Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[Xircom]

What a dissapointing miner. Got 5 pcs S9`s and only 1 is working 100% even after firmware upgrade.
1 miner is running only 2 th on 1 board another miner is only running 2.4 TH on all 3 boards and 2 are completely dead. I bought even the new Bitmain PSU with the miners...
Holy moses im dissapointed.

[citronick]

What a dissapointing miner. Got 5 pcs S9`s and only 1 is working 100% even after firmware upgrade.
1 miner is running only 2 th on 1 board another miner is only running 2.4 TH on all 3 boards and 2 are completely dead. I bought even the new Bitmain PSU with the miners...
Holy moses im dissapointed.

FW upgrade? Was it recommended?

My S9-B1 is hashing ok but its running hot but now stabilized at 525mhz@11TH, out of box 13.4TH

[E]

What a dissapointing miner. Got 5 pcs S9`s and only 1 is working 100% even after firmware upgrade.
1 miner is running only 2 th on 1 board another miner is only running 2.4 TH on all 3 boards and 2 are completely dead. I bought even the new Bitmain PSU with the miners...
Holy moses im dissapointed.

FW upgrade? Was it recommended?

s9-20160608-650M-release.tar.gz - https://www.bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=00720160615035302444KTs9xiKF06B2

I haven't looked at in detail, but the BMminer build is one day newer than what was shipped on my Batch 1.

Check /usr/bin/compile_time

[scyth3]

What a dissapointing miner. Got 5 pcs S9`s and only 1 is working 100% even after firmware upgrade.
1 miner is running only 2 th on 1 board another miner is only running 2.4 TH on all 3 boards and 2 are completely dead. I bought even the new Bitmain PSU with the miners...
Holy moses im dissapointed.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

[numnutz2009]

What a dissapointing miner. Got 5 pcs S9`s and only 1 is working 100% even after firmware upgrade.
1 miner is running only 2 th on 1 board another miner is only running 2.4 TH on all 3 boards and 2 are completely dead. I bought even the new Bitmain PSU with the miners...
Holy moses im dissapointed.

hmm which new psu are you talking about?? the miners with the psu mounted on the top? those are only supposed to reach 2.7th/s on the default config. or do you mean the separate 1600w psu (if so those arent "new") they sell? that psu only runs on 220v power i believe so are you sure your using 220v and not 110v?? try using another psu with 4 pci-e power connectors and hook 1 up to the controller and the other 3 to one of the boards. power the miner on with 1 board at a time and see what the hashrate for each board is. this will help you determine which board has issues.

[Tupsu]

hmm which new psu are you talking about?? the miners with the psu mounted on the top? those are only supposed to reach 2.7th/s on the default config. or do you mean the separate 1600w psu (if so those arent "new") they sell? that psu only runs on 220v power i believe so are you sure your using 220v and not 110v?? try using another psu with 4 pci-e power connectors and hook 1 up to the controller and the other 3 to one of the boards. power the miner on with 1 board at a time and see what the hashrate for each board is. this will help you determine which board has issues.

Completely useless suggestions.

First of all, he lives in a country where is 230V electricity .
Second. I'm pretty sure he bought 1600W PSU.
Thirdly. S9 software shows each blade separately. Hashing speed and HV errors.
There is no need to disconnect anything.

I got my first five S9 and one is also "lemon".
Tomorrow brings  courier another 6x S9 . I hope they are better.

[Islidur]

hmm which new psu are you talking about?? the miners with the psu mounted on the top? those are only supposed to reach 2.7th/s on the default config. or do you mean the separate 1600w psu (if so those arent "new") they sell? that psu only runs on 220v power i believe so are you sure your using 220v and not 110v?? try using another psu with 4 pci-e power connectors and hook 1 up to the controller and the other 3 to one of the boards. power the miner on with 1 board at a time and see what the hashrate for each board is. this will help you determine which board has issues.

Completely useless suggestions.

First of all, he lives in a country where is 230V electricity .
Second. I'm pretty sure he bought 1600W PSU.
Thirdly. S9 software shows each blade separately. Hashing speed and HV errors.
There is no need to disconnect anything.

I got my first five S9 and one is also "lemon".
Tomorrow brings  courier another 6x S9 . I hope they are better.

Hope dies last, but the important thing is that it dies.
I've got three of em. I have to downclock to 525, 575, and 625 in order not get too many HW's (new Bitmain PSU's)

[jmumich]

The jump in price works against B1 buyers just as much as it works for them, since to buy batch 1 you had to buy BTC at about 30% less than it's going for now. So someone buying a later unit for the same USD would have to mine back about 30% less coin to break even, which because of diminishing returns from diff increases will mean breakeven more than 30% faster.

Mining almost works as a hedge against a price drop. Mining from late 2014 to fall 2015 led to great returns as difficulty was relatively flat.

[philipma1957]

Right - for this and fee reasons never use saved or mined btc to pay for a miner.  If you really think btc will go up, buy the btc with cash, then buy the miner.

Not sure I'm following - what difference does it make where the BTC came from? It's still the same amount that you need to ROI. Speaking of which - if you think that BTC will go up, why buy an overpriced miner that might or might not ROI in 9-12 months? BTC going up will just make it worse for ROI (likely faster difficulty growth etc).

the cost of mined a coin is not the same as purchased coin.

Much longer explanation is needed,but here goes.

I go to coinbase today right now spend 2k on coin and send it right to bitmaintech.  my cost is 2k in btc and in usd.

If I sold 8 gpus at 200 each in btc on June 1  I made a gain since the coin went up in fiat so I would use less coin 15 days later to buy the miner.

same applies if I mined coins from april to june 16 to buy the unit.  the coins went up in value.

[Puffy23]

The jump in price works against B1 buyers just as much as it works for them, since to buy batch 1 you had to buy BTC at about 30% less than it's going for now. So someone buying a later unit for the same USD would have to mine back about 30% less coin to break even, which because of diminishing returns from diff increases will mean breakeven more than 30% faster.

Mining almost works as a hedge against a price drop. Mining from late 2014 to fall 2015 led to great returns as difficulty was relatively flat.

Only if your miner can beat BTC ROI.

Otherwise you lose even more $$ in price drop as you have fewer coins than you started with, and they each have less value.

I guess the logic is that if price falls the miner will beat BTC ROI.  Yet another risk...

[not.you]

Well these batch 1 experiences don't sound very encouraging. 

[Biodom]

it would be interesting to tally up S9 B1 performance so far. There seem to be some complains, but let's put some real numbers on this.
Please respond (if you want) with four  parameters. If machine is DOA, obviously zeroes for speed.

1. Th at start, for example 1hr without mhz adjustment (if possible)  
2. Stable Th
3. stable mhz
4. ambient temp

[philipma1957]

What a dissapointing miner. Got 5 pcs S9`s and only 1 is working 100% even after firmware upgrade.
1 miner is running only 2 th on 1 board another miner is only running 2.4 TH on all 3 boards and 2 are completely dead. I bought even the new Bitmain PSU with the miners...
Holy moses im dissapointed.

wow that sucks bad.


my two

1 does freq 625 good temps.
1 does freq 587 good temps.

I do firmware after all other methods are tried.

I would have down clcoked the 2th at

 freq 650
 then 625
 then 600
then 575
 then 550
 then 525
then 500 if that failed

I would have pulled the psu from the best miner running close to spec and put it on the 2th 1 board miner. and tried freq 500 first.

if it worked I would know the boards are okay and the psu was shit.
if it did not work I would know the miner has an issue.


@biodom

1 very stable at freq 625 fans at 90%  about 13250
1 very stable at freq 587 fans at 90%  about 12750

they are good from 75 f to 90 f

[not.you]

hmm which new psu are you talking about?? the miners with the psu mounted on the top? those are only supposed to reach 2.7th/s on the default config. or do you mean the separate 1600w psu (if so those arent "new") they sell? that psu only runs on 220v power i believe so are you sure your using 220v and not 110v?? try using another psu with 4 pci-e power connectors and hook 1 up to the controller and the other 3 to one of the boards. power the miner on with 1 board at a time and see what the hashrate for each board is. this will help you determine which board has issues.

Completely useless suggestions.

First of all, he lives in a country where is 230V electricity .
Second. I'm pretty sure he bought 1600W PSU.
Thirdly. S9 software shows each blade separately. Hashing speed and HV errors.
There is no need to disconnect anything.

I got my first five S9 and one is also "lemon".
Tomorrow brings  courier another 6x S9 . I hope they are better.

Did you use multiple accounts to buy 11?  Did you buy more than 11?

Also, does anyone have a link to the spec sheet on the BM1387?  I can't find it on the site but I suspect it's there somewhere.

[d57heinz]

The jump in price works against B1 buyers just as much as it works for them, since to buy batch 1 you had to buy BTC at about 30% less than it's going for now. So someone buying a later unit for the same USD would have to mine back about 30% less coin to break even, which because of diminishing returns from diff increases will mean breakeven more than 30% faster.

If you can get one at the current rate... out of stock now. Not sure if Bitmain is playing games here but it's probably creating a sense of urgency for some buyers.

As for math early vs later, I prefer to look if you can mine the price difference in the time period between when those miners ship. I doubt Batch 1 will be able to mine a full coin before Monday when the first Batch 3 miners start arriving. The price difference was 4 vs 3 BTC. Batch 1 might have a slight hashrate advantage (14 vs 12.93) but I don't think that will be enough to close the price gap.

Reminds me of the tactic Chris used from ltcgear!  Worked well for him.  Sadly tho that turned to be a ponzi.  Least ya get something here.  Albeit again sold something not as advertised it seems.   Feels like Deja vu!


Edit. Looking forward to bitmain supplying everyone with compensation in hash to the pool of their liking in the amount of hashrate The machines are short.  Ahh there I go dreaming again;)

Seriously guys this is a joke.  They gouge you on price.  Loyal customers like yourselves and this is the treatment they give you??   Same bs last three miners   I guess they won't learn if we don't.  Democracy comes by where you spend your $

Best regards
D57heinz

[fr4nkthetank]

I feel....I feel many things.  What is the price of an s7 after halving.  what is the price of an s9 after halving.  You see, these miners are priced on expected ROI mesured in 2-4 months on average, depending on btc price.  after halving...won't the price go down to reflect the same rule ?  so i'm guessing...im going to wait.

[hawkfish007]

it would be interesting to tally up S9 B1 performance so far. There seem to be some complains, but let's put some real numbers on this.
Please respond (if you want) with four  parameters. If machine is DOA, obviously zeroes for speed.

1. Th at start, for example 1hr without mhz adjustment (if possible)  
2. Stable Th
3. stable mhz
4. ambient temp

Mine is apparently hashing at advertised 14 TH @ sidehack's. I will be able to post some data tomorrow after I get home.

[Cassey]

And it looks like, due to heat and errors, a lot of the 14TH machines won't actually run at 14TH reliably anyway.

Just to add a data point, my S9 B1 arrived today.  Had it up and running in perhaps 20 minutes (and headed to Lowes soon for filter and duct tape!)



It is running about 10C at the PCB level than my S7s, presuming the S7 firmware's temp is a PCB temp.  However they are also higher in the rack, so may have higher temp input air.

I'm seeing a few (like 3 in 30 minutes) hardware errors, and about 97% of the advertised 14TH, so well within the +/-5%.

Cassey

ps:  Mine apparently came with the June 8th firmware I see on the site:

[JaredKaragen]

Is anyone here brave enough to do submerged liquid cooling on one of these puppies?

It would lower the maintenance and noise concerns for most peeps...


I know it's an involved thing but considering how well a mineral oil cooler works with a PC, it's work asking if anyone is considering this route.... Because if I get an S9 or something that is similar to the S7 etc; I'd rather take the leap to have it oil/liquid cooled as soon as the warranty is up.

[0xfff]

Is anyone here brave enough to do submerged liquid cooling on one of these puppies?

It would lower the maintenance and noise concerns for most peeps...


I know it's an involved thing but considering how well a mineral oil cooler works with a PC, it's work asking if anyone is considering this route.... Because if I get an S9 or something that is similar to the S7 etc; I'd rather take the leap to have it oil/liquid cooled as soon as the warranty is up.

I'd love to see some pics of these cards hashing away while submerged in some mineral oil.