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Author Topic: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet  (Read 965822 times)
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September 17, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
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There are currently a few devs working on integrating Trezor into their software.

I thought it would be worth starting up a thread to discuss some of the low level implementation details.
The thread is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=296078.0

If you are a dev working on Trezor support please check it out.
As there are lots of people reading this thread I thought it was worth keeping low level stuff out of here.

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September 17, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
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There are currently a few devs working on integrating Trezor into their software.

I thought it would be worth starting up a thread to discuss some of the low level implementation details.
The thread is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=296078.0

If you are a dev working on Trezor support please check it out.
As there are lots of people reading this thread I thought it was worth keeping low level stuff out of here.
Good idea

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September 17, 2013, 07:23:14 PM
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Thx for implementing multiple coin support including Litecoin and Namecoin directly in standard firmware!

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September 17, 2013, 07:37:50 PM
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I can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Smiley
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September 18, 2013, 02:18:40 PM
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I can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Smiley

I can't wait to get some of my coins on one of these Wink

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September 20, 2013, 03:21:43 AM
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Amazing project  Cheesy

but tell me something if this dies say what happens to the bitcoins ?

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September 20, 2013, 06:19:00 AM
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Thx for implementing multiple coin support including Litecoin and Namecoin directly in standard firmware!

yeah would be great, how would this work, i guess it is not possible to put wallets of different coins on the same trezor?

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September 20, 2013, 06:26:24 AM
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Amazing project  Cheesy

but tell me something if this dies say what happens to the bitcoins ?

I think there's a way to back up the seed.

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September 20, 2013, 06:46:35 AM
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When you first turn it on, you write down the seed. It will never display again.
I plan to write a text file on an m-disc.
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Amazing project  Cheesy

but tell me something if this dies say what happens to the bitcoins ?

I think there's a way to back up the seed.


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September 21, 2013, 08:37:30 AM
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watching
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September 21, 2013, 08:43:07 AM
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watching

and waiting

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September 21, 2013, 09:29:56 AM
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Trezor - do you do bulk discount prices for resellers? You can PM me if you like
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September 21, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
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Trezor - do you do bulk discount prices for resellers? You can PM me if you like

I second this request but doubt it'll happen before the direct sells are dealt with.

I'm not sure it makes sense, either. Probably not at this point.

There's also going to be trust issues.


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September 21, 2013, 03:13:51 PM
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There's also going to be trust issues.

Not necessarily. If users can easily force the device to generate a new seed, and there is some way to cryptographically verify the firmware on the device, the trust issues should disappear.
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September 21, 2013, 03:50:23 PM
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Trust issues are not problem. Handling complaints is. Lots of people want to become resellers, because they see easy money, but when we ask about how they plan to provide support and handle complaints they are suddenly speechless. :-)

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September 21, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
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There's also going to be trust issues.

Not necessarily. If users can easily force the device to generate a new seed, and there is some way to cryptographically verify the firmware on the device, the trust issues should disappear.

Is this the case? EDIT Clarification: can the authenticity of the firmware be verified?

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September 21, 2013, 11:48:42 PM
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Is this the case? EDIT Clarification: can the authenticity of the firmware be verified?

Yes. If you flash unofficial firmware on the device it will print a warning during the boot-up (which you have to confirm).

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September 22, 2013, 07:29:22 AM
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Is this the case? EDIT Clarification: can the authenticity of the firmware be verified?

Yes. If you flash unofficial firmware on the device it will print a warning during the boot-up (which you have to confirm).

How does that work? Is there a second firmware (bootloader)?

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September 22, 2013, 08:06:11 AM
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UEFI BIOS

Is this the case? EDIT Clarification: can the authenticity of the firmware be verified?

Yes. If you flash unofficial firmware on the device it will print a warning during the boot-up (which you have to confirm).

How does that work? Is there a second firmware (bootloader)?


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September 22, 2013, 08:34:14 AM
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How does that work? Is there a second firmware (bootloader)?

Yes.

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