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Author Topic: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform  (Read 127693 times)
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September 05, 2016, 02:24:26 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2016, 03:10:22 PM by wasserman99
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Xbladex,

We know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics in the first place. And from there we continue to advance.

Our plan continues as before:

1) Qt wallet for the distribution.
2) In a month try the first beta with some functions. The first function in which work is in the use of the decentralized debit cards as we said before.
3) When we have a stable product, we will launch our platform.

With the funds, we need to pay the bounties, marketing expenses (pre-ico), legal consultations (we organize ourselves in some sort of structure. We look for the one that best suits the needs of the project.) and to hire programmers & pay salaries.

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September 05, 2016, 03:10:42 PM
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Why it is not possible to pay the bounties with the BTC from the first stage?
Why you don't use up the first stage first?
I really don't know, what you mean with "marketing expenses"? The 59 $ for the wordpress theme?
Legal consultations, really is there someone or does the fictional CEO contacted a fictional lawyer?
What you mean by "we organize ourselves in some sort of structure"?
I think with the total amount of money it is useless to hire someone, because just not enough. So, if you can't find the resources to program it by your own, refund the people.

Why you all the time just ask for money and don't proof the "Fudders" wrong by delivering as you promised?



Truely, some sort of structure means there is no structural planning or don't know how to organize things/work or anything. But, I don't about the other things about this project.
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September 05, 2016, 03:16:23 PM
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Why it is not possible to pay the bounties with the BTC from the first stage?
Why you don't use up the first stage first?
I really don't know, what you mean with "marketing expenses"? The 59 $ for the wordpress theme?
Legal consultations, really is there someone or does the fictional CEO contacted a fictional lawyer?
What you mean by "we organize ourselves in some sort of structure"?
I think with the total amount of money it is useless to hire someone, because just not enough. So, if you can't find the resources to program it by your own, refund the people.

Why you all the time just ask for money and don't proof the "Fudders" wrong by delivering as you promised?



Truely, some sort of structure means there is no structural planning or don't know how to organize things/work or anything. But, I don't about the other things about this project.

From the first message on the thread:

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Frank, our founder, proposed to create a gGmbH -it is similar to a tax-exempt LLC but in Germany- to manage the funds gathered at the ICO, which we think it will be a wise move and it will offer more transparency to our project and the security for to the XPO holders to know that we will not act irrationally or for our own profit. Therefore after discussing this matter and given that Frank lives in Germany we decided that the idea of creating a gGmbH or another type of organization will bring reassurance and confidence to our investors.   

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September 05, 2016, 03:17:53 PM
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Why it is not possible to pay the bounties with the BTC from the first stage?
Why you don't use up the first stage first?
I really don't know, what you mean with "marketing expenses"? The 59 $ for the wordpress theme?
Legal consultations, really is there someone or does the fictional CEO contacted a fictional lawyer?
What you mean by "we organize ourselves in some sort of structure"?
I think with the total amount of money it is useless to hire someone, because just not enough. So, if you can't find the resources to program it by your own, refund the people.

Why you all the time just ask for money and don't proof the "Fudders" wrong by delivering as you promised?



Truely, some sort of structure means there is no structural planning or don't know how to organize things/work or anything. But, I don't about the other things about this project.

From the first message on the thread:

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Frank, our founder, proposed to create a gGmbH -it is similar to a tax-exempt LLC but in Germany- to manage the funds gathered at the ICO, which we think it will be a wise move and it will offer more transparency to our project and the security for to the XPO holders to know that we will not act irrationally or for our own profit. Therefore after discussing this matter and given that Frank lives in Germany we decided that the idea of creating a gGmbH or another type of organization will bring reassurance and confidence to our investors.   

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Just pay the dam signature/translation bounties so that it can move forward. GROW UP. This isn't a game, people money are locked because of you.
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September 05, 2016, 03:36:00 PM
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when i can got my coin? The wallet hadn't take out?
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September 05, 2016, 04:05:36 PM
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Why it is not possible to pay the bounties with the BTC from the first stage?
Why you don't use up the first stage first?
I really don't know, what you mean with "marketing expenses"? The 59 $ for the wordpress theme?
Legal consultations, really is there someone or does the fictional CEO contacted a fictional lawyer?
What you mean by "we organize ourselves in some sort of structure"?
I think with the total amount of money it is useless to hire someone, because just not enough. So, if you can't find the resources to program it by your own, refund the people.

Why you all the time just ask for money and don't proof the "Fudders" wrong by delivering as you promised?



Truely, some sort of structure means there is no structural planning or don't know how to organize things/work or anything. But, I don't about the other things about this project.

From the first message on the thread:

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Frank, our founder, proposed to create a gGmbH -it is similar to a tax-exempt LLC but in Germany- to manage the funds gathered at the ICO, which we think it will be a wise move and it will offer more transparency to our project and the security for to the XPO holders to know that we will not act irrationally or for our own profit. Therefore after discussing this matter and given that Frank lives in Germany we decided that the idea of creating a gGmbH or another type of organization will bring reassurance and confidence to our investors.   

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Did you create it yet?
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September 05, 2016, 04:07:50 PM
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wasserman99 when and under what conditions you're going to pay signature bounties? And these payments will be from ico 1 or ico 2 funds? An if from ico 2 why that?
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September 05, 2016, 04:08:48 PM
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Lol, "decentralized" debit-cards. Good luck with that  Roll Eyes
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September 05, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
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wasserman99 when and under what conditions you're going to pay signature bounties? And these payments will be from ico 1 or ico 2 funds? An if from ico 2 why that?

if it is from ICO2 then SebastianJU should pay the signature bounties to make sure that people receive their hardwork money.

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September 05, 2016, 04:19:55 PM
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wasserman99 when and under what conditions you're going to pay signature bounties? And these payments will be from ico 1 or ico 2 funds? An if from ico 2 why that?

if it is from ICO2 then SebastianJU should pay the signature bounties to make sure that people receive their hardwork money.


People from phase 2 can still request a refund. Funds from phase 2 have to be reserved, therefore paying bounties out of it is not an option unless the option for refunds is removed. The "dev" got more than enough from phase 1 to pay the bounties.
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September 05, 2016, 04:21:25 PM
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wasserman99 when and under what conditions you're going to pay signature bounties? And these payments will be from ico 1 or ico 2 funds? An if from ico 2 why that?

if it is from ICO2 then SebastianJU should pay the signature bounties to make sure that people receive their hardwork money.


People from phase 2 can still request a refund. Funds from phase 2 have to be reserved, therefore paying bounties out of it is not an option unless the option for refunds is removed. The "dev" got more than enough from phase 1 to pay the bounties.

Dev is just a idiot and a fucking scammer. Most likely he is now searching for a dev to copy the code and to make a coin.

@Dev, you can hire me for 5 BTC, I will copy you your coin Cheesy
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September 05, 2016, 04:39:35 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2016, 08:03:42 PM by iudica
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Looks very bad for ICO... Instead of anwsering questions wasserman is just deleting it.

I can't see a will to provide a coin.

Why it is not possible to pay the bounties with the BTC from the first stage?
Why you don't use up the first stage first?
I really don't know, what you mean with "marketing expenses"? The 59 $ for the wordpress theme?
Legal consultations, really is there someone or does the fictional CEO contacted a fictional lawyer?
What you mean by "we organize ourselves in some sort of structure"?
I think with the total amount of money it is useless to hire someone, because just not enough. So, if you can't find the resources to program it by your own, refund the people.

Why you all the time just ask for money and don't proof the "Fudders" wrong by delivering as you promised?
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September 05, 2016, 05:25:26 PM
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Bounties should be paid from ICO phase 1, there is no reason for the hold up.

The only reason ICO raised coins is because of the signature.

There are no sites linking to opair.co besides the forum: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/opair.co
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September 05, 2016, 05:52:14 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2016, 06:03:49 PM by Dank Frank
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And where is your good friend (shill account) kooke all of the sudden.

wasserman99 doesn't show up here anymore as much as he did, and kooke decided the same?
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September 05, 2016, 06:34:56 PM
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i invested twice , so when started phase 2???

edit : fuc..  , i send from exchange , a lot of problems gonna come , going to try a refund
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September 05, 2016, 07:39:04 PM
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i invested twice , so when started phase 2???

edit : fuc..  , i send from exchange , a lot of problems gonna come , going to try a refund


We have divided the ICO in two phases. The first one goes from July 26th to August 2nd and the second one from August 3rd to August 26th.
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September 05, 2016, 08:00:39 PM
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i invested twice , so when started phase 2???

edit : fuc..  , i send from exchange , a lot of problems gonna come , going to try a refund

But if you invested by sending BTC to direct your acc opened for you wasserman holds your founds not escrow.
There was 13BTC which were send to SJ after 2nd phase ICO and those coins will go back to Wasserman if you wanted real escrow then
you should send coins to escrow adress with rules that mean in way you can provide your identity (sign message, or 4dig bittalk ID)
So you are in deep shit now and all your money have wasserman ^^ in case of any refund you are in deep shit
even wasserman want give you refund you can't prove your identity.

Request / 26th September / 2022 APP-06-22-4587
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September 05, 2016, 08:25:39 PM
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i invested twice , so when started phase 2???

edit : fuc..  , i send from exchange , a lot of problems gonna come , going to try a refund

But if you invested by sending BTC to direct your acc opened for you wasserman holds your founds not escrow.
There was 13BTC which were send to SJ after 2nd phase ICO and those coins will go back to Wasserman if you wanted real escrow then
you should send coins to escrow adress with rules that mean in way you can provide your identity (sign message, or 4dig bittalk ID)
So you are in deep shit now and all your money have wasserman ^^ in case of any refund you are in deep shit
even wasserman want give you refund you can't prove your identity.

I was told we should just send the funds to the address given by opair website, and they forward it to escrow. 84+ coins total were forwarded.

If send from a wallet it's not that hard to prove. Just sign a message to address deposited with send this with deposit address given by opair to SJ and he can check it and refund directly.
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September 05, 2016, 10:11:04 PM
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Hello everyone, I received alot of pm's regarding the current case. Suggestions and around 10 or so refund requests. No forwarding request yet.

Well, the situation is at a stop now. Wasserman99 seems to not wanting to deliver something worthy of the coins he already holds. Which is alot of coins.

In any case we need a solution. How about making a timeframe of two weeks from the day we have an agreement settled. This should be sufficient time for investors to check for the status of the coin and make a decision.

The problem is that if wasserman99 would release the coins now to ico 1 investors then I either would have to refund all ico 2 users or forward all coins of users that do want a refund. The latter is no real choice. The reason is that they could hedge against the price of the coin otherwise. Ask for a refund with the coin price drops or ask for the coins when they rise in value.

If wasserman99 sends coins before that timeframe to ico 1 then a refund to ico 2 has to happen to not make it possible to force a forwarding.
If coins are sent to ico 1 and 2 then still ico 2 bitcoins has to be refunded for the same reason.

What happens with the coins of investors that do not make a choice? Well, forwarding might be the way to go if investors do not care about their investment in all this time. Refunding might be another but in any case, no choice can be offered then anymore. Since investors did invest and have a choice to choose to divest then the Libra would be in favor to forward the remaining coins. Because they invested before.

I will not give a suggestion on what investors should do. Everything investors of phase 2 can do is check everything that was said.

Please inform me if there is a weakness in my suggestion.

Dear sebastianJu, please reconsider carefully when releasing the bounty

in other project i got scammed by people doing bounty, and what they care only their payments, not caring of any moral obligation
now i have to weep, and think of how to recover, even begging for donation from others

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September 05, 2016, 10:14:08 PM
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@Wasserman, how about you get part of the escrow when you show a beta of debit card and ocaml functionality? How soon can Frank and Hao release a beta?

I still have serious doubts that you are going to try to deliver anything at all. It looks like you are just staying on the sidelines hoping people will put blame and pressure on Sebastian to give you easy money.


ICO bounty needs to be paid from Wassermans current funds, not the escrow. Escrow people signed up to buy a coin, not to pay to advertise a scam. Bounty is 100% Wassermans responsibility, and he can easily afford it now.
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