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There is some exciting news from Malaysia. The Malaysian Cricket Association has announced that they will be launching a T20 league this year, comprised of 5 franchises. The league will be sponsored by IPG (who were the official promoters of the Lankan Premier League). According to Mohammed Iqbal Ali bin Kassim Ali  (MCA president), local Malaysian players will get an opportunity to play with some of the top international cricket players. All the matches will be played at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. My only concern is regarding the availability of international players. The T20 league calendar already looks over-saturated.

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May 16, 2023, 03:33:12 AM
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There is some exciting news from Malaysia. The Malaysian Cricket Association has announced that they will be launching a T20 league this year, comprised of 5 franchises. The league will be sponsored by IPG (who were the official promoters of the Lankan Premier League). According to Mohammed Iqbal Ali bin Kassim Ali  (MCA president), local Malaysian players will get an opportunity to play with some of the top international cricket players. All the matches will be played at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. My only concern is regarding the availability of international players. The T20 league calendar already looks over-saturated.

@Sithara007 not surprised to see another country trying to cash out on the success of the T20 format but I doubt that any big star player especially from the big 3 will participate. Furthermore this league will probably be home to the reserve squad of national team’s and player’s who can’t play in league like IPL hence I don’t expect much viewership for them apart from their local fan’s.
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@Sithara007 not surprised to see another country trying to cash out on the success of the T20 format but I doubt that any big star player especially from the big 3 will participate. Furthermore this league will probably be home to the reserve squad of national team’s and player’s who can’t play in league like IPL hence I don’t expect much viewership for them apart from their local fan’s.

Well.. Malaysia is not the only associate nation trying to cash in on the T20 format. Canadian Cricket Association has already announced that they will be resuming the Global T20 Canada this year. The league was started in 2018 and the second edition was staged in 2019. But after that the organizers faced some difficulties as a result of COVID and the 2020-2022 editions were cancelled. Yuvraj Singh is one of the players who will feature in GLT20. He will be representing the Toronto Nationals franchise. There are rumors that Kieron Pollard will be participating, but there is no confirmation as of now.

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May 16, 2023, 06:51:35 AM
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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,
1. Before making this rule, if the umpire had doubts about any decision, then the umpire would directly resort to the third umpire and the on-field umpire would give a soft signal according to his possibility, but this soft signal method is no longer there in the new rules of the ICC. If the umpire has one percent doubt about giving a decision, he will directly refer to the third umpire. 

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable. 

3. And the third rule is that if the batsman scores a run without the ball hitting the bat, then that run will be added next to the batsman's name. To put it simply, if Virat Kohli is bowled by a free hit in the World Cup match between Pakistan and India, then the ball gets four on the stamp and that run is added to the team's run but not added to Virat Kohli's run. From now on that run will be added to the batsman's side
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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,
1. Before making this rule, if the umpire had doubts about any decision, then the umpire would directly resort to the third umpire and the on-field umpire would give a soft signal according to his possibility, but this soft signal method is no longer there in the new rules of the ICC. If the umpire has one percent doubt about giving a decision, he will directly refer to the third umpire. 

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable. 

3. And the third rule is that if the batsman scores a run without the ball hitting the bat, then that run will be added next to the batsman's name. To put it simply, if Virat Kohli is bowled by a free hit in the World Cup match between Pakistan and India, then the ball gets four on the stamp and that run is added to the team's run but not added to Virat Kohli's run. From now on that run will be added to the batsman's side
Good decision on the "soft signal" as it was a very flawed rule. Imagine a fielder claiming a catch on the boundary line and it's not a clean catch (he/she is not aware) and they started celebrating, followed by the umpire giving a soft signal out, to overrule on-field decision third umpire needed a conclusive decision. These guys should also look at the "Umpire's call" in the context of LBW.

For some reason, ICC has removed the Free-hit-bowled-scenario from their release. https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/3345795

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May 16, 2023, 10:42:13 AM
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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,
1. Before making this rule, if the umpire had doubts about any decision, then the umpire would directly resort to the third umpire and the on-field umpire would give a soft signal according to his possibility, but this soft signal method is no longer there in the new rules of the ICC. If the umpire has one percent doubt about giving a decision, he will directly refer to the third umpire. 

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable. 

3. And the third rule is that if the batsman scores a run without the ball hitting the bat, then that run will be added next to the batsman's name. To put it simply, if Virat Kohli is bowled by a free hit in the World Cup match between Pakistan and India, then the ball gets four on the stamp and that run is added to the team's run but not added to Virat Kohli's run. From now on that run will be added to the batsman's side
Good decision on the "soft signal" as it was a very flawed rule. Imagine a fielder claiming a catch on the boundary line and it's not a clean catch (he/she is not aware) and they started celebrating, followed by the umpire giving a soft signal out, to overrule on-field decision third umpire needed a conclusive decision. These guys should also look at the "Umpire's call" in the context of LBW.
It can be a good decision because when the field umpire gives a decision, if a fielder takes a review against that umpire's decision, then the third umpire tries his best to give importance to the decision of the field umpire. Since the new rule says to take the help of technology directly even if there is one percent doubt about any out, it is expected that 100% correct decision will be obtained in this type of review. And the controversy that would have arisen on these issues will not arise after June 1.
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@Sithara007 not surprised to see another country trying to cash out on the success of the T20 format but I doubt that any big star player especially from the big 3 will participate. Furthermore this league will probably be home to the reserve squad of national team’s and player’s who can’t play in league like IPL hence I don’t expect much viewership for them apart from their local fan’s.
Well.. Malaysia is not the only associate nation trying to cash in on the T20 format. Canadian Cricket Association has already announced that they will be resuming the Global T20 Canada this year. The league was started in 2018 and the second edition was staged in 2019. But after that the organizers faced some difficulties as a result of COVID and the 2020-2022 editions were cancelled. Yuvraj Singh is one of the players who will feature in GLT20. He will be representing the Toronto Nationals franchise. There are rumors that Kieron Pollard will be participating, but there is no confirmation as of now.
It's good news for the game of cricket as now we have too many countries are interested in franchise cricket specially which are economically strong because this will help them and also few other boards which will be able to send their players here in these leagues for experience and money as well but sadly here we have one issue we have no luxury like soccer as too many leagues can go through once and all have equal fanbase even this is possible but surely going to take good time.

MCA is surely doing good, and they can do much better than many countries but here I want they try to have support from few other regional countries as well which will create good interest in this region like they have Southeast Asian games franchise like this surely can help them better financially with fanbase could be also huge.

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May 16, 2023, 02:21:13 PM
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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable. 
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It's good news for the game of cricket as now we have too many countries are interested in franchise cricket specially which are economically strong because this will help them and also few other boards which will be able to send their players here in these leagues for experience and money as well but sadly here we have one issue we have no luxury like soccer as too many leagues can go through once and all have equal fanbase even this is possible but surely going to take good time.

MCA is surely doing good, and they can do much better than many countries but here I want they try to have support from few other regional countries as well which will create good interest in this region like they have Southeast Asian games franchise like this surely can help them better financially with fanbase could be also huge.

Don't know whether it makes economic sense to have franchise T20 leagues in these small countries. Even full member nations such as South Africa and Sri Lanka struggled to launch their T20 leagues. The main issue is that a lion's share of the revenue comes from India, and I don't think that countries such as Malaysia have a good potential to earn cricket revenues from the domestic market. And when they are dependent on India for the revenues, it is important to have players from India. And that is tricky, given the BCCI's rejection of overseas T20 leagues.

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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable. 
Considering the safety of the players, this rule of ICC is really a very commendable initiative. Before this rule. till now wearing helmet was completely personal matter of batsmen and wicket keepers but ICC is going to make this personal matter mandatory. Now, when batting or fielding against fast bowlers, a batsman or wicket keeper has to wear a helmet even if he doesn't want to. 
I said it is a reasonable concern because many cricketers have died or become paralyzed for life after coming to play cricket, so if this is made mandatory, the players' lives will not be at risk.
I am not going to argue against this rule but still I am not happy with this because even with helmet we can't stop things which can ruin player's career, and they still can lose life with this is not happening we have incidents in Soccer, Rugby and American Football as well even they are also using many precautious about this all.

Now, having mandatory this not make sense to me because while fast bowler is bowling and wicket keeper is standing far behind this not ideal situation for him to wear helmet with during spin bowling he is standing alongside wickets, so this is okay but now having things like this are not ideal for the cricket game but as ICC doing with all boards are agreed with this all it's going to happen in near future.

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It's good news for the game of cricket as now we have too many countries are interested in franchise cricket specially which are economically strong because this will help them and also few other boards which will be able to send their players here in these leagues for experience and money as well but sadly here we have one issue we have no luxury like soccer as too many leagues can go through once and all have equal fanbase even this is possible but surely going to take good time.
MCA is surely doing good, and they can do much better than many countries but here I want they try to have support from few other regional countries as well which will create good interest in this region like they have Southeast Asian games franchise like this surely can help them better financially with fanbase could be also huge.
Don't know whether it makes economic sense to have franchise T20 leagues in these small countries. Even full member nations such as South Africa and Sri Lanka struggled to launch their T20 leagues. The main issue is that a lion's share of the revenue comes from India, and I don't think that countries such as Malaysia have a good potential to earn cricket revenues from the domestic market. And when they are dependent on India for the revenues, it is important to have players from India. And that is tricky, given the BCCI's rejection of overseas T20 leagues.

It is hard to actually get good revenue if you do not have Indian players taking part in the franchises. There is 1 other way wages you have to have a good world-class blessing in your country for the spectator will be to watch.

But sadly there do not have anyone like that in my opinion. I don't see how anyone is going to do well with revenue in these T20 leagues. But I think it can be used to make cricket more popular towards the nation for these associate countries. But I would suggest that the investment should be kept small. They better or not look at the IPL and start investing huge amounts of money in their own T20 league.



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May 17, 2023, 09:25:21 PM
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It is hard to actually get good revenue if you do not have Indian players taking part in the franchises. There is 1 other way wages you have to have a good world-class blessing in your country for the spectator will be to watch.

But sadly there do not have anyone like that in my opinion. I don't see how anyone is going to do well with revenue in these T20 leagues. But I think it can be used to make cricket more popular towards the nation for these associate countries. But I would suggest that the investment should be kept small. They better or not look at the IPL and start investing huge amounts of money in their own T20 league.
It may be this all is correct about their finances but still they can go ahead with their project because they can afford things like this even they have no luxury like the UAE or Saudi Arab which are oil rich countries and doing things for their own with money and power but still I am happy with them and their homework which is they doing for this game.

BCCI will never allow their players for any franchise league because they understand this all and just because of this ban they have the biggest revenue collected league in India which is not challengeable in current cricket world but hopefully few other leagues will be able to go ahead with their own and have better results even MCA can face few problems due to time and availability of International players.

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May 17, 2023, 11:45:51 PM
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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.  
Considering the safety of the players, this rule of ICC is really a very commendable initiative. Before this rule. till now wearing helmet was completely personal matter of batsmen and wicket keepers but ICC is going to make this personal matter mandatory. Now, when batting or fielding against fast bowlers, a batsman or wicket keeper has to wear a helmet even if he doesn't want to.  
I said it is a reasonable concern because many cricketers have died or become paralyzed for life after coming to play cricket, so if this is made mandatory, the players' lives will not be at risk.
I am not going to argue against this rule but still I am not happy with this because even with helmet we can't stop things which can ruin player's career, and they still can lose life with this is not happening we have incidents in Soccer, Rugby and American Football as well even they are also using many precautious about this all.

Now, having mandatory this not make sense to me because while fast bowler is bowling and wicket keeper is standing far behind this not ideal situation for him to wear helmet with during spin bowling he is standing alongside wickets, so this is okay but now having things like this are not ideal for the cricket game but as ICC doing with all boards are agreed with this all it's going to happen in near future.

First of all as I understand this rule only apply on a fast bowling and not on the spin bowling. The batsman already wear helmet when a fast bowler is bowling so there is nothing change in this part however the wicket keeper usually stand very far away and there was no need for him to wear the helmet at that time.

It will be interesting to know how the Wicket keepers around the world will react to this new ICC rule which will just create more irritation to them rather than any safety 🛟 🦺

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It is hard to actually get good revenue if you do not have Indian players taking part in the franchises. There is 1 other way wages you have to have a good world-class blessing in your country for the spectator will be to watch.

But sadly there do not have anyone like that in my opinion. I don't see how anyone is going to do well with revenue in these T20 leagues. But I think it can be used to make cricket more popular towards the nation for these associate countries. But I would suggest that the investment should be kept small. They better or not look at the IPL and start investing huge amounts of money in their own T20 league.

Since the associate nations can expect near zero support from the ICC, my suggestion to them would be to look for other sources of revenue. However, unless cricket is included in the Olympics, the governments are not going to help the national cricket boards. The only option left is to get revenue through sponsorships and TV rights. But this can't happen unless cricket is popular across the country. And that is the issue with smaller countries such as Malaysia. Cricket is not as popular as some of the other sports, such as football and badminton.

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Don't know whether it makes economic sense to have franchise T20 leagues in these small countries. Even full member nations such as South Africa and Sri Lanka struggled to launch their T20 leagues. The main issue is that a lion's share of the revenue comes from India, and I don't think that countries such as Malaysia have a good potential to earn cricket revenues from the domestic market. And when they are dependent on India for the revenues, it is important to have players from India. And that is tricky, given the BCCI's rejection of overseas T20 leagues.
Most chances in early few seasons they will be not in profit but after having few good years they can do better but here I want to add few things Southeast Asia is economically very strong, and they already have ASEAN which is doing amazing in many fields and sports as well so here MCA needs to be realistic with go with seven or eight teams and few franchise from Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam as well because this will create good craze, and they can improve their quality and market as well.
 
With most chances I am not agreed here they need Indian market as well because ASEAN is also well populated region and their market is also well organized, so they can do things without any help as well which is also good for them, and surely they can do these things better than South Africa and Sri Lanka.

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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.  
Considering the safety of the players, this rule of ICC is really a very commendable initiative. Before this rule. till now wearing helmet was completely personal matter of batsmen and wicket keepers but ICC is going to make this personal matter mandatory. Now, when batting or fielding against fast bowlers, a batsman or wicket keeper has to wear a helmet even if he doesn't want to.  
I said it is a reasonable concern because many cricketers have died or become paralyzed for life after coming to play cricket, so if this is made mandatory, the players' lives will not be at risk.
I am not going to argue against this rule but still I am not happy with this because even with helmet we can't stop things which can ruin player's career, and they still can lose life with this is not happening we have incidents in Soccer, Rugby and American Football as well even they are also using many precautious about this all.

Now, having mandatory this not make sense to me because while fast bowler is bowling and wicket keeper is standing far behind this not ideal situation for him to wear helmet with during spin bowling he is standing alongside wickets, so this is okay but now having things like this are not ideal for the cricket game but as ICC doing with all boards are agreed with this all it's going to happen in near future.

First of all as I understand this rule only apply on a fast bowling and not on the spin bowling. The batsman already wear helmet when a fast bowler is bowling so there is nothing change in this part however the wicket keeper usually stand very far away and there was no need for him to wear the helmet at that time.

It will be interesting to know how the Wicket keepers around the world will react to this new ICC rule which will just create more irritation to them rather than any safety 🛟 🦺
Earlier, there was no compulsion to wear a helmet if bowlers bowled fast, but now wicketkeepers and batsmen must wear helmets if bowlers bowl fast or medium fast bowlers. 

In many matches I have seen when a medium fast bowler comes to bowl wicket keepers and batsmen are batting without helmet which is very dangerous because the most sensitive part of our body is our brain is likely to occur. Such rules are usually made to avoid that accident. 

I don't think any wicket keeper will react to ICC's imposition of this rule as it is purely for his own safety.

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Most chances in early few seasons they will be not in profit but after having few good years they can do better but here I want to add few things Southeast Asia is economically very strong, and they already have ASEAN which is doing amazing in many fields and sports as well so here MCA needs to be realistic with go with seven or eight teams and few franchise from Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam as well because this will create good craze, and they can improve their quality and market as well.
 
With most chances I am not agreed here they need Indian market as well because ASEAN is also well populated region and their market is also well organized, so they can do things without any help as well which is also good for them, and surely they can do these things better than South Africa and Sri Lanka.

I don't know whether a T20 league spread out over multiple countries will be viable, given the fact that cricket is not very popular in these countries. Malaysia has a cricketing history of many decades, but even then cricket is not very popular there. Same can be said about Thailand as well. Indonesia is a relatively new entrant, but cricket is rapidly becoming popular there. In Vietnam and Cambodia, it is more of a fringe sport. But arranging logistics will be an issue, as teams will be based quite far away from each other. But it will be possible, provided they get some support from the government and the local businessmen.

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First of all as I understand this rule only apply on a fast bowling and not on the spin bowling. The batsman already wear helmet when a fast bowler is bowling so there is nothing change in this part however the wicket keeper usually stand very far away and there was no need for him to wear the helmet at that time.

It will be interesting to know how the Wicket keepers around the world will react to this new ICC rule which will just create more irritation to them rather than any safety 🛟 🦺
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-when batters are facing fast bowlers
-when wicketkeepers are standing up to the stumps
-when fielders are close to the batter in front of the wicket.

It's not just limited to Keeper or batter, as you rightly pointed out that every batsman and Wicket keeper already follow this because of safety. It's just ICC included this in the rule book and made it mandatory.

Also, this rule mainly focuses on fielders (when spinners are bowling), if they are close to batters like short-leg, silly point, silly mid off -on. These are the most dangerous areas to field, there is a reason you only find rookie members of the team standing there with few exceptions.

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May 18, 2023, 05:04:59 PM
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2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls.  This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable. 
The rule is that anyone fielding close to the batsman should wear proper headgear when fast bowlers are bowling which means wicket keepers coming up to the stumps should wear head protection, which is being done by all the wicket keepers now a days. Forcing wicket keepers to wear helmet standing against fast bowlers in normal position is not practical as it is difficult to judge the ball from that distance with the helmet grills covering your vision.

3. And the third rule is that if the batsman scores a run without the ball hitting the bat, then that run will be added next to the batsman's name. To put it simply, if Virat Kohli is bowled by a free hit in the World Cup match between Pakistan and India, then the ball gets four on the stamp and that run is added to the team's run but not added to Virat Kohli's run. From now on that run will be added to the batsman's side
Not happy with this rule change, as the run for a batsman should be always be scored off the bat and anything other than that should be extras as all the rules are favoring batsman.
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May 18, 2023, 06:27:00 PM
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It is hard to actually get good revenue if you do not have Indian players taking part in the franchises. There is 1 other way wages you have to have a good world-class blessing in your country for the spectator will be to watch.
But sadly there do not have anyone like that in my opinion. I don't see how anyone is going to do well with revenue in these T20 leagues. But I think it can be used to make cricket more popular towards the nation for these associate countries. But I would suggest that the investment should be kept small. They better or not look at the IPL and start investing huge amounts of money in their own T20 league.
Since the associate nations can expect near zero support from the ICC, my suggestion to them would be to look for other sources of revenue. However, unless cricket is included in the Olympics, the governments are not going to help the national cricket boards. The only option left is to get revenue through sponsorships and TV rights. But this can't happen unless cricket is popular across the country. And that is the issue with smaller countries such as Malaysia. Cricket is not as popular as some of the other sports, such as football and badminton.

I do not understand why the associate countries are trying to set up their own T20 league. After all, they should look at the countries who are actually trying that end feeling or not doing a very good job at it. In India and Australia, they are self-sufficient. Even if no one from the outside countries what's them they have enough population themselves to actually make positive revenue.

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It may be this all is correct about their finances but still they can go ahead with their project because they can afford things like this even they have no luxury like the UAE or Saudi Arab which are oil rich countries and doing things for their own with money and power but still I am happy with them and their homework which is they doing for this game.
BCCI will never allow their players for any franchise league because they understand this all and just because of this ban they have the biggest revenue collected league in India which is not challengeable in current cricket world but hopefully few other leagues will be able to go ahead with their own and have better results even MCA can face few problems due to time and availability of International players.

I think the associate nations should have tried to make cricket more popular in their own country before launching the T20 league. But they might have thought that throughout this T20 league, they will make cricket more popular in their countries. I hope it will work.



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