Cricket match prediction discussions

[JSRAW]

I believe that Pakistan is progressing well, and it’s only a matter of time before they find those 1 - 2 player’s that can make them the strongest team in T20 format. Furthermore as we discuss about Pakistan’s cricket it’s pertinent to note that PCB has started issuing legal notice’s to former player’s who have said harsh stuff about PCB or the team, so what do you’ll think about this move by PCB.

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.

It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.

I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

I believe that Pakistan is progressing well, and it’s only a matter of time before they find those 1 - 2 player’s that can make them the strongest team in T20 format. Furthermore as we discuss about Pakistan’s cricket it’s pertinent to note that PCB has started issuing legal notice’s to former player’s who have said harsh stuff about PCB or the team, so what do you’ll think about this move by PCB.

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.

It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.

I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Yes you are right with post and position there comes a quota of criticism and negative remarks that you have to listen and tolerate.  This is not some professional behaviour to send legal notices to former players,  this is part of every society that you have to deal with humor ,negativity and criticism because that's their point of view and that have all the freedom to express their point .

[Sithara007]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.

It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.

I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

[JSRAW]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.

It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.

I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

You should listen to what Rambo has to say about the previous chiefs when he was not in the system. He as an expert ripped everyone apart (including opposition teams, calling em names etc), when the PCB hosted teams like Zim, WI,SL, BAN. Likes of Najam Sethi, Ehsan Mani didn't send him any legal notice for that.

Wasim bhai, Shoiab everyone was pissing on management and players when they lost the first 2 games.

[Naficopa]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.

It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.

I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

In this world cup almost all the news channels invited some former cricketers for discussion and analysis on cricket and players and some of those players are not even good in cricket during their time (like kamran Akmal)  but that doesn't mean If they'll say something that should be given an ear .all type of people are there in all fields some are decent and graceful like Wasim Arram, waqar yunus,sohaib malik and Misbah ul Haq ,that show was very decent and informative and a true cricket discussion show ,they talked about everything management, selection committee, matches players but with decency and proper language.
Unfortunately all the players are not like them ,some people can't handle fame gracefully.

[kro55]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.
It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.
I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

You should listen to what Rambo has to say about the previous chiefs when he was not in the system. He as an expert ripped everyone apart (including opposition teams, calling em names etc), when the PCB hosted teams like Zim, WI,SL, BAN. Likes of Najam Sethi, Ehsan Mani didn't send him any legal notice for that.

I know that Pakistan did reach the finals. But no one can deny that they got a bit lucky. Because first of all, they shouldn’t have lost against Zimbabwe. Secondly, they got a chance when the Netherlands beat South Africa. Because that really shouldn’t have happened. So everything was hanging on a chance for Pakistan. And Pakistan themselves had to rely on two or three of the players to do all the work. Whenever Babar Azam, Rizwan, or Shaheen Shah Afridi failed to perform, Pakistan was in a lot of trouble.

Wasim bhai, Shoiab everyone was pissing on management and players when they lost the first 2 games.

Another thing that should be kept in mind is that a positive reaction and constructive criticism are always going to be able to help the players more than just talking shit about them. They are also ex-players and they should know that.

[BobK71]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.
It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.
I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

You should listen to what Rambo has to say about the previous chiefs when he was not in the system. He as an expert ripped everyone apart (including opposition teams, calling em names etc), when the PCB hosted teams like Zim, WI,SL, BAN. Likes of Najam Sethi, Ehsan Mani didn't send him any legal notice for that.

I know that Pakistan did reach the finals. But no one can deny that they got a bit lucky. Because first of all, they shouldn’t have lost against Zimbabwe. Secondly, they got a chance when the Netherlands beat South Africa. Because that really shouldn’t have happened. So everything was hanging on a chance for Pakistan. And Pakistan themselves had to rely on two or three of the players to do all the work. Whenever Babar Azam, Rizwan, or Shaheen Shah Afridi failed to perform, Pakistan was in a lot of trouble.

Pakistan has come out of all the hurdles before playing the final match maybe only because of luck. Loss to Zimbabwe and South Africa's loss to Ireland once again gave Pakistan a dream. Maybe they wouldn't have got this benefit if the luck wasn't good. But in the end luck did not work in their favor on the field of play. Rizwan out from the inside edge, why Babar Azam play the ball that way. Where top order batsman are the hope of Pakistan. Here is a lesson taught by whatever fate does. In the field you have to win by playing the best not only for luck.

[ZAINmalik75]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.
It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.
I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

You should listen to what Rambo has to say about the previous chiefs when he was not in the system. He as an expert ripped everyone apart (including opposition teams, calling em names etc), when the PCB hosted teams like Zim, WI,SL, BAN. Likes of Najam Sethi, Ehsan Mani didn't send him any legal notice for that.

I know that Pakistan did reach the finals. But no one can deny that they got a bit lucky. Because first of all, they shouldn’t have lost against Zimbabwe. Secondly, they got a chance when the Netherlands beat South Africa. Because that really shouldn’t have happened. So everything was hanging on a chance for Pakistan. And Pakistan themselves had to rely on two or three of the players to do all the work. Whenever Babar Azam, Rizwan, or Shaheen Shah Afridi failed to perform, Pakistan was in a lot of trouble.

Pakistan has come out of all the hurdles before playing the final match maybe only because of luck. Loss to Zimbabwe and South Africa's loss to Ireland once again gave Pakistan a dream. Maybe they wouldn't have got this benefit if the luck wasn't good. But in the end luck did not work in their favor on the field of play. Rizwan out from the inside edge, why Babar Azam play the ball that way. Where top order batsman are the hope of Pakistan. Here is a lesson taught by whatever fate does. In the field you have to win by playing the best not only for luck.

Pakistan are quite lucky in this world it's right because the luck safe Pakistan during Netherlands vs southAfrica match but you can't ignore this truth that Pakistan won the consecutive 4 crutial matches to reach to the final , they beat strong team like SouthAfrica who beat India alredy and Pakistan also beat Netherlands who beat south Africa and the another strong team like Bangladesh who has equal point with Pakistan, Pak beat all of them,
So the main point is that without the strong performance only luck can't put Pakistan into final.

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It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.
It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.
I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

You should listen to what Rambo has to say about the previous chiefs when he was not in the system. He as an expert ripped everyone apart (including opposition teams, calling em names etc), when the PCB hosted teams like Zim, WI,SL, BAN. Likes of Najam Sethi, Ehsan Mani didn't send him any legal notice for that.

I know that Pakistan did reach the finals. But no one can deny that they got a bit lucky. Because first of all, they shouldn’t have lost against Zimbabwe. Secondly, they got a chance when the Netherlands beat South Africa. Because that really shouldn’t have happened. So everything was hanging on a chance for Pakistan. And Pakistan themselves had to rely on two or three of the players to do all the work. Whenever Babar Azam, Rizwan, or Shaheen Shah Afridi failed to perform, Pakistan was in a lot of trouble.

Pakistan has come out of all the hurdles before playing the final match maybe only because of luck. Loss to Zimbabwe and South Africa's loss to Ireland once again gave Pakistan a dream. Maybe they wouldn't have got this benefit if the luck wasn't good. But in the end luck did not work in their favor on the field of play. Rizwan out from the inside edge, why Babar Azam play the ball that way. Where top order batsman are the hope of Pakistan. Here is a lesson taught by whatever fate does. In the field you have to win by playing the best not only for luck.

Pakistan are quite lucky in this world it's right because the luck safe Pakistan during Netherlands vs southAfrica match but you can't ignore this truth that Pakistan won the consecutive 4 crutial matches to reach to the final , they beat strong team like SouthAfrica who beat India alredy and Pakistan also beat Netherlands who beat south Africa and the another strong team like Bangladesh who has equal point with Pakistan, Pak beat all of them,
So the main point is that without the strong performance only luck can't put Pakistan into final.

I am also kinda agree with you because Pakistan also gaves a good performance in the series they are not only depending on luck. But unfortunately Pakistan has the weakness of Batmens because I saw they are constantly depending on babar azam and rizwan for batting and when they can't perform well Pakistan lost that match. I they should immediately change the batting lineup Otherwise this will happen again and again with them.

[eaLiTy]

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Wasim bhai, Shoiab everyone was pissing on management and players when they lost the first 2 games.

Granted, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Shoaib Malik and Misbah-ul-Haq were part of a television show reviewing the T20 World Cup. There were pre match and post match analysis of the T20 World Cup and you could hear criticism from them if the national team plays badly. The same happens everywhere if the former players are part of a television show reviewing the match and they will not hold back on the criticism and how many times we have seen that  .

Shoaib Akhtar has a youtube channel and he always come up with controversial topics, he just wants clicks and viewers in his channel  . Even Inzamam ul Haq has a youtube channel but he is not posting controversial topics and hence he wont be getting views like Akhtar .

[romero121]

I am also kinda agree with you because Pakistan also gave good performance in the series they are not only depending on luck. But unfortunately Pakistan has the weakness of Batmens because I saw they are constantly depending on babar azam and rizwan for batting and when they can't perform well Pakistan lost that match. I they should immediately change the batting lineup Otherwise this will happen again and again with them.

Pakistan have big dependence over Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan. However the bowling strength keeps them at good position. Even after scoring 137 runs they gave good fightback and took the match till the 19th over. Compared to the initial matches now there is performance coming from Masood which is really good for Pakistan. As suggested, opening change or someone needs to be prepared for the position when this combination isn't able to give success.

[Sithara007]

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Wasim bhai, Shoiab everyone was pissing on management and players when they lost the first 2 games.

Granted, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Shoaib Malik and Misbah-ul-Haq were part of a television show reviewing the T20 World Cup. There were pre match and post match analysis of the T20 World Cup and you could hear criticism from them if the national team plays badly. The same happens everywhere if the former players are part of a television show reviewing the match and they will not hold back on the criticism and how many times we have seen that  .

Shoaib Akhtar has a youtube channel and he always come up with controversial topics, he just wants clicks and viewers in his channel  . Even Inzamam ul Haq has a youtube channel but he is not posting controversial topics and hence he wont be getting views like Akhtar .

My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

[BobK71]

I am also kinda agree with you because Pakistan also gave good performance in the series they are not only depending on luck. But unfortunately Pakistan has the weakness of Batmens because I saw they are constantly depending on babar azam and rizwan for batting and when they can't perform well Pakistan lost that match. I they should immediately change the batting lineup Otherwise this will happen again and again with them.

Pakistan have big dependence over Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan. However the bowling strength keeps them at good position. Even after scoring 137 runs they gave good fightback and took the match till the 19th over. Compared to the initial matches now there is performance coming from Masood which is really good for Pakistan. As suggested, opening change or someone needs to be prepared for the position when this combination isn't able to give success.

One thing is to note that when Pakistan top order does well, everyone including the middle order does well. Top order failure means loss for Pakistan. Pakistan have come in this position only because of their good bowling performance otherwise their top order dependent team would have been far down. But if they make changes in this batting site, it can be good for the team. After Babar Azam and Rizwan if the Pakistan Cricket board select two others good batsman or reorganize then i expect Pakistan cricket can be one of the strongest and reliable cricket team in the world.

[jaberwock]

I know that Pakistan did reach the finals. But no one can deny that they got a bit lucky. Because first of all, they shouldn’t have lost against Zimbabwe. Secondly, they got a chance when the Netherlands beat South Africa. Because that really shouldn’t have happened. So everything was hanging on a chance for Pakistan. And Pakistan themselves had to rely on two or three of the players to do all the work. Whenever Babar Azam, Rizwan, or Shaheen Shah Afridi failed to perform, Pakistan was in a lot of trouble.

This is nothing new for Pakistan they are in last four or last two with their any kind of performance in most events, and they are not luckiest for the first time they have many lucky days in their past as well but still here we have problem with the Pakistan sports and all cricketing system which is never been in good shape specially now as we have too many ways to give our opinion still positive things not happening most of the former players are uneducated, and they have not good skills and techniques which help new generation players.

So, the best thing is just coming on any news channel which is currently very cheap way and talk about all shit even many players which capable of having good mindset and can bring good changes are not interested to help just talk and having good views on YouTube channel and trying to influence some political person for having good job this is current culture which is not going to change in next few years as they are not stable in finances and as well in political base.

[TheGreatPython]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.

It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.

I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

Here I agreed with you personal attacks specially from player like Kamran Akmal is surely not good because we all know how things he has done in his career which are surely not good and positive other thing right now Pakistan is in critical position due to many factors so just because of this many news channels allow players to join them and give their views about this T20i World Cup, so we have different views which are mostly not constructive and positive because they have good experience but not good knowledge of the game so every one want to have some intention from public even right now Ramiz Raja is doing good things but still many are not happy because they are doing points scoring and Ramiz's case against Kamran Akmal is right thing for me in current situation.

[mm2543363580]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.

It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.

I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

Here I agreed with you personal attacks specially from player like Kamran Akmal is surely not good because we all know how things he has done in his career which are surely not good and positive other thing right now Pakistan is in critical position due to many factors so just because of this many news channels allow players to join them and give their views about this T20i World Cup, so we have different views which are mostly not constructive and positive because they have good experience but not good knowledge of the game so every one want to have some intention from public even right now Ramiz Raja is doing good things but still many are not happy because they are doing points scoring and Ramiz's case against Kamran Akmal is right thing for me in current situation.

That's true I don't get this why Is there soo much criticism and discussion on every news channel for world cup like those who were a failure during there sport playing days are sitting there and attacking Pakistan team and administration . Why can't they just support and appreciate their team for how far they have reached and what they have achieved in T20WC.

[ZAINmalik75]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.
It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.
I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

You should listen to what Rambo has to say about the previous chiefs when he was not in the system. He as an expert ripped everyone apart (including opposition teams, calling em names etc), when the PCB hosted teams like Zim, WI,SL, BAN. Likes of Najam Sethi, Ehsan Mani didn't send him any legal notice for that.

I know that Pakistan did reach the finals. But no one can deny that they got a bit lucky. Because first of all, they shouldn’t have lost against Zimbabwe. Secondly, they got a chance when the Netherlands beat South Africa. Because that really shouldn’t have happened. So everything was hanging on a chance for Pakistan. And Pakistan themselves had to rely on two or three of the players to do all the work. Whenever Babar Azam, Rizwan, or Shaheen Shah Afridi failed to perform, Pakistan was in a lot of trouble.

Pakistan has come out of all the hurdles before playing the final match maybe only because of luck. Loss to Zimbabwe and South Africa's loss to Ireland once again gave Pakistan a dream. Maybe they wouldn't have got this benefit if the luck wasn't good. But in the end luck did not work in their favor on the field of play. Rizwan out from the inside edge, why Babar Azam play the ball that way. Where top order batsman are the hope of Pakistan. Here is a lesson taught by whatever fate does. In the field you have to win by playing the best not only for luck.

Pakistan are quite lucky in this world it's right because the luck safe Pakistan during Netherlands vs southAfrica match but you can't ignore this truth that Pakistan won the consecutive 4 crutial matches to reach to the final , they beat strong team like SouthAfrica who beat India alredy and Pakistan also beat Netherlands who beat south Africa and the another strong team like Bangladesh who has equal point with Pakistan, Pak beat all of them,
So the main point is that without the strong performance only luck can't put Pakistan into final.

I am also kinda agree with you because Pakistan also gaves a good performance in the series they are not only depending on luck. But unfortunately Pakistan has the weakness of Batmens because I saw they are constantly depending on babar azam and rizwan for batting and when they can't perform well Pakistan lost that match. I they should immediately change the batting lineup Otherwise this will happen again and again with them.

Yeh absolutely right they must change the line of middle order in order to remove dependency from open pair Baber and Rizwan, in recent PAkistan Junior League we got some young talent like tayyab and basit Ali etc , if we give them chance in PSL for test and after that put them in our National team squad and some new talents through PSL franchises talent hunt trail then i think they can solve middle order problem. Because our youth talent has the ability to solve Pakistan middle order problem

[Naficopa]

It's not former players or Rambo's problem but the Pakistani cricket system.
It gets very ugly there, almost everyone (former player, commentators, sports anchor, PCB's Chief) shitposts and makes cringe statements when the thing gets tough or see any kind of success.
I can understand when former players etc make any ridiculous comments about the team or anyone for that matter but as a cricket board chief, you should have some grace as you're holding a top seat. You don't hear or see such kind of behavior from other cricket board presidents.

Can't agree with you here. Akmal and some of the other ex-players reportedly made personal attacks against Rameez. The team reached finals in the world cup, and rather than celebrating it they are showering verbal abuse on the administrators. If it was someone like Wasim Akram or Shoiab Akhtar, then I would have still listened. But Kamran Akmal? What he has so far achieved in his career so far? Test batting average of 30.79 and 26.09 in ODI. Rameez maybe a bit strict here, but people like Kamran understand this language only.

You should listen to what Rambo has to say about the previous chiefs when he was not in the system. He as an expert ripped everyone apart (including opposition teams, calling em names etc), when the PCB hosted teams like Zim, WI,SL, BAN. Likes of Najam Sethi, Ehsan Mani didn't send him any legal notice for that.

I know that Pakistan did reach the finals. But no one can deny that they got a bit lucky. Because first of all, they shouldn’t have lost against Zimbabwe. Secondly, they got a chance when the Netherlands beat South Africa. Because that really shouldn’t have happened. So everything was hanging on a chance for Pakistan. And Pakistan themselves had to rely on two or three of the players to do all the work. Whenever Babar Azam, Rizwan, or Shaheen Shah Afridi failed to perform, Pakistan was in a lot of trouble.

Pakistan has come out of all the hurdles before playing the final match maybe only because of luck. Loss to Zimbabwe and South Africa's loss to Ireland once again gave Pakistan a dream. Maybe they wouldn't have got this benefit if the luck wasn't good. But in the end luck did not work in their favor on the field of play. Rizwan out from the inside edge, why Babar Azam play the ball that way. Where top order batsman are the hope of Pakistan. Here is a lesson taught by whatever fate does. In the field you have to win by playing the best not only for luck.

Pakistan are quite lucky in this world it's right because the luck safe Pakistan during Netherlands vs southAfrica match but you can't ignore this truth that Pakistan won the consecutive 4 crutial matches to reach to the final , they beat strong team like SouthAfrica who beat India alredy and Pakistan also beat Netherlands who beat south Africa and the another strong team like Bangladesh who has equal point with Pakistan, Pak beat all of them,
So the main point is that without the strong performance only luck can't put Pakistan into final.

I am also kinda agree with you because Pakistan also gaves a good performance in the series they are not only depending on luck. But unfortunately Pakistan has the weakness of Batmens because I saw they are constantly depending on babar azam and rizwan for batting and when they can't perform well Pakistan lost that match. I they should immediately change the batting lineup Otherwise this will happen again and again with them.

Yeh absolutely right they must change the line of middle order in order to remove dependency from open pair Baber and Rizwan, in recent PAkistan Junior League we got some young talent like tayyab and basit Ali etc , if we give them chance in PSL for test and after that put them in our National team squad and some new talents through PSL franchises talent hunt trail then i think they can solve middle order problem. Because our youth talent has the ability to solve Pakistan middle order problem

Every player in team specially batsman should perform his best no matter the openers play or not , its there duty for its team and country. This is becoming a trend now if Muhammad Rizwan and Babar Azam will not perform rest of the team will shake down. Rizwan is fine but Babar is under soo much pressure don't know why he's not in form for playing you can see this clearly in his game. But middle order is trying to lift up team and they somehow succeed in that.
So instead of changing the players work on the recent players as they all are fresh and they can perform very well during difficult matches.

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.

Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.

Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

This "Billion dollar" Jab is just one example. There are quite a few instances where he becomes loose cannon against opposition teams " Beat em and we'll get a blank check" "Kohli scored a ton against 3rd rate team -Afganistan-)". Imagine ECB, CA, BCCI's president start talking like this.

I like the show you were referring to in your previous comment. The only thing I hate is when they bring religion into everything. Some might still remember Waqar Younis's bigoted comment last year, he came out as a true Islamist and later he had to apologize in public but it was just a damage control tactic IMO.