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Author Topic: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts  (Read 820547 times)
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October 25, 2016, 06:37:51 AM
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Hard fork success etherium classic is now just another mutable shitcoin well done

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/599kmf/etc_community_successfully_implemented_gasreprice/


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October 25, 2016, 06:39:48 AM
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Why price keep down Angry
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October 25, 2016, 08:28:24 AM
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sorry, but i can't read a lot of pages to finde an answer.

will etc hard fork like ETH because of the "spam problems".
if yes: when?
if no: why?

thanks for the answer

Yes,

at block 2 500 000 (in about 5 hours)

Polo market seems a bit negative on things?
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October 25, 2016, 08:29:22 AM
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etc fork??? L O L
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October 25, 2016, 11:18:01 AM
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But ETC suprnova says, "Pool down as we're trying to resync to the ETC network"

    Pool Hash: 0.00 MH/s
    Pool Workers: 0
    Net Hash: n/a MH/s


You can try https://ethc.coin-miners.info/ is running just fine

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October 25, 2016, 12:36:14 PM
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Why price keep down Angry

Centralized mutable shitcoin

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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-classic-hardforks-successfully/

Nonetheless, ETC developers seem to have reached an overall consensus on both forks, but, how such consensus was reached is not clear as despite the apparent controversy, there have been no attempts to gauge the overall opinion of ETC users, with no vote or poll. Instead, it seems the decision was solely made by ETC developers.

This isn’t the first time ETC developers have made a significant decision in a fairly centralized manner. They have apparently agreed to remove Ethereum’s difficulty bomb, fundamentally changing the network’s rules and roadmap, without any public discussion, community guided decision making or ETC holder’s vote.

ETC’s governance method for development decisions, therefore, appears to be centralized. As such, in combination with a centrally decided technical violation of the immutability principles, ETC’s promises of immutability and decentralization have not been reflected  in practice.
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October 25, 2016, 12:50:27 PM
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All coins including bitcoin already have done hard forks by tech problems.

ETH is the onlyone that did it to cancel a legit negotiation in a smart contract to benefit their friends on a bad business.

Only a moron dont notice the difference.

Smart contracts still immutables on ETC.
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October 25, 2016, 01:05:55 PM
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All coins including bitcoin already have done hard forks by tech problems.

ETH is the onlyone that did it to cancel a legit negotiation in a smart contract to benefit their friends on a bad business.

Only a moron dont notice the difference.

Smart contracts still immutables on ETC.


lol you should tell cornell they hired a moron

https://twitter.com/el33th4xor

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October 25, 2016, 02:42:24 PM
Last edit: October 25, 2016, 04:08:54 PM by EmilioMann
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All coins including bitcoin already have done hard forks by tech problems.

ETH is the onlyone that did it to cancel a legit negotiation in a smart contract to benefit their friends on a bad business.

Only a moron dont notice the difference.

Smart contracts still immutables on ETC.


lol you should tell cornell they hired a moron

https://twitter.com/el33th4xor

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Yep, he is...
...or he knows nothing about crypto and about the history of btc, or he is just an eth investor without scruples wanting to manipulate his sheep





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October 25, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
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or he knows nothing about crypto and about the history of btc


Wink nice trolling there, where's your resume on bitcoin?  Cheesy




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    We introduced the first metrics for measuring decentralization and placing the blocksize debate on a scientific footing
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    I played a behind the scenes role in introducing set difference techniques that led to xthin blocks and other similar tricks.
    I have also spoken to regulators to convince them of the value of a light touch when it comes to this nascent area.
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October 25, 2016, 03:54:21 PM
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LOL this is all despair for ETH not be replaced by ETC? I'm sure, are spending a lot of resources to hold the price of the ETC, but caution, it can all be in vain.
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October 25, 2016, 04:15:56 PM
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or he knows nothing about crypto and about the history of btc


Wink nice trolling there, where's your resume on bitcoin?  Cheesy



History of Hardforks in Bitcoin

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8th August 2010 - 92 billion BTC into existence

On 8th August 2010 bitcoin developer Jeff Garzik wrote what could be mildly described as the biggest understatement since Apollo 13 told Houston: “We’ve had a problem here.”. “The ‘value out’ in this block is quite strange,” he wrote on bitcointalk.org, referring to a block that had somehow contained 92 billion BTC, which is precisely 91,979,000,000 more bitcoin than is ever supposed to exist. CVE-2010-5139 (CVE meaning ‘common vulnerability and exposures’) was frighteningly simple and exploited to the point of farce by an unknown attacker. In technical language, the bug is known as a number overflow error.So instead of the system counting up 98, 99, 100, 101, for example, it broke at 99 and went to zero (or -100) instead of 100. In layman’s terms, someone found a way to flood the code and create a ridiculously large amount of bitcoin in the process.

The fix was the bitcoin equivalent of dying in a video game and restarting from the last save point. The community simply hit ‘undo’, jumping back to the point in the blockchain before the hack occurred and starting anew from there; all of the transactions made after the bug was exploited – but before the fix was implemented – were effectively cancelled.

How serious was it? Bitcoin’s lead developer Wladimir Van Der Laan is pretty blunt about it, telling me: “It was the worst problem ever.”

Source1: http://www.coindesk.com/9-biggest-screwups-bitcoin-history/
Source2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822.0


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11/12 March 2013 - Chain Fork Information
What happened: A bitcoin miner running version 0.8.0 created a large block (at height 225,430) that is incompatible with earlier versions of Bitcoin. The result was a block chain fork, with miners, merchants and users running the new version of bitcoin accepting, and building on, that block, and miners, merchants and users running older versions of bitcoin rejecting it and creating their own block chain.

What is being done:Large mining pools running version 0.8.0 were asked to switch back to version 0.7, to create a single block chain compatible with all bitcoin software.

What will be done
The core developers have investigated what caused the old versions to reject the new blocks, and have released a 0.8.1 version that avoids creating blocks that are incompatible with older versions. A full post-mortem document has been published.

Source1: https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2013-03-11-chain-fork
Source2: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/3668/bitcoin-network-shaken-by-blockchain-fork/
I also found this list: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures
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October 25, 2016, 04:29:07 PM
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LOL this is all despair for ETH not be replaced by ETC? I'm sure, are spending a lot of resources to hold the price of the ETC, but caution, it can all be in vain.

The price of the ETC is quite high at present. The reason for that is that the DAO hacker has not sold any.
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October 25, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
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Funny how uninformed journalist spouts nonsense about DAO bailout being "a technical change" and essentially repeats a silly "ETC HF? LOL!" comedy routine that nobody but ETC trollsters find funny even a bit...

http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-classic-blockchain-fork-ddos-attacks/


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October 25, 2016, 04:35:07 PM
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 History of Hardforks in Bitcoin



dude whats your point? etherium classic is not bitcoin i can guarantee you that  Roll Eyes

do your research fork 1 etherium classic kills existing contracts on the change because of new high gas price so irreversable code is law contracts and non third party interference blockchain is doa fork 2 will delete blockchain data even if it is empty so immute out the window and all decided by non vote and 3 or 4 developers and owner of the blockchain who started it with their money bankster friends behind them.  thats all you need to know. what you really need to know is this BTC  Wink
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October 25, 2016, 05:10:47 PM
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LOL Trolls ETC accusing of troll who defend the coin, it smacks despair.
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October 25, 2016, 05:25:32 PM
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The price of the ETC is quite high at present. The reason for that is that the DAO hacker has not sold any.
I guess the attacker is expecting higher price in the future, interesting.

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October 25, 2016, 05:59:50 PM
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ethereum: yo dawg I heard u like some fork.

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October 25, 2016, 10:05:13 PM
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where is the pump ? Huh
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October 25, 2016, 10:18:26 PM
Last edit: October 26, 2016, 01:38:00 AM by gijoes
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where is the pump ? Huh

Why would there be any? It's not a P&D shitcoin. Only those who understand Ethereum Classic value proposition as a community-backed smart contract platform without a single centralized point of failure should invest in it. Not the moonkids looking for a quick P&D. There is already like a million P&D altcoins specifically for that.

That being said, it doesn't mean there won't be a spectacular ETC price appreciation once people realize its has real value that ETH lost through stupid actions of Ethereum Foundation. But this appreciation doesn't depend on efforts of altcoin pumpers even a bit.


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