[PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform

[Lazarus2016]

ICO Update - Day Four

Members: 217
Number of investments: 104
Amount invested: 61.32 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

Massive amount of investment here.

[animalroam]

You're doing fine so far, already 76 BTC invested. Maybe just do what BRK devs did and ignore the FUD. It's not going to stop if you add escrow. It's not going to stop if you reveal everything about yourselves. I agree, 40k is about enough for 2 months of work, could easily burn through it in a week tbh.

The reality is that there are a lot of ignorant people that think they know how things "should" be done, but they forget about all of the times that people "got scammed" by ICOs using escrow and revealing their identities. Legal action is rarely successful. Escrow might make some people comfortable but consider a lot of those people weren't going to invest anyways. Escrow releases funds with minimal requirements so there's no real benefit to using it. Not by the definition of "scam" that passes around here, anyways.

If your coin enters the market at below "X" it's a scam. If your coin goes down in value it's a scam. If the dev needs to sleep or eat then it's a scam. If you don't update the thread every day with progress, it's a scam. No matter what, they find some reason to accuse you of scamming.


I'm not saying Opair is or isn't a scam. I'm saying that people will think it's a scam no matter what you do. You can't please everyone, ever.


But, if you really want to make that 700 BTC mark. Contact SebastianJu and figure it out. Escrow will make more people invest more. There is no real downfall to using it if you're running a legitimate project that plans to go the full course, even if you're not. A good scam can make it past escrow, lol. Look at the projects you yourself have compared this to. They used escrow. They raised the amount you want to raise. You have to see the correlation there. Also, don't be scared of threats from these fools. Most wouldn't leave their house to do something if you were tied up and left on their lawn. Ignore the FUD. Listen to investors. Work with us.

It's definitely strange that an accomplished developer has no commits or sources. Simply by Googling my username you can find me and I haven't worked for any major companies. I'm an amateur developer with less than 4 years of experience but I'm easily found. Why isn't a full stack dev with 20+ years? My partner is a full stack dev and has an extremely common name and can still be found easily.  That's how you get venture capital level funding.  Transparency.

If you don't raise 700+ BTC with this project at this price per coin then it will be entirely because of your lack of transparency and refusal to use escrow. Blaming FUD is sad.

Go look at WAVES/LISK/RISE threads and tell me how it prevented them. Look at the situation with ETH. How much did they raise again? Lots of FUD in their thread too. You only have yourself to blame, as the marketing coordinator.

+1. I agreed with everything you said but didn't want to make the post so long... it's already long enough. lol

I completely agree. Escrow is actually in the best interest of Opair provided that it's not a scam.

I am waiting for my invitation to Slack. Hopefully, the investors who are interested can discuss in peace without constant FUD.

[yonatangov]

hi devs,

1. When will the coins be distributed to the investors and be ready to go on exchanges?
2. I didn't get what's new about this project and what makes it unique compare to other projects that look the same.. ?

tnx

[menace.bit]

The rocket has not yet launched but so much negativity & FUD already spreading and ICO is still in its 1st week. And dev is putting more flame to the fire by making such statement.

2) You are killing the project with all this drama. The funds we collect will be used entirely for our project. If you are exaggerating the whole thing and accusing without evidence, you will be responsible for killing a legitimate project. That is, there are people in the forum who want us out of the field, before we have not even begun.

This is typically an exit statement for a scam blaming a few people that they killed the project by spreading false rumors or accusation of scam. A few people cannot take down a big project if its an honest, trusted and offers innovation. So all dev has do is to rebutt the false accusations and prove the project is intent in delivering its promises.

The success of a project is partly delivered by development team but more importantly, the investors willing to gamble their precious BTC on unknown devs promising lots of things, who they will never meet or have heard of previously.

[Investmon]

Well i put some money in this project. Hope this one ICO will be okay =/

[wasserman99]

The rocket has not yet launched but so much negativity & FUD already spreading and ICO is still in its 1st week. And dev is putting more flame to the fire by making such statement.

2) You are killing the project with all this drama. The funds we collect will be used entirely for our project. If you are exaggerating the whole thing and accusing without evidence, you will be responsible for killing a legitimate project. That is, there are people in the forum who want us out of the field, before we have not even begun.

This is typically an exit statement for a scam blaming a few people that they killed the project by spreading false rumors or accusation of scam. A few people cannot take down a big project if its an honest, trusted and offers innovation. So all dev has do is to rebutt the false accusations and prove the project is intent in delivering its promises.

The success of a project is partly delivered by development team but more importantly, the investors willing to gamble their precious BTC on unknown devs promising lots of things, who they will never meet or have heard of previously.

Do not worry because we are to stay, but the amount raised is what will restrict the goals we are going to achieve. It is not the same to count with 50 or the 700 BTC that we needed.

hi devs,

1. When will the coins be distributed to the investors and be ready to go on exchanges?
2. I didn't get what's new about this project and what makes it unique compare to other projects that look the same.. ?

tnx

1. As soon as the ICO finishes the distribution will be done and, following that, the launch in the exchanges.
2. We offer unique features such as decentralized debit cards and other features probably already known to you from other projects with a different approach like the use of a functional language to implement it in smart contracts.

 

• Colored Coins

Our goal is to provide support to the Colored Coins, whose objective is to represent and manage any value/asset/fungible good (like equities, bonds, commodities, fiat currencies, game items, etc.) on top of the Opair blockchain. They can be stored digitally without the interference of a third party and be exchanged for other colored coins or standard XPO in a transaction. The code that is responsible for managing the Colored Coins is in the top of the Opair blockchain, so all implementations will allow its use within our wallet and will not need a specific client. This will provide more simplicity, security, will be more capable.

• Smart Contracts

As regards Smart Contracts (to support DAOs, legal contracts, crowdfundings, prediction markets, IoT, Prediction Markets, Dapps, etc.) we decided to work with functional programming instead of imperative programming languages after doing some research on Solidity. Although neither Haskell nor OCaml, the most recognizable functional programming languages, meet our expectations we decided to work with a personalized version of Ocaml. Soon we will be offering a wiki in Github with documents on the language but if you already handle OCaml you should have no problems with it. Our approach will not be to get an easy to code language, instead it will be reaching a solid solution that it will not be easy to be manipulated but it will make a difference. Some considerations about Haskell and Ocaml:

1) Although OCaml a fewer number collection of libraries, these have higher quality than Haskell.

2) OCaml has more presence in industrial and financial solutions. It has a great support for parallel and concurrent computing.

3) Haskell has typeclasses. OCaml has higher-order modules. Typeclasses are good "in the small" for things like overloading arithmetic operators. Modules are good "in the large" for structural industrial-size code bases. For Example: https://ocaml.org/learn/companies.html

4) Both of them have strong points but we had to make up our minds and we chose OCaml for the reasons listed above. For those who handle both languages will surely agree on the fact that OCaml is easier to handle.  

Furthermore we intend to meet online with Xavier Leroy, the main developer of the OCaml System to show him our modifications and insights behind our project. Some more examples: http://cufp.galois.com/2007/slides/XavierLeroy.pdf

• Market Core with decentralized reputation system

The market will allow you to buy and sell gods or services from the Opair´s platform. It will include a system of reputation in which anyone who has made business can qualify the seller bringing trust and transparency. Also it will be separated by categories and tags.

• Private chains

In those cases there will be an entity that will manage the blockchain which can change the  rules, if so desired, revert transactions and modify balances and so on given that they have the write permissions (they can be either public or not).  

Along by the private chains we will give support to a more descentralised (semi) alternative known as consortium chains which will be run by a pre-elected set of nodes instead of only one. Likewise, they will count with advantages with regard to the mainchain depending on the circumstances such as:

1)   It should be point out that speed of transactions will be greater in comparison to the offered in the mainchain due to the fact that there will be few nodes verified and given they are all mostly reliable it will not be necessary to verify them all. These will count with high end computers and the best internet connection.  

2)   Every block chain will be configurable under certain standards that we will establish which will show the requirements and goals of their creators.

3)   Transactions will be far cheaper than the mainchain given that only a few nodes will have to be verified (there will be no need of charging if there is only one person who processes all of the transactions).

As you can imagine these blockchains offer a more efficient, faster and outstanding solution mostly for companies and financial or governamental organizations who can use it for auditing, developing or optimize their organization. Also it will work as a testing ground mostly to test smart contracts, develop or just to play around. Even though in most cases public chains are outstanding, it is equally true that in particular cases a greater control over the chain is imperative. We want to offer along with our platform a solution for both cases.

• Alias System

We want to create an ALIAS system. It will work with a registration, similar to domains, to leave behind those long and tiring traditional adresses. This will benefit especially but not excusively to businesses who wish to join our network.

• Decentralized debit cards

Debit cards were in our minds since day one, for it is one of the preferred payment methods of customers nowadays and we aim to mass market adoption, so this goal may not be too surprising. The idea is to eliminate all the intermediaries in the process in order to save time and money, and also the unwanted consequences that brings centralization (frozen accounts, delays, usage of our own private information, etc). Note that it will have disadvantages such as if you wish to create and load your own cards you will need to have a particular hardware. On the other hand, there will be lots of payment terminals/point of sale terminals that will receive a special update with a custom firmware made by us in order to accept our debit cards (this will happen with payment terminals/point of sale non- EMV compatibles). In most terminals compatible with EMV (for more information about EMV visit: http://www.emv-connection.com/emv-faq/ and https://www.level2kernel.com/emv-guide.html) will work without any problems but you can still use our firmware to have advantages like counting with Opair´s branding or offer high performance.    

It is a system that still needs work on optimization in further tests because we are running tests that run on approximately 8 to 9 seconds per transaction. Said function is going to be one of the first to be optimized in our Beta version (you can find out below how to participate on Beta version).  

Our final goal it is that any person can create their own debit card, anywhere, and a few moments later, carry it out and about without difficulties. We would like to be the firsts in launching this feature that we will be seeked and cherished in the near future and as we are an open source project we would like to share it to all the community as we understand this philosophy as a benefit that benefits the community as a whole. This will also allow growth, improvement and usage from other projects. We understand that Emunie is working in a similar solution but it still not publicly available therefore if we manage to keep it up and running steadily in first place, it will be brilliant. We would like to have a meeting, given the territorial closeness with Fuserleer, which can be very beneficial for both projects. We will try to arrange a meeting between Frank and Fuserleer in the future.  

• Crowdfunding platform

We aim to create a platform that can boost any innovating idea that needs resources or budget to take off. You just need to set a goal, rewards and a deadline. Another perk is that you will find the security that brings a decentralized platform, open sourced and without intermediaries taking big percentages from investments.

• Transactions speed and Scalability

When we speak of scalability, we must speak about one of the most important problems found in blockchains nowadays, that’s why we want Opair to be prepared since day one to support more transactions per second than Bitcoin’s network allows and to offer a top speed for each transaction (seconds, not minutes). This has to be a must-have if we want to reach all audiences and that it enables its use all over the world.  

Ideally we would like, for starters, to get a 200 tps and build up from there as usage grows (as a remainder Bitcoin’s network is restricted to a sustained rate of 7 tps due to the Bitcoin protocol restricting block sizes to 1 MB). Even though there are current solutions that offer 1000 tps  (or more) we believe that they are not following the line of work that we would like. We are taking into consideration a lot of elements like blockchain size, internet bandwidth, processing power, private chains etc., when it comes to outline the course that our solution will offer and analyzing the different alternatives on this subject. On the other hand, regarding private chains, as we said before each of them will be completely configurable under some standards in which the needs and goals of the creators will be reflected. Also given the features mentioned above, they do not have scalability issues, at least not in comparison to public chain. 

• Privacy Solutions

This is a distant future fieldwork because it is something we do not want to overlook but we understand there more pressing fieldworks before focusing on this matter.  

Speaking about current solutions we discourage the implementation of ring signatures because it “only” generates more layer of anonymity in transactions and not full anonymity. At the moment we do not have clear the path that we will establish in this matter and this will be something we will definitely define in the future given its importance.    

After analyzing current technologies, we consider Zcash proposal is outstanding and it is the only one that offers the level of anonymity that we want to give Opair. Zooko Wilcox and their team behind Zcash have a great solution in their hands and they are a sample of the innovation that can be achieved in that area. Any workthrough regarding the matter will be communicated through our media channels.

Regards

[menace.bit]

The rocket has not yet launched but so much negativity & FUD already spreading and ICO is still in its 1st week. And dev is putting more flame to the fire by making such statement.

2) You are killing the project with all this drama. The funds we collect will be used entirely for our project. If you are exaggerating the whole thing and accusing without evidence, you will be responsible for killing a legitimate project. That is, there are people in the forum who want us out of the field, before we have not even begun.

This is typically an exit statement for a scam blaming a few people that they killed the project by spreading false rumors or accusation of scam. A few people cannot take down a big project if its an honest, trusted and offers innovation. So all dev has do is to rebutt the false accusations and prove the project is intent in delivering its promises.

The success of a project is partly delivered by development team but more importantly, the investors willing to gamble their precious BTC on unknown devs promising lots of things, who they will never meet or have heard of previously.

Do not worry because we are to stay, but the amount raised is what will restrict the goals we are going to achieve. It is not the same to count with 50 or the 700 BTC that we needed.

hi devs,

1. When will the coins be distributed to the investors and be ready to go on exchanges?
2. I didn't get what's new about this project and what makes it unique compare to other projects that look the same.. ?

tnx

1. As soon as the ICO finishes the distribution will be done and, following that, the launch in the exchanges.
2. We offer unique features such as decentralized debit cards and other features probably already known to you from other projects with a different approach like the use of a functional language to implement it in smart contracts.

 

• Colored Coins

Our goal is to provide support to the Colored Coins, whose objective is to represent and manage any value/asset/fungible good (like equities, bonds, commodities, fiat currencies, game items, etc.) on top of the Opair blockchain. They can be stored digitally without the interference of a third party and be exchanged for other colored coins or standard XPO in a transaction. The code that is responsible for managing the Colored Coins is in the top of the Opair blockchain, so all implementations will allow its use within our wallet and will not need a specific client. This will provide more simplicity, security, will be more capable.

• Smart Contracts

As regards Smart Contracts (to support DAOs, legal contracts, crowdfundings, prediction markets, IoT, Prediction Markets, Dapps, etc.) we decided to work with functional programming instead of imperative programming languages after doing some research on Solidity. Although neither Haskell nor OCaml, the most recognizable functional programming languages, meet our expectations we decided to work with a personalized version of Ocaml. Soon we will be offering a wiki in Github with documents on the language but if you already handle OCaml you should have no problems with it. Our approach will not be to get an easy to code language, instead it will be reaching a solid solution that it will not be easy to be manipulated but it will make a difference. Some considerations about Haskell and Ocaml:

1) Although OCaml a fewer number collection of libraries, these have higher quality than Haskell.

2) OCaml has more presence in industrial and financial solutions. It has a great support for parallel and concurrent computing.

3) Haskell has typeclasses. OCaml has higher-order modules. Typeclasses are good "in the small" for things like overloading arithmetic operators. Modules are good "in the large" for structural industrial-size code bases. For Example: https://ocaml.org/learn/companies.html

4) Both of them have strong points but we had to make up our minds and we chose OCaml for the reasons listed above. For those who handle both languages will surely agree on the fact that OCaml is easier to handle.  

Furthermore we intend to meet online with Xavier Leroy, the main developer of the OCaml System to show him our modifications and insights behind our project. Some more examples: http://cufp.galois.com/2007/slides/XavierLeroy.pdf

• Market Core with decentralized reputation system

The market will allow you to buy and sell gods or services from the Opair´s platform. It will include a system of reputation in which anyone who has made business can qualify the seller bringing trust and transparency. Also it will be separated by categories and tags.

• Private chains

In those cases there will be an entity that will manage the blockchain which can change the  rules, if so desired, revert transactions and modify balances and so on given that they have the write permissions (they can be either public or not).  

Along by the private chains we will give support to a more descentralised (semi) alternative known as consortium chains which will be run by a pre-elected set of nodes instead of only one. Likewise, they will count with advantages with regard to the mainchain depending on the circumstances such as:

1)   It should be point out that speed of transactions will be greater in comparison to the offered in the mainchain due to the fact that there will be few nodes verified and given they are all mostly reliable it will not be necessary to verify them all. These will count with high end computers and the best internet connection.  

2)   Every block chain will be configurable under certain standards that we will establish which will show the requirements and goals of their creators.

3)   Transactions will be far cheaper than the mainchain given that only a few nodes will have to be verified (there will be no need of charging if there is only one person who processes all of the transactions).

As you can imagine these blockchains offer a more efficient, faster and outstanding solution mostly for companies and financial or governamental organizations who can use it for auditing, developing or optimize their organization. Also it will work as a testing ground mostly to test smart contracts, develop or just to play around. Even though in most cases public chains are outstanding, it is equally true that in particular cases a greater control over the chain is imperative. We want to offer along with our platform a solution for both cases.

• Alias System

We want to create an ALIAS system. It will work with a registration, similar to domains, to leave behind those long and tiring traditional adresses. This will benefit especially but not excusively to businesses who wish to join our network.

• Decentralized debit cards

Debit cards were in our minds since day one, for it is one of the preferred payment methods of customers nowadays and we aim to mass market adoption, so this goal may not be too surprising. The idea is to eliminate all the intermediaries in the process in order to save time and money, and also the unwanted consequences that brings centralization (frozen accounts, delays, usage of our own private information, etc). Note that it will have disadvantages such as if you wish to create and load your own cards you will need to have a particular hardware. On the other hand, there will be lots of payment terminals/point of sale terminals that will receive a special update with a custom firmware made by us in order to accept our debit cards (this will happen with payment terminals/point of sale non- EMV compatibles). In most terminals compatible with EMV (for more information about EMV visit: http://www.emv-connection.com/emv-faq/ and https://www.level2kernel.com/emv-guide.html) will work without any problems but you can still use our firmware to have advantages like counting with Opair´s branding or offer high performance.    

It is a system that still needs work on optimization in further tests because we are running tests that run on approximately 8 to 9 seconds per transaction. Said function is going to be one of the first to be optimized in our Beta version (you can find out below how to participate on Beta version).  

Our final goal it is that any person can create their own debit card, anywhere, and a few moments later, carry it out and about without difficulties. We would like to be the firsts in launching this feature that we will be seeked and cherished in the near future and as we are an open source project we would like to share it to all the community as we understand this philosophy as a benefit that benefits the community as a whole. This will also allow growth, improvement and usage from other projects. We understand that Emunie is working in a similar solution but it still not publicly available therefore if we manage to keep it up and running steadily in first place, it will be brilliant. We would like to have a meeting, given the territorial closeness with Fuserleer, which can be very beneficial for both projects. We will try to arrange a meeting between Frank and Fuserleer in the future.  

• Crowdfunding platform

We aim to create a platform that can boost any innovating idea that needs resources or budget to take off. You just need to set a goal, rewards and a deadline. Another perk is that you will find the security that brings a decentralized platform, open sourced and without intermediaries taking big percentages from investments.

• Transactions speed and Scalability

When we speak of scalability, we must speak about one of the most important problems found in blockchains nowadays, that’s why we want Opair to be prepared since day one to support more transactions per second than Bitcoin’s network allows and to offer a top speed for each transaction (seconds, not minutes). This has to be a must-have if we want to reach all audiences and that it enables its use all over the world.  

Ideally we would like, for starters, to get a 200 tps and build up from there as usage grows (as a remainder Bitcoin’s network is restricted to a sustained rate of 7 tps due to the Bitcoin protocol restricting block sizes to 1 MB). Even though there are current solutions that offer 1000 tps  (or more) we believe that they are not following the line of work that we would like. We are taking into consideration a lot of elements like blockchain size, internet bandwidth, processing power, private chains etc., when it comes to outline the course that our solution will offer and analyzing the different alternatives on this subject. On the other hand, regarding private chains, as we said before each of them will be completely configurable under some standards in which the needs and goals of the creators will be reflected. Also given the features mentioned above, they do not have scalability issues, at least not in comparison to public chain. 

• Privacy Solutions

This is a distant future fieldwork because it is something we do not want to overlook but we understand there more pressing fieldworks before focusing on this matter.  

Speaking about current solutions we discourage the implementation of ring signatures because it “only” generates more layer of anonymity in transactions and not full anonymity. At the moment we do not have clear the path that we will establish in this matter and this will be something we will definitely define in the future given its importance.    

After analyzing current technologies, we consider Zcash proposal is outstanding and it is the only one that offers the level of anonymity that we want to give Opair. Zooko Wilcox and their team behind Zcash have a great solution in their hands and they are a sample of the innovation that can be achieved in that area. Any workthrough regarding the matter will be communicated through our media channels.

Regards

So if you get 100 BTC (since you've passed 60+ BTC mark already) which of the "Key Features" as promised will be delivered? If you get to Stratis/RISE level (900 - 1800+ BTC) which "Key Features" will it be?
It will be a long shot by what will be the goals if you reach the same ICO funds as raised by LISK/WAVES/ETH?

[wasserman99]

Menace.bit, we believe that, at least, 700 BTC would need to put together. From then on, all collected serve to optimize, accelerate, hire more people, marketing, legal costs, go to more events and create a division that works as an incubator in the ecosystem we aim to create in Opair. We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. If we raised less, we will have to study the situation when we have the final amount to set realistic goals that can be achieved with that amount. The initial proposal presented requires many months of work to finish it all. Even the idea is to provide lifetime support to Opair, thanks to the organization we want to build.

Regards

[Vagnavs]

Menace.bit, we believe that, at least, 700 BTC would need to put together. From then on, all collected serve to optimize, accelerate, hire more people, marketing, legal costs, go to more events and create a division that works as an incubator in the ecosystem we aim to create in Opair. We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. If we raised less, we will have to study the situation when we have the final amount to set realistic goals that can be achieved with that amount. The initial proposal presented requires many months of work to finish it all. Even the idea is to provide lifetime support to Opair, thanks to the organization we want to build.

Regards

That's going to be a difficult goal without escrow being offered. I brought up a few questions about privacy. Do you care to address them?

After doing some checking..

Such as the domain name registrant being

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

Using cloud flare and open mailbox.

These are typically things used by Nefarious people/groups.. Not sure why such privacy is needed..

[BasementRot]

The people who invested but are now crying scam because there is no escrow are obviously unstable. It was clearly stated before the ICO started.. I chose to invest anyways.

I can understand why the devs want privacy. People can be crazy, especially if they think you cost them money or owe them something. But which do the devs want more, privacy or 700 btc to start a business that can easily make them millionaires? It's starting to seem like they can't have both and it has nothing to do with the FUD spreaders.

[wasserman99]

Menace.bit, we believe that, at least, 700 BTC would need to put together. From then on, all collected serve to optimize, accelerate, hire more people, marketing, legal costs, go to more events and create a division that works as an incubator in the ecosystem we aim to create in Opair. We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. If we raised less, we will have to study the situation when we have the final amount to set realistic goals that can be achieved with that amount. The initial proposal presented requires many months of work to finish it all. Even the idea is to provide lifetime support to Opair, thanks to the organization we want to build.

Regards

That's going to be a difficult goal without escrow being offered. I brought up a few questions about privacy. Do you care to address them?

After doing some checking..

Such as the domain name registrant being

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

Using cloud flare and open mailbox.

These are typically things used by Nefarious people/groups.. Not sure why such privacy is needed..

Is it wrong to take security measures to safeguard our sensitive information and protect us against possible cyber attacks?
Better be safe than sorry.

Regards

[electronicash]

Menace.bit, we believe that, at least, 700 BTC would need to put together. From then on, all collected serve to optimize, accelerate, hire more people, marketing, legal costs, go to more events and create a division that works as an incubator in the ecosystem we aim to create in Opair. We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. If we raised less, we will have to study the situation when we have the final amount to set realistic goals that can be achieved with that amount. The initial proposal presented requires many months of work to finish it all. Even the idea is to provide lifetime support to Opair, thanks to the organization we want to build.

Regards

That's going to be a difficult goal without escrow being offered. I brought up a few questions about privacy. Do you care to address them?

After doing some checking..

Such as the domain name registrant being

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

Using cloud flare and open mailbox.

These are typically things used by Nefarious people/groups.. Not sure why such privacy is needed..

Is it wrong to take security measures to safeguard our sensitive information and protect us against possible cyber attacks?
Better be safe than sorry.

Regards

Then we will take precautions to warn investors not to put money on your ICO. This is to safeguard them from being scammed.
Better be safe than sorry as well.

[wasserman99]

Menace.bit, we believe that, at least, 700 BTC would need to put together. From then on, all collected serve to optimize, accelerate, hire more people, marketing, legal costs, go to more events and create a division that works as an incubator in the ecosystem we aim to create in Opair. We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. If we raised less, we will have to study the situation when we have the final amount to set realistic goals that can be achieved with that amount. The initial proposal presented requires many months of work to finish it all. Even the idea is to provide lifetime support to Opair, thanks to the organization we want to build.

Regards

That's going to be a difficult goal without escrow being offered. I brought up a few questions about privacy. Do you care to address them?

After doing some checking..

Such as the domain name registrant being

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

Using cloud flare and open mailbox.

These are typically things used by Nefarious people/groups.. Not sure why such privacy is needed..

Is it wrong to take security measures to safeguard our sensitive information and protect us against possible cyber attacks?
Better be safe than sorry.

Regards

Then we will take precautions to warn investors not to put money on your ICO. This is to safeguard them from being scammed.
Better be safe than sorry as well.

Exactly, I agree with you. You are free to choose this project if you agree with our rules and if you're not, simply invest elsewhere. We know that we will never please everyone.

Regards

[wasserman99]

ICO Update - Day Five

Members: 219
Number of investments: 105
Amount invested: 61.32 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

[wavespump]

ICO Update - Day Five

Members: 219
Number of investments: 105
Amount invested: 61.32 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

No one will join this ico until you disclose your team info, it is a very fishy project now, and you have received 61 btc, that's enough for you because you wrote so long article to lure investors.

Last night(12 hours ago) I saw these TXs, but now still there, so everyone gets warned. 

[bitwarrior]

ICO Update - Day Five

Members: 219
Number of investments: 105
Amount invested: 61.32 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

No one will join this ico until you disclose your team info, it is a very fishy project now, and you have received 61 btc, that's enough for you because you wrote so long article to lure investors.

Last night(12 hours ago) I saw these TXs, but now still there, so everyone gets warned. 

This is a really very interesting ICO. People have put a lot of trust to this ICO even though there is NO Escrow involved. It is an overwhelming response from the investors putting their trust to these 2 people who have provided just Linkedin profiles as their proof of legitimacy of their skills and trustworthiness.

Goodluck to those who have invested.

[zeta1]

Hi,

Is a webcam session with the devs possible? Or out of the  thanks

[Perryl]

Menace.bit, we believe that, at least, 700 BTC would need to put together. From then on, all collected serve to optimize, accelerate, hire more people, marketing, legal costs, go to more events and create a division that works as an incubator in the ecosystem we aim to create in Opair. We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. If we raised less, we will have to study the situation when we have the final amount to set realistic goals that can be achieved with that amount. The initial proposal presented requires many months of work to finish it all. Even the idea is to provide lifetime support to Opair, thanks to the organization we want to build.

Regards

That's going to be a difficult goal without escrow being offered. I brought up a few questions about privacy. Do you care to address them?

After doing some checking..

Such as the domain name registrant being

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

Using cloud flare and open mailbox.

These are typically things used by Nefarious people/groups.. Not sure why such privacy is needed..

Cloudflare is used by just about everyone. The rest of your comment loses all merit when you include that. If you're smart enough to be able to research then you should be smart enough to know that Cloudflare is a valuable tool to administrators of all kinds. Regardless of the type of business.

I'm sure Reddit, Cisco, and Nasdaq are malicious just because they use Cloudflare.

Anonymous Speech won't even host porn sites, lol. 

Open mailbox is just an email provider. Why does it matter which one they use? Would you think it's less of a scam if they used @opair.com emails? Really? You're that naive? Or gmail? I mean what difference does it make?

I do agree, their goal is made more difficult by not offering escrow, but there is no point in continuing to push that point. They have already said they are considering it.

The people who invested but are now crying scam because there is no escrow are obviously unstable. It was clearly stated before the ICO started.. I chose to invest anyways.

I can understand why the devs want privacy. People can be crazy, especially if they think you cost them money or owe them something. But which do the devs want more, privacy or 700 btc to start a business that can easily make them millionaires? It's starting to seem like they can't have both and it has nothing to do with the FUD spreaders.

This.

ICO Update - Day Five

Members: 219
Number of investments: 105
Amount invested: 61.32 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

No one will join this ico until you disclose your team info, it is a very fishy project now, and you have received 61 btc, that's enough for you because you wrote so long article to lure investors.

Last night(12 hours ago) I saw these TXs, but now still there, so everyone gets warned. 

This is a really very interesting ICO. People have put a lot of trust to this ICO even though there is NO Escrow involved. It is an overwhelming response from the investors putting their trust to these 2 people who have provided just Linkedin profiles as their proof of legitimacy of their skills and trustworthiness.

Goodluck to those who have invested.

Some people take risks, some don't. You can be whoever you choose, but it can't be called a scam until they don't deliver. If that happens, then we can start calling it a scam, but wait. Would it really be a scam? We've been asked to put in money that will never come back with the hopes that we will make some money. I can afford to take a small risk with that. I'd rather lose a few dollars trying something new than be crying later when it's worth $650 a coin. Not saying Opair would be, but that's a decision I made a few years after being offered Bitcoin for less than a penny and turning it down.

If you don't want to invest there are plenty of other projects you can invest in. All of which have their FUD. All of which have someone calling it a scam. All of which have the potential for you to lose everything you put into it.

Don't invest more than you can afford to lose. If that's nothing, so be it.

[YIz]

Menace.bit, we believe that, at least, 700 BTC would need to put together. From then on, all collected serve to optimize, accelerate, hire more people, marketing, legal costs, go to more events and create a division that works as an incubator in the ecosystem we aim to create in Opair. We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. If we raised less, we will have to study the situation when we have the final amount to set realistic goals that can be achieved with that amount. The initial proposal presented requires many months of work to finish it all. Even the idea is to provide lifetime support to Opair, thanks to the organization we want to build.

Regards

That's going to be a difficult goal without escrow being offered. I brought up a few questions about privacy. Do you care to address them?

After doing some checking..

Such as the domain name registrant being

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

Using cloud flare and open mailbox.

These are typically things used by Nefarious people/groups.. Not sure why such privacy is needed..

Cloudflare is used by just about everyone. The rest of your comment loses all merit when you include that. If you're smart enough to be able to research then you should be smart enough to know that Cloudflare is a valuable tool to administrators of all kinds. Regardless of the type of business.

I'm sure Reddit, Cisco, and Nasdaq are malicious just because they use Cloudflare.

Anonymous Speech won't even host porn sites, lol. 

Open mailbox is just an email provider. Why does it matter which one they use? Would you think it's less of a scam if they used @opair.com emails? Really? You're that naive? Or gmail? I mean what difference does it make?

I do agree, their goal is made more difficult by not offering escrow, but there is no point in continuing to push that point. They have already said they are considering it.

The people who invested but are now crying scam because there is no escrow are obviously unstable. It was clearly stated before the ICO started.. I chose to invest anyways.

I can understand why the devs want privacy. People can be crazy, especially if they think you cost them money or owe them something. But which do the devs want more, privacy or 700 btc to start a business that can easily make them millionaires? It's starting to seem like they can't have both and it has nothing to do with the FUD spreaders.

This.

ICO Update - Day Five

Members: 219
Number of investments: 105
Amount invested: 61.32 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

No one will join this ico until you disclose your team info, it is a very fishy project now, and you have received 61 btc, that's enough for you because you wrote so long article to lure investors.

Last night(12 hours ago) I saw these TXs, but now still there, so everyone gets warned. 

This is a really very interesting ICO. People have put a lot of trust to this ICO even though there is NO Escrow involved. It is an overwhelming response from the investors putting their trust to these 2 people who have provided just Linkedin profiles as their proof of legitimacy of their skills and trustworthiness.

Goodluck to those who have invested.

Some people take risks, some don't. You can be whoever you choose, but it can't be called a scam until they don't deliver. If that happens, then we can start calling it a scam, but wait. Would it really be a scam? We've been asked to put in money that will never come back with the hopes that we will make some money. I can afford to take a small risk with that. I'd rather lose a few dollars trying something new than be crying later when it's worth $650 a coin. Not saying Opair would be, but that's a decision I made a few years after being offered Bitcoin for less than a penny and turning it down.

If you don't want to invest there are plenty of other projects you can invest in. All of which have their FUD. All of which have someone calling it a scam. All of which have the potential for you to lose everything you put into it.

Don't invest more than you can afford to lose. If that's nothing, so be it.

I strongly disagree with the first part of your comment and fully understand the second one.

With all due respect, Reddit, Cisco and NASDAQ are all legitimate and transparent entities, and their teams are known to the public, and they are legal registered companies. they are using CloudFlare purely for DDoS protection.
The second part of the comment is a different story. I had the opportunity to buy bitcoins at ridiculously low prices compared to what they are worth today as well, but I decided not to because I didn't believe it's going to hold significant value in the future. I still regret it and this is why I am always seeking project to invest it, hoping to get lucky one day. And yeah, don't invest more than you can afford to lose, well said Perry.

[arallmuus]

With all due respect, Reddit, Cisco and NASDAQ are all legitimate and transparent entities, and their teams are known to the public, and they are legal registered companies. they are using CloudFlare purely for DDoS protection.

Everything is 'legal' until proven otherwise