Cricket match prediction discussions

[Theones]

It is not Indian issue in every region or country parents want their kids have better education and information about related things, but mindset is completely different which is big issue in West mostly peoples enjoy and have spots in early age and after doing their stint they go to university for higher education as they have some money and enjoy their best part of life after this they are now free for doing things which are important in life but in India age factor is having big impact on life mostly parents want their kids take decision in early age and then surf their life for this which is completely wrong.

I have update about many players after enjoying their young age in sports or their beloved work, they complete study and have their future on way in positive way for this profession.

Well.. I agree that everywhere in the world the parents expect their kids to get a job before it is too late. But in India, the pressure is quite extreme. Especially the boys are supposed to get a job, when they are 24-25 years of age. If they don't get a job by that time, then they will have difficulty in finding a suitable match. And in general, boys get married at the age of 26-27 in India (especially in the North). This means that there is hardly any time for any activity apart from studies. In the western nations this is not the case.

Referring to the movies - 3 idiots - one of the guys who was so upset. There are many case like this in India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.
All these three are fans of cricket as well. And I assume the parents mentality is the same. They just want to pressurize their children - all the time.

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It is not Indian issue in every region or country parents want their kids have better education and information about related things, but mindset is completely different which is big issue in West mostly peoples enjoy and have spots in early age and after doing their stint they go to university for higher education as they have some money and enjoy their best part of life after this they are now free for doing things which are important in life but in India age factor is having big impact on life mostly parents want their kids take decision in early age and then surf their life for this which is completely wrong.

I have update about many players after enjoying their young age in sports or their beloved work, they complete study and have their future on way in positive way for this profession.

Honestly having people who are more educated is a lot more helpful for any country rather than having people who are good at a certain sport. And every parent wants their children to matter in the long run and that's why they want their children to be really educated.

Well.. I agree that everywhere in the world the parents expect their kids to get a job before it is too late. But in India, the pressure is quite extreme. Especially the boys are supposed to get a job, when they are 24-25 years of age. If they don't get a job by that time, then they will have difficulty in finding a suitable match. And in general, boys get married at the age of 26-27 in India (especially in the North). This means that there is hardly any time for any activity apart from studies. In the western nations this is not the case.

And another problem is in India you cannot get a job very easily. You have to know the right people and give them the right amount of money and only then you will be able to get a job. It is not in all cases but mostly this is what happens in India. So the young generation of India finds it really hard to get a job.

[Sithara007]

And another problem is in India you cannot get a job very easily. You have to know the right people and give them the right amount of money and only then you will be able to get a job. It is not in all cases but mostly this is what happens in India. So the young generation of India finds it really hard to get a job.

Being an Indian, I would not agree if you claim that it is quite difficult to get jobs. There are a lot of jobs available, but the parents only want their kids to do white collar jobs. Even high paying jobs such as underwater welding are looked down upon. Farming is a very low prestige job, despite the profitability. And the problem here is that not everyone can be a programmer or an IT worker. Even the profession of a sports coach doesn't have the same prestige as that of a software engineer. But then, IT jobs are in short supply and there is too much competition.

[GigaBit]

The case with Emirates such as Sharjah, Abu Dhabi and Dubai is different from what we have in countries such as Canada and the United States. In the UAE, the ruling class splurge a lot of money in cricket and the huge expat population also supports the activity. But in countries such as the United States, the government agencies are not very enthusiastic about cricket, and the main reason is that cricket is not an Olympic sport. In UAE, they don't care much about revenues and profits, but those in North America don't have that luxury.

Cricket seems to be a game of 3rd world countries

Most of the countries of the world don't accept cricket. But still it is appreciable because people have a strong interest in cricket. We know that this game has already started in several countries as new. Hopefully in the near future more countries will start this game and we will have good cricket.

[laurenB7742]

The case with Emirates such as Sharjah, Abu Dhabi and Dubai is different from what we have in countries such as Canada and the United States. In the UAE, the ruling class splurge a lot of money in cricket and the huge expat population also supports the activity. But in countries such as the United States, the government agencies are not very enthusiastic about cricket, and the main reason is that cricket is not an Olympic sport. In UAE, they don't care much about revenues and profits, but those in North America don't have that luxury.

Cricket seems to be a game of 3rd world countries

Most of the countries of the world don't accept cricket. But still it is appreciable because people have a strong interest in cricket. We know that this game has already started in several countries as new. Hopefully in the near future more countries will start this game and we will have good cricket.

The spread of cricket will not happen unless the ICC takes appropriate action. Western countries are not very interested in cricket. This may be because cricket is playing a whole day long, it may seem like a waste of time to the western people. So I think T10 and T20 should be further expanded to popularize cricket in the West. It is also appropriate to give a chance to the relatively weak teams of the World Cup. Otherwise, these teams will lose interest in cricket.

[Sithara007]

The spread of cricket will not happen unless the ICC takes appropriate action. Western countries are not very interested in cricket. This may be because cricket is playing a whole day long, it may seem like a waste of time to the western people. So I think T10 and T20 should be further expanded to popularize cricket in the West. It is also appropriate to give a chance to the relatively weak teams of the World Cup. Otherwise, these teams will lose interest in cricket.

Kids in Russia or France won't have any interest in cricket, when they see a bunch of Indians and Pakistanis wearing the jersey of Russian or French national teams and competing in tournaments. In order to attract native players, you need to have natives in the squad. Forming national cricket teams entirely of foreigners may enable the ICC to claim that they have 100 or 120 members, but it does a lot of damage to popularity of the game. I don't want to comment on duration anymore. Now we have the T10 format, which gets completed in around 1.5 hours.

[Theones]

The spread of cricket will not happen unless the ICC takes appropriate action. Western countries are not very interested in cricket. This may be because cricket is playing a whole day long, it may seem like a waste of time to the western people. So I think T10 and T20 should be further expanded to popularize cricket in the West. It is also appropriate to give a chance to the relatively weak teams of the World Cup. Otherwise, these teams will lose interest in cricket.

Kids in Russia or France won't have any interest in cricket, when they see a bunch of Indians and Pakistanis wearing the jersey of Russian or French national teams and competing in tournaments. In order to attract native players, you need to have natives in the squad. Forming national cricket teams entirely of foreigners may enable the ICC to claim that they have 100 or 120 members, but it does a lot of damage to popularity of the game. I don't want to comment on duration anymore. Now we have the T10 format, which gets completed in around 1.5 hours.

I believe Cricket is the game of South Asia - there are vert. diehard fans in India and Pakistan. But other countries have their interests and they have other sports of interest. That is correct as mentioned above - Russians and French are not much interested in cricket. What do they play than Soccer?

[laurenB7742]

The spread of cricket will not happen unless the ICC takes appropriate action. Western countries are not very interested in cricket. This may be because cricket is playing a whole day long, it may seem like a waste of time to the western people. So I think T10 and T20 should be further expanded to popularize cricket in the West. It is also appropriate to give a chance to the relatively weak teams of the World Cup. Otherwise, these teams will lose interest in cricket.

Kids in Russia or France won't have any interest in cricket, when they see a bunch of Indians and Pakistanis wearing the jersey of Russian or French national teams and competing in tournaments. In order to attract native players, you need to have natives in the squad. Forming national cricket teams entirely of foreigners may enable the ICC to claim that they have 100 or 120 members, but it does a lot of damage to popularity of the game. I don't want to comment on duration anymore. Now we have the T10 format, which gets completed in around 1.5 hours.

yes, Time is not a problem right now, that's why I think probably from now on a lot of teams will be interested in cricket. Even if they don't want to play cricket seriously, they might have some interest to at least tryout and have the same for it by themselves.

The ICC needs to change the rule about having foreign players on the team. There should be a limitation to that. It will be better for cricket in the long run. But on the other hand, if ICC does make that type of rule it is going to cause a lot of problems for the teams of which the backbone is made of foreign players. I think right now cricket has an audience of more than 3 Billion and honestly it is not enough for cricket to be called a popular sport worldwide.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

The ICC needs to change the rule about having foreign players on the team. There should be a limitation to that. It will be better for cricket in the long run. But on the other hand, if ICC does make that type of rule it is going to cause a lot of problems for the teams of which the backbone is made of foreign players. I think right now cricket has an audience of more than 3 Billion and honestly it is not enough for cricket to be called a popular sport worldwide.

3 billion audience is mostly confined to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh rest of the world don't have much cricket audience. There are teams like UAE and Oman that are entirely made of foreign players. I dont think there is rule in place wh limit no of foreign players playing in a team. While countries like Nepal which are entirely made of native players continue to suffer.

[TheGreatPython]

Kids in Russia or France won't have any interest in cricket, when they see a bunch of Indians and Pakistanis wearing the jersey of Russian or French national teams and competing in tournaments. In order to attract native players, you need to have natives in the squad. Forming national cricket teams entirely of foreigners may enable the ICC to claim that they have 100 or 120 members, but it does a lot of damage to popularity of the game. I don't want to comment on duration anymore. Now we have the T10 format, which gets completed in around 1.5 hours.

I believe Cricket is the game of South Asia - there are vert. diehard fans in India and Pakistan. But other countries have their interests and they have other sports of interest. That is correct as mentioned above - Russians and French are not much interested in cricket. What do they play than Soccer?

I am not agreed here now with the new formats of T-10 and T-20 this could be for every one but going to take time because ICC has never been ideal organization for spreading this game here things are going for just support of two or three countries which is having not good impact.

If they want to spread this game drastically then surely need to implement few tough rules for all and try to have gone with same fair policy, but now it's completely impossible money is too much involved, and they are happy with IPL is going to have good funds for their deep pockets.

If ICC takes some strong initiatives then surely we can go positively for many more good and quality players from different countries which are currently not involved in this game.

[redsun114]

And another problem is in India you cannot get a job very easily. You have to know the right people and give them the right amount of money and only then you will be able to get a job. It is not in all cases but mostly this is what happens in India. So the young generation of India finds it really hard to get a job.

Being an Indian, I would not agree if you claim that it is quite difficult to get jobs. There are a lot of jobs available, but the parents only want their kids to do white collar jobs. Even high paying jobs such as underwater welding are looked down upon. Farming is a very low prestige job, despite the profitability. And the problem here is that not everyone can be a programmer or an IT worker. Even the profession of a sports coach doesn't have the same prestige as that of a software engineer. But then, IT jobs are in short supply and there is too much competition.

Most of the time we have comments and views from peoples those are not aware about ground realities and talk about having headlines from different newspapers and media I am also feeling if you have good education or skill then having job is never been issue for any person but mindset for having just white collar jobs are bringing some distraction which is surely having impact on man's life.

Even here Education is bringing some good changes but still we need long wait for having some positive changes which bring things easy for all because now it's time for having revolutionary changes which are not implementing here for decades even they can do more positive and easy life for millions throughout country.

[eaLiTy]

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Kids in Russia or France won't have any interest in cricket, when they see a bunch of Indians and Pakistanis wearing the jersey of Russian or French national teams and competing in tournaments. In order to attract native players, you need to have natives in the squad.

To attract players from countries Cricket is not that popular, stacking a team with native players will not make any difference, the payment and the amount of money they can make playing the game throughout their career will make a huge difference. It is all about the incentives and the efforts of the respective board that makes the difference.

Forming national cricket teams entirely of foreigners may enable the ICC to claim that they have 100 or 120 members, but it does a lot of damage to popularity of the game. I don't want to comment on duration anymore. Now we have the T10 format, which gets completed in around 1.5 hours.

ICC cannot do much even in this aspect, if all the countries can stack foreign players then they would have done that already just like UAE and other GCC countries, the respective Cricket boards takes those decisions and not the ICC. ICC only facilitate the matches and encourage the boards to be proactive and find talents the rest are the responsibility of their national cricket boards.

[Sithara007]

ICC cannot do much even in this aspect, if all the countries can stack foreign players then they would have done that already just like UAE and other GCC countries, the respective Cricket boards takes those decisions and not the ICC. ICC only facilitate the matches and encourage the boards to be proactive and find talents the rest are the responsibility of their national cricket boards.

It is the ICC that makes eligibility rules. So they can't claim that they are helpless here. Actually, until two decades ago, foreigners were not allowed in to national teams. This rule was changed sometime in the 2000s, due to the pressure from Emirates Cricket Board. In no other sports, it is possible to include even one foreigner in the national team. And in cricket, we have "national teams" that are entirely comprised of foreigners. Until this system changes, cricket will remain limited to a handful of countries.

[Haunebu]

And in cricket, we have "national teams" that are entirely comprised of foreigners. Until this system changes, cricket will remain limited to a handful of countries.

I don't think any of this will change at any point in the future and it really isn't a big deal at all which is why I have no idea why some of you keep bringing up this topic again and again.

Cricket has already established itself as one of the most popular sports in the world a long time ago and there is also the IPL which has established itself as one of the most expensive leagues in the world.

All of this basically implies that the popularity of Cricket keeps soaring across the world as time passes.

[Minecache]

Kids in Russia or France won't have any interest in cricket, when they see a bunch of Indians and Pakistanis wearing the jersey of Russian or French national teams and competing in tournaments. In order to attract native players, you need to have natives in the squad. Forming national cricket teams entirely of foreigners may enable the ICC to claim that they have 100 or 120 members, but it does a lot of damage to popularity of the game. I don't want to comment on duration anymore. Now we have the T10 format, which gets completed in around 1.5 hours.

I believe Cricket is the game of South Asia - there are vert. diehard fans in India and Pakistan. But other countries have their interests and they have other sports of interest. That is correct as mentioned above - Russians and French are not much interested in cricket. What do they play than Soccer?

I am not agreed here now with the new formats of T-10 and T-20 this could be for every one but going to take time because ICC has never been ideal organization for spreading this game here things are going for just support of two or three countries which is having not good impact.
If they want to spread this game drastically then surely need to implement few tough rules for all and try to have gone with same fair policy, but now it's completely impossible money is too much involved, and they are happy with IPL is going to have good funds for their deep pockets.
If ICC takes some strong initiatives then surely we can go positively for many more good and quality players from different countries which are currently not involved in this game.

First of all, I agree with both of you but to a certain extent. Cricket is obviously a game of South East Asia. And cricket is never going to get the type of fan base that it got from this region of Asia. But right now with cricket evolving and the formats getting shorter and shorter day by day I think a lot of other countries are also going to be interested.

But we all know that ICC really does not care too much about cricket being a sport that is accepted and spread worldwide. If we say that all the fault is on ICC I think we will be wrong because the top 4 countries in cricket are also not very good supporters of having lots of teams playing cricket. Apparently, it makes them look bad if they lose to a smaller country.

Well, I have a solution for that, ""get better or don't play cricket"" .

[Tony116]

ICC cannot do much even in this aspect, if all the countries can stack foreign players then they would have done that already just like UAE and other GCC countries, the respective Cricket boards takes those decisions and not the ICC. ICC only facilitate the matches and encourage the boards to be proactive and find talents the rest are the responsibility of their national cricket boards.

It is the ICC that makes eligibility rules. So they can't claim that they are helpless here. Actually, until two decades ago, foreigners were not allowed in to national teams. This rule was changed sometime in the 2000s, due to the pressure from Emirates Cricket Board. In no other sports, it is possible to include even one foreigner in the national team. And in cricket, we have "national teams" that are entirely comprised of foreigners. Until this system changes, cricket will remain limited to a handful of countries.

If ICC makes big changes to this rule right now and they suddenly decide that they will not be even one single foreign player in any country a lot of teams are going to lose their shit. As far as I see this they can do two things.

They can make a rule that a player will surely have to be a citizen of a country to play for the national team. If a person has the citizenship of a certain country he will be able to play for that country and that country only.

They can make a rule that only a certain number of players who are citizens of a different country will be able to play for another country. And foreign players will be playing under contract. Only one party cannot terminate the contract. But both parties will be able to terminate the contract if they have a mutual understanding. And a foreign player who has played for a certain country will not face any kind of ban if he successfully completes his contract and wants to play for his own country after that.

[Sithara007]

If ICC makes big changes to this rule right now and they suddenly decide that they will not be even one single foreign player in any country a lot of teams are going to lose their shit. As far as I see this they can do two things.
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What is the point in having these artificial "national" teams? The ICC should just admit that cricket is a sport that is limited to a handful of countries. They should be honest, rather than creating illogical national teams. Once again, I don't have an issue if 2 or 3 foreigners are present in the playing XI. But in 80% of the associate teams, all the 11 players in the XI are made of foreigners. During the 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup, we had one such team (Oman) and for the next edition of the world cup there will be more (Oman, United Arab Emirates and Singapore).

[Tony116]

If ICC makes big changes to this rule right now and they suddenly decide that they will not be even one single foreign player in any country a lot of teams are going to lose their shit. As far as I see this they can do two things.
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What is the point in having these artificial "national" teams? The ICC should just admit that cricket is a sport that is limited to a handful of countries. They should be honest, rather than creating illogical national teams. Once again, I don't have an issue if 2 or 3 foreigners are present in the playing XI. But in 80% of the associate teams, all the 11 players in the XI are made of foreigners. During the 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup, we had one such team (Oman) and for the next edition of the world cup there will be more (Oman, United Arab Emirates and Singapore).

We all have a very good idea now that ICC is anything but honest. They are always going to look for profits instead of thinking about what is best for cricket in the long run. And that is happening because of some corrupt authority personnel in the ICC. Everyone should have a problem if a national team is made out of a hundred percent foreign players. Here we are talking about how to fix this situation and meanwhile, we have more teams like that about to take part in the next World Cup. It feels as if ICC is actually encouraging this type of behavior or should I say “Business Policy.” This needs to be stopped ASAP.

[SirLancelot]

We all have a very good idea now that ICC is anything but honest. They are always going to look for profits instead of thinking about what is best for cricket in the long run. And that is happening because of some corrupt authority personnel in the ICC. Everyone should have a problem if a national team is made out of a hundred percent foreign players. Here we are talking about how to fix this situation and meanwhile, we have more teams like that about to take part in the next World Cup. It feels as if ICC is actually encouraging this type of behavior or should I say “Business Policy.” This needs to be stopped ASAP.

ICC is mostly headed by Australia and England now in last two decades we have few changes, but policies are still as we have few decades back sadly the change is also having no major impact even few corrupt peoples are joined, and they are bringing same policies which are helpful for few peoples and most are not having any positive return from this.

As we all know Olympics is the biggest even, and we are not in because of ICC policies, and they never like to join this as it can hurt their stake mean for this they have to bring some big changes, and it's not acceptable for B-3 so with this all we have to live in this hell world and never accept any positive and solid policy for bright future of cricket.

[eaLiTy]

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We all have a very good idea now that ICC is anything but honest. They are always going to look for profits instead of thinking about what is best for cricket in the long run. And that is happening because of some corrupt authority personnel in the ICC. Everyone should have a problem if a national team is made out of a hundred percent foreign players. Here we are talking about how to fix this situation and meanwhile, we have more teams like that about to take part in the next World Cup. It feels as if ICC is actually encouraging this type of behavior or should I say “Business Policy.” This needs to be stopped ASAP.

I am not sure why ICC alone is a corrupt one because they are allowing countries to add foreign players in their team. It is a global governing body for cricket and they want to see the game grow and reducing the number of countries who are allowing foreign players will not help developing the game.

It is not a business policy by the ICC but if a respective Cricket board selects players who are migrants, what is wrong in that. The general claim here in the forum is that, there must be a quota system. Let the respective Cricket board gets the authority to select the best team possible and not enforce these quota system.