Flat Earth

[BADecker]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics no according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Don't judge?! Every time you get out of bed you make a judgement to do so. You judge people and things all day long. Did the cook make your breakfast well enough? Do your eggs have enough hot sauce on them? Do you need another gulp of water?

Dont judge others because you might be the stupid as well in some sittuation. Firstly judge yourself. Dont talk like if you dont know what im talking about. In other words dont use logical fallacies that if someone is wrong you are right. Thats just wrong. You call yourself a christian and you dont know what Im talking about? Thats bad man. Thats bad.

Jesus said that we are not supposed to judge. But what was He really talking about? When I get judged by Him, I want to be judged as qualified for salvation.

The math for a black hole says that the BH is the size of a point. Points don't have any size. Black Holes don't exist.

It's semantics in part.

Not a black hole. Dont you even know that the official science makes patches that invent dark matter that is way more dense than the rest of the universe for their equations to make sense? In other words - they talk to themselfs - fuck it doesnt make sense there must be something to make sense to all of this - lets just invent shit and call it spooky like dark matter. In all other cases that "calculations" would be called cheating, because in other words they say they are right even if they are wrong.

Qualified for salvation because in a lot of verses Jesus implies he dont listen to the hypocrites. So. Just dont be a hypocrite. Its a plain language I dont know why people struggle to understand this.

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Thats not what flat earthers imply! You dont know their theory and you call them stupid. Thats not very smart. You dont know the problems of your heliocentric model as well and you call it absolute truth I suppose as well. Otherwise you wouldnt be so sure that flat earth must be wrong.

The Bible tells us that all people are liars. So, if I state such, am I a liar when I state it? The point is, everyone states some truth and some lies.

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The standard simple triangulation of the stars with relation to the earth and sun, shows that the earth is a globe, that the sun is roughly 93,000,000 miles from the earth, that the sun is roughly 800,000 miles in diameter. If you add the moon, that the moon is roughly 225,000 miles away, and that its diameter is roughly 2,159 miles.

This stuff is based on simple triangulation that is used everyday by surveyors all over the world. This triangulation is shown to work by using it small scale, and then making actual measurements by ruler or tape measure to see if it is right. In addition to that, complex math shows that this triangulation is accurate.

FE people don't have anything that refutes triangulation. Neither do they have actual small-scale measurements that prove it is wrong. Geometry and calculus that show that standard triangulation it is correct.

Flat earth is false. It is religion if it is believed to be true.

Its imposible to measure by trigonometry the distance to the sun using  the earth as a refference because the sun in bigger than the earth according to official story. We cant use stars as a refference as well as we dont know how far those are either. We could measure the distance to the sun knowing the distance from earth to lets say venus. But in my opinion we dont know that. Official science says we use venus if Im not wrong to make such a calculations.  

Google "how to determine the distance to the sun" to find several different ways to determine the distance to the sun. Many of these use triangulation. With a simple transit and a slightly more powerful telescope, you could with reasonable accuracy do the math yourself.

They dont have to refute something you dont accuratly say how you measure? Are you using the earth, venus and the sun in your triangulation? Or you just heard they do that? Or you dont understand what you are talking about? How do they meassure the distance from earth to venus? Triangulation as well? How? Magic? You know you have to have three defined points to triangulate do you? And two of them must be known.

Nobody has to do anything but die. Why do you suggest that I think someone is required to refute something? As above, Google "how to determine the distance to the sun" to find several different ways to determine the distance to the sun. Most of them use triangulation that surveyors use everyday.

They make the assumption that venus is roughly the same size as the earth because thats what they thought would make sense. Well. That doesnt make it true. If its smaller than they think the sun is relativly closer and if venus is very small the sun is very close.

p.s about your antiintelect position of catholic church im 100% oposed. We can know the truth and we can see if someone is lying dont make assumptions that people are hopelessly dumb. Yes sure. Catholics mostly are, but not all people are catholics. And people are inherently good, but a little messed up by the nefilims and under their influence.

Since you don't provide enough info to explain what you mean by my "antiintelect position of catholic church," there is no way for me to express any opinion about it.

People are hopelessly ignorant about many things. Why? Because some things are very complex, and people don't live long enough to study all things. Because of this, people have to trust other people for many things.

To show you how much you have to trust other people, do you ever walk down the sidewalk? If you do, you have to trust that all the people walking next to you are going to be relatively peaceful like you. Why do you have to trust? Because you don't know at what moment a stranger is going to single you out for attack, and kill you on the spot.

People are NOT inherently good. Their goodness flows from Jesus placing goodness in the hearts of everyone. Goodness flows from Jesus... from God. People are inherently evil.

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[BADecker]

...omissis...

Somebody is still listening this agent provocateur sayings?!?


Best regards.

So, besides FE, what else do you have as your religion?   

[Przemax]

Ive heard only the method with the Venus, Earth, Sun triangle and thats the only method that makes sense to me. Please dont answer me - google shit. I have the impression you dont know what you are talking about and just copy paste stuff.

Ive wrote to you what problem do I see with the "seemingly easy" measuring the distance of the Venus and its size that is assumed.

I dont know how about you but I was told In the bible I was made in the image of the God... Are you implying that God is evil? Nonsense.

[notbatman]

... uNF!
The Bible tells us that all people are liars. So, if I state such, am I a liar when I state it? The point is, everyone states some truth and some lies.
... splooge

I'm fairly certain the the Bible is more specific and pigenholes all the Satanic fags.

[mgauffin]

omg still belive in this ? you have nasa lol

[BADecker]

Ive heard only the method with the Venus, Earth, Sun triangle and thats the only method that makes sense to me. Please dont answer me - google shit. I have the impression you dont know what you are talking about and just copy paste stuff.

Ive wrote to you what problem do I see with the "seemingly easy" measuring the distance of the Venus and its size that is assumed.

I dont know how about you but I was told In the bible I was made in the image of the God... Are you implying that God is evil? Nonsense.

Google isn't an authority on triangulation. I mention it because you can use Google to find many people and websites that are an authority on triangulation.

Since triangulation is rather simple, especially if you have access to trig tables or a trig calculator, sounds like you would rather remain in math ignorance. You could use trig math, if you wanted, which has been proven out by actual, physical measurements.

As for Venus, some of the websites that can be found if you Google them, are websites that explain how to find the distance to Venus through trig triangulation.

You forgot the little part where people sinned, and thereby threw away the image of God. Imagine a sculptor making a statue of a beautiful woman. The statue is made in her image. Then, if someone disfigures the statue, it is corruption. It is no longer in the image of the woman, even though it is still similar in some ways.

Adam and Eve corrupted the image of God within themselves. Because we are all the children of Adam and Eve, we are corrupted, as well.

Jesus, having been made directly by the Spirit of God, bypassed the corruption. He applies the goodness of God to people. If He didn't, people would only be corrupt.

[BADecker]

... uNF!
The Bible tells us that all people are liars. So, if I state such, am I a liar when I state it? The point is, everyone states some truth and some lies.
... splooge

I'm fairly certain the the Bible is more specific and pigenholes all the Satanic fags.

https://i.imgur.com/bqCgZH5.jpg

Perhaps you have an example with an explanation of what you mean?

[BADecker]

Ive heard only the method with the Venus, Earth, Sun triangle and thats the only method that makes sense to me. Please dont answer me - google shit. I have the impression you dont know what you are talking about and just copy paste stuff.

Ive wrote to you what problem do I see with the "seemingly easy" measuring the distance of the Venus and its size that is assumed.

I dont know how about you but I was told In the bible I was made in the image of the God... Are you implying that God is evil? Nonsense.

From http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/5192/how-is-distance-between-sun-and-earth-calculated:

The most precise measures of this distance are from radars in the 1960s. However, the distance has been known, though roughly, since the Ancient Times.

Aristarchus of Samos (310BC - 230BC) used the angle between the Earth-Moon axis and the Earth-Sun when the Moon is in First Quarter (elongation of the Moon, E ) and then, with simple trigonometry, could deduce the distances:

cosE=distance(Earth-Moon)/distance(Earth-Sun)

Since he had already computed the Earth-Moon distance from the duration of lunar eclipses, he could conclude on the Earth-Sun distance. His results were false, because of too loose measure of the angle, but his method was very accurate. See Wikipedia for more details.

Another method was explored in 1672 by Cassini and Richer: they measured the parallax (i.e. the variation in angle when seen from different places) under which Mars was seen in Cayenne and Paris, at the moment of opposition. From this, they deduced the distance Earth-Mars. Then, using the Kepler law

a³/p²=constant
(where a is the distance between the planet and the Sun, and p the sideral time)

they could figure out what was the distance to the Sun.

[Longsnowsm]

And the poo just keeps getting deeper.  So I went digging around for references to "the universe" in a bible.  I kept hitting a concrete wall.  All signs point to the Greek work Kosmos as the reference used for "the universe".  However in the bible the context is not the universe.  The word is translated world.  Also broader understanding is that which was organized, made, created.  So never any reference to "the universe".  I will spare you the copy/paste from Strongs and other references to this word and it's use.  Pull out eSword and look it up. 

So I did some more digging and find that the first person known to publicly associate the Greek word Kosmos or at least acknowledged to do so is Pythagoras!  So we get this "extension" of meaning of kosmos to "universe" from this guy who is the father of many occult philosophies and ideas, numerology, Kabala, and basically took credit for real science and math that was being done in India and Egypt a long time before the Greeks.  Then he starts his own cult in Greece.... What a piece of work.  And this guy is the one who has planted this "idea" that kosmos meant universe in your bible???  The poo just keeps getting deeper.

What wonderful endorsement Albert Pike the founder of Freemasonry gave this clown... If there was any question about Freemasonry and the occult this should help wipe away those illusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AdtSF-TpB0

[BADecker]

And the poo just keeps getting deeper.  So I went digging around for references to "the universe" in a bible.  I kept hitting a concrete wall.  All signs point to the Greek work Kosmos as the reference used for "the universe".  However in the bible the context is not the universe.  The word is translated world.  Also broader understanding is that which was organized, made, created.  So never any reference to "the universe".  I will spare you the copy/paste from Strongs and other references to this word and it's use.  Pull out eSword and look it up. 

So I did some more digging and find that the first person known to publicly associate the Greek word Kosmos or at least acknowledged to do so is Pythagoras!  So we get this "extension" of meaning of kosmos to "universe" from this guy who is the father of many occult philosophies and ideas, numerology, Kabala, and basically took credit for real science and math that was being done in India and Egypt a long time before the Greeks.  Then he starts his own cult in Greece.... What a piece of work.  And this guy is the one who has planted this "idea" that kosmos meant universe in your bible???  The poo just keeps getting deeper.

What wonderful endorsement Albert Pike the founder of Freemasonry gave this clown... If there was any question about Freemasonry and the occult this should help wipe away those illusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AdtSF-TpB0

Well, probably you should bang your head against that concrete wall until you start to understand that God is the one who controls what is in His Word. His idea wasn't to make His Word line up with all the thinking of all the Pythagoras's and Albert Pike's in the world. His idea was to provide the information that people need to be saved.

'Bout time you go back and read what the Bible has to say. Start at the New Testament, because it is for the people of today. Might even be that YOU will find eternal life.

[Przemax]

Badecker. Ive asked you simple questions. What are the points used for trigonometry to calculate the distance to the venus. You fail me to deliver that answer even though you say its all easy to understand. Actualy not easy enough for you. And why cant you admitt they calculate the distance to the sun using the venus earth and the sun. You just say many ways. What many ways. In other words what points of refference? Why do you make mumbo jumbo to make you seem more intelligent than you are?

May your words be simple yes meaning yes no meaning no.

And people are corrupted because they sewered the direct connection to the holy spirit. Thats what the convenant is used to make the connection once again. People are lost not evil. They can be evil and good. As Isaiah was trying to tell people the truth they didnt knew the difference between the good and the evil and they mixed things up. Does that mean that a human is evil? No he is just lost. People just reject the holy spirit for guidance. We have all the guidance we need to combat evil - the new convenant.

You see? You are evil here because you dont use the guidance of holy spirit. Use simple language. But that doesnt mean you are inherently evil as you cant use simple language can you? You would be beyond hope if you would be a pathological liar for example aka inherently evil.

You say all about salvation like if thats the most important. Jesus says those who want to save their life will lose it those who will lose will gain it. Dont spew shit about salvation again and again. Thats just bad. If you only talk and talk and talk and say Jesus this and Jesus that without doing the guidance of the spirit or understand his words he could say he does not know you.

Thats why I hate catholics. They only do things because they want to save their asses by pretending someone they are not........... They dont even fear God... they want to use him as a fucking Ticket spewing shit all the time about the Salvation this Salvation that. Undestand the word not say shit that priest have told like a parrot.

[BADecker]

Badecker. Ive asked you simple questions. What are the points used for trigonometry to calculate the distance to the venus. You fail me to deliver that answer even though you say its all easy to understand. Actualy not easy enough for you. And why cant you admitt they calculate the distance to the sun using the venus earth and the sun. You just say many ways. What many ways. In other words what points of refference? Why do you make mumbo jumbo to make you seem more intelligent than you are?

What are you even talking about? I never said anything about Venus except that some of the Google sites talk about Venus. Am I your reference calculator?

The standard distance calculation for the planets is done by radar these days. Once we know the distance to the planets, triangulation with many or any of the planets can give you the distance to the Sun.

May your words be simple yes meaning yes no meaning no.

I agree. Yes means yes and no means no. What does this have to do with anything?

And people are corrupted because they sewered the direct connection to the holy spirit. Thats what the convenant is used to make the connection once again. People are lost not evil. They can be evil and good. As Isaiah was trying to tell people the truth they didnt knew the difference between the good and the evil and they mixed things up. Does that mean that a human is evil? No he is just lost. People just reject the holy spirit for guidance. We have all the guidance we need to combat evil - the new convenant.

Jesus suffered great pain and death, even though He was the Son of God. Why? Because that is what it took to turn the evil in mankind into something acceptable before God.

The evil is still here. It simply has been adapted to the righteousness of Jesus. Because of what people are, faith in Jesus salvation is the only way to not lose the adaptation at death.

[Przemax]

Jesus suffered great pain and death, even though He was the Son of God. Why? Because that is what it took to turn the evil in mankind into something acceptable before God.

The evil is still here. It simply has been adapted to the righteousness of Jesus. Because of what people are, faith in Jesus salvation is the only way to not lose the adaptation at death.

Are you stupid or are you purposefuly ignoring the working of the Enemy? He died for our sins because of the Enemy and his servants. And because of that alone.

How can you say such an ignorant shit ignoring the reason why Jesus have came? To gave us sword against the Enemy? Why do you say we naturally are with the Enemy? Why do say that Badecker? Are you beyond salvation with your lack of knowledghe?

Quote from: Przemax on Today at 04:55:47 AM
Badecker. Ive asked you simple questions. What are the points used for trigonometry to calculate the distance to the venus. You fail me to deliver that answer even though you say its all easy to understand. Actualy not easy enough for you. And why cant you admitt they calculate the distance to the sun using the venus earth and the sun. You just say many ways. What many ways. In other words what points of refference? Why do you make mumbo jumbo to make you seem more intelligent than you are?
What are you even talking about? I never said anything about Venus except that some of the Google sites talk about Venus. Am I your reference calculator?

The standard distance calculation for the planets is done by radar these days. Once we know the distance to the planets, triangulation with many or any of the planets can give you the distance to the Sun.

mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo. You change the subject now its the radar.... The radar was invented like in XIX century and they use it in 1961 to meassure the distance. Thats a preatty non obvious way to meassure things dont you think? Everyone who knows something about radar knows its shitty to meassure stuff without the very complicated equations. Im 100% sure they invent stuff in their equations as they do all the time. And it took them a lot of time. Why they did that in sixties? Thats when the cover up began. What did they saw that they want to tell us?

[BADecker]

Jesus suffered great pain and death, even though He was the Son of God. Why? Because that is what it took to turn the evil in mankind into something acceptable before God.

The evil is still here. It simply has been adapted to the righteousness of Jesus. Because of what people are, faith in Jesus salvation is the only way to not lose the adaptation at death.

Are you stupid or are you purposefuly ignoring the working of the Enemy? He died for our sins because of the Enemy and his servants. And because of that alone.

How can you say such an ignorant shit ignoring the reason why Jesus have came? To gave us sword against the Enemy? Why do you say we naturally are with the Enemy? Why do say that Badecker? Are you beyond salvation with your lack of knowledghe?

In what way did Jesus die for our sins because of the enemy and his servants? What does that mean. Can you explain it?

Jesus died to reconcile us to God. WE were the ones who became enemies of God through our willful sinning. Because of what Jesus did - His sacrifice on the cross whereby He took the punishment for our sins - we are all as though we were not enemies of God in this life. However, those of us who are still against God, will lose the appearance of not being enemies when we die.

The only way is to believe that Jesus died for us, and that it is His perfection that is being applied to us, that is saving us.

[Przemax]

In what way did Jesus die for our sins because of the enemy and his servants? What does that mean. Can you explain it?

They kiilled him as every other prophet of the God? Its plain language in the bible. Fucking catholic moron.

[BADecker]

In what way did Jesus die for our sins because of the enemy and his servants? What does that mean. Can you explain it?

They kiilled him as every other prophet of the God? Its plain language in the bible. Fucking catholic moron.

They killed Him because He and His Father allowed them to. Without that allowance, they would have no strength at all.

From Matthew 26:53 (NIV):

Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

[notbatman]

One question raised over and over on the internet is:

   why would they lie?



The answer is it makes human trafficking easier if the subjects mind (you), is convinced that the total fantasy world they're presented with by the unburdened merchant corporations, educational systems, mass media and the crown is for real. The subject (you) is kept within a model of reality that is limited and broken cut off from the vast potential life has to offer.




Man being crushed by globalism

[BADecker]

One question raised over and over on the internet is:

   why would they lie?



The answer is it makes human trafficking easier if the subjects mind (you), is convinced that the total fantasy world they're presented with by the unburdened merchant corporations, educational systems, mass media and the crown is for real. The subject (you) is kept within a model of reality that is limited and broken cut off from the vast potential life has to offer.




Man being crushed by globalism

This is a good answer. I can see where FE people want to get in on some of the human trafficking plunder.

[anarchrist]

wow.. this thread is still alive? dear god why?!

[Przemax]

In what way did Jesus die for our sins because of the enemy and his servants? What does that mean. Can you explain it?

They kiilled him as every other prophet of the God? Its plain language in the bible. Fucking catholic moron.

They killed Him because He and His Father allowed them to. Without that allowance, they would have no strength at all.

From Matthew 26:53 (NIV):

Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

So? There are an enoumerous passages of defeating the angel of death - the enemy by ressurecting. So yeah the angel of death is rather important here dont you think?

Youve just said oh he wasnt saved. Well...... fucking duh?

You were telling me its because of the people. No it was not because of the people. It was because the reign of the earth was of Satan and he was to be defeated first. Can you read? Or are you just listening to the popes?

And it was all due to the death of the John the Baptist. After his death the Satan was free to reign. You can deduce that by the evil spirit returning to the places of the sin. Jesus was avoiding danger every time the John was still alive.

Im not to argue with you about what you read and what you not read. Youve asked stupid question so you have a stupid answer. But if you say people are inherently evil without Jesus Christ, I can say that I know a lot of atheists that I consider amazingly good people and I know many so called christian that are totally fucked up evil sonofabitches. So what you say is a total rubbish, and thats why people go away from God because of people like them who talk the talk but not walk the walk.

Its all becuase of all those religions calling themself christians are not listening to what Jesus have said. Its very very very sad. You should not call anyone outside of a creator a father, they do. You should pray alone and in silence, they dont and so on and on and on the list of sins against the Jesus Christ is endless.......

Aristarchus of Samos (310BC - 230BC) used the angle between the Earth-Moon axis and the Earth-Sun when the Moon is in First Quarter (elongation of the Moon, E ) and then, with simple trigonometry, could deduce the distances:

cosE=distance(Earth-Moon)/distance(Earth-Sun)

Wasnt that the same guy that worshipped the Helios - Baal? The first greek that invented Heliocentrism and the ones that was laughed at with his nonsense? His equation has two unknown variables and its one equation (distance to the moon and the sun). Its logicly wrong. But what to expect from the servant of Nimrod and Ishtar.