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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530798 times)
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June 13, 2016, 04:42:42 AM
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Selling again ..

ANTMINER S9-B2 with 12.93T
Speed:    12.93TH/S
Weight:    5.5 kg
Price:       1985 USD
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June 13, 2016, 04:54:09 AM
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I'd love to buy a shiny new S9  Grin but as others have stated why jump it before the halving? Price tag is a little high. It's probable the S9 will drop in price over the next few months anyway unless difficulty and btc price have something to say otherwise....

Either way, nice work Bitmain. You've outdone yourselves on this one.
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June 13, 2016, 07:56:56 AM
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Why mining is not profitable after halving?

What can be the exact reason?

 It CAN still be profitable, but older less efficient gear probably won't be.

 Income will be cut in half (give or take difficulty shift) but the COST of the electric to run the miner won't change. Comes down, as usual, to how cheap your electric is - if it's cheap enough, S7s and Avalon 6s will still be (barely) profitable, S9s should be solidly profitable but will lose well over half their profit, and anything older than an S7 will probably turn into a serious moneyLOSER even if it's break-even or a little better right now.


 "The halfing" refers to the fact that somewhere in July, block 400,000 *IF* I remember correctly, the block rewards gets cut in half from the current 25BTC per block to 12.5 BTC per block.
 THAT is why "the halfing" is going to have a massive negative effect on Bitcoin profitability.

 Bitcoin price rise before then MIGHT mitigate the effects enough that even some older gear on low-cost electric will still be profitable, but EVERYONE is going to take a serious hit to their profitability.




 Bitmain seems to normally adjust their BTC price once a day - WHEN they aren't on "Dragon boat festival" holiday.


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June 13, 2016, 08:48:36 AM
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Why mining is not profitable after halving?

What can be the exact reason?

 It CAN still be profitable, but older less efficient gear probably won't be.

 Income will be cut in half (give or take difficulty shift) but the COST of the electric to run the miner won't change. Comes down, as usual, to how cheap your electric is - if it's cheap enough, S7s and Avalon 6s will still be (barely) profitable, S9s should be solidly profitable but will lose well over half their profit, and anything older than an S7 will probably turn into a serious moneyLOSER even if it's break-even or a little better right now.


 "The halfing" refers to the fact that somewhere in July, block 400,000 *IF* I remember correctly, the block rewards gets cut in half from the current 25BTC per block to 12.5 BTC per block.
 THAT is why "the halfing" is going to have a massive negative effect on Bitcoin profitability.

 Bitcoin price rise before then MIGHT mitigate the effects enough that even some older gear on low-cost electric will still be profitable, but EVERYONE is going to take a serious hit to their profitability.




 Bitmain seems to normally adjust their BTC price once a day - WHEN they aren't on "Dragon boat festival" holiday.



It will be profitable:
1. find a cheap or zero electricity
2. BTC price rises to a reasonable level
3. Supply of S9 is good (ie. not limited)

Meanwhile DHL send me a text, to sign off S9 when they deliver to my door steps in 24 hours....

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June 13, 2016, 09:48:56 AM
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Why mining is not profitable after halving?

What can be the exact reason?

 It CAN still be profitable, but older less efficient gear probably won't be.

 Income will be cut in half (give or take difficulty shift) but the COST of the electric to run the miner won't change. Comes down, as usual, to how cheap your electric is - if it's cheap enough, S7s and Avalon 6s will still be (barely) profitable, S9s should be solidly profitable but will lose well over half their profit, and anything older than an S7 will probably turn into a serious moneyLOSER even if it's break-even or a little better right now.


 "The halfing" refers to the fact that somewhere in July, block 400,000 *IF* I remember correctly, the block rewards gets cut in half from the current 25BTC per block to 12.5 BTC per block.
 THAT is why "the halfing" is going to have a massive negative effect on Bitcoin profitability.

 Bitcoin price rise before then MIGHT mitigate the effects enough that even some older gear on low-cost electric will still be profitable, but EVERYONE is going to take a serious hit to their profitability.




 Bitmain seems to normally adjust their BTC price once a day - WHEN they aren't on "Dragon boat festival" holiday.



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June 13, 2016, 12:19:05 PM
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what?! S9 sold out again...
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June 13, 2016, 12:23:36 PM
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what?! S9 sold out again...

Yep and at this price we're going to see some big jumps in difficulty.
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June 13, 2016, 12:28:34 PM
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Anyone know the numbers produced for the first two batches?
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June 13, 2016, 12:38:19 PM
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Is this gonna be as productive if bitcoin halves?

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June 13, 2016, 12:40:28 PM
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Anyone know the numbers produced for the first two batches?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1503062.msg15178681#msg15178681



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1503062.msg15182190#msg15182190



  392 batch 1

  228 batch 2

but you can do more work on it if you want  as there was a very big 4800 coin payment  which may be an internal bitmaintech transfer or a 1200 unit purchase.

so 600 to 1800  

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June 13, 2016, 12:53:50 PM
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Meanwhile DHL send me a text, to sign off S9 when they deliver to my door steps in 24 hours....

Im in for your review.... And if you can get some video of its sound levels if at all possible.  Im wondering Which would win, a S7 or a S9 in a DB contest XD

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June 13, 2016, 01:05:26 PM
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It should be same, since it is same power usage, so i guess same heat generation...

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June 13, 2016, 02:19:18 PM
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Meanwhile DHL send me a text, to sign off S9 when they deliver to my door steps in 24 hours....

Im in for your review.... And if you can get some video of its sound levels if at all possible.  Im wondering Which would win, a S7 or a S9 in a DB contest XD

I maxed out of amps -- this unit is going to go to a hosted DC - I may have to offline my ETH rigs for awhile to test - I will play by ear because both coins are rising to unprecedented levels now..... BTC $707 and ETH $16.9....

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June 13, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
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My S9 is still stuck in Shenzhen with FedEx, supposed to be here in the states tomorrow  Angry. Anybody else's made past Shenzhen and is US bound?

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June 13, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
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When will more be available?

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June 13, 2016, 02:54:15 PM
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Anyone know the numbers produced for the first two batches?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1503062.msg15178681#msg15178681



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1503062.msg15182190#msg15182190



  392 batch 1

  228 batch 2

but you can do more work on it if you want  as there was a very big 4800 coin payment  which may be an internal bitmaintech transfer or a 1200 unit purchase.

so 600 to 1800  

I I bought 5 xS9 B1 with USD, therefore, this number could be much higher.
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June 13, 2016, 02:56:43 PM
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My S9 is still stuck in Shenzhen with FedEx, supposed to be here in the states tomorrow  Angry. Anybody else's made past Shenzhen and is US bound?

My come on Tues.  I use UPS  much better for bitmaintech then Fedex.

At Tupsu   yeah  the 600 on the low end is only good for the low number.

the mystery 4800 coin transfer  could be a single order of 1200-1300 for a big farm .  or lots of cash orders or hashnest coins.

and the bank transfers are ? $ .

so even 600 to 1800 may be too low as the 1800 could be as bad as 2500.

At pumaro  no one knows but if they are smart they will hold back as coins rise in price.


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June 13, 2016, 02:59:56 PM
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DHL is cheapest to me. For 11x S9 this is a noticeable difference .
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June 13, 2016, 03:03:51 PM
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DHL is cheapest to me. For 11x S9 this is a noticeable difference .

I used DHL with Avalon6  pretty good service.

I used Fedex with spondoolies   way too much paperwork.

I used fedex and UPS with bitmaintech   fedex was a tiny bit cheaper but lots more paperwork and slow.  so I did about 30 orders with ups and 1 with fedex.

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June 13, 2016, 03:14:25 PM
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DHL is cheapest to me. For 11x S9 this is a noticeable difference .

I used DHL with Avalon6  pretty good service.

I used Fedex with spondoolies   way too much paperwork.

I used fedex and UPS with bitmaintech   fedex was a tiny bit cheaper but lots more paperwork and slow.  so I did about 30 orders with ups and 1 with fedex.

Maybe it depends on how the local office handles it but with Fedex I filled out a customs form once and that was it. They would bill me then if there are fees to be paid and I can pay them at my leisure. UPS on the other hand won't give me the package until I pay, which is quite stupid. I had to get a checkbook just because of that (the driver doesn't take credit cards or cash).
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