would likely raise the MS value by quite a lot and thus help the whole project

Who keeps dumping insane amounts of coins? People need to BUY AND HOLD. Stop flash selling. Your ruining your own investment. If you want to make a quick 5-10%, good for you. If you think 5-10% return is enough to celebrate, go ahead. Or, hold onto it, and wait 2 week sand you will be up quite a bit more than 5-10%.

Theres only 74 million coins. Im seeing millions of coins dumped each day. If you hold your coins --> less coins on market. With the BC mining pool buying up a few hundred k coins per day, it would litterly take less than a week for your investment to start rising dramatically.


Whales + fools  

BC dumped exactly 9400 satoshi to 3000 in 3 days

Hold up Blackcoin is only a few weeks old. Don't judge it on the performance of the last week.

Coins don't grow upwards indefinitely at 45 degree angle on the price chart   Bitcoin rose and collapsed and drifted many many times.

True long term growth takes time. We should be evaluating every couple of months imo. We've experienced amazing growth that blew us into the top 10 out of nowhere... we can't expect growth like that every week.

This Counterproductive Behavior Must Stop

This was brought to my attention from a concerned member: http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive#.U2DICvldV0x


This is the reason why 99% of all coins eventually fail. People who have never had any marketing and/or business experience are entrusted to maintain a multi-million dollar community project, and they do not have a clue what they are doing. It makes absolutely no sense to comment directly on the article that everyone will see:"the march on Wallstreet is not officially sponsored or endorsed by Blackcoin Foundation". We got a reputable news website to write about the event in less than 3 hours after announcing the event, and the "official" response from the development team is: "the march on Wallstreet is not officially sponsored or endorsed by Blackcoin Foundation".

Why even comment? This is not a popularity contest, nor is this a game for me. Millions of dollars are at risk and it seems some people here are just concerned about "maintaining control", or worse "popularity".

With all do respect to the dev team but your marketing efforts are not working.

1. You sponsored the Doge event and that had no effect or minimal media attention.
2. You announced the "Meet Black" promotion and that had no effect or media attention.
3. You released an investment package and that had no effect or media attention.
4. We will be added to Vault Of Satoshi, where is the official press release? Why haven't I read about it on CoinDesk?

CoinDesk will finally do a piece on BlackCoin and part of the reason CoinDesk is writing an article on BlackCoin is because of the BlackCoin cards. This is not my assumption, this was expressed by CoinDesk.
The only time Cointelegraph has written about BlackCoin is after the Cryptorush fiasco and now the Wall Street event.

My wife and I, and other active community members hold a hell of a lot of BlackCoins, more than the entire development team combined. So I have every right to propose positive projects that will help BlackCoin grow. So many people are tired and annoyed with this development team, and I am doing my best to keep morale up and convince people publicly and privately to keep supporting BC. So excuse my frustration when the development team makes an asinine public comment that effects the value of BlackCoin.

The only reason why I do not dump my coins and holding strong because I believe in the community, and I think this community will determine the success or failure of BlackCoin. It will not be me or the development team, it will be the community.

I want to make it very clear, it has always been the community.

1. The press release was a combined effort of the community, and it would not have happened if everyone didn't chip in.
2. BlackCoin would not have been added to CoinKite if the community didn't raise the money.
3. BlackCoin would not have been added to the Vault Of Satoshi if we all didn't email and Tweet the hell out of them.
4. Moolah would not have added BlackCoin to all of their services if we all didn't trade on their platform.
5. We would not have BlackCoin cards if some members didn't take a risk and have a little trust.
 
The Wall Street event and any other project will not succeed unless this community is behind it. BlackCoin is the community and it belongs to the community. It does not belong to one person or the development team. Because if every community member decided to move on, all BlackCoin would be is just a bunch of 1s & 0s. The community gives BlackCoin value.....

now this is more like it people,,,

more constructive ideas rather than bitching. the more minds we have working the more great ideas we will have. much better than just moaning and damaging us

Price was lower than Bitcoin to MaidSafecoin IPO, not the Mastercoin to MaidSafecoin IPO.

0.00002 was apparently higher than the IPO for Mastercoin users.

So the only losers are the people who put Bitcoin into MaidSafecoin.

Hi guys,

first of all, im not trying to spread fud here. I love blackcoin and im one of the top 10 holders. Not planning to leave anytime soon.

I feel like sending some BC to Iconicexpert. However, for some reason I find it still difficult to send a random person my cash. Im not saying Iconicexpert is a bad person, but I think its reasonable to stay alert in this cryptoworld.

I know he has been arranging more stuff and is known as a good person for Blackcoin, creating the Blackcoincard for an example (goodjob on that btw). On the other hand I haven't really seen anything yet besides some crazy shouting on this forum and some blackcoincard pictures. Anyone could buy those printed cards at a local store for 50 bucks making an attempt to increase the Blackcoin hype/pump the price and dump his bag.


Again, im not trying to spread fud here and I truely respect the work being done by this community, including Iconicexpert. Im just trying to see this from a neutral point of few.

In my life I have seen lots of "media/attentionwhoring pump/dump" hypes before. And I cant tell yet if this is another one of those hypes to increase the price.

As being as honest as possible here. The guy is asking strangers for 10.000 $. This is really alot of money, and I would hate to see if my few hundred dollar donation go to a guy that's just spreading "fake" news in order to gain some attention to the market or filling his own pockets.

Iconicexpert, it would be cool if you could show the software your currently creating for the card

Also, a lot of people are day traders... they will jump off this bus for another bus if they think it's going in the fast lane. But equally when we gain momentum they will come rushing in.

It took 2500 btc once to maintain the price at this level. The sellers are almost out of coins. So long as people don't foolishly panic sell at a loss we all win.

Why does BC keeps going down today?
I bought a chunck yesterday mornings