[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[Longsnowsm]

The network hash rate on etcstats is falling like a ROCK!  Not sure what is going on, and it is taking a long time on the commits right now. Anyone else seeing this?

[greenuser]

The network hash rate on etcstats is falling like a ROCK!  Not sure what is going on, and it is taking a long time on the commits right now. Anyone else seeing this?

Looks ok my end.  Pools being DDoSd, oh well, i have to sleep.  Keep hashing, if the hashrate falls so will the diff.  You may catch that block quicker than you expected.  

[Longsnowsm]

That's right, you are automatically mining to your main geth address as shown in mist.  Mist is just a GUI for geth.  You can control and do all the wallet functions in command prompt with code and without using mist.

If you want to find out your address point a new command prompt window at geth and type in

Code:

geth attach

 
enter

Code:

eth.coinbase

This should look like this “C:/>eth.coinbase”. If geth is in the C drive folder
Press enter and you should see your address appear


For Balance

Code:

geth attach

enter

Code:

eth.getBalance(eth.coinbase)

Press enter again and you should see your Balance appear


More easy to follow info look here https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/how-to-do-an-ethereum-transaction-check-your-balance/

Happy coding!

@greenuser VERY COOL!  Thank you!  It reports back that my etherbase address shown in Mist is my address.  So I just have to wait to hit a block!  Thanks again for the info and link.  

[Longsnowsm]

The network hash rate on etcstats is falling like a ROCK!  Not sure what is going on, and it is taking a long time on the commits right now. Anyone else seeing this?

Looks ok my end.  Pools being DDoSd, oh well, i have to sleep.  Keep hashing, if the hashrate falls so will the diff.  You may catch that block quicker than you expected.  

Looks like the rate has bounced back...  @greenuser get some rest, this will all be waiting for you tomorrow! 

[Mastercon]

The network hash rate on etcstats is falling like a ROCK!  Not sure what is going on, and it is taking a long time on the commits right now. Anyone else seeing this?

Something is wrong with the pools. They might be DDosed.

So it is  better to mine the ETC solo. That is much safer option at present.

[usukan]

The network hash rate on etcstats is falling like a ROCK!  Not sure what is going on, and it is taking a long time on the commits right now. Anyone else seeing this?

Something is wrong with the pools. They might be DDosed.

So it is  better to mine the ETC solo. That is much safer option at present.

I think its far better to mine XMR (monero) for now - its organic flow to best return

you'll be able to buy all the ETC you want at 1/5 to 1/10th the current price over the next few weeks when WHG and the DAO infiltrator guy gets access to coins to sell - far cheaper than mining

[greenuser]

I think its far better to mine XMR (monero) for now - its organic flow to best return

you'll be able to buy all the ETC you want at 1/5 to 1/10th the current price over the next few weeks when WHG and the DAO infiltrator guy gets access to coins to sell - far cheaper than mining

Do XMR (monero) help people to get coding?  
The cool thing with ETC is you can take advantage of the low cost of "gas" for you to power your projects.  
Also, sCOOL_CLASSic program helps people to code.  I am learning for free and sharing my knowledge for free.  
I'm a 50 year old housewife so if i can do it, anyone can.  How COOL is that?
What is the value add in monero (what do they do different)? or is it just about the price?

We will soon all be writing smart contracts.  The more people know, the better we can check each others work and have understanding.
Ethereum Classic is a revolution, you don't have to be just a passenger in ETC.  Anyone can get involved,  It's not just all about making devs rich. It's about making people rich in knowledge.  Anyone can develop here. Put a value on that?

[usukan]

The network hash rate on etcstats is falling like a ROCK!  Not sure what is going on, and it is taking a long time on the commits right now. Anyone else seeing this?

Something is wrong with the pools. They might be DDosed.

So it is  better to mine the ETC solo. That is much safer option at present.

I think its far better to mine XMR (monero) for now - its organic flow to best return

you'll be able to buy all the ETC you want at 1/5 to 1/10th the current price over the next few weeks when WHG and the DAO infiltrator guy gets access to coins to sell - far cheaper than mining

Do XMR (monero) help people to get coding?  
The cool thing with ETC is you can take advantage of the low cost of "gas" for you to power your projects.  
Also, sCOOL_CLASSic program helps people to code.  I am learning for free and sharing my knowledge for free.  
I'm a 50 year old housewife so if i can do it, anyone can.  How COOL is that?
What is the value add in monero (what do they do different)? or is it just about the price?

We will soon all be writing smart contracts.  The more people know, the better we can check each others work and have understanding.
Ethereum Classic is a revolution, you don't have to be just a passenger in ETC.  Anyone can get involved,  It's not just all about making devs rich.  It's about making people rich in knowledge.  Anyone can develop here. Put a value on that?

Haha - I think you missed the point - ETC price will be swimming in the sea of death shortly

Don't mine and don't buy - of course buy at the bottom and then continue on with your building activities.

The "value" since it escapes your mind is simply "profit" from mining - which you have espoused many times before as being important to you. Learn by all means - but don't forget to pay your gas bill.

[greenuser]

Haha - I think you missed the point - ETC price will be swimming in the sea of death shortly

Don't mine and don't buy - of course buy at the bottom and then continue on with your building activities.

The "value" since it escapes your mind is simply "profit" from mining - which you have espoused many times before as being important to you. Learn by all means - but don't forget to pay your gas bill.

No i think you missed the point,  we mine to make the network secure.  Network Security matters more than price.  It is the platform for teaching and learning.   I was mining ETC before Poloniex listed it.  I will still mine it if they delist it.

Are you just another ETH investor trying to stop people mining and learning smart contracts?

You will not dumb us down!  Our network is strong and more decenteralised then ever!

[usukan]

Haha - I think you missed the point - ETC price will be swimming in the sea of death shortly

Don't mine and don't buy - of course buy at the bottom and then continue on with your building activities.

The "value" since it escapes your mind is simply "profit" from mining - which you have espoused many times before as being important to you. Learn by all means - but don't forget to pay your gas bill.

No i think you missed the point,  we mine to make the network secure.  Network Security matters more than price.  It is the platform for teaching and learning.
Are you just another ETH investor trying to stop people mining and learning smart contracts?

You will not dumb us down!  Our network is strong and more decenteralised then ever!

You're a crack up and I don't know why I waste time replying to you.

For a start - I am equally invested in both coins - ETC and ETH - I am not on ANY side

You Greeny are leading people astray

I am trying to stop people losing money based on your warped advice.

http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/08/24/ethereum-classic-price-technical-analysis-new-low-etc/

Realise this......... Barry and a few of his associates already own most of ETC.  After the crash coming in the next few weeks - they will own even more. This is the master plan.  ETC is FAR MORE CENTRALISED than ETH in terms of ownership.  I don't really care about this - live and let live. ETC will be pumped to hell after the crash.  SELL NOW - BUY BOTTOM - and sell after the pump - in 1-2 months.

Its up to you what you want to do - but don't try and lead others to their slaughter.

and if it comes up - I'm older than even you...................

Things are are a bit more complex than you appear to acknowledge - please think on what I have put here if you want to benefit.



was this you Greeny? Why are you still here?

Quote from: greenuser on August 22, 2016, 05:29:36 PM
Ethereum have made a total mockery of crypto, I hope the public stick with fiat. The banking system is less corrupt than the ethereum foundation. At least in the world of fiat they send the Nick Leesons of this world to jail.   Long live fiat i say!

I am writing to my MP and local Education Authority to see if i can help get a Public Information Campaign off the ground to warn people of the Dangers of Crypto.  This whole chain off events is turning me from a campaigner in favour of crypto into a campaigner against crypto.

This technology must never go mainstream.  It should stay a fringe subculture. Would you let the EF look after your Granny's money? (your future inheritance?)

This is the future of the EFs smart contracts system....
World Exclusive: Assassination Politics - First Interview with Jim Bell (early cypherpunk) Since his released From Jail, Jim is out and writing smart contracts.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0YfUGKlBIQ


you've lost the plot sorry

[greenuser]

It may surprise you but I am a member of the UK Labour Party.  UK government are about to make a big push into crypto.  Last month I met with John McDonnell (shadow chancellor of the exchequer) in Liskeard, Cornwall on the “New Economics Forum” and we talked on these issues.  We do that sort of thing here, Keep checking the world news.  It's happening.  End of October.

[vectisitch]

what is the minimum hash needed to make solo worth it?

[usukan]

It may surprise you but I am a member of the UK Labour Party.  UK government are about to make a big push into crypto.  Last month I met with John McDonnell (shadow chancellor of the exchequer) in Liskeard, Cornwall on the “New Economics Forum” and we talked on these issues.  We do that sort of thing here, Keep checking the world news.  It's happening.  End of October.

Seriously - who gives damn. The UK is now a very insignificant part of the world stage and shrinking fast.    Oh! - and what you are a "member" of the party, the Labour Party. Good for you for paying the membership fee.

You are wasting everyone's time here - best you go and do something else.

[greenuser]

what is the minimum hash needed to make solo worth it?

~40MH/s will net you a block ~every 2.4 days.   one block = ~5 etc

A how to calc this is on page 191.  I will repost it

[greenuser]

Note for Miners.

To work out how often you should hit a block with your hashpower,
get the difficulty and hashrate and price from here https://etherhub.io/home
Get the blocktime/interval from here http://fork.ethstats.net/
and feed the info into this calculator here  https://etherscan.io/ether-mining-calculator  


Note for Traders

Only invest what you can afford to loose.
Don't trade on emotion, only on mathematical theory / systems.
Do your "due diligence” research, research, research. (Is the commodity experimental?)
Spread your investment over a number of coins to “hedge your bets”
Think of going “short” to protect you from potential losses.
Do not trade with a loaded gun and a bottle of spirit in the room.
Crypto is high risk, have you tried gold or silver training? forex even?


Users

Any feedback on these dapps are welcome
http://dapps.ethercasts.com/

[Majormax]

It may surprise you but I am a member of the UK Labour Party.  UK government are about to make a big push into crypto.  Last month I met with John McDonnell (shadow chancellor of the exchequer) in Liskeard, Cornwall on the “New Economics Forum” and we talked on these issues.  We do that sort of thing here, Keep checking the world news.  It's happening.  End of October.

That is the right way forward. Crypto is not mainstream yet, and governments are right to be wary (just pragmatism). However UK Labour is quite alternative in their outlook, so I guess they are into a number of maverick projects.

[greenuser]

It may surprise you but I am a member of the UK Labour Party.  UK government are about to make a big push into crypto.  Last month I met with John McDonnell (shadow chancellor of the exchequer) in Liskeard, Cornwall on the “New Economics Forum” and we talked on these issues.  We do that sort of thing here, Keep checking the world news.  It's happening.  End of October.

That is the right way forward. Crypto is not mainstream yet, and governments are right to be wary (just pragmatism). However UK Labour is quite alternative in their outlook, so I guess they are into a number of maverick projects.

The Labour Party are divided like Ethereum and Classic.  Some want to be in Europe and want Blair ideology.  The other side lead by Corbyn wants decentralised bottom up politics. In “Prime Ministers Questions”, he reads emails from the public, directly at the Prime Mister.  Never been done before.
Exciting times here!  Pound down, so people are looking for something different.

Quote  "The UKGC’s new LCCP will come into effect on 31 October 2016. Its reference to digital currencies will boost awareness and increased adoption for cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin across Great Britain". End quote

REF: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/uk-gambling-regulator-views-digital-currencies-as-acceptable-by-licensees/

sCOOL_CLASSic may make it onto the Education syllabus in UK schools!

[Longsnowsm]

It may surprise you but I am a member of the UK Labour Party.  UK government are about to make a big push into crypto.  Last month I met with John McDonnell (shadow chancellor of the exchequer) in Liskeard, Cornwall on the “New Economics Forum” and we talked on these issues.  We do that sort of thing here, Keep checking the world news.  It's happening.  End of October.

That is the right way forward. Crypto is not mainstream yet, and governments are right to be wary (just pragmatism). However UK Labour is quite alternative in their outlook, so I guess they are into a number of maverick projects.

I hope the UK does move away from the central banks into no-debt based money.  That would be a huge step to financial freedom.  Money issued with no debt.

[Longsnowsm]

Note for Miners.

To work out how often you should hit a block with your hashpower,
get the difficulty and hashrate and price from here https://etherhub.io/home
Get the blocktime/interval from here http://fork.ethstats.net/
and feed the info into this calculator here  https://etherscan.io/ether-mining-calculator  

Unfortunately there is this element of luck in solo mining.  The calculator gives you an estimate of how often you "should" get lucky.  However don't be surprised if like me you hash away and don't hit a block.  Based on the calculator I should have hit several blocks by now.  So I will wait patiently for a little while longer before moving back to the pools.  Very discouraging. 

[Gaglam]

omg it's really going down now...
I can't even mine anymore at this price