[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[thatbluedude]

thanks for the update.
can you allready tell us the price for the normal production units? can I add an additional normal trezor to my preorder one?

[dnaleor]

thanks for the update.
can you allready tell us the price for the normal production units? can I add an additional normal trezor to my preorder one?

good question, if this is possible, I would order a couple extra.

[astrolabe]

Congratulations, and thanks for all your hard work.  This is excellent news for bitcoin.

[lemonte]

If anyone has one they would like to sell, please PM me.

[jantenner81]

indeed good news

[bitpop]

If anyone has one they would like to sell, please PM me.

You can have mine for 1 btc

[molecular]

Two new announcements for you:

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/news/2014-01-20-trezor-first-edition-delivery

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/news/2014-01-20-trezor-web-wallet-coming-soon

what's the implementation status of trezor support in other wallets? I'm guessing multibit is still going to be implementing support?

Don't get me wrong: it's great you guys have been making a web-based wallet, but in the long run, this is not the perfect solution due to privacy concerns, right?

[bitpop]

Two new announcements for you:

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/news/2014-01-20-trezor-first-edition-delivery

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/news/2014-01-20-trezor-web-wallet-coming-soon

what's the implementation status of trezor support in other wallets? I'm guessing multibit is still going to be implementing support?

Don't get me wrong: it's great you guys have been making a web-based wallet, but in the long run, this is not the perfect solution due to privacy concerns, right?

Privacy? Not really, it runs in the browser
Security? Yes

[stick]

what's the implementation status of trezor support in other wallets? I'm guessing multibit is still going to be implementing support?

Yes, they are working on it.

Don't get me wrong: it's great you guys have been making a web-based wallet, but in the long run, this is not the perfect solution due to privacy concerns, right?

Right. myTREZOR wallet is statically served HTML+JS, but it connects to transaction server, so basically the same privacy concerns as when using electrum-client + electrum-server.

[Carlton Banks]

The pin is typed that way:

Client displays:
OOO
OOO
OOO

trezor display (changes every time):
954
128
367

So no chance for keyloggers.

Will seed recovery work the same way? I noticed you have good resolution on the OLED, probably enough for 26 characters on 3 rows. Seems like it would be better than using hardware keyboard, as the seed is more sensitive than the PIN

[bitpop]

The seed will only display on device. And I'm going to assume you can't load it on a new one. You'll use software to quickly sweep it to a new device.

[Rassah]

Is anyone going to be showing it off at the Miami conference this weekend?

[Kosta#]

original owner can reload the seed to another device and send his coins out of compromised seed.

I apologize in advance for probable stupidity of my question, but if owner can reload the seed to another device, it means the seed (or it's copy) must be stored outside of the device. And since the seed can be used [with another device] to send coins out, how is it different from having private key itself stored outside of the device?

[bitpop]

original owner can reload the seed to another device and send his coins out of compromised seed.

I apologize in advance for probable stupidity of my question, but if owner can reload the seed to another device, it means the seed (or it's copy) must be stored outside of the device. And since the seed can be used [with another device] to send coins out, how is it different from having private key itself stored outside of the device?

I don't think the device can take a new seed. You must sweep it using software.

Second, its like a paper wallet.

[Carlton Banks]

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/faq/

Is it possible to reset /wipe the device?

Yes, it is. This is especially useful if you want to pass your TREZOR device on to someone else. You can do so by wiping the device in the TREZOR Settings. By doing so, all sensitive user data will be erased. After that you can continue with a new Setup of the device (a completely new security key is generated and the old one is definitively lost) or you can restore it to previous setting with your paper backup.

[kkurtmann]

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/faq/

Is it possible to reset /wipe the device?

Yes, it is. This is especially useful if you want to pass your TREZOR device on to someone else. You can do so by wiping the device in the TREZOR Settings. By doing so, all sensitive user data will be erased. After that you can continue with a new Setup of the device (a completely new security key is generated and the old one is definitively lost) or you can restore it to previous setting with your paper backup.

does this mean we can use multiple wallet/seeds in just the one device? I mean as to keep more than one wallet backed up to seed for cold storage then wipe the device and load it with another for spending?

[dnaleor]

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/faq/

Is it possible to reset /wipe the device?

Yes, it is. This is especially useful if you want to pass your TREZOR device on to someone else. You can do so by wiping the device in the TREZOR Settings. By doing so, all sensitive user data will be erased. After that you can continue with a new Setup of the device (a completely new security key is generated and the old one is definitively lost) or you can restore it to previous setting with your paper backup.

does this mean we can use multiple wallet/seeds in just the one device? I mean as to keep more than one wallet backed up to seed for cold storage then wipe the device and load it with another for spending?

I guess that is possible, yes

but why would you do that? It is a deterministic wallet, so if you are worried about your privacy, you can  just create new adresses if needed

[kkurtmann]

I thought to have cold storage wallets that can be loaded on for everyday spending, and to create said wallet seeds with the Trezor. I wasn't talking about new addresses from the same wallet

[U1TRA_L0RD]

original owner can reload the seed to another device and send his coins out of compromised seed.

I apologize in advance for probable stupidity of my question, but if owner can reload the seed to another device, it means the seed (or it's copy) must be stored outside of the device. And since the seed can be used [with another device] to send coins out, how is it different from having private key itself stored outside of the device?

I don't think the device can take a new seed. You must sweep it using software.

Second, its like a paper wallet.

Except, When it gets wet, Your fucked.

[U1TRA_L0RD]

Can this thing store Scrypt coins?, I bought a new shit-load of DOGE coins and Litecoins and I see that Doge is rising in some exchanges.