[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[FrozenBit]

Just had one question. Think it'd be possible to investigate integrating FrozenBit into it?

It's not clear to me how FrozenBit works technically, but it is pretty straightforward to add Trezor support right now to any web application (like myTrezor or GreenAddress, which is working on integration) or Python-based desktop application (Electrum, Armory).

There's also ongoing progress on integration with Android applications (Wallet32 developer is working on it), but the stack is not ready to immediate use yet.

Let me know if you need any support on another platform or another software stack.

Yeah, I had an idea to maybe allow trezor to generate 1 of the 3 keys. The other 2 would be generated in browser.

 I think it would be a cool application. You could consider it as 1 key held offline, and you now have better control of your keys.

 I'll look into it further, thanks.

[1714706262]

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[slush]

Yeah, I had an idea to maybe allow trezor to generate 1 of the 3 keys. The other 2 would be generated in browser.

Current stable firmware has no multisig capability yet, but we're working on it; multisig will be in next release.

[FrozenBit]

Yeah, I had an idea to maybe allow trezor to generate 1 of the 3 keys. The other 2 would be generated in browser.

Current stable firmware has no multisig capability yet, but we're working on it; multisig will be in next release.

 Can you do me a favor?


 Can you message me : calvin@frozenbit.io when that's released?

 thanks



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[BurtW]

There's also ongoing progress on integration with Android applications (Wallet32 developer is working on it), but the stack is not ready to immediate use yet.

Can you get this message to the wallet32 dev team?  I tried to email them directly at ken@bonsai.com and there was no response:

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I tried out wallet32 and loved it.
Then, you issued an update to the code, and now wallet32 will no longer install on my phone due to an application signature issue.
I even researched this for you and I believe the problem is that you recently switched to the latest JDK7 which has a known application signing issue.

I think all you need to do is go back to the earlier JDK6 and reissue the application to the Google store, then I should be able to download it and use it once again.

The ap signing issue along with some possible solutions is discussed here:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2519374/published-android-apk-gives-error-package-file-was-not-signed-correctly

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Since I can no longer use wallet32 as a backup in case I lose my Trezor I have stopped using my Trezor for all but small amounts of BTC.

Please let them know that it is important they fix this issue.

Thanks!

[slush]

Can you message me : calvin@frozenbit.io when that's released?                                                                                                                                                 

Could you please subscribe to trezor-dev mailing list (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/trezor-dev) instead? This channel was created exactly for this purpose, so I don't need to ping every developer personally.

[slush]

Can you get this message to the wallet32 dev team?

I have no other contact to Ken than this same mailbox. I recommend you to send that email again or create issue on https://github.com/ksedgwic/Wallet32 . Sometimes it is easy to get lost in all those emails...

[BurtW]

Can you get this message to the wallet32 dev team?

I have no other contact to Ken than this same mailbox. I recommend you to send that email again or create issue on https://github.com/ksedgwic/Wallet32 . Sometimes it is easy to get lost in all those emails...

Done.  Thanks.

[molecular]

FYI there's experimental Trezor support in Electrum now: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/trezor-dev/PsGKYo6wjcw

Give it a try and feel free to report issues in trezor-dev mailing list! It is still very raw, but I was able to perform basic operations like receiving and sending coins.

I tried this, but got a bit stuck...

I installed https://github.com/trezor/python-trezor ("python2.7 electrum" was complaining about missing cmdtr module, which I figured out comes from python-trezor). Installing python-trezor didn't help. I ended up copying "cmdtr.py" file from python-trezor to my electrum folder.

Now stuck at "ImportError: cannot import name enum_type_wrapper"... maybe my protobuf is too old.

[stick]

Now stuck at "ImportError: cannot import name enum_type_wrapper"... maybe my protobuf is too old.

Protobuf has to be version >= 2.5.0. Also please move devel discussion to the mentioned list. Forum is horrible for more complex discussions because of the missing threads.

[Vintage]

So what is the estimated price range of plastic and a metal?

[BurtW]

I tried out wallet32 and loved it.
Then, you issued an update to the code, and now wallet32 will no longer install on my phone due to an application signature issue.
I even researched this for you and I believe the problem is that you recently switched to the latest JDK7 which has a known application signing issue.

I think all you need to do is go back to the earlier JDK6 and reissue the application to the Google store, then I should be able to download it and use it once again.

The ap signing issue along with some possible solutions is discussed here:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2519374/published-android-apk-gives-error-package-file-was-not-signed-correctly

NOTE:  this issue has been fixed.

I was able to download the latest version of Wallet32 to my Android phone and so far it appears to work (again)!

So we are back to having a totally workable solution to the "lost Trezor" problem:  just enter your words into Wallet32.

Disclaimer:  this will reduce the security of the Trezor.  But if the Trezor is lost that is exactly what you want to do - move your coins.

[klokan]

So what is the estimated price range of plastic and a metal?

thousands asked already, but nobody knows yet. we will have to wait one more month to see...

[Carlton Banks]

Any plans to work with BitID or BitAuth, so a Trezor could be used to store identities and authorise web access etc?

[slush]

Any plans to work with BitID or BitAuth

Actually it is BitID's or BitAuth's turn to integrate with hardware wallets.

so a Trezor could be used to store identities and authorise web access etc?

Trezor is already able to do this: https://twitter.com/GreenAddress/status/479939415088062464

[Carlton Banks]

Trezor is already able to do this: https://twitter.com/GreenAddress/status/479939415088062464

Ah, this is good to see.

My thought was that you guys might want to collaborate to standardise the way everyone uses the Trezor, so that the different systems are as interoperable as possible (which extended private key from the chain is selected as the ID, or whether to specify different xprivs for distinct purposes, whether the individual public keys or the extended public key is used as the SIN, etc). I see your point though, the Trezor is openly documented, and so people are free to implement however they choose to.

[stick]

My thought was that you guys might want to collaborate to standardise the way everyone uses the Trezor

We'll address this in the upcoming SLIP document. SLIP stands for SatoshiLabs Improvement Proposal and it will be a repo for specifications which are not suitable for inclusion into BIP repository for various reasons.

My current idea is to follow BIP-0043 and set the deterministic hierarchy path to m/N'/a'/b'/c'/d' where N will be the spec number and a,b,c,d are values derived from hash(domain_name) so each domain will get different key automatically. (BitId and BitAuth don't deal with automatic assigning of keys from deterministic pool at all and assume that user will do that manually, which is very clumsy and non-intuitive resulting in reuse of login keys similar to password reuse we see today).

[slush]

Today we've received first batch of Classics for testing. As you can see, Trezor quite likes swimming in Club Mate ;-)

[kkurtmann]

I want that one!

[kkurtmann]

from now on, I'm going to put my Trezor in every drink I have.

[slush]

from now on, I'm going to put my Trezor in every drink I have.

Please don't mention that during RMA process ;-). Seriously, I'm happy that TREZOR survives accident like this, but I would not do that on daily basis :-D.