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June 17, 2013, 03:43:27 AM
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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

The answer is because idiots are an infinite resource (dubious resource, granted).  I'm dead serious when I say this: We still get people claiming we never shipped any FPGAs.  I'm not being dramatic or exaggerating things... literally, we still get that fairly regularly.  It's amazing the cognitive disconnect so many people have with regards to reality.


Well, all I can say is - I got my fpga order ahead of the estimated delivery date. And promptly ordered sc upgrades when they were offered. I know BFL intends to deliver my SC products as well. Sure it would have been nice to have them last year... but you guys aren't putting rounded corners on a cell phone here... or reinventing something that's already been done 1000 times before - you're creating a cutting edge product. I understand how much work and time that can take. As an aside, I find it highly ironic given all the obstacles BFL has had to overcome in the last year to get the products shipping, that the other guys are still behind on mh/s/j. Mythical mismanagement issues aside...

Speaking as a customer my only discontent with BFL was the previous lack of communication with customer. So I just wanted to take this chance to publicly thank you specifically Josh for going above and beyond on correcting that, it's really nice to get updates and your actual customers really do appreciate all of your hard work (not to mention everybody else at over at BFL).


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June 17, 2013, 03:49:40 AM
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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

The answer is because idiots are an infinite resource (dubious resource, granted).  I'm dead serious when I say this: We still get people claiming we never shipped any FPGAs.  I'm not being dramatic or exaggerating things... literally, we still get that fairly regularly.  It's amazing the cognitive disconnect so many people have with regards to reality.


So are you really selling chips before you satisfy all of the customer orders you currently have or is that untrue as well?

A perfect example of my above statement. Thank you for providing it.

I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

The answer is because idiots are an infinite resource (dubious resource, granted).  I'm dead serious when I say this: We still get people claiming we never shipped any FPGAs.  I'm not being dramatic or exaggerating things... literally, we still get that fairly regularly.  It's amazing the cognitive disconnect so many people have with regards to reality.


Well, all I can say is - I got my fpga order ahead of the estimated delivery date. And promptly ordered sc upgrades when they were offered. I know BFL intends to deliver my SC products as well. Sure it would have been nice to have them last year... but you guys aren't putting rounded corners on a cell phone here... or reinventing something that's already been done 1000 times before - you're creating a cutting edge product. I understand how much work and time that can take. As an aside, I find it highly ironic given all the obstacles BFL has had to overcome in the last year to get the products shipping, that the other guys are still behind on mh/s/j. Mythical mismanagement issues aside...

Speaking as a customer my only discontent with BFL was the previous lack of communication with customer. So I just wanted to take this chance to publicly thank you specifically Josh for going above and beyond on correcting that, it's really nice to get updates and your actual customers really do appreciate all of your hard work (not to mention everybody else at over at BFL).

You are quite welcome and you're quite correct.  It's taken a lot of work to get to this point and we are pretty set going forward.  It's unfortunate that we were late with the product, but we do have the most advanced chip and board out there, the next few months should prove fairly interesting.

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June 17, 2013, 03:57:02 AM
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So are you ever going to answer the question or are you just going to dance around it. I wasn't rude to you. You could simply say, no that is untrue. We are not selling chips.

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June 17, 2013, 04:02:20 AM
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So are you ever going to answer the question or are you just going to dance around it. I wasn't rude to you. You could simply say, no that is untrue. We are not selling chips.

Here's a post by Josh announcing the chip sales, if that suffices.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/65nm-asic-bitcoin-mining-chip.html

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June 17, 2013, 04:04:05 AM
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So are you ever going to answer the question or are you just going to dance around it. I wasn't rude to you. You could simply say, no that is untrue. We are not selling chips.

Here's a post by Josh announcing the chip sales, if that suffices.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/65nm-asic-bitcoin-mining-chip.html



Thanks, that's all I wanted to know.

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June 17, 2013, 04:10:29 AM
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So are you ever going to answer the question or are you just going to dance around it. I wasn't rude to you. You could simply say, no that is untrue. We are not selling chips.

Here's a post by Josh announcing the chip sales, if that suffices.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/65nm-asic-bitcoin-mining-chip.html



Thanks, that's all I wanted to know.

Apologies, that's just the store link. The url I meant to post was:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3014-butterfly-labs-announces-bulk-chip-sales.html

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June 17, 2013, 04:12:02 AM
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Unfortunately the stream of idiots is in fact drying up as pre-orders for BFL products aren't selling like they use to on ebay, which means people are getting wise and the suckers who have been conned don't have enough money to be reconned.

Sure FPGA have been shipped but that was just to set up the con. Produce a viable product, which adds  credibility to your operation, then offer an extraordinary product with an open ended "delivery date" insert a few shills who have gotten their "product" and keep the scheme going for as long as possible.

You idiots who got conned will find out in a year or two that the only thing you have to show for the money you spent is a piece of paper from BFL which will serve as a reminder of your idiocy.

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June 17, 2013, 04:18:45 AM
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Yes, hundreds of people are a "few" shills.

Once again, a fine example of my above statement.


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June 17, 2013, 04:21:33 AM
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I think there here to stay
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June 17, 2013, 05:23:21 AM
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It's amazing to me that newbies come here right out of jail to post. On both sides of the issue! I think there's like only four people actually posting here. Two on one side and two on the other. lol

I gotta admit that this is fun to watch though.

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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

I wonder why people are to0 lazy to read the posts explaining why they're scammers.

BFL said every month since OCT 2012 that they were on the verge of delivering only to get pre-orders in. The ones that ask for a refund get their money back. Sounds innocent enough right?

Well that funds RnD and that is tax free loans at 0% interest.

Perpetual pre-order/refund setup while knowing that the products were never going to be delivered until a year+ later and still waiting.

Raise prices to scare people from cancelling and after they deliver only a few jalas to get more pre-orders.

Too bad you can't figure this shit out. Idiot
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June 17, 2013, 05:51:52 AM
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The CEO scammed $30.000.000 with this?
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June 17, 2013, 06:06:12 AM
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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

I wonder why people are to0 lazy to read the posts explaining why they're scammers.

BFL said every month since OCT 2012 that they were on the verge of delivering only to get pre-orders in. The ones that ask for a refund get their money back. Sounds innocent enough right?

Well that funds RnD and that is tax free loans at 0% interest.

Perpetual pre-order/refund setup while knowing that the products were never going to be delivered until a year+ later and still waiting.

Raise prices to scare people from cancelling and after they deliver only a few jalas to get more pre-orders.

Too bad you can't figure this shit out. Idiot

Just because you repeat the same lies over and over MooC Tals doesn't mean people are going to start believing your lies.  But by all means, continue to spam every thread with your fantasies.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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June 17, 2013, 06:08:21 AM
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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

I wonder why people are to0 lazy to read the posts explaining why they're scammers.

BFL said every month since OCT 2012 that they were on the verge of delivering only to get pre-orders in. The ones that ask for a refund get their money back. Sounds innocent enough right?

Well that funds RnD and that is tax free loans at 0% interest.

Perpetual pre-order/refund setup while knowing that the products were never going to be delivered until a year+ later and still waiting.

Raise prices to scare people from cancelling and after they deliver only a few jalas to get more pre-orders.

Too bad you can't figure this shit out. Idiot

Just because you repeat the same lies over and over MooC Tals doesn't mean people are going to start believing your lies.  But by all means, continue to spam every thread with your fantasies.


Why not? It seems to work for you.
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June 17, 2013, 06:08:49 AM
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So are you really selling chips before you satisfy all of the customer orders you currently have or is that untrue as well?

Why delay the sale of chips when it has no effect on slowing down the delivery of other products? I've seen this complaint come up multiple times around the form and it's silly.

Is this a troll or do you honestly not know?  Flooding the market with chips while not delivering preorders will drastically increase the difficulty level, especially if sold to people who can actually use them to make miners in the near term.  This makes those preordered products increasingly worthless, to the point people other than the earliest who get them will be lucky to break even.
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June 17, 2013, 06:09:19 AM
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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

I wonder why people are to0 lazy to read the posts explaining why they're scammers.

BFL said every month since OCT 2012 that they were on the verge of delivering only to get pre-orders in. The ones that ask for a refund get their money back. Sounds innocent enough right?

Well that funds RnD and that is tax free loans at 0% interest.

Perpetual pre-order/refund setup while knowing that the products were never going to be delivered until a year+ later and still waiting.

Raise prices to scare people from cancelling and after they deliver only a few jalas to get more pre-orders.

Too bad you can't figure this shit out. Idiot

Just because you repeat the same lies over and over MooC Tals doesn't mean people are going to start believing your lies.  But by all means, continue to spam every thread with your fantasies.


Why not? It seems to work for you.

Once again, I've provided proof that you're a liar, you've yet to provide any that I've lied.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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June 17, 2013, 06:16:17 AM
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Got my Jally yesterday. Mining at 7 to 8 Gh/s in bfgminer. ROCKING.
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June 17, 2013, 06:37:11 AM
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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

I wonder why people are to0 lazy to read the posts explaining why they're scammers.

BFL said every month since OCT 2012 that they were on the verge of delivering only to get pre-orders in. The ones that ask for a refund get their money back. Sounds innocent enough right?

Well that funds RnD and that is tax free loans at 0% interest.

Perpetual pre-order/refund setup while knowing that the products were never going to be delivered until a year+ later and still waiting.

Raise prices to scare people from cancelling and after they deliver only a few jalas to get more pre-orders.

Too bad you can't figure this shit out. Idiot

Just because you repeat the same lies over and over MooC Tals doesn't mean people are going to start believing your lies.  But by all means, continue to spam every thread with your fantasies.


Why not? It seems to work for you.

Once again, I've provided proof that you're a liar, you've yet to provide any that I've lied.


Are we going to play this again? Mr Mistake(™)

Do you even have a soul? Are you even bothered on the fact that you have completely fucked so many people around the world.

You can come on this forum with a straight face and call someone a liar? How do you sleep at night telling people that your going to ship products with a 1/3 rule.

After telling people here on the forum you don't want to give anyone an advantage and you would prefer to ship all products at the same time.

Now you only ship jalas.

I really can not fathom to understand how you hold your head up. No shame

You have no shame

Where did I lie?
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June 17, 2013, 07:56:11 AM
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What is now the truth ?
Are they scammers or not ?
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June 17, 2013, 08:08:52 AM
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I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

I wonder why people are to0 lazy to read the posts explaining why they're scammers.

BFL said every month since OCT 2012 that they were on the verge of delivering only to get pre-orders in. The ones that ask for a refund get their money back. Sounds innocent enough right?

Well that funds RnD and that is tax free loans at 0% interest.

Perpetual pre-order/refund setup while knowing that the products were never going to be delivered until a year+ later and still waiting.

Raise prices to scare people from cancelling and after they deliver only a few jalas to get more pre-orders.

Too bad you can't figure this shit out. Idiot

Just because you repeat the same lies over and over MooC Tals doesn't mean people are going to start believing your lies.  But by all means, continue to spam every thread with your fantasies.


Why not? It seems to work for you.

Once again, I've provided proof that you're a liar, you've yet to provide any that I've lied.


Are we going to play this again? Mr Mistake(™)

Do you even have a soul? Are you even bothered on the fact that you have completely fucked so many people around the world.

You can come on this forum with a straight face and call someone a liar? How do you sleep at night telling people that your going to ship products with a 1/3 rule.

After telling people here on the forum you don't want to give anyone an advantage and you would prefer to ship all products at the same time.

Now you only ship jalas.

I really can not fathom to understand how you hold your head up. No shame

You have no shame

Where did I lie?

All you seem to do is state from opinion - not fact.  I see people all everywhere from multiple sources showing pictures of new units and giving communication updates regarding shipping of ALL types.  Follow grnbrg and the BFL forums (I'm sure you do to fuel the disgust you have for the company which is what compells you to troll on about them.) 

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