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August 11, 2016, 06:48:04 PM
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CoinWarz just added ETC to their mining profitability list:  https://twitter.com/CoinWarz/status/763801046997016576  :-)

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August 11, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
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Surf this wave, another small down and after that come the moon

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August 11, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
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https://www.patreon.com/posts/foundups-epic-6518587?login=johannes_veiti%40hotmail.de

Mr Trout talks of destroying Eth.  I don't want to destroy anything.  I want ethereum classic to be in competition with Eth.  
If Eth dies it will be by its own hand.  People must have choice.  People get to choose between the corporate chain and the peoples chain.

Moreover, the language on the video on the above website is not suitable for children.  Maybe like this website at times but i work hard with the help of others to keep it so anyone can speak without fear of ridicule.  Keeping language levels down gives others confidence.
However, i know emotions can be strong at times.  

I want Ethereum Classic to be taught in schools.  That is where we must capture our entrepreneurs. We need to have high standards, we need to be inclusive, as the kids will be our next bunch of coders and developers. I do not want to drive anyone away, we must be inclusive, even to eth_fans. People what do you all think?

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August 11, 2016, 07:23:33 PM
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Declaration of independence...

I am very proud to present "The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence" https://ethereumclassic.github.io/assets/ETC_Declaration_of_Independence.pdf

who wrote this and signed it " the community"?

I have no inkling. Cheesy

Im all for both chains but I am not on bored for faceless wannabe's speaking for classic. That is even worse than having vitalik.

We do need a transparent community, not a slack channel with trolls.


Let's assume the Declaration was written by Satoshi, the "faceless wannabe" behind Bitcoin's whitepaper.   Cool


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August 11, 2016, 07:44:46 PM
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I support the Declaration of Independence 100%  I support the dev team 100%

https://ethereumclassic.github.io/assets/ETC_Declaration_of_Independence.pdf

Long Live Classic Ethereum




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August 11, 2016, 07:51:08 PM
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Good man iCEBREAKER,   Wink  Love the artwork  Cheesy

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August 11, 2016, 07:54:22 PM
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Declaration of independence...

I am very proud to present "The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence" https://ethereumclassic.github.io/assets/ETC_Declaration_of_Independence.pdf

who wrote this and signed it " the community"?

I have no inkling. Cheesy

Im all for both chains but I am not on bored for faceless wannabe's speaking for classic. That is even worse than having vitalik.

We do need a transparent community, not a slack channel with trolls.


Let's assume the Declaration was written by Satoshi, the "faceless wannabe" behind Bitcoin's whitepaper.   Cool

old argument for every scam coin with anon dev.

get with the times
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August 11, 2016, 08:17:56 PM
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Declaration of independence...

I am very proud to present "The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence" https://ethereumclassic.github.io/assets/ETC_Declaration_of_Independence.pdf

who wrote this and signed it " the community"?

I have no inkling. Cheesy

Im all for both chains but I am not on bored for faceless wannabe's speaking for classic. That is even worse than having vitalik.

We do need a transparent community, not a slack channel with trolls.


Let's assume the Declaration was written by Satoshi, the "faceless wannabe" behind Bitcoin's whitepaper.   Cool

old argument for every scam coin with anon dev.

get with the times

No, YOU get with the times.  I'm already here bro.

History did not stop with Bitcoin.  Anon devs are still making great contributions to crypto.

EG Cryptonote ("Saberhagen")
EG RingCT ("Shen")
EG MimbleWimble ("Voldemort")

And real names are still making scams.

EG Dash (Duffield)
EG Paycoin (Garza)
EG Cryptsy (Vern)

Don't make any more stupid arguments against me, or I will demolish them also.   Wink


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August 11, 2016, 08:22:59 PM
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iCEBREAKER  by name icebreaker by trade...  always good for getting light banter going at a gathering   Wink

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August 11, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
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For those of you too shy to ask
you do not have to lose face

Wallets here:  Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum)
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0


Mining pools that are know good payers  https://etc.suprnova.cc/ or  http://epool.io/#/ or  https://etc.nanopool.org/
other pools are available, (please help others and tell us the good from the bad)

Hashrate is up, so are mining profits https://www.whattomine.com/

Come aboard, All miners are welcome


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Declaration of independence...

I am very proud to present "The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence"
https://ethereumclassic.github.io/assets/ETC_Declaration_of_Independence.pdf


I am speechless  Cheesy  Well done people!  Please, please read this.

Thank you Longsnowsm

Ethereum Classic 4 step plan : All in progress.

1) Establish a clear social contract that the etc members mostly agree to
2) Decide on a roadmap
3) Choose a governance model to execute that roadmap
4) Raise funds for its execution


With this in mind, it may be good for people to see this video by Charles Hoskinson recorded 3 weeks ago
before his involvment leading Ethereum Classic. Here talks on governance in crypto   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zP4Chk8g7A

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August 11, 2016, 10:17:15 PM
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Chandler Guo: "CHBTC (largest ETH exchange in China) intends to donate 50% of ETC transaction fees to development and Dapps for ETC"

https://twitter.com/ChandlerGuo/status/763559251130191872

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4x5w3j/chandler_guo_chbtc_largest_eth_exchange_in_china/

This dude is a funny one.

24 July: "I am Chandler Guo, a 51% attack on Ethereum Classic (ETC) is coming with my 98G hashrate"

https://twitter.com/ChandlerGuo/status/757191880740184064

31 July: "Today i will turn on my 120GH for the ETC chain to protect ETC"

https://twitter.com/ChandlerGuo/status/759733579702075393


Lol..
This guy has the Trump syndrome!   Changes opinion daily Cheesy

It takes a bigger man to see and say when he is wrong,  Join us frostminer, we will make you welcome.
Can i ask... are you welcomed by the ethereum crowd?  Do they make you feel proud?  Or do they make you feel like an outsider wandering the cyrpto forums looking for salvation?


I currently hold 1.0 ETH and 1.0 ETC (just to have their progress easily visible)

Im not part of any of these crowds. But i can say this..

* My impression of the  average age of the participants in each group is way way higher in the ETH camp.
* I would never even considering joining the ETC camp after seeing how they have been acting these last weeks.
* That "meetup video" was as chaotic and messy as this hyper moderated thread. Another sure no-go.
* Kids in this thread and the ETH thread are for sure the biggest threat to ETC.  You will ruin it.


Im guessing we'd see more than 200 pages here if @bitpop were'nt making it the most "mutable" thread on bct.
Also .... 90% chance this post will be deleted.


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I currently hold 1.0 ETH and 1.0 ETC (just to have their progress easily visible)
So you are in both camps?

* My impression of the average age of the participants in each group is way way higher in the ETH camp.
Higher?  you mean older?  So in your world ETC is for kids, ETH is for adults?  I am 50 years old but feel 30.  If you are younger than me i consider you a kid.  Wink  At what age do you consider someone a kid?

* I would never even considering joining the ETC camp after seeing how they have been acting these last weeks.
If we had not acted as we did the coin would have died!  We acted as we did, the coin is still here.

* That "meetup video" was as chaotic and messy as this hyper moderated thread. Another sure no-go.
Classic was born from chaos.  You know, the Altcoin with the highest trading volume this week.

* Kids in this thread and the ETH thread are for sure the biggest threat to ETC.  You will ruin it.
Nobody has the right to say who uses money or not.  When i was born, family and friends gave me money.  They would put it in my crib. Tradition. When i was 5 years old i went to buy sweets with my Mum.  If i had used Ethereum (if it had been invented) instead of fiat, would i have ruined it? So who else will ruin it?  Women?  Black people? Jews? Old People? Muslims? Russians? Trump Supporters? The Kurds? The Chinese? Who would not be welcome on your WORLDcoin?

Im guessing we'd see more than 200 pages here if @bitpop were'nt making it the most "mutable" thread on bct.
Also .... 90% chance this post will be deleted.

bitpop is a very clever and respected man.  
You can have your own self moderated thread you know.  But how many pages would it have? Two?  
I would come and post on it.  You would have my support, I would interact with you.  
So prove us all wrong!
Who would you delete on your thread?
greenuser for challenging you frostminer?

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Why is ETC rising and ETH dropping? Any recent development?


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August 12, 2016, 12:08:09 AM
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Etc is the future. Ethf will dump hard in next days.

Just wait

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We are coming for you vitalik and your ethf cuckolds

Do you realize that saying that it sounds like John Isner telling Novak Djokovith "I'm coming for you"... It's altogether another level, you see. A much, much, MUCH higher level. Oh gosh...
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Christian Reitwießner Announces New Release of Solidity



Christian Reitwießner just announced the latest release of Solidity over on reddit, and is answering comments there.  You may recall I made a little post with lots of red letters a few pages back about him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4x42o8/solidity_version_036_released/?st=irr1ewnv&sh=54efad63

Here's a comment that I just left for him:

"Chris - Please respond to this Bitcointalk post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15875878#msg15875878 . The DAO hacks, both black hat and white hat, took detailed knowledge of Solidity. Do you really claim that you or and every member of your development team had zero involvement with all DAO hacks? YOU MUST ADDRESS THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM. Please do it now."

Maybe you've got a comment you would also like to leave directly for Chris there, and express your opinion on how his Solidity language has impacted your personal finances.  Particularly if you have any ETC due back to you from the DAO "Robin Hood Group"...

Another reddit of interest, just out in the past half hour:  


Follow Up Statement on the ETC Salvaged from attackDAOs


https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4xasg3/follow_up_statement_on_the_etc_salvaged_from/?st=irr1dbga&sh=41e88fc6

"Following the events of the last 24 hours we want to keep the community updated:

After having received repeated legal threats from various individuals holding significant stakes in The DAO (still continuing), we sought legal advice to help us pursue our goal without endangering ourselves or the salvaged funds. We found support and legal advice from Bity SA, a trusted Swiss entity. It has agreed to protect, secure and later distribute the funds equitably under an independent Swiss legal structure. The number 1 goal has always been to ensure that the salvaged funds are distributed in a fair, transparent and just manner. This remains unchanged.

When the salvaged ETC were able to be recovered, signals were received from the greater community to distribute these ETC in ETH, to continue to support Ethereum projects. Also, a large portion of the community does not have the technical ability to safely work both with ETC and ETH in the same address; therefore, returning part of salvaged ETC in ETH seemed to be the safest for all the parties involved. The first actions from the Swiss structure took place Tuesday August 9th and it preferred to not announce the movement of ETC in advance to avoid speculators taking advantage of the situation. Part of these funds are still on exchanges and the rest of the funds are held in the following accounts:

ETC Multisig: 0x1ac729d2db43103faf213cb9371d6b42ea7a830f ETH Multisig: 0xd3b0b4fc31ee1f8570c75c19caa93cc1557e538f BTC Multisig: 3JYwxuaHGKt8rZ9NbTEcyYRXtqkfN5Lz5Y

It has now become clear that this approach will introduce many unnecessary complications and wouldn’t bring certainty to all DAO Token Holders that they would be treated equally and with fairness. The objective evolved from the most desirable outcome (distributing ETH and ETC) to the most efficient and comprehensible distribution solution, that all funds will be made available in ETC to the DAO Token Holders. To achieve this, all exchanges will be asked to return the funds to the Multisig wallets.

We would like to thank the community for their trust and ask for their patience as the responsibility of returning this value to the DAO Token Holders is not an easy task. We are under a lot of pressure, but throughout this process we will continue to do the best that we can to protect the interests of the DAO Token Holders.

All the legal and technical work of the community members and the companies involved, has always been on a volunteer and pro-bono basis. Following our first statement, members of the community have expressed their keenness to donate crypto assets in recognition for the efforts deployed to salvage the ETC from the attackDAOs and to distribute it back to the community. Accordingly, it will be possible to donate when retrieving the funds. We will communicate next with a detailed plan for the distribution."

MAL SPEAKING AGAIN: SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG - DOESN'T THIS MEAN 7.8M ETH (9.5% OF TOTAL SUPPLY) ARE ABOUT TO BE IRREVERSIBLY CONVERTED TO ETC?  What's the total spendable coins on each blockchain if this goes through?
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August 12, 2016, 01:03:55 AM
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I currently hold 1.0 ETH and 1.0 ETC (just to have their progress easily visible)
So you are in both camps?

* My impression of the average age of the participants in each group is way way higher in the ETH camp.
Higher?  you mean older?  So in your world ETC is for kids, ETH is for adults?  I am 50 years old but feel 30.  If you are younger than me i consider you a kid.  Wink  At what age do you consider someone a kid?

* I would never even considering joining the ETC camp after seeing how they have been acting these last weeks.
If we had not acted as we did the coin would have died!  We acted as we did, the coin is still here.

* That "meetup video" was as chaotic and messy as this hyper moderated thread. Another sure no-go.
Classic was born from chaos.  You know, the Altcoin with the highest trading volume this week.

* Kids in this thread and the ETH thread are for sure the biggest threat to ETC.  You will ruin it.
Nobody has the right to say who uses money or not.  When i was born, family and friends gave me money.  They would put it in my crib. Tradition. When i was 5 years old i went to buy sweets with my Mum.  If i had used Ethereum (if it had been invented) instead of fiat, would i have ruined it? So who else will ruin it?  Women?  Black people? Jews? Old People? Muslims? Russians? Trump Supporters? The Kurds? The Chinese? Who would not be welcome on your WORLDcoin?

Im guessing we'd see more than 200 pages here if @bitpop were'nt making it the most "mutable" thread on bct.
Also .... 90% chance this post will be deleted.

bitpop is a very clever and respected man.  
You can have your own self moderated thread you know.  But how many pages would it have? Two?  
I would come and post on it.  You would have my support, I would interact with you.  
So prove us all wrong!
Who would you delete on your thread?
greenuser for challenging you frostminer?


Just wow......

No, im a miner. I mine the most profitable coin and sell it.
Right now thats neither ETC nor ETH.


I wouldnt start a moderated thread, so that solves that question.
If one cant take critique or hard questions, internet is not the right place to be.


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Frosty is a genuine guy 🍦

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So all DAO token holders get their share in ETC back from the white hats?

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