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September 05, 2016, 07:17:50 PM
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etc stands still in between .0022 to .0025. many other coins are getting too many attraction. etc is not doing that bad but not good either. my daily trading is stopped as no btc to invest elsewhere

The time will come. If you want invest longterm, if not wait few days and Trading days will come again. I personaly invested in ETC longterm because i believe in this project, and everyday there is more support. They are working hard on it and ETC hold the price on "nothing" if you want to hear this( is not nothing, but people keep saying it). Now imagine what will happen when they actually deliver something? There is 1000 of people who still dont want to invest in ETC because they are scared of something, lots of them holding ETH because price is more stable.. now im waiting what will happen in next months when ETC will show UP trend.. Hmm.. i wonder..  Cool Wink
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September 05, 2016, 07:21:52 PM
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I am very active on Troll, and i actually saw 3 posts today saying.. i just swap my ETH to ETC.. soo yeah people getting in.. every day someone new.. time will tell. Thats why i just got 950 ETC MORE. =)
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September 05, 2016, 11:31:20 PM
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you see the hacker has just donated 1000 ETC to the Classic Dev fund

https://gastracker.io/addr/0x5e8f0e63e7614c47079a41ad4c37be7def06df5a

http://cryptochainer.com/dir/?page_id=365


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September 06, 2016, 12:06:02 AM
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For real!

https://twitter.com/LefterisJP/status/772933198414286848


https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/51bwgd/the_hacker_has_just_withdrawn_their_booty_from/

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September 06, 2016, 12:10:00 AM
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Maybe hacker can donate me some etc too Smiley
Ths hacker really hate ethereum foundation lol

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September 06, 2016, 01:16:29 AM
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Donation confirmation  https://mobile.twitter.com/eth_classic/status/772939595726159872

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September 06, 2016, 06:17:38 AM
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I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.
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September 06, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
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I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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September 06, 2016, 06:58:28 AM
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Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.

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September 06, 2016, 09:11:05 AM
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Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.


Hackers are Bad guys. What ever the reason is, taking someone's property without consent is nothing but stealing. And we are expecting nice thing from a hacker ??
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September 06, 2016, 09:18:37 AM
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I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.


mmmmm sorry i dont think thats what ETC sais ETC sais we are not the law like in lawenvorcement. but the line code is law means something different it means the blockchain is immutable the ledger shall not be changed. we do not say we know if the hack or the takeing was a crime . there need to be an investigation. we are not the despot to decide . every person has a right of a objective investigation and a trail befor anounced guilty. and thats why ETC happend. not becouse we say its legal what the "hacker" did. me thinks given the evidence that have been published he took them legit but moraly hmmm or ethicaly not correct.becouse if the code was supost to act like it did the whole thing the dao was created like a fraud. and so he followed the fraud. was just faster then the one who planed to do the fraud.

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September 06, 2016, 10:00:50 AM
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Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.


Hackers are Bad guys. What ever the reason is, taking someone's property without consent is nothing but stealing. And we are expecting nice thing from a hacker ??

not all hackers are bad...many end up being a force for good by "stress testing" systems and highlighting security flaws. I wonder if the 1000 ETC is a test transfer before he/she transfers a lot more...that would send the price sky rocketing  Wink

Regardless, myself like a lot of other people are in ETC for the long term...seen too many people get burnt trying to game the market. buy low and hold long term always wins in my book

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September 06, 2016, 03:17:07 PM
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Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.


Hackers are Bad guys. What ever the reason is, taking someone's property without consent is nothing but stealing. And we are expecting nice thing from a hacker ??

He had consent. Everyone who sent to the dao consented to the terms of the contract. That contract had an actionable clause in it allowing for him to make a withdrawal. Hes not a hacker. He was exercising his rights as per the terms and conditions of the contract that everyone agreed to.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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September 06, 2016, 03:21:29 PM
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I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.


mmmmm sorry i dont think thats what ETC sais ETC sais we are not the law like in lawenvorcement. but the line code is law means something different it means the blockchain is immutable the ledger shall not be changed. we do not say we know if the hack or the takeing was a crime . there need to be an investigation. we are not the despot to decide . every person has a right of a objective investigation and a trail befor anounced guilty. and thats why ETC happend. not becouse we say its legal what the "hacker" did. me thinks given the evidence that have been published he took them legit but moraly hmmm or ethicaly not correct.becouse if the code was supost to act like it did the whole thing the dao was created like a fraud. and so he followed the fraud. was just faster then the one who planed to do the fraud.


Sorry but I disagree. The main point of ethereum is to develop an autonomous legal system. As per the terms of that legal system, the only legal system that has jurisdiction in matters of the ethereum blockchain, the "hacker" was within legal bounds. If some outside legal agency wants to interfere with the self governence of the sovereign ethereum blockchain than they are aggressors.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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September 06, 2016, 04:34:34 PM
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https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/05/17/security-alert-geth-suffers-from-a-very-low-probable-dos-attack-vector-update-immediately/


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/krypton-abandons-ethereum-based-blockchain-after-51-attack-kent
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September 06, 2016, 04:49:17 PM
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CODE IS LAW
If you are able to do something, just do it Wink
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September 06, 2016, 05:01:15 PM
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I must admit... I never bought 1 single ETH. That being said... I didn't really fall into all the smart contract Hype... But now that the dust has settled I have bought and own ETC for the principles that CODE IS LAW. 

I support your Fork of the Central Banking ETH community and thank you for your efforts to keep Crypto Decentralized. Decentralize EVERYTHING. Be the Decentralization

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September 06, 2016, 05:03:39 PM
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I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

Hehe, this hacker is a funny guy  Wink
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September 06, 2016, 05:39:21 PM
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I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.


mmmmm sorry i dont think thats what ETC sais ETC sais we are not the law like in lawenvorcement. but the line code is law means something different it means the blockchain is immutable the ledger shall not be changed. we do not say we know if the hack or the takeing was a crime . there need to be an investigation. we are not the despot to decide . every person has a right of a objective investigation and a trail befor anounced guilty. and thats why ETC happend. not becouse we say its legal what the "hacker" did. me thinks given the evidence that have been published he took them legit but moraly hmmm or ethicaly not correct.becouse if the code was supost to act like it did the whole thing the dao was created like a fraud. and so he followed the fraud. was just faster then the one who planed to do the fraud.


Sorry but I disagree. The main point of ethereum is to develop an autonomous legal system. As per the terms of that legal system, the only legal system that has jurisdiction in matters of the ethereum blockchain, the "hacker" was within legal bounds. If some outside legal agency wants to interfere with the self governence of the sovereign ethereum blockchain than they are aggressors.
hmm interesting point of view you have.
ok lets say you are right and it was ment to be a autonomous legal system ( didnt see that in the white paper but anyway) 
how can such a system prevent fraud ? like  i said befor if the hacker acted legal the whole dao was fraud haveing that bug on purpose.

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Classic found his bottom  Roll Eyes


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