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Author Topic: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard)  (Read 961402 times)
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September 19, 2015, 01:36:10 AM
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Why at https://exp.maxminers.net the amount of expanse is only 5 per block
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September 19, 2015, 02:24:33 AM
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Alright boss, I guess I will stop paying attention to this project.

I will just sit on the 2000 EXP that I somehow mined in 8 hours at the start of the project when the difficulty adjustment was messed up and blocks were being solved every 2 seconds. Hopefully it's worth something in 5 years.




I dont think he is saying you cant use your funds independently to fund the things you want to fund Smiley

Im in Mr. Franko.  We are mining and own a few.  Good Luck everyone.

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September 19, 2015, 02:49:38 AM
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Is average block time presented at http://stats.expanse.tech/ an average of the last XXX blocks? Or is it an average of all blocks found including the ones at low difficulty when Expanse launched?
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September 19, 2015, 03:36:17 AM
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Is average block time presented at http://stats.expanse.tech/ an average of the last XXX blocks? Or is it an average of all blocks found including the ones at low difficulty when Expanse launched?

I believe that is the average of everything, although the average for today was actually pretty close to 60 seconds. It seems to move around a bit, but keeps getting closer to 60 seconds as it moves on.

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Is there a roadmap for this coin?
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Last edit: September 19, 2015, 06:45:05 AM by altcoinex
 #1506

Is average block time presented at http://stats.expanse.tech/ an average of the last XXX blocks? Or is it an average of all blocks found including the ones at low difficulty when Expanse launched?

Yup It is including the launch before difficulty stabilized. Some of it is from blocks coming in quicker after the launch too, from the ever-increasing hash rate as more and more people got interested and starting mining.
Let me explain: You can think of this as a kind of growing pain -- getting too big for your clothes too fast.  

When hashrate increases by ALOT very fast, ESPECIALLY like it did at launch, but also after the launch there were a few times where alot of new miners got on board over a few hour period. All of that isn't suddenly pointed at EXP in the blink of an eye over one block; It is a gradual increased over a few hours. The difficulty increases as more hash gets added, but because more people are joining in following that, there ends up being slightly more hashrate then the difficulty was calculated for.  The result is a slight increase in blocks solved compared to the expected until the hashrate is no longer increasing (like now, it is pretty stable).

When Hashrate pulls away from the coin, the inverse will happen -- difficulty will be up higher with less hash rate to solve it, result in slightly less blocks per hour. This is normal behavior and over a moderate time window averages evenly to the desired rate per hour.

Let me know if you need any further clarification or have any other questions. ;]


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September 19, 2015, 04:01:20 AM
 #1507

Is there a roadmap for this coin?

We have a lot of documents and media coming out, and we have a lot of features, tools, apps, and organizational logic in development, but since it is a community coin, alot of what would be considered the majors steps to a road map is up to the community to decide. Of course, for the community to make that decision, they need an operating DAO contract framework and operating DAO on top of it. We will be releasing some documents and media soon that cover the immediate plans and timeline for development and the organization until it is in the DAO's hands, but of course getting the essentials such as our wallets, dapps, and other primary software for the project out asap is our immediate priority.


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September 19, 2015, 04:06:44 AM
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hello,

mind to share how to login to our previous exp wallet? i've moved to the latest exp package for win 64 but i don't know how to log in instead of creating a new account Sad

appreciate for any helps.

regards.

You should not have to; When you install a new version/update you are just replacing the application. It is installed/kept separately from your keys, blockchain info, node info, DAG, etc and should not be effected by updating versions. You should just be able to open the new version and resume use just like it was the previous version. It should have your accounts already loaded.


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September 19, 2015, 05:03:48 AM
 #1509

hello,

mind to share how to login to our previous exp wallet? i've moved to the latest exp package for win 64 but i don't know how to log in instead of creating a new account Sad

appreciate for any helps.

regards.

You should not have to; When you install a new version/update you are just replacing the application. It is installed/kept separately from your keys, blockchain info, node info, DAG, etc and should not be effected by updating versions. You should just be able to open the new version and resume use just like it was the previous version. It should have your accounts already loaded.

thank you,
i will try it again.

Let me know if you still have problems and I will walk you through how to check to see if your key files are still there / intact. They should be as long as you didn't delete the data directory for Expanse. (The Installation directory and it's contents don't matter, unless you manually set the datadir to it, or installed it to the datadir.)


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September 19, 2015, 05:41:38 AM
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It seems I have no idea how is emission model set up.

Where can I see some details? Charts or some hard data?
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Let me know if you still have problems and I will walk you through how to check to see if your key files are still there / intact. They should be as long as you didn't delete the data directory for Expanse. (The Installation directory and it's contents don't matter, unless you manually set the datadir to it, or installed it to the datadir.)

Hi altcoinex,

Please find below images, first image was using the first exp package, mining on a laptop and i think i have a tiny amount on it.
But at the second image, it shows the amount is zero after exp started.

#01
https://i.imgur.com/BbgabZK.png

#02
https://i.imgur.com/ijIYi2N.png
Thank you so much for your help.

Regards.

Please run the command 'exp.accounts' and tell me are there more than one account listed there?
If more than one, check the balance of each one listed.
If there is just one, the current coinbase, that is returning nothing, please try the following:

Navigate to the directory: %appdata%\Expanse\keystore
Is there more than one file there?


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September 19, 2015, 07:43:45 AM
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The Slack invite link needs to be updated. - http://slack.expanse.tech/

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I have begun my proposition for the DAO Structure. If you want to see, join the slack and navigate to http://slack.expanse.tech/  #advisory-board

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Console Cheat Sheet
Code:
BlockHeight == exp.blockNumber
nodeinfo == admin.noteInfo
peers == admin.peers
addnode == admin.addPeer("enode://nodekey:ipaddress@port")
send tx == exp.sendTransaction({from:exp.accounts[0], to:"0x…007", value: web3.toWei(1, "expanse")})
getBalance == web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase), "expanse")
Peercount == net.peerCount

Please add "exp.accounts" to the cheat sheet.

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September 19, 2015, 10:23:23 AM
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It seems I have no idea how is emission model set up.

Where can I see some details? Charts or some hard data?

I am working on my proposal for the Inflation Model which includes total coin supply etc. Navigate to http://slack.expanse.tech/  #advisory-board

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Console Cheat Sheet
Code:
BlockHeight == exp.blockNumber
nodeinfo == admin.noteInfo
peers == admin.peers
addnode == admin.addPeer("enode://nodekey:ipaddress@port")
send tx == exp.sendTransaction({from:exp.accounts[0], to:"0x…007", value: web3.toWei(1, "expanse")})
getBalance == web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase), "expanse")
Peercount == net.peerCount

Please add "exp.accounts" to the cheat sheet.

There an error in the cheat sheet: "nodeinfo == admin.noteInfo"

It's suppose to be: "nodeinfo == admin.nodeInfo"

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In block explorer, where I can see nethash?

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September 19, 2015, 12:33:44 PM
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In block explorer, where I can see nethash?

The block explorer is incomplete currently. It will be fully functional within the week I should expect.

Right now the easiest way is to do the math manually. diff / blocktime. I've been told.

Sorry.

https://github.com/cubedro/eth-netstats/blob/master/lib/history.js#L534-L555

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September 19, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
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Difficulty to high for the low price...
Giving less than ethereum..
Price should go higher Kiss
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