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Author Topic: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform  (Read 127601 times)
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September 05, 2016, 10:14:08 PM
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@Wasserman, how about you get part of the escrow when you show a beta of debit card and ocaml functionality? How soon can Frank and Hao release a beta?

I still have serious doubts that you are going to try to deliver anything at all. It looks like you are just staying on the sidelines hoping people will put blame and pressure on Sebastian to give you easy money.


ICO bounty needs to be paid from Wassermans current funds, not the escrow. Escrow people signed up to buy a coin, not to pay to advertise a scam. Bounty is 100% Wassermans responsibility, and he can easily afford it now.
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It's good to read you. For our part we agree with this and have intentions to reach an agreement. We expect more information from you about the content of the agreement.

Regards

I guess all agreed that realising ICO founds according to milestones i see only those one:
This is not 700 BTC you wish but what we can do of it ?

Term 2 – Development

-   Extensive White paper and wiki about our new programming language on Github.
-   New wallet, focus on easy to use for everyone and mass market adoption.
-   Alias System.
-   Decentralized debit cards.
-   Light client
-   Implement trusted system and market core .
-   Support for assets-contracts via colored coins.
-   Smart Contracts. New programming language based on OCaml.
-   Private Chains.
-   Decentralized voting, messaging & mailing system.
-   Crowdfunding platform.
-   At this point, we want to focus on the speed and scalability of our platform.

Can you tell us what can you develop having 150 BTC and payed after reach milestones?
And 1st phase ICO what you can deliver with 65 BTC ?

PS: Opair without "debit cards" would be new junk coin that's my 2  cents.

Never saw a ICO like this... really a mess... I believe in this project from the beginning now all trust is gone.
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September 05, 2016, 10:21:33 PM
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Hello everyone, I received alot of pm's regarding the current case. Suggestions and around 10 or so refund requests. No forwarding request yet.

Well, the situation is at a stop now. Wasserman99 seems to not wanting to deliver something worthy of the coins he already holds. Which is alot of coins.

In any case we need a solution. How about making a timeframe of two weeks from the day we have an agreement settled. This should be sufficient time for investors to check for the status of the coin and make a decision.

The problem is that if wasserman99 would release the coins now to ico 1 investors then I either would have to refund all ico 2 users or forward all coins of users that do want a refund. The latter is no real choice. The reason is that they could hedge against the price of the coin otherwise. Ask for a refund with the coin price drops or ask for the coins when they rise in value.

If wasserman99 sends coins before that timeframe to ico 1 then a refund to ico 2 has to happen to not make it possible to force a forwarding.
If coins are sent to ico 1 and 2 then still ico 2 bitcoins has to be refunded for the same reason.

What happens with the coins of investors that do not make a choice? Well, forwarding might be the way to go if investors do not care about their investment in all this time. Refunding might be another but in any case, no choice can be offered then anymore. Since investors did invest and have a choice to choose to divest then the Libra would be in favor to forward the remaining coins. Because they invested before.

I will not give a suggestion on what investors should do. Everything investors of phase 2 can do is check everything that was said.

Please inform me if there is a weakness in my suggestion.

Hi,

It's good to read you. For our part we agree with this and have intentions to reach an agreement. We expect more information from you about the content of the agreement.

Regards

Damn Wass, I thought this project was going to be one of those "needle in a haystack" type projects. So many shitty and scammy ICO's, I really thought this project was going to shake up the cryptocurrency space. I guessed wrong homie! What do you have to do to get your shit together? A lot of us "investors" need answers soon.



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September 06, 2016, 01:44:03 AM
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Ok, it seems wasserman99 agreed and I have read the following posts on here. The only more details about what I wrote might be that in these 2 weeks the wallet should be released. Without coins probably not of much use but still it might be possible for wasserman99 to show that there is something that exists in some way. So releasing the wallet only can help wasserman99 so less investors would like to get their coins back.

Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.

I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.

Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.

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September 06, 2016, 02:07:33 AM
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Where is frank, what does he think of the current situation?
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September 06, 2016, 02:24:43 AM
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Wasserman, what are your next steps? Whitepaper, github commits, and paying bounties within the next 2 weeks?
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September 06, 2016, 03:21:01 AM
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Ok, it seems wasserman99 agreed and I have read the following posts on here. The only more details about what I wrote might be that in these 2 weeks the wallet should be released. Without coins probably not of much use but still it might be possible for wasserman99 to show that there is something that exists in some way. So releasing the wallet only can help wasserman99 so less investors would like to get their coins back.

Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.

I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.

Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.

wasserman99 , I think We nearly reach an agrement for this stage. you should give your plan to get good result .
We are waiting for next information for OPAIR luanching
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September 06, 2016, 03:32:06 AM
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Ok, it seems wasserman99 agreed and I have read the following posts on here. The only more details about what I wrote might be that in these 2 weeks the wallet should be released. Without coins probably not of much use but still it might be possible for wasserman99 to show that there is something that exists in some way. So releasing the wallet only can help wasserman99 so less investors would like to get their coins back.

Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.

I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.

Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.

Maybe you should also verify if the two Devs are real and existing and behind this Coin, or everything is just plain out scam from the start!
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September 06, 2016, 03:50:44 AM
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Where is frank, what does he think of the current situation?
There is no Frank, this is a One man show. Someone trying to fraud as much btc he can.

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September 06, 2016, 04:33:06 AM
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Where is frank, what does he think of the current situation?
There is no Frank, this is a One man show. Someone trying to fraud as much btc he can.

 Grin  LOL, he will delete your comment, let's see.
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September 06, 2016, 06:28:12 AM
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So how would a decentralized debit card work? Will the stores get paid in the country's currency? Even with eMunie, the store would have to accept eMunie.
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September 06, 2016, 06:59:55 AM
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Where is frank, what does he think of the current situation?
There is no Frank, this is a One man show. Someone trying to fraud as much btc he can.

 Grin  LOL, he will delete your comment, let's see.

No, wasserman prefer to delete postings with facts.

"Fud" or something, which could be counted fud, he leave on the side, but facts, which proof him wrong or shows the misery of this project, he erases of course.

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September 06, 2016, 07:25:55 AM
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i invested twice , so when started phase 2???

edit : fuc..  , i send from exchange , a lot of problems gonna come , going to try a refund

I have a good idea. You can abandon your exchange account and send login and password to SJ. He will see the according withdrawals. At least in my case they are the last, he will see at once. Worse if somebody made a lot of withdrawals and SJ has to look through a long list.
What do you say, SJ? Will that do?
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September 06, 2016, 08:14:40 AM
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I was told we should just send the funds to the address given by opair website, and they forward it to escrow. 84+ coins total were forwarded.

If send from a wallet it's not that hard to prove. Just sign a message to address deposited with send this with deposit address given by opair to SJ and he can check it and refund directly.

O.o really dump solution because at end of ICO scammer could never send those coins to escrow i would never do that.
Escrow should be payed directly or never only direct payment to escrow have sense.

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September 06, 2016, 08:20:50 AM
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I think SJ and wasserman99 have come to an agreement lets just wait for two weeks and see what wasserman99 can deliver and and if all goes well you gonna have the coins and a beta wallet and if otherwise phase 2 guys can always refund from SJ and phase 1 guys is done for.
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September 06, 2016, 08:26:48 AM
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I was told we should just send the funds to the address given by opair website, and they forward it to escrow. 84+ coins total were forwarded.

If send from a wallet it's not that hard to prove. Just sign a message to address deposited with send this with deposit address given by opair to SJ and he can check it and refund directly.

O.o really dump solution because at end of ICO scammer could never send those coins to escrow i would never do that.
Escrow should be payed directly or never only direct payment to escrow have sense.

Funny part is wasserman offered 5% to escrow of phase 1 and phase 2, so 5% of 150 btc is 7.5 btc.

SJ asked to also send phase 1 coins to escrow and asked for a less % of the whole ICO investment, wasserman declined.

Just a heads up on how he is going to spend the rest of the funds.
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September 06, 2016, 08:32:59 AM
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Ok guys, my time is precious:

I think, now for everybody it is clear, scam or not, the opair team is not really promising success.

At the moment, everything it told from my side. The party is over for me now, the investors can clean up now.

I will unwatch this thread, if someone has a question or need support, PM me.

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September 06, 2016, 10:13:07 AM
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Why has not paid the Opair signatures company?
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September 06, 2016, 11:01:38 AM
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I Cant login to the ico site anymore even Clef doesnt work anymore anyone else have this problem ?
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I Cant login to the ico site anymore even Clef doesnt work anymore anyone else have this problem ?

I have just logged in this Opair normally . no problem
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