Cricket match prediction discussions

[fuguebtc]

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will start in a few days from now. Sri Lanka and West Indies are the favorites to qualify, and other teams are fra behind them at lest on paper. Anyone believe that either of these two would fail to qualify? Among the other teams, Ireland and Netherlands are in bad shape and they have lost all of their recent matches. On top of that, Netherlands will be playing in this tournament without most of their top players. Zimbabwe will be having the home advantage, but they are also in poor form. Don't know much about the recent performance from Scotland, but Nepal may be able to win one or two matches. And I have zero hope for the other three teams - Oman, UAE and USA.

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.

So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

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[Sithara007]

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.

So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

[Vaskiy]

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.

So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

[fuguebtc]

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.
So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

Sithara007, Well, I couldn't agree more. This is certainly going to be from these four countries. And if we are being a little more precise I think we have to say that Sri Lanka and West Indies are going to be the ones. I am a little doubtful about them though. The performance that they have shown are not very convincing, to be honest.

Vaskiy, Of course, we cannot be sure about anything. It is actually hard to say since Sri Lanka and West Indies have not been very consistent. So obviously it is not 100% sure if they are actually going to be the teams to go ahead. But the expectation is obviously there from them.

[Sithara007]

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

Netherlands is a strong team, but this time none of their top players are available. At least 7-8 of their regular players (including Roelof van der Merwe, Fred Klaassen, Brandon Glover, Paul van Meekeren, Colin Ackermann, Timm van der Gugten and Shane Snater). As a result, they have sent a very young and inexperienced team. They are placed in a very tough group, along with two test nations (Zimbabwe and West Indies) and one team that is in peak form (Nepal). Only United States can be classified as a weak team in Group A. And their first match will be against a strong Zimbabwe.

[Juggy777]

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.
So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

Sithara007, Well, I couldn't agree more. This is certainly going to be from these four countries. And if we are being a little more precise I think we have to say that Sri Lanka and West Indies are going to be the ones. I am a little doubtful about them though. The performance that they have shown are not very convincing, to be honest.

Vaskiy, Of course, we cannot be sure about anything. It is actually hard to say since Sri Lanka and West Indies have not been very consistent. So obviously it is not 100% sure if they are actually going to be the teams to go ahead. But the expectation is obviously there from them.

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

[Sithara007]

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

[fuguebtc]

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

I really want to say that Sri Lanka and the West Indies are certainly going to qualify. But I also do not feel very confident saying that, to be honest. they are certainly better than the others. That’s what I can say for now.

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

I understand that Sri Lanka and the West Indies are a few levels above the others. But the inconsistency is a little too much to depend on them. Who knows maybe they will lose a crucial match! Who knows, maybe we will be surprised!

[darewaller]

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

There is no doubt about the level of Sri Lanka and West Indies but as things going down for these two teams and many Associates are bringing good performance this could be interested in next few years because now white-ball cricket is just have one or two good players on game day, and it's all gone I also sure most chances we will have Sri Lanka and West Indies in ODI World Cup but still Zimbabwe is also in with any good performance on match-day against these two big can bring them in good position.

Here I am feeling West Indies needs to improve their domestic setup and also needs to end problems with their players which are creating problems for them in last few years because if it's not going to end then surely things can go from bad to worse for them in coming years.

[eaLiTy]

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Here I am feeling West Indies needs to improve their domestic setup and also needs to end problems with their players which are creating problems for them in last few years because if it's not going to end then surely things can go from bad to worse for them in coming years.

West Indies is a group of countries and hence there might be some limitations on some of the aspects, they were the best team when Sir Garfield Sobers and Clive Lloyd used to scout the Caribbean Islands for talents and many of the legendary players were included in the team during that period especially the fearsome fast bowlers. You need a captain like that to scout for talents for you need an administrative team that are capable of doing that.

Now the main focus is on T20 and even though there are domestic competition players are inclined to play the shorter format because of global tournaments which offers huge monetary benefits. .  

[Dimitri94]

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

Here I am feeling West Indies needs to improve their domestic setup and also needs to end problems with their players which are creating problems for them in last few years because if it's not going to end then surely things can go from bad to worse for them in coming years.

Since 2005, the relationship between the players and the West Indies Cricket Board began to decrease. There, inconsistent behavior between the cricket board and the cricketers has gradually lowered the reputation of their cricket. Even now this problem is not solved. There are also allegations against the board that ICC funds are not properly distributed among the players. I think West Indies cricket will not improve until the board can develop a good relationship with their players.

[3kpk3]

The Ashes is going to start soon this year and I am very excited for it. England resurrected themselves in recent times thanks to their Bazball approach under the leadership of Stokes and McCullum.

On the other hand, Australia won the WTC recently after consistently great performances due to which they are on top of the rankings. Am favouring England slightly more than Australia due to their Bazball approach.

Am hoping for an exciting series between both these teams. Also, no rain issues hopefully.

[Sithara007]

Two days to go for the start of the 2023 ODI Cricket World Cup Qualifier. The grouping is as follows:

Group A:
Zimbabwe
Nepal
West Indies
Netherlands
United States

Group B:
Ireland   
Oman
Scotland
Sri Lanka
United Arab Emirates

My prediction is that the following teams would advance to the super-6 stage:
Group A: Zimbabwe, Nepal and West Indies
Group B: Ireland, Scotland and Sri Lanka

What happens in Super-6 is difficult to predict, for now.

[3kpk3]

My prediction is that the following teams would advance to the super-6 stage:
Group A: Zimbabwe, Nepal and West Indies
Group B: Ireland, Scotland and Sri Lanka

It's really tough to predict who will qualify for the super-6 stage apart from West Indies and Sri Lanka. I think that Netherlands, USA, Ireland and Scotland will join them in the next stage.

I would be stunned if West Indies or Sri Lanka or both would get knocked out in the super-6 stage.

[JSRAW]

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This sort of qualifier round tells the story of how badly ICC operates in general and is not interested in spreading the game.

All of them or at least 6 teams should've been qualified for the WC but only 2 teams will move into main groups. Ideally, every team should've played the qualifiers.

[Sithara007]

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This sort of qualifier round tells the story of how badly ICC operates in general and is not interested in spreading the game.

All of them or at least 6 teams should've been qualified for the WC but only 2 teams will move into main groups. Ideally, every team should've played the qualifiers.

I agree with you. At the most, direct qualification should be extended to two teams - the hosts, as well as the reigning champions. All others should be asked to participate in the qualifier tournament. But this time, 8 teams were granted direct qualification and just 2 teams will be selected from the qualifier tournament. Anyway from 2027 onwards, they are expanding the tournament to 14 teams. But again, top-8 teams would be provided with automatic qualification for that tournament. On top of that South Africa and Zimbabwe will be provided with automatic qualification since they are the hosts.

[Tony116]

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This sort of qualifier round tells the story of how badly ICC operates in general and is not interested in spreading the game.
All of them or at least 6 teams should've been qualified for the WC but only 2 teams will move into main groups. Ideally, every team should've played the qualifiers.

I agree with you. At the most, direct qualification should be extended to two teams - the hosts, as well as the reigning champions. All others should be asked to participate in the qualifier tournament. But this time, 8 teams were granted direct qualification and just 2 teams will be selected from the qualifier tournament. Anyway from 2027 onwards, they are expanding the tournament to 14 teams. But again, top-8 teams would be provided with automatic qualification for that tournament. On top of that South Africa and Zimbabwe will be provided with automatic qualification since they are the hosts.

There are a lot of teams playing in the qualifiers. It would have been great if at least four teams qualified for the World Cup from this. They could easily do that because it is not a hard job to select 4/5 teams from the 10 that are playing.

But of course, ICC is not interested in giving these teams any chance and they are only interested in making sure that West Indies and Sri Lanka qualify for the World Cup because that is going to generate them better money compared to if some associate country qualifies.

[Sithara007]

There are a lot of teams playing in the qualifiers. It would have been great if at least four teams qualified for the World Cup from this. They could easily do that because it is not a hard job to select 4/5 teams from the 10 that are playing.

But of course, ICC is not interested in giving these teams any chance and they are only interested in making sure that West Indies and Sri Lanka qualify for the World Cup because that is going to generate them better money compared to if some associate country qualifies.

The official explanation is that the media rights holders (Disney-Star) doesn't want smaller (i.e Associate) teams in the world cup. So the number of participants was reduced from 16 in the 2007 ODI World Cup to 10 as of now. But then the question remains. If only 10 nations are participating in this tournament (out of that 5 from the South Asian region), how can you call it as "World" cup? There should have been a middle way, which would make sure that some of the associate nations get to participate and also the media rights holders are happy. But as of now, not even all the full members (12) are included in the world cup.

[eaLiTy]

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If only 10 nations are participating in this tournament (out of that 5 from the South Asian region), how can you call it as "World" cup? There should have been a middle way, which would make sure that some of the associate nations get to participate and also the media rights holders are happy. But as of now, not even all the full members (12) are included in the world cup.

Countries that are playing Cricket are already playing in the World Cup and they need to have a level of performance to get qualified and the rest of the world is not even competitive to get a spot and 4 Asian teams got qualified till now and Sri Lanka is looking for a spot. You cannot complain the broadcasting team as they want competitive performance rather than one sided matches as ODI is not getting the spot like before after T20 matches became the norm for entertainment.

[Tony116]

The official explanation is that the media rights holders (Disney-Star) doesn't want smaller (i.e Associate) teams in the world cup. So the number of participants was reduced from 16 in the 2007 ODI World Cup to 10 as of now. But then the question remains. If only 10 nations are participating in this tournament (out of that 5 from the South Asian region), how can you call it as "World" cup? There should have been a middle way, which would make sure that some of the associate nations get to participate and also the media rights holders are happy. But as of now, not even all the full members (12) are included in the world cup.

Shouldn’t it be like ICC is going to tell how the tournament is going to be played out to the media rights holders? Why is ICC the one on the back foot in this situation? ICC has 104 members right now. Which means 104 teams are playing cricket professionally. And you are telling me they cannot manage to get 15 teams in the World Cup?

And why not even the full members be included in the World Cup? They just fear that if the big teams get eliminated early in the tournament the viewership is going to go down. And that certainly does not suit the media rights holders. Basically, it’s cricket that is suffering because ICC trying to generate more money again.