[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[greenuser]

Eth has spit on the first tenet of blockchains, immutability. Therefore, it is proven eth has no future.

Just like they say on their webpage. https://www.ethereum.org/

Quote:

Build unstoppable applications

Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed
without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.
.  
(The Foundation reserve the right to interfere with the blockchain as we see fit, if you don't like it, fork off to Classical!)

end quote;

[Longsnowsm]

Eth has spit on the first tenet of blockchains, immutability. Therefore, it is proven eth has no future.

Just like they say on their webpage. https://www.ethereum.org/

Quote:

Build unstoppable applications

Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed
without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.
.  
(The Foundation reserve the right to interfere with the blockchain as we see fit, if you don't like it, fork off to Classical!)

end quote;

Even comments made about censorship have come forward, if they feel there is a consensus to censor they will... We have seen how they get a consensus... The foundation decides it and they do it.  Looks like centralized control to me.  Taking the stance that they will fork to suite the demands of investors.  The Federal Reserve would love ETH.  Fraud, manipulation, back door deals, good old boy crony elitism and if we don't like it we will change the rules as we go. 

[Longsnowsm]

@ocminer I have been watching the graphs like you suggested and hung in there and the hash rates have bee more consistent, but the graphs continue to show a giant 0 hash dead spot in the middle of them.  Both for the pool and for my hash.  Not sure, but it looks like the graphs may be messed up.

On that note it is interesting that many of the ETC pools for the last day or so have all been under ddos attacks.  I find that quite interesting. 

[ocminer]

@ocminer I have been watching the graphs like you suggested and hung in there and the hash rates have bee more consistent, but the graphs continue to show a giant 0 hash dead spot in the middle of them.  Both for the pool and for my hash.  Not sure, but it looks like the graphs may be messed up.

On that note it is interesting that many of the ETC pools for the last day or so have all been under ddos attacks.  I find that quite interesting. 

Yes, of course if you see a zero spot in there then there was a problem.

Make sure you set the "other" node as a backup.. So when you're hashing on etc-eu.suprnova.cc make sure you have etc-us.suprnova.cc set as a backup node.

I currently see that 90% of the miners use one node - which isn't good, as when there's an attack on exactly that node, 90% is down.

Those attacks started two days ago - I didn't have had any attack before on the ETC nodes but i've already moved to premium ddos protected plans now with all nodes for ETC, so they won't be a problem anymore.

[Longsnowsm]

@ocminer I have been watching the graphs like you suggested and hung in there and the hash rates have bee more consistent, but the graphs continue to show a giant 0 hash dead spot in the middle of them.  Both for the pool and for my hash.  Not sure, but it looks like the graphs may be messed up.

On that note it is interesting that many of the ETC pools for the last day or so have all been under ddos attacks.  I find that quite interesting. 

Yes, of course if you see a zero spot in there then there was a problem.

Make sure you set the "other" node as a backup.. So when you're hashing on etc-eu.suprnova.cc make sure you have etc-us.suprnova.cc set as a backup node.

I currently see that 90% of the miners use one node - which isn't good, as when there's an attack on exactly that node, 90% is down.

Those attacks started two days ago - I didn't have had any attack before on the ETC nodes but i've already moved to premium ddos protected plans now with all nodes for ETC, so they won't be a problem anymore.

The thing about the graphs is that I look at the transaction history and I see that I was paid through the night on regular intervals like I would expect, so it doesn't seem like it was an issue with the pool or hashing.  I could be wrong, but it looks like the graph may be wrong or I wouldn't have seen the payments during the period.  Also the dead spot on the graphs seems to stay in place and does not move off of the chart. 

Just strange, but good point on configuring my backup.  I will make sure I have my miners updated with the backup server.

[greenuser]

Seen this? https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/ethereum-chain-of-liars-thieves-b04aaa0762cb#.5m4augozv

World Crypto Network - The Bitcoin Group #105 (Go from 11m:11s)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYFqin6jCkY

The team talk about the Whale Panda link i posted "ethereum-chain-of-liars-thieves"
                                                            
Theo Goodman  "It should be called the Stalin Hood Group, not the Robin Hood Group"

Tone Vay's   "Ethereum is useless"        
                                    "the devs will get arrested".                                                                                  
                                                 "Ethereum is a testnet for Ethereum Classic"

Jeffery Jones   "Ethereum is bad news, people are going to jail"

[ginmac]

Before you send them to jail, remember who was at Ethereum genesis.

[kamidela]

This video need more views.. Chanlder must be seen fellas... share the video around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI

[frostminer]

This video need more views.. Chanlder must be seen fellas... share the video around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI

Oh comon.. Guo is a flipp flopper, not something you want to use as "boasting".


His worst nightmare is POS...... took him a cpl of days before he realized ETH will become POS and ETC wont.


Guo will flippflopp to the most profitable POW.


(which wont be neither ETH nor ETC in a short time... sadly they are both slowly dying)

[bitfish]

This video need more views.. Chanlder must be seen fellas... share the video around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI

[raphma]

This video need more views.. Chanlder must be seen fellas... share the video around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI

lol, when i saw people sharing it in twitter, i thought it already had at least 10k views

[Longsnowsm]

Star Wars theme, ETC Declaration of Independence...

https://steemit.com/ethereum-classic/@prophetdaniel/star-wars-style-ethereum-classic-declaration-of-independence

[greenuser]

Ethereum have made a total mockery of crypto, I hope the public stick with fiat. The banking system is less corrupt than the ethereum foundation. At least in the world of fiat they send the Nick Leesons of this world to jail.   Long live fiat i say!

I am writing to my MP and local Education Authority to see if i can help get a Public Information Campaign off the ground to warn people of the Dangers of Crypto.  This whole chain off events is turning me from a campaigner in favour of crypto into a campaigner against crypto.

This technology must never go mainstream.  It should stay a fringe subculture. Would you let the EF look after your Granny's money? (your future inheritance?)

This is the future of the EFs smart contracts system....
World Exclusive: Assassination Politics - First Interview with Jim Bell (early cypherpunk) Since his released From Jail, Jim is out and writing smart contracts.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0YfUGKlBIQ

[roselee]

Ethereum have made a total mockery of crypto, I hope the public stick with fiat. The banking system is less corrupt than the ethereum foundation.  At least in the world of fiat they send the Nick Leesons of this world to jail.   Long live fiat i say!

I am writing to my MP and local Education Authority to see if i can help get a Public Information Campaign off the ground to warn people of the Dangers of Crypto.  This whole chain off events is turning me from a campaigner in favour of crypto into a campaigner against crypto.

This technology must never go mainstream.  It should stay a fringe subculture. Would you let the EF look after your Granny's money? (your future inheritance?)

hi green
what made you so angry?
you will see all the ones that did a crime in this will get there punishment. law is slow. all around the world.
 this is what i think:
 ethereums vitalik and co got tempted by the banksters. ( zug)it was clear that they will try  to take over and establihs there own chain to take over the system or at least discredit the system.
ripple didnt do it. ethereum had a much to high marketcap for a system that has nothing productiv running. and all the big companies jumping in. microsoft ibm and so on. why didnt they jump in with bitcoin? know why becouse bitcoin you cant manipulate via a young naive genius boy.
now there is ETC. that changes the game again.

you say fiat is better. i say fiat enslaves us. all of us around the globe. fiat is the worst you can wish for your offsprings.

just one thing. fiat does haircuts for biz for banks but not for people. fiat could print money and save all the kids dieing around the world.

green you are retired or soon will be you worked all your life. you gave all your lifetime and time is such a high value. time is what they want from us. time and consuming. we are just sheeps for them . or war fuel.
now lays there a good last time of life in front of you? i guess no. you have to think about extra money to earn id guess?
and thats not fair.

crypto can change that for the next generation
like chandler said its a revolution

i hope you can calm down and see the bigger picture
vitalik is not crypto

vitalik is a mislead boy

[greenuser]

I must admit, i do like the idea of Immutable Assasination Smart Contracts  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0YfUGKlBIQ
Jim Bell says he wants to use Ethereum,  How long until we see Crowd Funded Immutable Assasination Smart Contracts?   

[usukan]

Ethereum have made a total mockery of crypto, I hope the public stick with fiat. The banking system is less corrupt than the ethereum foundation. At least in the world of fiat they send the Nick Leesons of this world to jail.   Long live fiat i say!

I am writing to my MP and local Education Authority to see if i can help get a Public Information Campaign off the ground to warn people of the Dangers of Crypto.  This whole chain off events is turning me from a campaigner in favour of crypto into a campaigner against crypto.

This technology must never go mainstream.  It should stay a fringe subculture. Would you let the EF look after your Granny's money? (your future inheritance?)

This is the future of the EFs smart contracts system....
World Exclusive: Assassination Politics - First Interview with Jim Bell (early cypherpunk) Since his released From Jail, Jim is out and writing smart contracts.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0YfUGKlBIQ

you've lost the plot sorry

[ShooterXD]

Só much fud! Lol come on guys, stop with flame war

[tylerderden]

Yeah folks, let's roll it on back now...

[marty123]

ETH constant attacking on ETC is a benefit for ETC and ETC will grow, even this thread is 5x more popular than the ETH thread, 30 days and it has 130,000 views+ :-)

[Signaturan]

ETH constant attacking on ETC is a benefit for ETC and ETC will grow, even this thread is 5x more popular than the ETH thread, 30 days and it has 130,000 views+ :-)

What is the evidence that ETH is attacking the ETC? I noticed the price of ETC is quite stable at the present times.