Cricket match prediction discussions

[noormcs5]

In many matches I have seen when a medium fast bowler comes to bowl wicket keepers and batsmen are batting without helmet which is very dangerous because the most sensitive part of our body is our brain is likely to occur. Such rules are usually made to avoid that accident. 

Tell me if you have any evidence of the mishaps that happened in international cricket where any fielder is severely injured who is standing close to the batsmen without an helmet ?
The wicketkeepers, batsmen, and fielders are well aware of their security and they always wear helmets when necessary without the advice from ICC.

I don't think any wicket keeper will react to ICC's imposition of this rule as it is purely for his own safety.

Well, it's just that no one has the courage to speak as these rules regarding helmets are unnecessary and most of them are already being followed by players world wide.

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[Sithara007]

I do not understand why the associate countries are trying to set up their own T20 league. After all, they should look at the countries who are actually trying that end feeling or not doing a very good job at it. In India and Australia, they are self-sufficient. Even if no one from the outside countries what's them they have enough population themselves to actually make positive revenue.

I am OK, if they are setting up a small-scale league with county players in overseas contingent. On the other hand, if they are planning for a league on a grand level, by including all the T20 superstars on a $500,000 per player contract, then I am not very hopeful. That money could be better spent on popularizing the sport or to build new infrastructural facilities. And I have always suggested this - rather than setting up leagues in individual countries, multiple countries should come together to have a single league. For example, PSL can include teams from Afghanistan, UAE and Nepal.

[noormcs5]

I do not understand why the associate countries are trying to set up their own T20 league. After all, they should look at the countries who are actually trying that end feeling or not doing a very good job at it. In India and Australia, they are self-sufficient. Even if no one from the outside countries what's them they have enough population themselves to actually make positive revenue.

I am OK, if they are setting up a small-scale league with county players in overseas contingent. On the other hand, if they are planning for a league on a grand level, by including all the T20 superstars on a $500,000 per player contract, then I am not very hopeful. That money could be better spent on popularizing the sport or to build new infrastructural facilities. And I have always suggested this - rather than setting up leagues in individual countries, multiple countries should come together to have a single league. For example, PSL can include teams from Afghanistan, UAE and Nepal.

If every country comes up with its own T20 league, it won't attract any attraction even if they spend a lot of money on domestic and also on hiring foreign players. I think only the Indian Premiere league (IPL) has the highest viewership and audience worldwide. The rest of the popular leagues like Big Bash or PSL mostly attract the local population.

It will be just a waste of time and money if the small countries' boards start to focus on conducting leagues and not focusing on building their own infrastructure. Yeah, leagues may bring in some instant capital but if any country has a strong team, it would be more beneficial for them.

[MusaPk]

If every country comes up with its own T20 league, it won't attract any attraction even if they spend a lot of money on domestic and also on hiring foreign players. I think only the Indian Premiere league (IPL) has the highest viewership and audience worldwide. The rest of the popular leagues like Big Bash or PSL mostly attract the local population.

It will be just a waste of time and money if the small countries' boards start to focus on conducting leagues and not focusing on building their own infrastructure. Yeah, leagues may bring in some instant capital but if any country has a strong team, it would be more beneficial for them.

Every country has its own league since its now a trend to have your own league plus T20 league generates good revenue. I heard Najam Sethi saying that due to PSL our dependence on icc for funds has gone down significantly as PSL is giving good revenue. Only IPL has global viewership because players from all countries are there.

[JSRAW]

In many matches I have seen when a medium fast bowler comes to bowl wicket keepers and batsmen are batting without helmet which is very dangerous because the most sensitive part of our body is our brain is likely to occur. Such rules are usually made to avoid that accident. 

Tell me if you have any evidence of the mishaps that happened in international cricket where any fielder is severely injured who is standing close to the batsmen without an helmet ?
The wicketkeepers, batsmen, and fielders are well aware of their security and they always wear helmets when necessary without the advice from ICC.

For starters, Raman Lamba comes to my mind. There might be more names if we dig more.

He was playing in Bangladesh's local test match, the spinner was bowling and he was fielding at a forward short leg and got hit on the head. He died after a few days

[Sithara007]

If every country comes up with its own T20 league, it won't attract any attraction even if they spend a lot of money on domestic and also on hiring foreign players. I think only the Indian Premiere league (IPL) has the highest viewership and audience worldwide. The rest of the popular leagues like Big Bash or PSL mostly attract the local population.

It will be just a waste of time and money if the small countries' boards start to focus on conducting leagues and not focusing on building their own infrastructure. Yeah, leagues may bring in some instant capital but if any country has a strong team, it would be more beneficial for them.

BBL and Hundred are franchise leagues standing up on their own. I have the same opinion about the CPL as well, but most of their revenue comes from the Indian market. PSL revenues have grown over the years, but they will benefit immensely if they include one team each from Afghanistan and Nepal. BPL is declining, in terms of revenue and popularity. A good option would be to have a deal with PCB and get 3-4 BPL franchises in the PSL. But existing political scenarios would make such a deal impossible. The same with LPL as well. Perhaps BPL and LPL can be merged together, with 4 franchises from each country (total of 8, with 4 from Bangladesh and 4 from Sri Lanka).

[eaLiTy]

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For starters, Raman Lamba comes to my mind. There might be more names if we dig more.

He was playing in Bangladesh's local test match, the spinner was bowling and he was fielding at a forward short leg and got hit on the head. He died after a few days

Raman Lamba incident was back in late 90s and it was a club match and there were no recording of the incident as far as i remember.

Mark Boucher the South African legendary wicketkeeper unfortunately ended his career when the bail dislodged and injured his eye and he was not wearing any sun glasses or protection and after that incident every Wicketkeeper uses sunglasses and protection while standing up to the stumps. Funny thing is that the Mark Boucher incident happened in 2012 and ICC enforced that rules almost a decade later while all the fielders in close are already wearing enough protective gear.

[JSRAW]

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For starters, Raman Lamba comes to my mind. There might be more names if we dig more.

He was playing in Bangladesh's local test match, the spinner was bowling and he was fielding at a forward short leg and got hit on the head. He died after a few days

Raman Lamba incident was back in late 90s and it was a club match and there were no recording of the incident as far as i remember.

Mark Boucher the South African legendary wicketkeeper unfortunately ended his career when the bail dislodged and injured his eye and he was not wearing any sun glasses or protection and after that incident every Wicketkeeper uses sunglasses and protection while standing up to the stumps. Funny thing is that the Mark Boucher incident happened in 2012 and ICC enforced that rules almost a decade later while all the fielders in close are already wearing enough protective gear.

That guy was asking for one example and I happened to remember Raman Lamba's name because I heard his example so many times in local cricket, regarding safety. I guess anyone who played cricket in a local tournament (leather ball tourneys), does remember his name.

Tbh never heard Boucher's story and wasn't aware of that. 

[Sithara007]

Has anyone have any updates in the Asia Cup? In Pakistan a lot of drama is going on. Rambo has termed Najam Sethi as "mentally unstable" after the latter proposed to move the tournament to England. Anyway, how can a tournament that is specific to the Asian continent be moved to an European country? The BCCI is still firm in its demand that the tournament needs to be moved out of Pakistan, while the SLCB and BCB have stated that they are OK with the hybrid model that is proposed by the PCB. Former Pakistan player Salman Butt has come up with a bizarre proposal BTW. His suggestion is to have the tournament to be held in England, with 6 teams from Asia (those who already qualified) and 4 from Europe (England, Scotland, Ireland and Netherlands). He claims that this "Euro-Asian cup" will act as a rehearsal for the ODI world cup.

[JSRAW]

Has anyone have any updates in the Asia Cup? In Pakistan a lot of drama is going on. Rambo has termed Najam Sethi as "mentally unstable" after the latter proposed to move the tournament to England. Anyway, how can a tournament that is specific to the Asian continent be moved to an European country? The BCCI is still firm in its demand that the tournament needs to be moved out of Pakistan, while the SLCB and BCB have stated that they are OK with the hybrid model that is proposed by the PCB. Former Pakistan player Salman Butt has come up with a bizarre proposal BTW. His suggestion is to have the tournament to be held in England, with 6 teams from Asia (those who already qualified) and 4 from Europe (England, Scotland, Ireland and Netherlands). He claims that this "Euro-Asian cup" will act as a rehearsal for the ODI world cup.

Frankly, anyone who occupies the PCB's chair becomes a mentally unstable individual.

The amount of interviews Sethi Sahab gives to every media (except pak media) nowadays indicates the same. It shows the desperation and the funny part is BCCI hardly takes anything seriously.

Although they did say no to "Australia as host" regarding bilateral tests series (Ind vs Pak). Context ** Sethi gave an interview regarding Australia hosting India vs Pakistan.

[Tony116]

If every country comes up with its own T20 league, it won't attract any attraction even if they spend a lot of money on domestic and also on hiring foreign players. I think only the Indian Premiere league (IPL) has the highest viewership and audience worldwide. The rest of the popular leagues like Big Bash or PSL mostly attract the local population.
It will be just a waste of time and money if the small countries' boards start to focus on conducting leagues and not focusing on building their own infrastructure. Yeah, leagues may bring in some instant capital but if any country has a strong team, it would be more beneficial for them.

BBL and Hundred are franchise leagues standing up on their own. I have the same opinion about the CPL as well, but most of their revenue comes from the Indian market. PSL revenues have grown over the years, but they will benefit immensely if they include one team each from Afghanistan and Nepal. BPL is declining, in terms of revenue and popularity. A good option would be to have a deal with PCB and get 3-4 BPL franchises in the PSL. But existing political scenarios would make such a deal impossible. The same with LPL as well. Perhaps BPL and LPL can be merged together, with 4 franchises from each country (total of 8, with 4 from Bangladesh and 4 from Sri Lanka).

A T20 league is not going to be sustainable in the long run if it does not have viewers. And I genuinely think that these associate countries are not going to have good enough viewers to actually make a profit from these. I honestly only consider the T20 league which are arranged by India, Australia, and England to be the actual interesting one. Other than that the T20 tournaments that are being introduced by other countries are actually not very fun or competitive. They also do not have many spectators as well.

All the associate countries trying to set up the T20 league are actually going to create a void which is never going to be fulfilled in my opinion. That's because they are simply not enough people wanting to see the associate countries play.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Has anyone have any updates in the Asia Cup? In Pakistan a lot of drama is going on. Rambo has termed Najam Sethi as "mentally unstable" after the latter proposed to move the tournament to England. Anyway, how can a tournament that is specific to the Asian continent be moved to an European country? The BCCI is still firm in its demand that the tournament needs to be moved out of Pakistan, while the SLCB and BCB have stated that they are OK with the hybrid model that is proposed by the PCB. Former Pakistan player Salman Butt has come up with a bizarre proposal BTW. His suggestion is to have the tournament to be held in England, with 6 teams from Asia (those who already qualified) and 4 from Europe (England, Scotland, Ireland and Netherlands). He claims that this "Euro-Asian cup" will act as a rehearsal for the ODI world cup.

Frankly, anyone who occupies the PCB's chair becomes a mentally unstable individual.

The amount of interviews Sethi Sahab gives to every media (except pak media) nowadays indicates the same. It shows the desperation and the funny part is BCCI hardly takes anything seriously.

Although they did say no to "Australia as host" regarding bilateral tests series (Ind vs Pak). Context ** Sethi gave an interview regarding Australia hosting India vs Pakistan.

Hosting Asia Cup is still a question mark and Najam Sethi is giving too many illogical statements at this time dint know what his issue Is.
Apart from Asia cup nothing is important right now why come up with India Pakistan Bilateral series,  the model given by them is according to BCCI demands so let's see what will be the final verdict on this matter .

[Sithara007]

Frankly, anyone who occupies the PCB's chair becomes a mentally unstable individual.

The amount of interviews Sethi Sahab gives to every media (except pak media) nowadays indicates the same. It shows the desperation and the funny part is BCCI hardly takes anything seriously.

Although they did say no to "Australia as host" regarding bilateral tests series (Ind vs Pak). Context ** Sethi gave an interview regarding Australia hosting India vs Pakistan.

PCB seems to be desperate to increase their revenue and a series between India and Pakistan can be life-changing for them. But the problem is that such a series is not important for the BCCI, who are swimming in wads of money (IPL media rights, increased allocation from the ICC and now the next cycle of bilateral media rights is up for auction). The silver lining for PCB is that their financial condition is set to improve, as the ICC has increased allocation by 116%, from $16 million per year (2015-23) to $34.51 million per year (2024-27 period). 

[posi]

Has anyone have any updates in the Asia Cup? In Pakistan a lot of drama is going on. Rambo has termed Najam Sethi as "mentally unstable" after the latter proposed to move the tournament to England. Anyway, how can a tournament that is specific to the Asian continent be moved to an European country? The BCCI is still firm in its demand that the tournament needs to be moved out of Pakistan, while the SLCB and BCB have stated that they are OK with the hybrid model that is proposed by the PCB. Former Pakistan player Salman Butt has come up with a bizarre proposal BTW. His suggestion is to have the tournament to be held in England, with 6 teams from Asia (those who already qualified) and 4 from Europe (England, Scotland, Ireland and Netherlands). He claims that this "Euro-Asian cup" will act as a rehearsal for the ODI world cup.

Frankly, anyone who occupies the PCB's chair becomes a mentally unstable individual.
The amount of interviews Sethi Sahab gives to every media (except pak media) nowadays indicates the same. It shows the desperation and the funny part is BCCI hardly takes anything seriously.
Although they did say no to "Australia as host" regarding bilateral tests series (Ind vs Pak). Context ** Sethi gave an interview regarding Australia hosting India vs Pakistan.

I actually do not want to get engaged into this drama. I really want to see the end of it. I understand that Pakistan is currently not a very safe country. The political situation and also the economic situation of Pakistan are not good at all right now.

So the safe decision is going to be moving the Asia Cup to a neutral place. At first, I thought England or Australia is not going to be a good idea. But on second thought I believe it is not going to be bad honestly. BCCI might actually want that as it will give them a good experience outside the subcontinent conditions.

[JSRAW]

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PCB seems to be desperate to increase their revenue and a series between India and Pakistan can be life-changing for them. But the problem is that such a series is not important for the BCCI, who are swimming in wads of money (IPL media rights, increased allocation from the ICC and now the next cycle of bilateral media rights is up for auction). The silver lining for PCB is that their financial condition is set to improve, as the ICC has increased allocation by 116%, from $16 million per year (2015-23) to $34.51 million per year (2024-27 period). 

Yup, only desperation nothing else.

BTW he also raised his voice regarding the ICC revenue model, to his credit he did acknowledge that BCCI deserves a big share. His objection focus on the revenue formula, which actually looks weird on paper.

So the safe decision is going to be moving the Asia Cup to a neutral place. At first, I thought England or Australia is not going to be a good idea. But on second thought I believe it is not going to be bad honestly. BCCI might actually want that as it will give them a good experience outside the subcontinent conditions.

Asia Cup in Europe and Oceanic countries when ODI World Cup is scheduled in the Indian subcontinent. Not a wise decision IMO.

[posi]

So the safe decision is going to be moving the Asia Cup to a neutral place. At first, I thought England or Australia is not going to be a good idea. But on second thought I believe it is not going to be bad honestly. BCCI might actually want that as it will give them a good experience outside the subcontinent conditions.

Asia Cup in Europe and Oceanic countries when ODI World Cup is scheduled in the Indian subcontinent. Not a wise decision IMO.

Well, UAE is always an option. Don't think anyone is going to oppose that idea, to be honest. Pakistani should understand that the situation is not right for Pakistan to host the Asia Cup right now. For actually any tournament as a matter of fact.

So, I don't think Pakistan will stand by their word for not participating in the world cup if the Asia Cup gets moved to another venue. It is true that Pakistan is not going to get the benefit that they could help get from the home ground. But it is what it is.

[JSRAW]

So the safe decision is going to be moving the Asia Cup to a neutral place. At first, I thought England or Australia is not going to be a good idea. But on second thought I believe it is not going to be bad honestly. BCCI might actually want that as it will give them a good experience outside the subcontinent conditions.

Asia Cup in Europe and Oceanic countries when ODI World Cup is scheduled in the Indian subcontinent. Not a wise decision IMO.

Well, UAE is always an option. Don't think anyone is going to oppose that idea, to be honest. Pakistani should understand that the situation is not right for Pakistan to host the Asia Cup right now. For actually any tournament as a matter of fact.

So, I don't think Pakistan will stand by their word for not participating in the world cup if the Asia Cup gets moved to another venue. It is true that Pakistan is not going to get the benefit that they could help get from the home ground. But it is what it is.

Yeah you are right, no one is going to oppose UAE as a venue but if i am being honest most of the tournaments scheduled there seem quite boring because of the toss. It's almost certain that "win the toss and win the match scenario".

It happened with the IPL, Asia Cup and T-20 WC so personally would like to see SL or Ban (or maybe together) hosting the Asia Cup. 

[MusaPk]

PCB seems to be desperate to increase their revenue and a series between India and Pakistan can be life-changing for them. But the problem is that such a series is not important for the BCCI, who are swimming in wads of money (IPL media rights, increased allocation from the ICC and now the next cycle of bilateral media rights is up for auction). The silver lining for PCB is that their financial condition is set to improve, as the ICC has increased allocation by 116%, from $16 million per year (2015-23) to $34.51 million per year (2024-27 period).  

PCB is not happy with ICC new revenue distribution model as Najam Sethi wants clarity on how figures are calculated. PCB chairman saying that we have no objection on India getting bigger share but ICC must tell how these figures are calculated. The amount of money BCCI is getting from IPL, I think 231 Million USD are not a huge money for them.

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PCB is not happy with ICC new revenue distribution model as Najam Sethi wants clarity on how figures are calculated. PCB chairman saying that we have no objection on India getting bigger share but ICC must tell how these figures are calculated. The amount of money BCCI is getting from IPL, I think 231 Million USD are not a huge money for them.

[n0ne]

PCB seems to be desperate to increase their revenue and a series between India and Pakistan can be life-changing for them. But the problem is that such a series is not important for the BCCI, who are swimming in wads of money (IPL media rights, increased allocation from the ICC and now the next cycle of bilateral media rights is up for auction). The silver lining for PCB is that their financial condition is set to improve, as the ICC has increased allocation by 116%, from $16 million per year (2015-23) to $34.51 million per year (2024-27 period).  

PCB is not happy with ICC new revenue distribution model as Najam Sethi wants clarity on how figures are calculated. PCB chairman saying that we have no objection on India getting bigger share but ICC must tell how these figures are calculated. The amount of money BCCI is getting from IPL, I think 231 Million USD are not a huge money for them.

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PCB is not happy with ICC new revenue distribution model as Najam Sethi wants clarity on how figures are calculated. PCB chairman saying that we have no objection on India getting bigger share but ICC must tell how these figures are calculated. The amount of money BCCI is getting from IPL, I think 231 Million USD are not a huge money for them.

PCB is the only board that tries to get some answers. The distribution is fair, and most have got good increase in the allocation. This could help with the improvement. However the difference between what India received against the other teams is really big. PCB had delayed its PSL, maybe if they've started it earlier they could've got good revenue by now. Because in terms of cricket supporters we were able to see a good number in Pakistan.

[Sithara007]

PCB is the only board that tries to get some answers. The distribution is fair, and most have got good increase in the allocation. This could help with the improvement. However the difference between what India received against the other teams is really big. PCB had delayed its PSL, maybe if they've started it earlier they could've got good revenue by now. Because in terms of cricket supporters we were able to see a good number in Pakistan.

IMO, the revenue allocation should have been purely based on performance in ICC tournaments (this is what other sports bodies such as the FIFA does). This would have given a higher share to teams such as Australia and lower share for the BCCI. The logic of allocating 39% of all the funds to one country doesn't make sense. In the long term, this will ensure the death of cricket in most of the countries outside South Asia. Already we are witnessing the signs in South Africa, West Indies and associate nations such as Netherlands.