Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[Moloch]

Does it have to be mentioned again that there is no measurable evidence for religion/God?

yes , there is no god no heaven no saving by jesus.. we are in the real world not in a delusional heaven..

Ok, and yet you ask of community to provide one for you. So what do you want to hear.

Now let me tell you what I want to hear:

Give me PROOF and EVIDENCE that atheism(which you are so eagerly preaching) is ACCURATE and CORRECT. Just ONE proof and i will be the first one to became a true atheist.

Atheism is not a religion, or a claim... it is a rejection of your claim that God exists

Christians made a claim... "God exists, and he is just like is says in this book here"... Atheists read the book, and dispute this claim for lack of foundation/evidence


It's as simple as, "We don't believe you"... what is there to prove?

I did not ask you to define atheism, I know what atheism is. Give me only one proof and evidence that will prove it 100% accurate and correct.

Let me help you.
Actually the quickest way to destroy my faith in God would be to show a naturalistic mechanism for resurrection of the dead.  Then Christ's resurrection, which is the center of our faith, would be nothing special at all.
Of course people can't pop out of graves randomly.  But God can raise people from the dead easily enough. But even that he has no obligation to do that. Your time here is measured, your days are numbered, remember that.
  

Nobody ever resurrected from the dead... not even Jesus... in fact, Jesus never existed at all

Have you ever heard of a non-biblical account of anyone rising from the dead?  One that is verifiable, not some silly voodoo story?  Dead people stay dead... sorry

[exemplaar]

Let me tell you The Truth:

Jesus, the LORD and KING not only that HE exist, He rose from the dead 2000 years ago that you may have life and yet you are now rejecting that? Think.

Why rejecting the Lord of all things, the beginning and the end. Where is your profit in that. There is none.

And yes, i have heard of non biblical accounts. He that has a power over death can also raise from the dead.

BTW, do you know what is the future destiny of a person you have in your nickname?  

[Moloch]

BTW, do you know what is the future destiny of a person you have in your nickname?  

[exemplaar]

First to the spirit realm then obviously to you aka m_l_ch or whatever fan you are of.

Where is your sense of eternity, let me post a song for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM_rQmF8Q-M&list=RDwkScq3OveAw&index=10






 

[Moloch]

First to the spirit realm then obviously to you aka m_l_ch or whatever fan you are of.

Where is your sense of eternity, let me post a song for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM_rQmF8Q-M

Christian metal... now that's amusing... is there anything Christians won't try these days?



Allen Ginsberg - Moloch (from Howl movie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nonab6djMAA

They broke their backs lifting Moloch to heaven...

[exemplaar]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

[Moloch]

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

At least I can spell loser...

[organofcorti]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him.

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You say this thing, but I don't hear any proof. Can you prove this assertion?

[mrflibblehat]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

[Moloch]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

[Moloch]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.

You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

[eon89]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.

You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

[Moloch]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.

You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

[eon89]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.

You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

Is there one?

[Moloch]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.

You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

Is there one?

I asked you first 

[eon89]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.

You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

Is there one?

I asked you first 

Well, the problem is that I'm not sure I care anymore. If they want to convince themselves about certain ideas from a book, then go right ahead. I'll keep my objective, rational mind, and use it as I see fit.

[BADecker]

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.

You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

cause and effect.  But check with BSDecker, he is a guru on causes and effects.

Nope. BADecker isn't a guru on cause and effect. BADecker simply knows that Newton's 3rd Law substantiates cause and effect in everything.

God exists, and the science He created proves it.

[valta4065]

You said carbon datation was not correct. Carbon datation has been made not 1500, but hundreds of thousands of times. And you're saying all those experiments are wrong.

Wrong? I don't know that "wrong" is a good word for this. Rather, inconclusive. Why? For at least two strong reasons:
1. There have been plenty of times that C-dating has given conflicting results, as reported on right in this thread;
2. Nobody knows what C-14 content was like in the past, beyond what we can date through other methods.

In other words, if we have used a "pottery" dating system to show that something is, say, 4,000 years old, we can examine the object for C-14, and determine what the C-14 results are for that object. The flaw in the C-14 dating system is to think that everything in the world follows that exact, same pattern, and that anything before that 4,000 years follows the C-14 pattern of that 4,000-y-o item at all. We don't know for sure. Good guesses, maybe. But entirely inconclusive. The point is, we don't know at all how old the earth is from C-14. Other evidence suggests that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. The best written record, the Bible, suggests that the earth is well under 10,000 years old.

Please, help me, I'm dying of BD stupidity ><

I don't even know what to say. You're actually suggesting that the whole radioactivity mechanism changed without any reason like 3 000 years ago? Cause that's the only way C-14 could be so wrong!

[valta4065]

Nope. BADecker isn't a guru on cause and effect. BADecker simply knows that Newton's 3rd Law substantiates cause and effect in everything.

God exists, and the science He created proves it.

Nope BSEcker can't even look at a definition like entropy, completely misunderstand the meaning of those very precise words and use the laws (that apply only to the CORRECT definition) like it was normal.

It's like if I says 2+2=4 we all agree. Well now if I say that 2 is the same as 3, it means that 3+2=4. Why can't you see the truth? 3+2=4 it's obvious you just refuse it!

[organofcorti]

Nope. BADecker isn't a guru on cause and effect. BADecker simply knows that Newton's 3rd Law substantiates cause and effect in everything.

God exists, and the science He created proves it.

Nope BSEcker can't even look at a definition like entropy, completely misunderstand the meaning of those very precise words and use the laws (that apply only to the CORRECT definition) like it was normal.

It's like if I says 2+2=4 we all agree. Well now if I say that 2 is the same as 3, it means that 3+2=4. Why can't you see the truth? 3+2=4 it's obvious you just refuse it!

He does actually attempt to prove that 1 + 1 != 2 earlier on in this thread. Entertaining in it's way, and I'm sure he'll pull out the old "maths is not perfect" chestnut again if you ask him nicely.