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Author Topic: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet  (Read 966225 times)
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May 16, 2014, 10:29:45 PM
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Any update on when Trezors will be available for ordering (not preordering)?

Once all preorders will be delivered and Trezors will be in stock. Most likely July.

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May 17, 2014, 12:43:16 AM
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will the Trezor be able to work with the CryptoNote protocol? For coins like Monero (MRO)? Or is this too different from the Bitcoinprotocol to be easily implemented?
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May 17, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
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I'm sure this has been discussed already, but I can't find the right thread... can the trezor be used potentially to unlock a password manager? I'm always nervous that my opening a password manager with a typed password will get keylogged and defeat the whole point of it...
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May 18, 2014, 07:51:43 PM
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I'm sure this has been discussed already, but I can't find the right thread... can the trezor be used potentially to unlock a password manager? I'm always nervous that my opening a password manager with a typed password will get keylogged and defeat the whole point of it...
if the password manager can work with bitcoin adress signing I'd say yes. If you're asking if trezor works without changes with any random password manager, I dunno but I'd assume not.
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May 18, 2014, 07:54:36 PM
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If I found someone to sell me a Trezor would there be any security risks in purchasing a used one?
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May 18, 2014, 10:38:18 PM
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If I found someone to sell me a Trezor would there be any security risks in purchasing a used one?
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If you are sure that the device is really trezor then you should be OK. I don't think there are fake devices out yet so you should be fine but this will change over time. If the device is not genuine than anything can happen.
I would flush the software on the device to make sure latest original sw is used.
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May 19, 2014, 10:23:40 AM
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If I found someone to sell me a Trezor would there be any security risks in purchasing a used one?
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The biggest risk would be a genuine device with a malicious firmware.
But TREZOR would let you know with the "unofficial firmware" warning which displays with each launch and requires active user confirmation.

In such case it is best to go to mytrezor.com, upload our official firmware and you're safe.


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May 19, 2014, 11:10:25 AM
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If I found someone to sell me a Trezor would there be any security risks in purchasing a used one?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #HMwY8CEkzHPiYORv

But TREZOR would let you know with the "unofficial firmware" warning which displays with each launch and requires active user confirmation.



what if the modified firmware also modified this message?
How this is protected?

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May 19, 2014, 11:22:55 AM
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If I found someone to sell me a Trezor would there be any security risks in purchasing a used one?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #HMwY8CEkzHPiYORv

But TREZOR would let you know with the "unofficial firmware" warning which displays with each launch and requires active user confirmation.



what if the modified firmware also modified this message?
How this is protected?
I'd guess a read-only bootloader which checks for signed firmware
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May 19, 2014, 11:26:32 AM
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If I found someone to sell me a Trezor would there be any security risks in purchasing a used one?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #HMwY8CEkzHPiYORv


The biggest risk would be a genuine device with a malicious firmware.
But TREZOR would let you know with the "unofficial firmware" warning which displays with each launch and requires active user confirmation.

In such case it is best to go to mytrezor.com, upload our official firmware and you're safe.



thank you for the information!

but please if you give sensitive information out please confirm before this you're able to speak for the Bitcoin Trezor Team. please let Slush or Stick introduce you or prove in an other way your integrity. no attack to you but let us work clean with sensitive information.  Wink

EDIT: your Trezor logo is not enough, btw.

EDIT2: your post history seems to me ok. sorry Alena, was absent here sometimes!

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May 19, 2014, 01:33:58 PM
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"cor" is Alena, director of SatoshiLabs :-)

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May 19, 2014, 02:00:46 PM
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If I found someone to sell me a Trezor would there be any security risks in purchasing a used one?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #HMwY8CEkzHPiYORv

But TREZOR would let you know with the "unofficial firmware" warning which displays with each launch and requires active user confirmation.



what if the modified firmware also modified this message?
How this is protected?
I'd guess a read-only bootloader which checks for signed firmware

I also guess that this is solved in such a way. But a confirmation would be better Smiley guess is, for a security device, a useless information.




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May 19, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
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Now I have to find someone that would like to sell me one Tongue
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May 19, 2014, 02:27:54 PM
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what if the modified firmware also modified this message?
How this is protected?

This message is shown by bootloader which cannot be changed.

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May 21, 2014, 05:38:17 AM
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Now I have to find someone that would like to sell me one Tongue
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I will sell you my preorder classic Trezor for twice what I paid, but by the time it arrives orders would be open again and I would most likely buy another for less $'s.

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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May 21, 2014, 07:09:01 AM
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This hardware wallet looks neat. How much was it during preorder?

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May 21, 2014, 12:55:50 PM
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Got mine. It's awesome.



It feels like it could survive a hammer attack. Thanks guys for going such great work!

More pictures here.

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May 21, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
Last edit: May 21, 2014, 07:01:44 PM by cptkwirk
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I have had my device a week or two and started using it 2 days ago. MAJOR ISSUE the wallet turned up an error and requests a reload which on press of the button does nothing. I have registered on here so that I may request help from any tech minded guys out there because I have lost BTC! At first I noticed the balances were off and it then came up with a warning to reload. I did and it didnt fix anything. I went to my other account on there and sent 1.23BTC and signed with device etc however the transaction doesnt exist and my funds are gone. Now my first account is now missing a large amount of transaction logs and one
I sent of 10BTC now shows7BTC fortunately that transaction went through fine and I have received the 10 sent but strangely it shows I have sent 7. I have screenshotted what I can and I have done what I can like trying a diff browser, reinstalling plug in and a diff comp no fix. Funds still lost  and I cant wipe device as it has my proof of all transactions and proof of my BTC losses due to the device. If you need the screen shots I have lots and any others if needed but for now the most important one in question which has caused me to loose BTC is this one

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Any help would be greatly appreciated

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May 21, 2014, 06:58:34 PM
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Any help would be greatly appreciated

As long as you wrote down the seed (12 or 18 words), your funds should be accessible even without the trezor because you can always reconstruct the keys from that seed using software on your pc.

As for your specific problem this probably needs to be looked into by someone with more knowledge than me.

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May 21, 2014, 07:01:10 PM
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Fantastic news I hope as I have the seeds would something like multibit work?

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