Seuntjie' Dice bot programmers mode discussion.

[leewilson]

Hi everyone!

I have modified this script a little bit https://bot.seuntjie.com/scripts.aspx?id=39  However, would it be possible to program the script to automatically change the lossStartMult to 7 or 8 any lower number when the streak of 10 reds happens? Any help will be appreciatted!

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I didn't write the script, so I'm not 100% sure what it does, but you can change lossStartMult = 10 to anything you would like, It looks like it will only increase the next 5 bets regardless what you set that to.  

I must not have comprehended what you were asking..   HCP did much better then I did.  But changing lossStartMult after 10 losses won't do anything.  MaxLosses is already set in the init section, so that won't be changed.

    It would only come into effect the next time you get into a losing streak.  But I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish. 

Thanks everyone for your inputs. What the script does is: bets 0.0000X satoshis (defined on base) and then after a long streak of reds it starts betting. After 10 red streak at 50% chance, it will multiply basebet*100 and then double the bet for 5 more rounds. After the 15 streak red it will multiply not by 2.1 but by 2.5 and chance at 55% until winning.

A 10 red streak is not uncommon, but it takes a lot of hands to happen. My idea is that the script would automatically change the losstartmult to 7-8 for example after achieving a 10 red streak (and winning) because the chance of another 10 red streak in the following (let's say 10,000 hands) are extremely low.

So far i've been  earning profits all the time with the script. Here u have a picture of it, playing at 60% chance and a 6 red streak lossstartmult.



I guess that automatically change the losstrmult after long red streaks are achieved will even make it more profitable.

Is the screenshot you posted using the modifications you previously posted plus the additional change of "playing at 60% chance and a 6 red streak lossstartmult."?

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[ThePassenger]

Yes exactly, it's that modification. Playing at 60% and 6 streak.

[mOgliE]

Hi everyone!

I have modified this script a little bit https://bot.seuntjie.com/scripts.aspx?id=39  However, would it be possible to program the script to automatically change the lossStartMult to 7 or 8 any lower number when the streak of 10 reds happens? Any help will be appreciatted!

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I didn't write the script, so I'm not 100% sure what it does, but you can change lossStartMult = 10 to anything you would like, It looks like it will only increase the next 5 bets regardless what you set that to.  

I must not have comprehended what you were asking..   HCP did much better then I did.  But changing lossStartMult after 10 losses won't do anything.  MaxLosses is already set in the init section, so that won't be changed.

    It would only come into effect the next time you get into a losing streak.  But I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish. 

Thanks everyone for your inputs. What the script does is: bets 0.0000X satoshis (defined on base) and then after a long streak of reds it starts betting. After 10 red streak at 50% chance, it will multiply basebet*100 and then double the bet for 5 more rounds. After the 15 streak red it will multiply not by 2.1 but by 2.5 and chance at 55% until winning.

A 10 red streak is not uncommon, but it takes a lot of hands to happen. My idea is that the script would automatically change the losstartmult to 7-8 for example after achieving a 10 red streak (and winning) because the chance of another 10 red streak in the following (let's say 10,000 hands) are extremely low.

So far i've been  earning profits all the time with the script. Here u have a picture of it, playing at 60% chance and a 6 red streak lossstartmult.



I guess that automatically change the losstrmult after long red streaks are achieved will even make it more profitable.

I'm sorry to break your dreams but...
No. Basically no.
Especially this part: "because the chance of another 10 red streak in the following (let's say 10,000 hands) are extremely low. "
nooooooooooo... Not at all. That's why you're going to lose EVERYTHING. The chance of another 10 red streak in the following are EXACTLY the same as before the red streak...

[ThePassenger]

It might be, but in milllions of hands, i've not seen 2 streaks of 10 reds consecutive plaing at 50%, si i still want to try it that way

[ThePassenger]

and correct me if im wrong, but the chances of 1-2-3-4... red streak are not the same, no?

[AMONRA75]

hi,

it's possible auto restart after stop()...like this?

Code:

if (myprofit >= 0.00001000 ) then
stop()
print('wow')
myprofit = 0
start()     <-----------------------
end

 
 

[seuntjie]

hi,

it's possible auto restart after stop()...like this?

Code:

if (myprofit >= 0.00001000 ) then
stop()
print('wow')
myprofit = 0
start()     <-----------------------
end

 
 

No. If you stop a script, it remains stopped. It should never be necessary to stop a script and restart it.

[AMONRA75]

tnx

but if i want loop a script???

[seuntjie]

tnx

but if i want loop a script???

take a look at this article describing how the programmer mode works: https://steemit.com/dicebot/@seuntjie/dicebot-programmer-mode-tutorial-02-process

[AMONRA75]

tnx a lot!

[AMONRA75]

one more question...
i want print currentprofit but i see this -5E-07  why?

[HCP]

and correct me if im wrong, but the chances of 1-2-3-4... red streak are not the same, no?

The probability for each individual roll is the same (as long as your "chance" is not being modified)... so on a 50% chance, every time you roll, there is a 50% chance you will win.

However, the chance of a streak occurring is a conditional probability, because it needs the previous results to be a specific way for there to a streak in the first place. So your chances of getting say 5 losses in a row on a 50% chance is 0.5^5, whereas 10 losses is 0.5^10.

However, once you are actually IN a streak, the odds that it will end on the next roll are still very much 50%.

probability is fun!

[freemanjackal]

have someone tried some strategy using AI, i think that would be interesting, any one?some prediction algorythm?

[HCP]

one more question...
i want print currentprofit but i see this -5E-07  why?

Because the value is very very small (actually so small it is negative... -0.0000005 ) and being stored as a decimal value I believe, so for nice "round" numbers, it defaults to the "E" format for dsiplay. You can always use something like:

Code:

print("Profit: " .. string.format("%9.8f", currentprofit) )

if you want to force it to display as 0.0000000X...

[seuntjie]

have someone tried some strategy using AI, i think that would be interesting, any one?some prediction algorythm?

Yeah, I've talked to a few people that was planning to use some machine learning or have started using machine learning to do it. I don't see any of them playing anymore, so I assume it failed. Which makes sense, you need data with a structure for machine learning to find a pattern. When trying to predict the outcomes of rolls while playing at 50%, the AI will likely have a success rate or about, oh I don't know, 50%.

one more question...
i want print currentprofit but i see this -5E-07  why?

that's called scientific notation. That means -5 * 10^(-7)

[AMONRA75]

one more question...
i want print currentprofit but i see this -5E-07  why?

Because the value is very very small (actually so small it is negative... -0.0000005 ) and being stored as a decimal value I believe, so for nice "round" numbers, it defaults to the "E" format for dsiplay. You can always use something like:

Code:

print("Profit: " .. string.format("%9.8f", currentprofit) )

if you want to force it to display as 0.0000000X...

tnx a lot! 

[freemanjackal]

have someone tried some strategy using AI, i think that would be interesting, any one?some prediction algorythm?

Yeah, I've talked to a few people that was planning to use some machine learning or have started using machine learning to do it. I don't see any of them playing anymore, so I assume it failed. Which makes sense, you need data with a structure for machine learning to find a pattern. When trying to predict the outcomes of rolls while playing at 50%, the AI will likely have a success rate or about, oh I don't know, 50%.

i was searching about it, it seemed interesting to me, a friend told me to look bayesian networks, i was looking for logistic regression to see if could be a possible solution, its a topic interesting to me, and ill give it a try

[seuntjie]

have someone tried some strategy using AI, i think that would be interesting, any one?some prediction algorythm?

Yeah, I've talked to a few people that was planning to use some machine learning or have started using machine learning to do it. I don't see any of them playing anymore, so I assume it failed. Which makes sense, you need data with a structure for machine learning to find a pattern. When trying to predict the outcomes of rolls while playing at 50%, the AI will likely have a success rate or about, oh I don't know, 50%.

i was searching about it, it seemed interesting to me, a friend told me to look bayesian networks, i was looking for logistic regression to see if could be a possible solution, its a topic interesting to me, and ill give it a try

Good luck with that. Let me know i fyou are able to predict rolls with accuracy significantly higher than your chance of winning.

[K128kevin2]

Are people genuinely making long term profits with this software?
I don't think that there's a way around the house edge, no matter which weird way you gamble.

[ThePassenger]

Hello anyone get profit using this bot program for playing dice games?? i search in google there many people tell, they can get big profit by using bot in dice game.

What you need to understand is that this bot is not a "magic money making device"... It is effectively just like playing Dice on the individual sites manually (or using autobet)... The added value comes from the fact that it allows you to set up a whole bunch of different settings that a lot of sites don't provide and allows you to automate a bunch of more complicated things...

like raise bet for 5 losses, then decrease twice, then increase until bet > X then reset to basebet etc... Or it will allow you to run more complex strategies than a simple martingale, like Labouchere etc...

It isn't some sort of "cheat" or "hack" and there is no guarantee you will win using this bot...

Thanks for your explanation I do understand it. However, is it still possible to program the bot so when a streak of 6 reds happend, and let's stay you win on the 7th, the bot will automatically set the lossstartmult to, let's say, 4?

Maybe seuntjie or some expert programmer might know it? So far i've been playing that way for days and i'm just betting small amounts, so it will need to be a 20'ish red streak at 60% to happen to bust me and it's working pretty well.