Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[mez]

Bitmain uses his own BMminer on this device.
The result is that the miner is unable to mine coins with lower difficulty.
Also renting out on Nicehash or Westhash doesn't work. All share get rejected, lots of hardware errors and temperature rises a LOT

It does work perfectly on bitcoin pools.
Why Bitmain, Why didn't you just use CGminer instead of your own branded miner that clearly isn't up to the task (yet)

[alienesb]

i will eat the charge and never order gear from bitmaintech again .

Hahaha, come on this is a lie! Wait until the next super miner comes out and you'll be there on day one.

[cryptotore]

I just checked my two s-9's coming on weds well they are now coming on thurs and both have a line I have never seen.
I bolded the line below.


Shenzhen, China   06/22/2016   1:00 A.M.   Export Scan
Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   10:15 P.M.
Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.



Lakewood, NJ, United States   06/21/2016   7:08 A.M.   The receiver must pay the duties or taxes due on the package.

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I wonder if maybe this happened because you have two S9's as a single shipment, and the total value exceeded some threshold. In the past haven't you had "single miner shipments"? Perhaps in the future it might be worth considering staggered orders which become staggered shipments?

I had the exact same thing happen. I had to pay $63.00 for my 5 miners.

When shipping to the USA if the value of a shipment exceeds $2,500 then Customs Import Duty kicks in. Same applies to folks returning from abroad with trinkets they picked up during their travels.

Considering the price of s9's yeah 2x def puts ya over that threshold.

EDIT: Interesting reading... https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/internet-purchases

You guys should be happy the tax rates are so low! I'm paying a default 25% import tax on my miners aka 520$, on top of the 2085$ miner price (Norway).

[sunny163]

I just checked my two s-9's coming on weds well they are now coming on thurs and both have a line I have never seen.
I bolded the line below.


Shenzhen, China   06/22/2016   1:00 A.M.   Export Scan
Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   10:15 P.M.
Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.



Lakewood, NJ, United States   06/21/2016   7:08 A.M.   The receiver must pay the duties or taxes due on the package.

.....

I wonder if maybe this happened because you have two S9's as a single shipment, and the total value exceeded some threshold. In the past haven't you had "single miner shipments"? Perhaps in the future it might be worth considering staggered orders which become staggered shipments?

I had the exact same thing happen. I had to pay $63.00 for my 5 miners.

When shipping to the USA if the value of a shipment exceeds $2,500 then Customs Import Duty kicks in. Same applies to folks returning from abroad with trinkets they picked up during their travels.

Considering the price of s9's yeah 2x def puts ya over that threshold.

EDIT: Interesting reading... https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/internet-purchases

You guys should be happy the tax rates are so low! I'm paying a default 25% import tax on my miners aka 520$, on top of the 2085$ miner price (Norway).

Yes they are very lucky i am paying 20% sometime and sometime around 26%

[Subw]

Bitmain uses his own BMminer on this device.

nope, it is stolen and renamed cgminer

The result is that the miner is unable to mine coins with lower difficulty.
Also renting out on Nicehash or Westhash doesn't work. All share get rejected, lots of hardware errors and temperature rises a LOT

this problem is known since S5 and i believe it is hardware related

[sidehack]

Pretty unlikely to be hardware-related, if it was on the S5. BM1384 have no problem working with vardiff 1.

[Micky25]

You guys should be happy the tax rates are so low! I'm paying a default 25% import tax on my miners aka 520$, on top of the 2085$ miner price (Norway).

Yes they are very lucky i am paying 20% sometime and sometime around 26%

Hail Europe, where you get as*fisted at any given opportunity.

[philipma1957]

I just checked my two s-9's coming on weds well they are now coming on thurs and both have a line I have never seen.
I bolded the line below.


Shenzhen, China   06/22/2016   1:00 A.M.   Export Scan
Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   10:15 P.M.
Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.



Lakewood, NJ, United States   06/21/2016   7:08 A.M.   The receiver must pay the duties or taxes due on the package.

.....

I wonder if maybe this happened because you have two S9's as a single shipment, and the total value exceeded some threshold. In the past haven't you had "single miner shipments"? Perhaps in the future it might be worth considering staggered orders which become staggered shipments?

I had the exact same thing happen. I had to pay $63.00 for my 5 miners.

When shipping to the USA if the value of a shipment exceeds $2,500 then Customs Import Duty kicks in. Same applies to folks returning from abroad with trinkets they picked up during their travels.

Considering the price of s9's yeah 2x def puts ya over that threshold.

EDIT: Interesting reading... https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/internet-purchases

You guys should be happy the tax rates are so low! I'm paying a default 25% import tax on my miners aka 520$, on top of the 2085$ miner price (Norway).

Yes they are very lucky i am paying 20% sometime and sometime around 26%

I can not complain as I have order s-1's s-3's s-5's s-7's and even 2 s9's and never paid a tax as of now.

 So even if it is 3% that would be about 123 usd.
If it is .3%  that would be 12.30 usd.

I was not complaining so much as I was  wondering what I would pay.


@ alienesb

  yeah  it was brooklyn speak   which is talking like you feel at that exact moment. 

Now that 12 hours have past lets face it I will buy more gear.

[Subw]

Pretty unlikely to be hardware-related, if it was on the S5. BM1384 have no problem working with vardiff 1.

S5 are known to lock itself when mining shitcoins on nicehash. Same apply to S7s but they only loose one hashing board untill soft reboot. I don't think this is cgminer problem as A6 also use cgminer but don't have such bug

[sidehack]

Yeah, but if you try to run Avalon6 version of cgminer on a Bitmain product it's not going to work. Each miner has its own driver for cgminer core, and Bitmain's code hasn't really been that good in about two years. The hardware doesn't care what it's hashing as long as the data is fed in in the right format. Pool issues, vardiff issues, shitcoin issues, all that is software.

[AriesIV10]

Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Crossfire-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?


platinum 342
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-PLATINUM-Crossfire-220-P2-1600-X1/dp/B00NJG61JQ/ref=sr_1_3?

gold 302
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-120-G2-1600-X1/dp/B00MMLUIE8/ref=sr_1_2?

How many of the Bitmain APW3's have you tried out? Through my testing I have 1 remote connected to a APW3 and one now at my place connected to an APW3 and not having issues with them.

What way are you testing the APW3 to determine they are coming up short?  I have been testing by running the units with them so wanted to what tests you were using to get this. Just trying to compare as we seem to be getting different results.

I have personally purchased and have been using 30 of the Bitmain PSUs with no issues so far.  The rest of my miners have been on rental PSUs.  I would say that over the time of 9 months is a very good track record.

[patrike]

The latest version of Awesome Miner adds support for Antminer S9.

Awesome Miner can monitor multiple miners and provide notifications, fault recovery, custom triggers and actions, SSH and scripting.

Screenshot of Awesome Miner monitoring the mining of Antminer S9:




Happy mining!

[Subw]

Yeah, but if you try to run Avalon6 version of cgminer on a Bitmain product it's not going to work. Each miner has its own driver for cgminer core, and Bitmain's code hasn't really been that good in about two years. The hardware doesn't care what it's hashing as long as the data is fed in in the right format. Pool issues, vardiff issues, shitcoin issues, all that is software.

I researched S5 image and sources and managed to compile my version of cgminer for S5 so no need to explain me software part as i am a programmer myself.
It's hard to argue that hardware is more likely to lockup computer than software.

[bomberb17]

Has anyone found how to tweak an Antminer to change web interface/ssh port for remotely controlling it?

[philipma1957]

Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Crossfire-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?


platinum 342
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-PLATINUM-Crossfire-220-P2-1600-X1/dp/B00NJG61JQ/ref=sr_1_3?

gold 302
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-120-G2-1600-X1/dp/B00MMLUIE8/ref=sr_1_2?

How many of the Bitmain APW3's have you tried out? Through my testing I have 1 remote connected to a APW3 and one now at my place connected to an APW3 and not having issues with them.

What way are you testing the APW3 to determine they are coming up short?  I have been testing by running the units with them so wanted to what tests you were using to get this. Just trying to compare as we seem to be getting different results.

I have personally purchased and have been using 30 of the Bitmain PSUs with no issues so far.  The rest of my miners have been on rental PSUs.  I would say that over the time of 9 months is a very good track record.

the s-7 uses 50 to 80 watts less then the s-9.

many symptoms described on the s-9 were lessened by down clocking  freq just a bit.  all anecdotal info.

all your 30 plus are on s-7 correct? how many are on the s-9.

mind you if you have climate control for you psu's (i.e. ambient under 80f)  you will get better results.

a psu right at its real world limit will be aid by a cooler temp.

And as I said i am basing all info on what I read here.  as I do not have a single antminer psu.

this graph clearly shows high ambient temps will hurt the antimatter psu.


a 5c temp shift drops amps from 133 to 117.

and if you really look at the temp graph the temp scaling is deceptive.

look at 20 c look at 50 c  then look at 55 c   it is not scaled correctly.

to the point that it is done to deceive your eyes.

[notlist3d]

Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Crossfire-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?


platinum 342
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-PLATINUM-Crossfire-220-P2-1600-X1/dp/B00NJG61JQ/ref=sr_1_3?

gold 302
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-120-G2-1600-X1/dp/B00MMLUIE8/ref=sr_1_2?

How many of the Bitmain APW3's have you tried out? Through my testing I have 1 remote connected to a APW3 and one now at my place connected to an APW3 and not having issues with them.

What way are you testing the APW3 to determine they are coming up short?  I have been testing by running the units with them so wanted to what tests you were using to get this. Just trying to compare as we seem to be getting different results.

I have personally purchased and have been using 30 of the Bitmain PSUs with no issues so far.  The rest of my miners have been on rental PSUs.  I would say that over the time of 9 months is a very good track record.

the s-7 uses 50 to 80 watts less then the s-9.

many symptoms described on the s-9 were lessened by down clocking  freq just a bit.  all anecdotal info.

all your 30 plus are on s-7 correct? how many are on the s-9.

mind you if you have climate control for you psu's (i.e. ambient under 80f)  you will get better results.

a psu right at its real world limit will be aid by a cooler temp.

And as I said i am basing all info on what I read here.  as I do not have a single antminer psu.

this graph clearly shows high ambient temps will hurt the antimatter psu.


a 5c temp shift drops amps from 133 to 117.

and if you really look at the temp graph the temp scaling is deceptive.

look at 20 c look at 50 c  then look at 55 c   it is not scaled correctly.

to the point that it is done to deceive your eyes.

(graph above)

I have also had good luck with the APW3's by bitmain.   I am testing by using them by running S9's and having no issues there.  One is a older one that ran a S7 for quite a while and now is powering a S9 and again not any issues.

I would hold off on saying it comes up  short personally.   I just have not experienced this and I realize I'm one person but at this point I have used 2 separate S9's and 2 APW3's.   So I would get some test's with hand's on them before deciding that the APW3's are coming up short.  And I'm just one person so I cannot speak for everyone but they seem to work for me fine.

[sidehack]

Also anecdotal, but in the last month I've shipped out 20 custom PSU setups intended to replace failed Bitmain PSUs in S4+ units, which draw about the same power as the S7 and S9.

[johnnyc]

Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Crossfire-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?


platinum 342
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-PLATINUM-Crossfire-220-P2-1600-X1/dp/B00NJG61JQ/ref=sr_1_3?

gold 302
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-120-G2-1600-X1/dp/B00MMLUIE8/ref=sr_1_2?

How many of the Bitmain APW3's have you tried out? Through my testing I have 1 remote connected to a APW3 and one now at my place connected to an APW3 and not having issues with them.

What way are you testing the APW3 to determine they are coming up short?  I have been testing by running the units with them so wanted to what tests you were using to get this. Just trying to compare as we seem to be getting different results.

I have personally purchased and have been using 30 of the Bitmain PSUs with no issues so far.  The rest of my miners have been on rental PSUs.  I would say that over the time of 9 months is a very good track record.

I too have had good luck with the APW3 PSUs.  I've had 20 of them over the past.  I currently have 10 of them connected to a relay/raspi setup to remotely power cycle the miners.  I'm using a combo of wiringpi and webiopi.  Working very well.

[notlist3d]

Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Crossfire-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?


platinum 342
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-PLATINUM-Crossfire-220-P2-1600-X1/dp/B00NJG61JQ/ref=sr_1_3?

gold 302
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-120-G2-1600-X1/dp/B00MMLUIE8/ref=sr_1_2?

How many of the Bitmain APW3's have you tried out? Through my testing I have 1 remote connected to a APW3 and one now at my place connected to an APW3 and not having issues with them.

What way are you testing the APW3 to determine they are coming up short?  I have been testing by running the units with them so wanted to what tests you were using to get this. Just trying to compare as we seem to be getting different results.

I have personally purchased and have been using 30 of the Bitmain PSUs with no issues so far.  The rest of my miners have been on rental PSUs.  I would say that over the time of 9 months is a very good track record.

I too have had good luck with the APW3 PSUs.  I've had 20 of them over the past.  I currently have 10 of them connected to a relay/raspi setup to remotely power cycle the miners.  I'm using a combo of wiringpi and webiopi.  Working very well.

And re-reading through it I want to make sure it is known I am not meaning to come across rude with questions, I hate that email/posts don't show emotion like talking.

I just have had a good experience with APW3's in past with S7's and now with two S9's.   So I would hate for people to start thinking APW3's are coming up short when in fact many of us are having good luck with them.   And considering the S9 was designed to run off of them and is recommended PSU I think it should not come up short.

Again my testing is done by running 2 S9's off APW3's.  If someone has done a test with them showing and ran into problems specifically with APW3 please share it, I just have not seen real test's showing it.  I am just one person so I realize small scale test,  but I have not had any issues with them.

[philipma1957]

Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Crossfire-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?


platinum 342
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-PLATINUM-Crossfire-220-P2-1600-X1/dp/B00NJG61JQ/ref=sr_1_3?

gold 302
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-120-G2-1600-X1/dp/B00MMLUIE8/ref=sr_1_2?

How many of the Bitmain APW3's have you tried out? Through my testing I have 1 remote connected to a APW3 and one now at my place connected to an APW3 and not having issues with them.

What way are you testing the APW3 to determine they are coming up short?  I have been testing by running the units with them so wanted to what tests you were using to get this. Just trying to compare as we seem to be getting different results.

I have personally purchased and have been using 30 of the Bitmain PSUs with no issues so far.  The rest of my miners have been on rental PSUs.  I would say that over the time of 9 months is a very good track record.

I too have had good luck with the APW3 PSUs.  I've had 20 of them over the past.  I currently have 10 of them connected to a relay/raspi setup to remotely power cycle the miners.  I'm using a combo of wiringpi and webiopi.  Working very well.

And re-reading through it I want to make sure it is known I am not meaning to come across rude with questions, I hate that email/posts don't show emotion like talking.

I just have had a good experience with APW3's in past with S7's and now with two S9's.   So I would hate for people to start thinking APW3's are coming up short when in fact many of us are having good luck with them.   And considering the S9 was designed to run off of them and is recommended PSU I think it should not come up short.

Again my testing is done by running 2 S9's off APW3's.  If someone has done a test with them showing and ran into problems specifically with APW3 please share it, I just have not seen real test's showing it.  I am just one person so I realize small scale test,  but I have not had any issues with them.

to further clarify it may be the 3 people that I based this on are using

 hp dps1200 psu's not  bitmaintech 1600 watt psu's

as one of the three people have received info from their it/data center that the psu is a dps1200  not a 1600 watt bitmaintech as they first told me.

the dps1200 is specced at 1200 watts using 240 volts and would certainly be more likely to be short then the bitmaintech 1600watts psu. specced at 1600watts.