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April 21, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
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They are always going to be a very important country economically in the whole world. We all know that the big countries all around the world are always buying oil from them. And previously that’s why they have always been very important economically. But now as they have made the country open to visit for people all around the world, they are also earning money in that way.
Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

Honestly, I don’t think this much money being spent on cricket is actually justifiable when Indian players are not playing in the tournament. We know that Indian players are the ones who bring the most amount of revenue for cricket right now. So it is probably not the best idea to exclude Indian players from a tournament where a lot of money like this is going to be spent.

But on the other hand, if this is successful, it is also going to be a reality check for the Indian cricket board.

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April 21, 2023, 11:59:43 PM
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They are always going to be a very important country economically in the whole world. We all know that the big countries all around the world are always buying oil from them. And previously that’s why they have always been very important economically. But now as they have made the country open to visit for people all around the world, they are also earning money in that way.
Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

Honestly, I don’t think this much money being spent on cricket is actually justifiable when Indian players are not playing in the tournament. We know that Indian players are the ones who bring the most amount of revenue for cricket right now. So it is probably not the best idea to exclude Indian players from a tournament where a lot of money like this is going to be spent.

But on the other hand, if this is successful, it is also going to be a reality check for the Indian cricket board.
When it comes to cricket, India is the biggest market. The success of IPL is through the population that goes behind cricket same as that we see western population going behind football. Without India, rest of the Asian countries will give hands. Even with India, it is mentioned that the current players won't be allowed play on the league. Maybe the players who had played for India in the past can get good opportunity. This is completely a commercial initiative from the government, maybe that's the reason why Indian players were denied.
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April 22, 2023, 05:18:47 PM
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Honestly, I don’t think this much money being spent on cricket is actually justifiable when Indian players are not playing in the tournament. We know that Indian players are the ones who bring the most amount of revenue for cricket right now. So it is probably not the best idea to exclude Indian players from a tournament where a lot of money like this is going to be spent.
But on the other hand, if this is successful, it is also going to be a reality check for the Indian cricket board.
When it comes to cricket, India is the biggest market. The success of IPL is through the population that goes behind cricket same as that we see western population going behind football. Without India, rest of the Asian countries will give hands. Even with India, it is mentioned that the current players won't be allowed play on the league. Maybe the players who had played for India in the past can get good opportunity. This is completely a commercial initiative from the government, maybe that's the reason why Indian players were denied.

I am quite sure that the players who will actually go oppose the order of BCCI and try to play in these types of leagues, will not have any chance to play for India, or even in the IPL. Because that is not in the best interest of the BCCI at all. They always think that they are the best and they provide the best show for everyone. And they want to keep things that way.

I absolutely understand why, India thinks of doing that. But on the other hand, the player pool of India is really big. The players who are currently not actively playing in any Indian tournament, namely, IPL, or the national team, should be given a chance to play in other leagues in my opinion. But that also raises the question that probably the leagues are not interested in them actually.

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April 22, 2023, 05:45:52 PM
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Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

There is cricket in other countries also apart from India and there are leagues running successfully without Indian players. Already there are rumors that Saudi Arabia's cricket league plan could ruin India's IPL party. We need to see final plan of that cricket league before making a conclusion that it will be in profit or loss. This league if held will be beneficial for Pakistani players that are banned from participating in IPL. In fact it will help in breaking monoply of BCCI. 
I always wonder what will happen to billions of dollars that are earned by KSA due to Oil export but are residing in USA banks?

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April 22, 2023, 11:53:22 PM
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Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

There is cricket in other countries also apart from India and there are leagues running successfully without Indian players. Already there are rumors that Saudi Arabia's cricket league plan could ruin India's IPL party. We need to see final plan of that cricket league before making a conclusion that it will be in profit or loss. This league if held will be beneficial for Pakistani players that are banned from participating in IPL. In fact it will help in breaking monoply of BCCI. 
I always wonder what will happen to billions of dollars that are earned by KSA due to Oil export but are residing in USA banks?
We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.
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April 23, 2023, 04:11:01 AM
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We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.

Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.

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April 23, 2023, 05:12:56 AM
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We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.

Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.
Yes, there is logic in your statement in this regard. Today politics has reached a different level. Saudi Arabia and India have have good relation, maybe the Saudi government will want to exploit that opportunity and India will also carefully calculate their gains or losses. But as Saudi Arabia is very strong economically, they will try to dominate to some extent. I believe India will not try to hindrance to their league rather if it possible they will help them. Because these two countries have good economic relations.

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April 23, 2023, 10:18:22 AM
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Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.
Yes, there is logic in your statement in this regard. Today politics has reached a different level. Saudi Arabia and India have have good relation, maybe the Saudi government will want to exploit that opportunity and India will also carefully calculate their gains or losses. But as Saudi Arabia is very strong economically, they will try to dominate to some extent. I believe India will not try to hindrance to their league rather if it possible they will help them. Because these two countries have good economic relations.

Personally, I actually believe that there will be some problems for Saudi Arabia because they themselves don’t have the best players to attract spectators. And that would mean a large number of foreign players in each team. I think there is not going to be any restriction on the number of foreign players on the team. I believe it is going to be probably even 11 players, 11 foreign players in one team.

Anyway, even though I know that the relation between India and Saudi Arabia is currently good, I don’t think BCCI is actually going to help Saudi Arabia with anything when it comes to this Saudi cricket league. But another thing that can happen is, when it is the season of the Saudi cricket league, India will help them, and when it is time for the IPL, Saudi Arabia will also help India. Though I am not sure how that is going to work out.

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April 23, 2023, 01:04:56 PM
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We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.

Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.
Yes, there is logic in your statement in this regard. Today politics has reached a different level. Saudi Arabia and India have have good relation, maybe the Saudi government will want to exploit that opportunity and India will also carefully calculate their gains or losses. But as Saudi Arabia is very strong economically, they will try to dominate to some extent. I believe India will not try to hindrance to their league rather if it possible they will help them. Because these two countries have good economic relations.
Saudia Arabia Is a strong country and its league will definitely make alot of name in cricket world Arabs have alot of tendency to make their words real.
In my opinion Indians and Saudis will eventually end up together for growth of the cricket in Saudi Arabia. 
Indians have alot of skills as far as diplomatic relations are concerned.

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April 23, 2023, 02:08:58 PM
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In every season of IPL, RCB conducts one match as Green Day. And in that match they usually wear the jersey color green. The main aim of celebrating Green Day by Match is to inspire people to make the world pollution free and green. 

Do you know how their green jersey is made today and what are the main materials of this jersey? If you don't know about this then let me tell you,
they used 19428 water bottles and 9047 kg of garbage to make this jersey today. You may be wondering from where the RCB authorities collected so many bottles. Basically all the bottles that were in the stadium during RCB's first home match were collected to make this jersey.

These bottles are recycled into jerseys in a few steps. Those who have doubts about these issues can visit RCB's official Twitter page. Hope you will get all the related news there.

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April 23, 2023, 03:59:24 PM
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In every season of IPL, RCB conducts one match as Green Day. And in that match they usually wear the jersey color green. The main aim of celebrating Green Day by Match is to inspire people to make the world pollution free and green.  

Do you know how their green jersey is made today and what are the main materials of this jersey? If you don't know about this then let me tell you,
they used 19428 water bottles and 9047 kg of garbage to make this jersey today. You may be wondering from where the RCB authorities collected so many bottles. Basically all the bottles that were in the stadium during RCB's first home match were collected to make this jersey.

These bottles are recycled into jerseys in a few steps. Those who have doubts about these issues can visit RCB's official Twitter page. Hope you will get all the related news there.

This is actually a very good step towards saving the environment. I think this is certainly a good and genuine thought. At least they are not like Apple (remember them saying that they are removing the charger from the box for saving the environment and when they launched the new phone with slim box they celebrated the launch day with fireworks)  Grin.

The step taken by IPL is certainly not going to have the biggest impact on the environment. But it is going to have an impact.

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April 25, 2023, 02:59:11 AM
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Saudia Arabia Is a strong country and its league will definitely make alot of name in cricket world Arabs have alot of tendency to make their words real.
In my opinion Indians and Saudis will eventually end up together for growth of the cricket in Saudi Arabia. 
Indians have alot of skills as far as diplomatic relations are concerned.

The problem is that the market for cricket is already saturated. IPL takes away 3 months every year from the calendar and then there are bilateral tours by the Indian team and the ICC tournaments. There is simply not enough spare time available to accommodate the Saudi league. And the BCCI is not that stupid to allow the Saudi Arabian Cricket Federation to take control of the Indian market. It will negatively impact the popularity of the IPL, and in turn the BCCI revenues will nosedive. So in all probability, the Saudis are going to pour tons of money in to the new league and they are not going to get anything in return. 

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Saudia Arabia Is a strong country and its league will definitely make alot of name in cricket world Arabs have alot of tendency to make their words real.
In my opinion Indians and Saudis will eventually end up together for growth of the cricket in Saudi Arabia. 
Indians have alot of skills as far as diplomatic relations are concerned.

The problem is that the market for cricket is already saturated. IPL takes away 3 months every year from the calendar and then there are bilateral tours by the Indian team and the ICC tournaments. There is simply not enough spare time available to accommodate the Saudi league. And the BCCI is not that stupid to allow the Saudi Arabian Cricket Federation to take control of the Indian market. It will negatively impact the popularity of the IPL, and in turn the BCCI revenues will nosedive. So in all probability, the Saudis are going to pour tons of money in to the new league and they are not going to get anything in return. 

@Sithara007 while I definitely agree with you on almost all the points, but I do have a different opinion on this because for starter’s BCCI could send their reserve squad of player’s to get some experience and then these player’s would fetch higher price during the IPL auction.

Secondly BCCI would command higher revenue share for sharing their player’s, hence they’ll always get additional revenue from this and honestly I don’t think that any league can impact IPL popularity thus BCCI maybe tempted to make additional money as and when this league begins.
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In all of Saudi's new tourney debates, everyone keeps forgetting who'll watch another random league, even if it's expensive (from a player's point of view only)when Indian players are not participating in it.

Even let's say BCCI agrees to send some players into this league, they won't be capped or contracted players and the main issue would be sustainability (schedule is another obstacle) despite Saudis having deep pockets.

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In all of Saudi's new tourney debates, everyone keeps forgetting who'll watch another random league, even if it's expensive (from a player's point of view only)when Indian players are not participating in it.

Even let's say BCCI agrees to send some players into this league, they won't be capped or contracted players and the main issue would be sustainability (schedule is another obstacle) despite Saudis having deep pockets.

I don't think that sustainability is a concern for the Saudis. They brought Cristiano Ronaldo to their country by paying a massive amount. They know that it will be impossible to get returns of even half of that amount. What they want is publicity and acceptance among the global community. At this point, they are not focusing on revenues or sustainability. And once again, the BCCI will not send any of the active players to this tournament (irrespective of whether they are capped or not). They don't have any reason to do otherwise.   

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In all of Saudi's new tourney debates, everyone keeps forgetting who'll watch another random league, even if it's expensive (from a player's point of view only)when Indian players are not participating in it.

Even let's say BCCI agrees to send some players into this league, they won't be capped or contracted players and the main issue would be sustainability (schedule is another obstacle) despite Saudis having deep pockets.

I don't think that sustainability is a concern for the Saudis. They brought Cristiano Ronaldo to their country by paying a massive amount. They know that it will be impossible to get returns of even half of that amount. What they want is publicity and acceptance among the global community. At this point, they are not focusing on revenues or sustainability. And once again, the BCCI will not send any of the active players to this tournament (irrespective of whether they are capped or not). They don't have any reason to do otherwise.   
They are free to do that, like i said it's good for players for sure but it's not good for business in any sense. Also, the football market is not concentrated or dominated by just one market, it's spread fairly enough.

That's not the case with cricket, where only one country generates eyeballs. I fail to understand why people avoid connecting the dots of ICC media rights in this context, it's in front of everyone still no one considering it. The rest of the cricketing world not paying money to watch ICC tournaments and somehow people think that they will watch random t-20 leagues.

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April 25, 2023, 04:49:03 PM
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In all of Saudi's new tourney debates, everyone keeps forgetting who'll watch another random league, even if it's expensive (from a player's point of view only)when Indian players are not participating in it.

Even let's say BCCI agrees to send some players into this league, they won't be capped or contracted players and the main issue would be sustainability (schedule is another obstacle) despite Saudis having deep pockets.
In reality this is going to be not good idea for the Saudi's because schedule and BCCI both are the biggest concerns for them and things are not going into positive way from the start which is also big problem even we will have some favour from PCB, BCB and SLCB but still it's going to be not ideal situation for this league because they can't achieve their targeted results with these countries while we have 75% Indian hold on this market even in Gulf, USA and European Indians will be not interested in case if we have this league without Indian intention.

They are late in this which is the biggest problem and with this right now we have not strong market like soccer which helps them in near future as well now they need to work on their domestic system and try to have better things which can help them for long run even this is also not ideal for them because of their geo problems.
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They are free to do that, like i said it's good for players for sure but it's not good for business in any sense. Also, the football market is not concentrated or dominated by just one market, it's spread fairly enough.

That's not the case with cricket, where only one country generates eyeballs. I fail to understand why people avoid connecting the dots of ICC media rights in this context, it's in front of everyone still no one considering it. The rest of the cricketing world not paying money to watch ICC tournaments and somehow people think that they will watch random t-20 leagues.

The ICC hasn't yet released the final numbers from the media rights auction. But from the available information, it looks as if 88% to 90% of the revenues originate from India. Take India out of the equation, and cricket cease to be one of the top-10 sports in terms of revenue generation. I am not sure how much money the Saudis are planning to splurge. If the amounts are quite large, then they maybe able to convince some of the top Indian cricketers (who are close to retirement) to sign up for them. I am talking about players such as Mahendra Singh Dhoni and Shikhar Dhawan. But then remember that these players are already receiving $1.0 to $1.5 million per year from the IPL. In order to lure them, they need to spend 3-4 times this amount (similar to how they got Cristiano Ronaldo playing in Saudi Arabia).

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April 26, 2023, 05:03:46 PM
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They are free to do that, like i said it's good for players for sure but it's not good for business in any sense. Also, the football market is not concentrated or dominated by just one market, it's spread fairly enough.
That's not the case with cricket, where only one country generates eyeballs. I fail to understand why people avoid connecting the dots of ICC media rights in this context, it's in front of everyone still no one considering it. The rest of the cricketing world not paying money to watch ICC tournaments and somehow people think that they will watch random t-20 leagues.
The ICC hasn't yet released the final numbers from the media rights auction. But from the available information, it looks as if 88% to 90% of the revenues originate from India. Take India out of the equation, and cricket cease to be one of the top-10 sports in terms of revenue generation. I am not sure how much money the Saudis are planning to splurge. If the amounts are quite large, then they maybe able to convince some of the top Indian cricketers (who are close to retirement) to sign up for them. I am talking about players such as Mahendra Singh Dhoni and Shikhar Dhawan. But then remember that these players are already receiving $1.0 to $1.5 million per year from the IPL. In order to lure them, they need to spend 3-4 times this amount (similar to how they got Cristiano Ronaldo playing in Saudi Arabia).

I believe that even if they do bring in some Indian players that are old and close to retirement, they are still not going to attract a good number of spectators. They will need to bring in those Indian players who are actually performing really well right now the current superstars of India.

Players like Suryakumar Yadav and others who are generally showing good entertainment in T20. Without the actual players who are superstars right now in India don't think the Saudi Cricket League is going to be able to shine properly. After all, we all know that they are the biggest revenue generator for cricket

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April 26, 2023, 05:30:49 PM
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Yes, there is logic in your statement in this regard. Today politics has reached a different level. Saudi Arabia and India have have good relation, maybe the Saudi government will want to exploit that opportunity and India will also carefully calculate their gains or losses. But as Saudi Arabia is very strong economically, they will try to dominate to some extent. I believe India will not try to hindrance to their league rather if it possible they will help them. Because these two countries have good economic relations.

India has emerged as one of top global economy in recent years. Still I don't think it will be a good idea for India to annoy one of there finest business partner aka MBS. Even India doesn't joined this party then there are plenty more options for Saudi to choose from.
I was reading on NDTV that Saudis want IPL owners to set up richest league in Saudi. That's MBS way of involving IPL management into Saudi league.

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