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September 02, 2016, 01:39:42 PM
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Mining Ethereum Classic (ETC) through a pool website

Instead of command-prompt based mining, is it possible to mine ETC through a web-browser just like to mine BTC via Bitminter? (Mining is as simple as just opening a web page and leaving it open. When you're done just transfer whatever you managed to mine to any of your accounts and close the page)

No you need a big gpu

But still I need a command-prompt based applications like geth. I was asking is there any ETC pool like Bitminter for BTC, give an access to the pool via website?

Try https://minergate.com

Is it too bad to mine with CPU? GPU mining doesn't work, when I hit play nothing happens.

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September 02, 2016, 03:06:51 PM
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It's not a temporary pump, we are now not gonna go down back to $1.20. Hoping to see more pumps soon! Wink Miners should be interested in mining ETC now instead of ETH, check WhatToMine.com, with same hardware system, you can get about 8% more earnings by mining ETC than ETH.
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September 02, 2016, 03:40:08 PM
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It's not a temporary pump, we are now not gonna go down back to $1.20. Hoping to see more pumps soon! Wink Miners should be interested in mining ETC now instead of ETH, check WhatToMine.com, with same hardware system, you can get about 8% more earnings by mining ETC than ETH.

Mining profitability depends on many thing. Currently ETC and ETH produces almost same amount in $$. But hope ETC mining is more profitable if you just mine and hold it to sell later
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September 02, 2016, 06:42:19 PM
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Mining Ethereum Classic (ETC) through a pool website

Instead of command-prompt based mining, is it possible to mine ETC through a web-browser just like to mine BTC via Bitminter? (Mining is as simple as just opening a web page and leaving it open. When you're done just transfer whatever you managed to mine to any of your accounts and close the page)

No you need a big gpu

But still I need a command-prompt based applications like geth. I was asking is there any ETC pool like Bitminter for BTC, give an access to the pool via website?

Try https://minergate.com

Is it too bad to mine with CPU? GPU mining doesn't work, when I hit play nothing happens.

You need a 2GB GPU to mine Ethereum & Ethereum Classic.  You could CPU mine Grosetlcoin.  That is as efficient to CPU mine as GPU mine and it is still profitable.  https://www.whattomine.com/  My rigs mine Ethereum Classic and Grosetlcoin as well.  Why not use that spare CPU power and get some extra coin?

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September 02, 2016, 07:54:30 PM
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Mining Ethereum Classic (ETC) through a pool website

Instead of command-prompt based mining, is it possible to mine ETC through a web-browser just like to mine BTC via Bitminter? (Mining is as simple as just opening a web page and leaving it open. When you're done just transfer whatever you managed to mine to any of your accounts and close the page)

No you need a big gpu

But still I need a command-prompt based applications like geth. I was asking is there any ETC pool like Bitminter for BTC, give an access to the pool via website?

Try https://minergate.com

Is it too bad to mine with CPU? GPU mining doesn't work, when I hit play nothing happens.

You need a 2GB GPU to mine Ethereum & Ethereum Classic.  You could CPU mine Grosetlcoin.  That is as efficient to CPU mine as GPU mine and it is still profitable.  https://www.whattomine.com/  My rigs mine Ethereum Classic and Grosetlcoin as well.  Why not use that spare CPU power and get some extra coin?

I'm using AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series (2048 MB), but still no luck on MinerGate.

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September 02, 2016, 08:31:56 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2016, 08:53:43 PM by greenuser
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Mining Ethereum Classic (ETC) through a pool website

Instead of command-prompt based mining, is it possible to mine ETC through a web-browser just like to mine BTC via Bitminter? (Mining is as simple as just opening a web page and leaving it open. When you're done just transfer whatever you managed to mine to any of your accounts and close the page)

No you need a big gpu

But still I need a command-prompt based applications like geth. I was asking is there any ETC pool like Bitminter for BTC, give an access to the pool via website?

Try https://minergate.com

Is it too bad to mine with CPU? GPU mining doesn't work, when I hit play nothing happens.

You need a 2GB GPU to mine Ethereum & Ethereum Classic.  You could CPU mine Grosetlcoin.  That is as efficient to CPU mine as GPU mine and it is still profitable.  https://www.whattomine.com/  My rigs mine Ethereum Classic and Grosetlcoin as well.  Why not use that spare CPU power and get some extra coin?

I'm using AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series (2048 MB), but still no luck on MinerGate.

If you have windows 64bit

Download ethminer here https://github.com/ethereum/webthree-umbrella/releases/download/v1.2.9/cpp-ethereum-windows-v1.2.9.exe  
and install it.

Make a .bat file in the same folder as "ethminer.exe"     i.e. "C:/Progrem Files/Ethereum 0.9.41/Release" folder
and put this following code in it.

Code:
setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
ethminer.exe -F http://etc.nanopool.org:8888/put_your_address_here -G

and then run the .bat

This will get you mining at nanopool.  

to monitor your mining put this in your browser

Code:
https://etc.nanopool.org/account/put_your_address_here




You may want to download and install these first for best results

1) Update to these drivers that are proven to work the best

AMD 15.12 :

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-15.12.aspx



2) Download these packages

AMD openCL SDK Package:

http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/opencl-zone/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/


3) Download the microsoft Redistributables

http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=40784


You should get about 10MH/s per HD7800





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September 03, 2016, 08:56:09 AM
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Was just announced at ETC Shanghai meetup that https://minebox.io/ will be launching on the ETC blockchain Cool
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September 03, 2016, 09:37:27 AM
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Was just announced at ETC Shanghai meetup that https://minebox.io/ will be launching on the ETC blockchain Cool


while a great idea - their calculator has returns which are quite unrealistic.

Nobody is going to pay that much to store data? MineBox must get the rewards from paying customers. For example:

Storage choice:
Storage (3.25%)
1040GB
Redundancy (6.49%)
2076.8GB
Monetize (90.26%)
+28883.2GB

Monthly balances:
Dropbox's price for using 1040GB
-12.48€
Minebox's reward for renting 28883.2GB
+346.6€
Device's power consumption
-11.66€
Minebox rewards
After 1 month
+334.94€
After 1 year
+4019.28€
After 2 years
+8038.56€


would anyone pay 8,000€ to store 28TB for 2 years?

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Last edit: September 03, 2016, 11:01:58 AM by greenuser
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Was just announced at ETC Shanghai meetup that https://minebox.io/ will be launching on the ETC blockchain Cool


while a great idea - their calculator has returns which are quite unrealistic.

Nobody is going to pay that much to store data? MineBox must get the rewards from paying customers......

........would anyone pay 8,000€ to store 28TB for 2 years?

That depends on their USP (Unique Selling Point).  Security backed by a blockchain?
I wonder it they RAID 5 your data across peers.  That would offer good security.
I will look into this further.  I have a spare volume of 1TB to play with on a machine with constant up time.

But good news all the same  Smiley

On the subject of USPs, I was looking on Ethereum Project web page  https://www.ethereum.org/

I see they have droped the term "IMMUTABLE"

“Ethereum is a decentralized platform for applications that run exactly as programmed without any chance of fraud, censorship or third-party interference.”

Can anyone check see if they still have the term "IMMUTABLE" on their website?

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Last edit: September 03, 2016, 11:09:53 AM by greenuser
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Was just announced at ETC Shanghai meetup that https://minebox.io/ will be launching on the ETC blockchain Cool


That is later today Yes?  Or i was sleeping while it went down?

dapp  storage platform?  will they pay in ECT?  so many questions!

Edit: http://www.slideshare.net/arcatomia/ethereum-classic-shanghai-products-and-services

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Was just announced at ETC Shanghai meetup that https://minebox.io/ will be launching on the ETC blockchain Cool


while a great idea - their calculator has returns which are quite unrealistic.

Nobody is going to pay that much to store data? MineBox must get the rewards from paying customers......

........would anyone pay 8,000€ to store 28TB for 2 years?

That depends on their USP (Unique Selling Point).  Security backed by a blockchain?
I wonder it they RAID 5 your data across peers.  That would offer good security.
I will look into this further.  I have a spare volume of 1TB to play with on a machine with constant up time.

But good news all the same  Smiley

On the subject of USPs, I was looking on Ethereum Project web page  https://www.ethereum.org/

I see they have droped the term "IMMUTABLE"

“Ethereum is a decentralized platform for applications that run exactly as programmed without any chance of fraud, censorship or third-party interference.”

Can anyone check see if they still have the term "IMMUTABLE" on their website?

I don't see the word immutable on the front page any longer.  Since they haven't "yet" censored they can keep that on the page, but when core members make statements that if the "community" voted to censor they would.  So lets see how long before they make another fork that crosses more words off the "mission statement".
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September 03, 2016, 01:21:10 PM
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Was just announced at ETC Shanghai meetup that https://minebox.io/ will be launching on the ETC blockchain Cool


while a great idea - their calculator has returns which are quite unrealistic.

Nobody is going to pay that much to store data? MineBox must get the rewards from paying customers......

........would anyone pay 8,000€ to store 28TB for 2 years?

That depends on their USP (Unique Selling Point).  Security backed by a blockchain?
I wonder it they RAID 5 your data across peers.  That would offer good security.
I will look into this further.  I have a spare volume of 1TB to play with on a machine with constant up time.

But good news all the same  Smiley

On the subject of USPs, I was looking on Ethereum Project web page  https://www.ethereum.org/

I see they have droped the term "IMMUTABLE"

“Ethereum is a decentralized platform for applications that run exactly as programmed without any chance of fraud, censorship or third-party interference.”

Can anyone check see if they still have the term "IMMUTABLE" on their website?

I don't see the word immutable on the front page any longer.  Since they haven't "yet" censored they can keep that on the page, but when core members make statements that if the "community" voted to censor they would.  So lets see how long before they make another fork that crosses more words off the "mission statement".

I joind MineBox.  Will let you all know when i am up and running.

Anyhow, Bitpop is right.  If its not immutable its not a blockchain, its just a database that updates ~13sec

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is the first dapp released by the way?
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September 03, 2016, 01:30:52 PM
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Doesn't the DAO hacker have access to their ETC since yesterday?  I have been waiting for the earth to quake, ETC to fall to negative numbers, and for Elvis to come out of hiding and announce he is running for President.... So far nothing, nada....  I double checked Polo this moring, pulled out a magnifying glass and no sign of the minus in front of ETC...  Hmmm, And I was really looking forward to Elvis winning the US election... 

Looking like yet another FUD event created by the ETHF is going to pass without anything happening.  Now if we can put pressure on the ETHF to force the return of the DAO funds THEY stole that are "unclaimed" we can get on with the business at hand without meddling by those that don't seem to care what immutable means.
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September 03, 2016, 02:21:54 PM
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can someone explain:
since all the dapp code is public it should be easy to deploy dapps on both chains or copy them right?
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September 03, 2016, 02:36:48 PM
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can someone explain:
since all the dapp code is public it should be easy to deploy dapps on both chains or copy them right?
From what i understand, yes!

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September 03, 2016, 02:39:39 PM
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could then raiden also be just copied? my guess is no..

maybe someone can elaborate a bit or any links about that?
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September 03, 2016, 06:36:40 PM
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Tiny movement in exchanges. Price is going down again. ETC is suffering a lot by surroundings
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September 03, 2016, 06:49:21 PM
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Tiny movement in exchanges. Price is going down again. ETC is suffering a lot by surroundings

other coins are doing too good atm. traders dont care about eth/etc right now.  Sad
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I wonder why there is only 0.99BTC buy support on ccex.

Just one miner can dump to 1 SATO...
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