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September 18, 2015, 09:02:14 PM
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Finally a legit eth fork here.

It is but with the 10M reserve it already has a marketcap of 3.5 Mio$, which is quite alot...



I know... I think coin price might start to drop. This DAO should start hiring people at these high coin prices.




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If the price goes down, or way up, that would be taken into consideration later for paying bounties to 3rd party devs. In most all cases people will sell bounties for BTC and then perhaps Fiat, so it is critical to only use it on valuable additions. It isn't like 3rd party devs would get paid less if the price changes, it would be adjusted.



I think there will be a shit storm of ethereum/DAOs created that will do this exact same thing. I would like to see this coin move as fast as possible. Being slow and stingy with the funds will just lead to everyone creating their own DAO instead of working together.

Any smart person like myself will not buy this coin right now. The smart move is to wait until someone wants to dump their claimed bounty.



I'm already getting annoyed that you guys are not listing ideas with suggested bounty sizes for them. This doesn't feel like a DAO. It feels like your the boss and you will do whatever you want.




If we simply listed ideas with suggested bounties that would be missing the point entirely and acting exactly like a boss, although we have discussed countless ideas and plans in Slack already.

The DAO has to be formed before it can vote, and the first votes will be getting the Advisory Board elected. This isn't a short term or a non serious project, and anything funded has to be carefully considered and approved later by the community as a whole, not just the founders. If you want us to rush and just appoint people to the board, or just pass out bounties like mad, that just isn't going to happen. Certainly lots of people will copy these ideas, but if it isn't done right it won't matter for them and they won't last.

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September 18, 2015, 09:18:58 PM
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Holy shit, this is gaining traction FAST!

Feels like "good old days"



it does sorta feel like the old days doesnt it Smiley

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Finally a legit eth fork here.

It is but with the 10M reserve it already has a marketcap of 3.5 Mio$, which is quite alot...



I know... I think coin price might start to drop. This DAO should start hiring people at these high coin prices.




agree

If the price goes down, or way up, that would be taken into consideration later for paying bounties to 3rd party devs. In most all cases people will sell bounties for BTC and then perhaps Fiat, so it is critical to only use it on valuable additions. It isn't like 3rd party devs would get paid less if the price changes, it would be adjusted.



I think there will be a shit storm of ethereum/DAOs created that will do this exact same thing. I would like to see this coin move as fast as possible. Being slow and stingy with the funds will just lead to everyone creating their own DAO instead of working together.

Any smart person like myself will not buy this coin right now. The smart move is to wait until someone wants to dump their claimed bounty.



I'm already getting annoyed that you guys are not listing ideas with suggested bounty sizes for them. This doesn't feel like a DAO. It feels like your the boss and you will do whatever you want.




If we simply listed ideas with suggested bounties that would be missing the point entirely and acting exactly like a boss, although we have discussed countless ideas and plans in Slack already.

The DAO has to be formed before it can vote, and the first votes will be getting the Advisory Board elected. This isn't a short term or a non serious project, and anything funded has to be carefully considered and approved later by the community as a whole, not just the founders. If you want us to rush and just appoint people to the board, or just pass out bounties like mad, that just isn't going to happen. Certainly lots of people will copy these ideas, but if it isn't done right it won't matter for them and they won't last.



Alright boss, I guess I will stop paying attention to this project.

I will just sit on the 2000 EXP that I somehow mined in 8 hours at the start of the project when the difficulty adjustment was messed up and blocks were being solved every 2 seconds. Hopefully it's worth something in 5 years.



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September 18, 2015, 09:27:52 PM
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Alright boss, I guess I will stop paying attention to this project.

I will just sit on the 2000 EXP that I somehow mined in 8 hours at the start of the project when the difficulty adjustment was messed up and blocks were being solved every 2 seconds. Hopefully it's worth something in 5 years.




I dont think he is saying you cant use your funds independently to fund the things you want to fund Smiley

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September 18, 2015, 11:30:45 PM
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Finally a legit eth fork here.

It is but with the 10M reserve it already has a marketcap of 3.5 Mio$, which is quite alot...



I know... I think coin price might start to drop. This DAO should start hiring people at these high coin prices.




agree

If the price goes down, or way up, that would be taken into consideration later for paying bounties to 3rd party devs. In most all cases people will sell bounties for BTC and then perhaps Fiat, so it is critical to only use it on valuable additions. It isn't like 3rd party devs would get paid less if the price changes, it would be adjusted.



I think there will be a shit storm of ethereum/DAOs created that will do this exact same thing. I would like to see this coin move as fast as possible. Being slow and stingy with the funds will just lead to everyone creating their own DAO instead of working together.

Any smart person like myself will not buy this coin right now. The smart move is to wait until someone wants to dump their claimed bounty.



I'm already getting annoyed that you guys are not listing ideas with suggested bounty sizes for them. This doesn't feel like a DAO. It feels like your the boss and you will do whatever you want.




If we simply listed ideas with suggested bounties that would be missing the point entirely and acting exactly like a boss, although we have discussed countless ideas and plans in Slack already.

The DAO has to be formed before it can vote, and the first votes will be getting the Advisory Board elected. This isn't a short term or a non serious project, and anything funded has to be carefully considered and approved later by the community as a whole, not just the founders. If you want us to rush and just appoint people to the board, or just pass out bounties like mad, that just isn't going to happen. Certainly lots of people will copy these ideas, but if it isn't done right it won't matter for them and they won't last.

exactly you guys have stated from the start that there was going to be voting etc and that this was going to be a well thought out project not just one person deciding who gets what bounties for what additions. I think this project has a bright future indeed.

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September 19, 2015, 01:36:10 AM
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Why at https://exp.maxminers.net the amount of expanse is only 5 per block
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September 19, 2015, 02:24:33 AM
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Alright boss, I guess I will stop paying attention to this project.

I will just sit on the 2000 EXP that I somehow mined in 8 hours at the start of the project when the difficulty adjustment was messed up and blocks were being solved every 2 seconds. Hopefully it's worth something in 5 years.




I dont think he is saying you cant use your funds independently to fund the things you want to fund Smiley

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September 19, 2015, 02:49:38 AM
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Is average block time presented at http://stats.expanse.tech/ an average of the last XXX blocks? Or is it an average of all blocks found including the ones at low difficulty when Expanse launched?
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September 19, 2015, 03:23:18 AM
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hello,

mind to share how to login to our previous exp wallet? i've moved to the latest exp package for win 64 but i don't know how to log in instead of creating a new account Sad

appreciate for any helps.

regards.
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September 19, 2015, 03:36:17 AM
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Is average block time presented at http://stats.expanse.tech/ an average of the last XXX blocks? Or is it an average of all blocks found including the ones at low difficulty when Expanse launched?

I believe that is the average of everything, although the average for today was actually pretty close to 60 seconds. It seems to move around a bit, but keeps getting closer to 60 seconds as it moves on.

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September 19, 2015, 03:44:47 AM
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Is there a roadmap for this coin?
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September 19, 2015, 03:58:28 AM
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Is average block time presented at http://stats.expanse.tech/ an average of the last XXX blocks? Or is it an average of all blocks found including the ones at low difficulty when Expanse launched?

Yup It is including the launch before difficulty stabilized. Some of it is from blocks coming in quicker after the launch too, from the ever-increasing hash rate as more and more people got interested and starting mining.
Let me explain: You can think of this as a kind of growing pain -- getting too big for your clothes too fast.  

When hashrate increases by ALOT very fast, ESPECIALLY like it did at launch, but also after the launch there were a few times where alot of new miners got on board over a few hour period. All of that isn't suddenly pointed at EXP in the blink of an eye over one block; It is a gradual increased over a few hours. The difficulty increases as more hash gets added, but because more people are joining in following that, there ends up being slightly more hashrate then the difficulty was calculated for.  The result is a slight increase in blocks solved compared to the expected until the hashrate is no longer increasing (like now, it is pretty stable).

When Hashrate pulls away from the coin, the inverse will happen -- difficulty will be up higher with less hash rate to solve it, result in slightly less blocks per hour. This is normal behavior and over a moderate time window averages evenly to the desired rate per hour.

Let me know if you need any further clarification or have any other questions. ;]

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September 19, 2015, 04:01:20 AM
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Is there a roadmap for this coin?

We have a lot of documents and media coming out, and we have a lot of features, tools, apps, and organizational logic in development, but since it is a community coin, alot of what would be considered the majors steps to a road map is up to the community to decide. Of course, for the community to make that decision, they need an operating DAO contract framework and operating DAO on top of it. We will be releasing some documents and media soon that cover the immediate plans and timeline for development and the organization until it is in the DAO's hands, but of course getting the essentials such as our wallets, dapps, and other primary software for the project out asap is our immediate priority.

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September 19, 2015, 04:06:44 AM
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hello,

mind to share how to login to our previous exp wallet? i've moved to the latest exp package for win 64 but i don't know how to log in instead of creating a new account Sad

appreciate for any helps.

regards.

You should not have to; When you install a new version/update you are just replacing the application. It is installed/kept separately from your keys, blockchain info, node info, DAG, etc and should not be effected by updating versions. You should just be able to open the new version and resume use just like it was the previous version. It should have your accounts already loaded.

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hello,

mind to share how to login to our previous exp wallet? i've moved to the latest exp package for win 64 but i don't know how to log in instead of creating a new account Sad

appreciate for any helps.

regards.

You should not have to; When you install a new version/update you are just replacing the application. It is installed/kept separately from your keys, blockchain info, node info, DAG, etc and should not be effected by updating versions. You should just be able to open the new version and resume use just like it was the previous version. It should have your accounts already loaded.

thank you,
i will try it again.
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September 19, 2015, 05:03:48 AM
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hello,

mind to share how to login to our previous exp wallet? i've moved to the latest exp package for win 64 but i don't know how to log in instead of creating a new account Sad

appreciate for any helps.

regards.

You should not have to; When you install a new version/update you are just replacing the application. It is installed/kept separately from your keys, blockchain info, node info, DAG, etc and should not be effected by updating versions. You should just be able to open the new version and resume use just like it was the previous version. It should have your accounts already loaded.

thank you,
i will try it again.

Let me know if you still have problems and I will walk you through how to check to see if your key files are still there / intact. They should be as long as you didn't delete the data directory for Expanse. (The Installation directory and it's contents don't matter, unless you manually set the datadir to it, or installed it to the datadir.)

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Let me know if you still have problems and I will walk you through how to check to see if your key files are still there / intact. They should be as long as you didn't delete the data directory for Expanse. (The Installation directory and it's contents don't matter, unless you manually set the datadir to it, or installed it to the datadir.)

Hi altcoinex,

Please find below images, first image was using the first exp package, mining on a laptop and i think i have a tiny amount on it.
But at the second image, it shows the amount is zero after exp started.

#01
http://i.imgur.com/BbgabZK.png

#02
http://i.imgur.com/ijIYi2N.png

Thank you so much for your help.

Regards.
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September 19, 2015, 05:41:38 AM
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It seems I have no idea how is emission model set up.

Where can I see some details? Charts or some hard data?
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Let me know if you still have problems and I will walk you through how to check to see if your key files are still there / intact. They should be as long as you didn't delete the data directory for Expanse. (The Installation directory and it's contents don't matter, unless you manually set the datadir to it, or installed it to the datadir.)

Hi altcoinex,

Please find below images, first image was using the first exp package, mining on a laptop and i think i have a tiny amount on it.
But at the second image, it shows the amount is zero after exp started.

#01
http://i.imgur.com/BbgabZK.png

#02
http://i.imgur.com/ijIYi2N.png
Thank you so much for your help.

Regards.

Please run the command 'exp.accounts' and tell me are there more than one account listed there?
If more than one, check the balance of each one listed.
If there is just one, the current coinbase, that is returning nothing, please try the following:

Navigate to the directory: %appdata%\Expanse\keystore
Is there more than one file there?

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September 19, 2015, 07:43:45 AM
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The Slack invite link needs to be updated. - http://slack.expanse.tech/

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