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August 25, 2016, 06:12:46 PM
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@Gaglam i still trust the Ethereum Foundation over the Banking System.  When Greece failed as a country, the government with the banks, took 70% of everyones bank balance and gave it to Germany.  Then they imposed a maximum of 60euros per day withdraw limit.  The Ethereum Foundation have never done anything like that.

It will get adopted quick enough when the negative interest rates yield no economic growth.  When the value of fiat stars to fail.  When banks start to charge to make a deposit.  That's when the adoption will kick in.  

When the banks start to fail.  And they will.

Moreover: Ethereum Classic is not even in Beta. We are not ready for mass adoption. The Foundation is not ready either, they proved that with the Dao. This is the early stages of something big and it needs to be right. First, all the ETC has to move into the hands of the people that believe in it.  That is what is playing out right now in this price war.

Yes, that negative interest rate monster is coming... And it will sweep the financial system everywhere faster than anyone expects.  People with their head in the sand think these fees and charges only affect the banks... Imagine their shock when those fees go directly to the "retail" consumer of banking services.  I imagine they will start off trying to say only accounts of certain size or certain types will have fees at first, but before long it will be across the board. 

Most people have NO IDEA this is about to happen to them.  I frankly am concerned that we won't have the infrastructure in place to be able to dodge this hit as it comes. 
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August 25, 2016, 06:19:57 PM
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who dev ethereum classic, because early dev ethereum
does not recognize the existence ethereum classic ETC
after dev ethreum make statement about does not recognize the existence ETC
price ETC down and rally down
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@Gaglam i still trust the Ethereum Foundation over the Banking System.  When Greece failed as a country, the government with the banks, took 70% of everyones bank balance and gave it to Germany.  Then they imposed a maximum of 60euros per day withdraw limit.  The Ethereum Foundation have never done anything like that.

It will get adopted quick enough when the negative interest rates yield no economic growth.  When the value of fiat stars to fail.  When banks start to charge to make a deposit.  That's when the adoption will kick in.  

When the banks start to fail.  And they will.

Moreover: Ethereum Classic is not even in Beta. We are not ready for mass adoption. The Foundation is not ready either, they proved that with the Dao. This is the early stages of something big and it needs to be right. First, all the ETC has to move into the hands of the people that believe in it.  That is what is playing out right now in this price war.

Yes, that negative interest rate monster is coming... And it will sweep the financial system everywhere faster than anyone expects.  People with their head in the sand think these fees and charges only affect the banks... Imagine their shock when those fees go directly to the "retail" consumer of banking services.  I imagine they will start off trying to say only accounts of certain size or certain types will have fees at first, but before long it will be across the board.  

Most people have NO IDEA this is about to happen to them.  I frankly am concerned that we won't have the infrastructure in place to be able to dodge this hit as it comes.  

I totally agree, but the infrastructure is already here.  We just have to learn how to use it effectively and that will always be ongoing.  When it happens we will hit the ground running.  Did you watch all of Keiser Report Episode 957 from Tuesday.  Max relay goes to town on
negative interest rates with Plucky in the first half  https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/356809-episode-max-keiser-957/

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August 25, 2016, 07:21:09 PM
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who dev ethereum classic, because early dev ethereum
does not recognize the existence ethereum classic ETC
after dev ethreum make statement about does not recognize the existence ETC
price ETC down and rally down

Follow the progress of the 12 person Dev Team & The Bomb Disposal Squad here: https://trello.com/etcdev
We have 100+ volunteer coders https://github.com/ethereumproject/volunteer/tree/master/Key   
700 on slack https://ethereumclassic.slack.com/messages/development/
And World support from many miners like Chandler Guo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI

Anyone can become a Dev!  Can you code?

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August 25, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
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Anyone seen our current market depth?   Shocked

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August 25, 2016, 07:48:32 PM
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Anyone seen our current market depth?   Shocked

Yeah i saw it. This is a good thing, that people are still prepaered to buy. But that will not pump th price for now, because  buy orders are posted to low.. But they provide security. Soo good thing.
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August 25, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
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Anyone seen our current market depth?   Shocked

Yeah i saw it. This is a good thing, that people are still prepaered to buy. But that will not pump th price for now, because  buy orders are posted to low.. But they provide security. Soo good thing.

+1  Wink  this is not over yet people.  Not by far

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August 25, 2016, 08:17:22 PM
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Great news... If this will be done before 2. of september.. Soo yeah a lot ofyou will ask wtf is that? I thing Green will explain that to you.
https://github.com/BitySA/whetcwithdraw/commit/2ec6aa04325cd8f5a70578d1d19879d8b46b9389
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August 25, 2016, 08:17:57 PM
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At some point when we stop thinking in terms of fiat we will have finally made inroads to where we want to be.
....


I belive that Fiat money era is comming slowly to end. And it will need new reset soon then they will mix it with gold/silver again.
If they would add BTC to it it would skyrocket crypto but guys in charge have 60+ years so not with this generation.
Fiat money (low interst rates) are ruining pensions founds right now people are getting 1% while governments are printing like crazy,
bank with free money can make deals on market so it is easy for them making deals with high leverage.
They can borrow at 0% any amount of cash and here crypto comes here we don't have free meal earn coins and you will have your own,
in most of cases you can't change rules like goverments bailouts, investmets all for free fiat money

I home that crypto will go strong soon and solve some financial problems.
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August 25, 2016, 08:28:54 PM
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So I just downloaded the Mist wallet. Will this work for ETC?

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August 25, 2016, 08:30:33 PM
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New etc pool  http://etc.akasha-pool.eu/

Please add to Pool list Fee is 0.5%  PROP

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August 25, 2016, 08:39:19 PM
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So I just downloaded the Mist wallet. Will this work for ETC?

Which Mist wallet do you have?


For those of you too shy to ask  Wink  
you do not have to lose face

Wallets here:  
Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum) by whatisgravity
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0
Get new "etc only" geth node here https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases/tag/6aaf5f3

Light Client-Side Wallet by elaine
So no need to download the blockchain https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#generate-wallet
Send with Replay Protection on the light wallet https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#replay-protection

Ethereum Classic Wallet Google Chrome Extension
forked by DontPanicBurns, another trusted dev of the ETC community  
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/classicetherwallet-cx/opggclcfcbfbchcienjdaohghcamjfhf

Mining pools that are know good payers  https://etc.suprnova.cc/ or  http://epool.io/#/ or  https://etc.nanopool.org/
other pools are available, (please help others and tell us the good from the bad)
 
Solo Mining: How-to for Windows  on bottom of page 191 of this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.3800

NEW Ethereum Classic Cloud Mining Service at https://ethasher.com/
Ask all the Cloud Mining questions you want here: https://ethereumclassictalk.org/index.php?topic=11.0

Got a scrypt ASIC and want to be paid in ETC?  https://prohashing.com/

Network Hashrate is ~ 630 GH/s http://fork.ethstats.net/
Hashrate Distribution http://etherx.com/pools/
Mining Profit Calculator  https://www.whattomine.com/
Official Block Explorer  http://blocks.elaineou.com/home
Block Explorer under Development (please give feedback) EtherX.com

New Ethereum Classic Website   https://ethereumclassic.github.io/
Now with links to the New ETHEREUM CLASSIC FORUM, just follow “SOCIAL LINK” on the Ethereum Classic Website


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Want to learn how to code smart contracts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jI1TuEaTro

Come aboard, All miners are Welcome!
Please watch this video & try to begin to understand how you can help scale this project.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8oeiOeDq_Nc

Follow the progress of the 12 person Dev Team & The Bomb Disposal Squad here: https://trello.com/etcdev
We have 100+ volunteer coders https://github.com/ethereumproject/volunteer/tree/master/Key    
770 on slack https://ethereumclassic.slack.com/messages/development/
And World support from many miners like Chandler Guo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI
Keiser Report on RT tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmctYSF1-w&feature=youtu.be&t=1071
New Keiser Report on Ethereum out today!

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August 25, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
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and which projects will be on ETC network? i didn't see any announcement. if will be so this coin is dead and ETH will won this war!
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and which projects will be on ETC network? i didn't see any announcement. if will be so this coin is dead and ETH will won this war!

So also would like to know what are the projects based on ETC?
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August 25, 2016, 09:23:33 PM
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@Gaglam i still trust the Ethereum Foundation over the Banking System.  When Greece failed as a country, the government with the banks, took 70% of everyones bank balance and gave it to Germany.  Then they imposed a maximum of 60euros per day withdraw limit.  The Ethereum Foundation have never done anything like that.

It will get adopted quick enough when the negative interest rates yield no economic growth.  When the value of fiat stars to fail.  When banks start to charge to make a deposit.  That's when the adoption will kick in.  

When the banks start to fail.  And they will.

Moreover: Ethereum Classic is not even in Beta. We are not ready for mass adoption. The Foundation is not ready either, they proved that with the Dao. This is the early stages of something big and it needs to be right. First, all the ETC has to move into the hands of the people that believe in it.  That is what is playing out right now in this price war.

Yes, that negative interest rate monster is coming... And it will sweep the financial system everywhere faster than anyone expects.  People with their head in the sand think these fees and charges only affect the banks... Imagine their shock when those fees go directly to the "retail" consumer of banking services.  I imagine they will start off trying to say only accounts of certain size or certain types will have fees at first, but before long it will be across the board.  

Most people have NO IDEA this is about to happen to them.  I frankly am concerned that we won't have the infrastructure in place to be able to dodge this hit as it comes.  

I totally agree, but the infrastructure is already here.  We just have to learn how to use it effectively and that will always be ongoing.  When it happens we will hit the ground running.  Did you watch all of Keiser Report Episode 957 from Tuesday.  Max relay goes to town on
negative interest rates with Plucky in the first half  https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/356809-episode-max-keiser-957/

I saw the first part, haven't seen the second part yet.  On the infrastructure front I am thinking about the scale things need to grow in order to handle the volume of transactions.  Today BTC is a good example of "not gonna work" when trying to do real time retail or conventional transactions.  The time it takes and the processing is just too slow.  If suddenly everyone started flooding to crypto we would be in a world of hurt.

Which brings us back to the recommendations for the changes to ETC.  Staying strictly a POW coin/token will limit the scale and processing capabilities of the network.  Which is why I hope that the recommendations for a hybrid and even a POC type transaction processing makes more sense.  We will need to scale and in a big way!  Grin
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August 25, 2016, 09:58:01 PM
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and which projects will be on ETC network? i didn't see any announcement. if will be so this coin is dead and ETH will won this war!

So also would like to know what are the projects based on ETC?

Any dapp that ran on Ethereum will run on Classic,  have a play with these, http://dapps.ethercasts.com/

More on the way but we don't want to rush things and EF it all up.  You cannot undo mistakes here.  Immutable, Secure, Classic  Wink

Phone wallets are due early October.

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The article is about right however: who the hell is "project lead Arvicco"?  
This project is lead buy us all.  Even Charles claims he is only a supporter and not a spokesman.
Another self proclaimed Satoshi?  Wink

Thats the media for you.

I see two press articles now stating “arvicco” is leading the ETC Project .  So who is “arvicco”?
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/ethereum-classic-community-navigates-a-distinct-path-to-the-future-cm667781
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808

Arvicco/Bitnovosti is nobody, possesses no magical powers and claims no authority over Ethereum Classic

I just spoke to him on Slack.  He was diven the job of making a press release.  His words are of the words of the 770 slack comunity.

The Media have artistic licence it seems

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August 25, 2016, 10:28:30 PM
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Reakt is coming.
Lets see etc big pump really soon

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August 25, 2016, 11:20:37 PM
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and which projects will be on ETC network? i didn't see any announcement. if will be so this coin is dead and ETH will won this war!

So also would like to know what are the projects based on ETC?

Any dapp that ran on Ethereum will run on Classic,  have a play with these, http://dapps.ethercasts.com/

More on the way but we don't want to rush things and EF it all up.  You cannot undo mistakes here.  Immutable, Secure, Classic  Wink

Phone wallets are due early October.
but why them need to go on another chain? ETH is perfect for all this project. And most good project like Augur, Digixdao and others refused to be on ETC chain......

Didn't see any future for this coin....

I saw only one purpose is just to sell stollen eth that now is (etc) from DAO and gain  big  profit to hacker...

also if will be some mistakes with their projects ETH devs can support them and made any kind of fork: soft fork,hardfork and others....
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August 26, 2016, 01:10:59 AM
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and which projects will be on ETC network? i didn't see any announcement. if will be so this coin is dead and ETH will won this war!

Here are you go to places for info on what is going on in DEV:
Follow the progress of the 12 person Dev Team & The Bomb Disposal Squad here: https://trello.com/etcdev
We have 100+ volunteer coders https://github.com/ethereumproject/volunteer/tree/master/Key   
770 on slack https://ethereumclassic.slack.com/messages/development/
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