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February 14, 2023, 07:04:06 AM
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Mavs 121 - Twolves 124.
Luka said he should've given Kyrie the crucial shot in their game against the Kings but now I think he should've taken it. There's some shyness in the air for both Kyrie and Luka, it may take some time to fit in.
LOL, that's hilarious, whoever shoots the ball should have the confidence to do it, whether he'll miss it or not, it's just the play that has to be followed. These superstars have not won a game together, not sure who or what is the problem, but you are right, they need some time to fit in.

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February 14, 2023, 07:14:37 AM
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Dallas Mavericks lost again.
This ain't looking pretty, that's two games with Luka and Kyrie playing side by side. Some may say Minnesota Timberwolves got stronger because they now have Conley which had good chemistry with Gobert but this is a Mavs team with two superstars so it's kind of odd to use that kind of reason.
Defense. That's the problem of the Mavericks right now.

Yes you got 2 all-star players that are very good in offense and it's pretty obvious that they are both stepping up offensively. On the other hand, they are very awful defensively and no other team is good in defense as well. Yes your team scored 121 points which is high, but how can you allow your opponent score 124 points? Even before the trade, they are already at the bottom when it comes to defense. Now that they lost their best defender which is Dorian Finney-Smith, I expect them to go even lower when it comes to defense. Like I said, I'd rather focus more on defense than offense. Just look at how the Celtics played last season.

Maybe I just expected too much from the Mavs and I thought it could work out early, they may need more time to fit but they need to make haste because their rank will keep on moving down for every loss they will take.
Give them some time. The chemistry will be build anytime soon.

On the other hand, expecting too much will just hurt you Wink. Look at the Nets right now and it was 3 years ago. Many expected the KD-Irving will be a perfect duo, and adding Harden to the team made them almost impossible to stop. Many has high expectations to the team, but what happened to them? Only won 1 playoff series, got swept against the Celtics and now they are now with different teams already. Don't expect too much always because the teams that you don't expect to win a title might be the ones who will win it all.

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February 14, 2023, 07:40:31 AM
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Mavs 121 - Twolves 124.
Luka said he should've given Kyrie the crucial shot in their game against the Kings but now I think he should've taken it. There's some shyness in the air for both Kyrie and Luka, it may take some time to fit in.
LOL, that's hilarious, whoever shoots the ball should have the confidence to do it, whether he'll miss it or not, it's just the play that has to be followed. These superstars have not won a game together, not sure who or what is the problem, but you are right, they need some time to fit in.

Whoever will take the last shot should have that confidence as it is their role to take it and try winning the game, pretty sure
both key stars are respecting each other they just need some time to fit with the way they play the game.

Both offensive and if they will be able to utilize both skills and combine their offensive attacks the chance is high for them to win a game.

They've got to create good system where they can use their offense as also their defense.
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February 14, 2023, 07:56:58 AM
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Mavs 121 - Twolves 124.
Luka said he should've given Kyrie the crucial shot in their game against the Kings but now I think he should've taken it. There's some shyness in the air for both Kyrie and Luka, it may take some time to fit in.

Both are still adjusting to playing together and good thing is, Kyrie already managed to win 3 games to cover these losses and hope this is the last losing streak for them since the fans have been hyping about this trade and they really hope that Luka has finally found the right guy to help him win a championship. As for the other teams, they were doing well with their newly acquired rosters, and with that, I think these two just need some time to fit with each other in Dallas, and in a few more games I'm sure they will find their roles.

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February 14, 2023, 08:16:46 AM
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Mavs 121 - Twolves 124.
Luka said he should've given Kyrie the crucial shot in their game against the Kings but now I think he should've taken it. There's some shyness in the air for both Kyrie and Luka, it may take some time to fit in.
LOL, that's hilarious, whoever shoots the ball should have the confidence to do it, whether he'll miss it or not, it's just the play that has to be followed. These superstars have not won a game together, not sure who or what is the problem, but you are right, they need some time to fit in.

Whoever will take the last shot should have that confidence as it is their role to take it and try winning the game, pretty sure
both key stars are respecting each other they just need some time to fit with the way they play the game.

Both offensive and if they will be able to utilize both skills and combine their offensive attacks the chance is high for them to win a game.

They've got to create good system where they can use their offense as also their defense.

What a sequence, they just don't have the right communication in the end as it resulted to a turnover, Luka should have take the last shot, instead he pass it to Irving. Anyway, it's still too early, Dallas will surely figure out how to win and they'll keep their good standing.

By the way, one of the reasons why Wolves got better now is because they have Conley already, he is a good ball facilitator, and look at the production of Gobert, he had a double double with the highest +- rating among his teammates.

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February 14, 2023, 11:13:14 AM
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Mavs 121 - Twolves 124.
Luka said he should've given Kyrie the crucial shot in their game against the Kings but now I think he should've taken it. There's some shyness in the air for both Kyrie and Luka, it may take some time to fit in.

Both are still adjusting to playing together and good thing is, Kyrie already managed to win 3 games to cover these losses and hope this is the last losing streak for them since the fans have been hyping about this trade and they really hope that Luka has finally found the right guy to help him win a championship. As for the other teams, they were doing well with their newly acquired rosters, and with that, I think these two just need some time to fit with each other in Dallas, and in a few more games I'm sure they will find their roles.

Both still doing the adjustment and with these 2 consecutive losses, it might need for coach Kidd to call them out and find the better
system that will going to fit for both stars.

Kyrie already played with other stars and with the way he loves the game professionally, I can
say that he can adjust to how to help Luka.

It's a matter of time and playing together to build and established good chemistries between them
while the season is still ongoing.
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February 14, 2023, 11:23:02 AM
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Both still doing the adjustment and with these 2 consecutive losses, it might need for coach Kidd to call them out and find the better
system that will going to fit for both stars.
They should figure out how to win soon, otherwise they will continue to slide down which is not good for their playoffs chance.
Dallas now down to rank 5 with 31-28 record, still good though as it's about .500, but the competition is very high in the west, so every win matters.

Kyrie already played with other stars and with the way he loves the game professionally, I can
say that he can adjust to how to help Luka.

It's a matter of time and playing together to build and established good chemistries between them
while the season is still ongoing.

Kyrie did play with other stars because he has been traded several times, but Luka, it's his first time playing wih a real superstar.

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February 14, 2023, 11:24:07 AM
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Mavs 121 - Twolves 124.
Luka said he should've given Kyrie the crucial shot in their game against the Kings but now I think he should've taken it. There's some shyness in the air for both Kyrie and Luka, it may take some time to fit in.
LOL, that's hilarious, whoever shoots the ball should have the confidence to do it, whether he'll miss it or not, it's just the play that has to be followed. These superstars have not won a game together, not sure who or what is the problem, but you are right, they need some time to fit in.

Whoever will take the last shot should have that confidence as it is their role to take it and try winning the game, pretty sure
both key stars are respecting each other they just need some time to fit with the way they play the game.

Both offensive and if they will be able to utilize both skills and combine their offensive attacks the chance is high for them to win a game.

They've got to create good system where they can use their offense as also their defense.

What a sequence, they just don't have the right communication in the end as it resulted to a turnover, Luka should have take the last shot, instead he pass it to Irving. Anyway, it's still too early, Dallas will surely figure out how to win and they'll keep their good standing.

By the way, one of the reasons why Wolves got better now is because they have Conley already, he is a good ball facilitator, and look at the production of Gobert, he had a double double with the highest +- rating among his teammates.

Yeah, it's just part of the growing pains for this 2 superstars to jive very well in such crucial situation. So it's too early, let them learn this hard lessons for this lost and perhaps in the future they are going to figure it by themselves. The only draw back is that only 3 players on their side score in double him, both of them and Christian Wood. At least a fourth member should have contributed more in the offense and they might not see this position in the last seconds of the game and could win it.

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February 14, 2023, 12:51:54 PM
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By the way, one of the reasons why Wolves got better now is because they have Conley already, he is a good ball facilitator, and look at the production of Gobert, he had a double double with the highest +- rating among his teammates.
Indeed a big change if you pair Rudy Gobert with someone he knew for a long time. The chemistry was still there and Conley knew what Gobert is thinking so it was easy for them to score and have a 2-man play. Timberwolves did a good job on this trade and now they can maximize the height advantage of their big man.

Kyrie did play with other stars because he has been traded several times, but Luka, it's his first time playing wih a real superstar.
The experience of Luka playing with another star might really have something to do about their recent 2 losses. It might be time for Coach Kidd to straighten up the roles of both players. Whatever he did in their past two games, it's not working. He must find some way to reflect the greatness of one star to another. I mean, Klay and Steph did it, and Lebron and Wade too although they had a rough start.
There must be a solution to this and we are just rushing things. I wish they will not use blame games and just find a solution to work it out.

Kyrie Irving doesn't want to talk about his future yet with the Mavs, Mark Cuban might have a good plan for him as long he keeps it silent.  Grin

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February 14, 2023, 01:32:32 PM
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Kyrie already played with other stars and with the way he loves the game professionally, I can
say that he can adjust to how to help Luka.

It's a matter of time and playing together to build and established good chemistries between them
while the season is still ongoing.
Love the game "professionally"? Are you sure?
He isn't acting like he is a professional player IMO.

No offense to what you said though, but I see Kyrie differently. When he was in Cleveland, he destroyed the Big 3 of him, Lebron and Love because he isn't getting the respect that he wants thus, he requested a trade and went to Boston. When he went to Boston, he said that he will resign with the team, but what happened? He got traded and before that, he is already complaining with his team saying that they are young to win a title, and he is also complaining to their coach back then which is Coach Stevens. Now he went to Brooklyn because Durant requested it. When he got KD and Harden on his back, he ruined it again by not playing because of vaccine mandates etc. etc.

My apologies for what I've said, but Kyrie was never and will never a professional player to me. He will continue to destroy whichever teams he will play to. Unless we see some changes with him now that he's with the Mavericks then I'll change what I said.

As with Luka-Kyrie duo, give them some time to play. It isn't like Thanos where chemistry will be there in just a snap. It will take time, but aside from that, I hope that they will get good defensive role players. I hope they'll get Beverley now that he's been waived.

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February 14, 2023, 01:48:00 PM
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How about the Bucks with 10 winning streaks already. They are not getting enough attention just because they didn't move at the trading deadline.
Sure, they got Jae Crowder and they attempted to get Fred VanVleet of the Raptors but they are actually a team that doesn't need a reconstruction.
The consistency of Giannis Antetokounmpo is all they need and they are no doubt to win their games.
But later, they will be up against one of their greatest rivals, the Boston Celtics. Although one of their duo Jaylen Brown will not play, they are not to be underestimated especially White who had been racking up points to help them win. I will absolutely not miss this game.
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February 14, 2023, 04:09:07 PM
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Luka and Kyrie are both playing great. It takes time to figure things out when you make such a major adjustment to the roster. That or maybe they gave up too many pieces to get Kyrie and need to figure things out or get themselves some more role players. The fact they’re both playing well and still losing isn’t the greatest sign, but at least they’re both playing well. It could be worse.

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February 14, 2023, 04:45:06 PM
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Maybe just let Kyrie do most of the dribbling and Luka should work more on moving without the ball. Steph and Klay are pretty good at that which helped them win multiple rings so I don't see any problem with copying that formula for Luka. If none of them listens then maybe just let Kidd suit up as their point guard hehehe.

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February 14, 2023, 05:17:59 PM
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Maybe just let Kyrie do most of the dribbling and Luka should work more on moving without the ball. Steph and Klay are pretty good at that which helped them win multiple rings so I don't see any problem with copying that formula for Luka. If none of them listens then maybe just let Kidd suit up as their point guard hehehe.

I don't see Luka moving away from the ball much...  This is because he's a big guy who isn't the most athletic.  He's never going to be running around like Steph away from the ball.  He'd be dead tired in 2 minutes.  I think it's just a bad pairing between two ball dominant players. 

We do have a couple good games on tonight.  Celtics vs Bucks and Warriors vs Clippers.  Both games televised on TNT which should lead to some good discussions about the trade deadline magic.  With the all star break right around the corner, it won't be long before we get a look at the Durant led Suns.  Smiley

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February 14, 2023, 05:35:48 PM
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How about the Bucks with 10 winning streaks already. They are not getting enough attention just because they didn't move at the trading deadline.
Sure, they got Jae Crowder and they attempted to get Fred VanVleet of the Raptors but they are actually a team that doesn't need a reconstruction.
The consistency of Giannis Antetokounmpo is all they need and they are no doubt to win their games.
But later, they will be up against one of their greatest rivals, the Boston Celtics. Although one of their duo Jaylen Brown will not play, they are not to be underestimated especially White who had been racking up points to help them win. I will absolutely not miss this game.
And if we have noticed, those top teams, the Bucks and the Celtics and even the Nuggets didn't get any move in this trade and that is why the are on the top of the game.

Bucks though is the favorite, a huge one as far as the odds goes, not sure why the line is like that, maybe it's because some of the Celtics players are injured and this is a game away from home for them. But who knows, this could be a trap for bettors, so let's see.

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February 14, 2023, 06:06:55 PM
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Mavs 121 - Twolves 124.
Luka said he should've given Kyrie the crucial shot in their game against the Kings but now I think he should've taken it. There's some shyness in the air for both Kyrie and Luka, it may take some time to fit in.
LOL, that's hilarious, whoever shoots the ball should have the confidence to do it, whether he'll miss it or not, it's just the play that has to be followed. These superstars have not won a game together, not sure who or what is the problem, but you are right, they need some time to fit in.

Yeah, they need some time to fit in, I mean we thought that it's going to be a W for them and if I'm not mistaken, they are the favorite in this game. But the outcome is very different and it's not clear as who's going to take the last shot.

@LogitechMouse - no need to apologized, I also see your point, even with the Boston Celtics, he says that he won't leave, and same with the Nets and KD, they said they will work together. So it's hard to believed what Kyrie says because it's very different from what he is going to do in the future.

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February 14, 2023, 06:56:52 PM
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Kyrie already played with other stars and with the way he loves the game professionally, I can
say that he can adjust to how to help Luka.

It's a matter of time and playing together to build and established good chemistries between them
while the season is still ongoing.
Love the game "professionally"? Are you sure?
He isn't acting like he is a professional player IMO.

No offense to what you said though, but I see Kyrie differently. When he was in Cleveland, he destroyed the Big 3 of him, Lebron and Love because he isn't getting the respect that he wants thus, he requested a trade and went to Boston. When he went to Boston, he said that he will resign with the team, but what happened? He got traded and before that, he is already complaining with his team saying that they are young to win a title, and he is also complaining to their coach back then which is Coach Stevens. Now he went to Brooklyn because Durant requested it. When he got KD and Harden on his back, he ruined it again by not playing because of vaccine mandates etc. etc.

My apologies for what I've said, but Kyrie was never and will never a professional player to me. He will continue to destroy whichever teams he will play to. Unless we see some changes with him now that he's with the Mavericks then I'll change what I said.

As with Luka-Kyrie duo, give them some time to play. It isn't like Thanos where chemistry will be there in just a snap. It will take time, but aside from that, I hope that they will get good defensive role players. I hope they'll get Beverley now that he's been waived.

Totally agree with you about Irving's unprofessionalism. Personally, I think of him as a selfish player because his behavior at the Nets showed that he doesn't really care about the team's interests. As for the Mavs, I wouldn't expect Irving and Doncic to succeed together because Irving is an unpredictable player, which means that there is a possibility that he may not like his new team at any moment.

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February 14, 2023, 08:28:02 PM
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One thing about Suns is that they have way too much offense to their very little defense. CP3 is not the defender he used to be, Booker is not a great defender, and Ayton is a good rebounder but couldn't say he was a rim protector, not a feared one at least, and Durant is great at defense but he will be pretty tired on scoring constantly on offense, so he can't really put all his efforts on defense.

This concludes that they won't really have a great defense, could be good, just good, but not great and they may have some trouble on playoffs. They can play a lot better on regular season because people don't defend that hard, but playoffs could be a trouble.

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February 14, 2023, 08:44:57 PM
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I've also read that thing about CP3 telling that Suns should also acquire Melo. It's written in some articles and sports publishing websites.
(https://www.basketballinsiders.com/news/chris-paul-wants-phoenix-to-offer-a-contract-to-carmelo-anthony/)

I think it's quite reliable enough to consider that Chris Paul indeed asked the Suns management to acquire Carmelo Anthony in the free agency as this news has been spreading throughout almost every sports outlet. I mean, we couldn't blame the man because he is indeed feeling that this might be his last chance to get at least one ring before he starts considering a retirement as he's already approaching his 40s as well.

And I don't view Melo as a liability because the man can still provide good contribution coming from the bench and while it's evident right now that the Suns is lacking role players before they gave a big portion of the roster just to get KD.
Yes, he can contribute to the team by any means that he can. Not just by playing but also by being one of the backbones of the team.
Since they're jam-packed with good players if they ever acquire Melo and are added to the team. They'll for sure going to give him some space and playing time as well.
But then, as you've said he's not going to be a liability but they have to consider on how much contract they're going to offer him.

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February 14, 2023, 08:55:59 PM
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One thing about Suns is that they have way too much offense to their very little defense. CP3 is not the defender he used to be, Booker is not a great defender, and Ayton is a good rebounder but couldn't say he was a rim protector, not a feared one at least, and Durant is great at defense but he will be pretty tired on scoring constantly on offense, so he can't really put all his efforts on defense.

This concludes that they won't really have a great defense, could be good, just good, but not great and they may have some trouble on playoffs. They can play a lot better on regular season because people don't defend that hard, but playoffs could be a trouble.
Not many play defense these days. It's a lot of 3 pointers and rebounding in todays NBA. Everyone is all about being flashy or the go to guy on the team. Like Ja Morant for example. The guy is great to watch as a 1 man show, but if he didn't get the ball 90% of the time, would he still score like he does?

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