[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[CarloVetc]

Ethereum Classic Australian meetup on September 20th. 

https://coins.newbium.com/post/1429-ethereum-classic-australian-meetup-september-20th

[Lion BItcoin Shop]

 
For those of you too shy to ask    
you do not have to lose face

Wallets here:
 
Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum) by whatisgravity
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

"ETC geth node" 1.4.10 requires no additional flags to use the Ethereum Classic network.
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases/tag/6aaf5f3
"ETC geth node" 1.4.11 source is now available for early use and testing, please create a detailed report if any issues are found.
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases


Light Client-Side Wallet by elaine
So no need to download the blockchain https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#generate-wallet
Send with Replay Protection on the light wallet https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#replay-protection

Ethereum Classic Wallet Google Chrome Extension by DontPanicBurns  
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/classicetherwallet-cx/opggclcfcbfbchcienjdaohghcamjfhf

Ledger Nano S Hardware Wallet now supports Ethereum Classic
https://www.ledgerwallet.com/products/12-ledger-nano-s

Android wallet due early October

And Now! Minebox (decentralized cloud storage) https://minebox.io/ launching soon on
The Immutable Ethereum Classic Blockchain
“I had the pleasure of learning about minebox with the team in Vienna. I told them I wanted to be their first customer;
this is a phenomenal solution for decentralizing all the things”  
Erik Voorhees CEO of Shapshift


Mining pools that are know good payers  
https://etc.suprnova.cc/  
http://epool.io/#/  
https://etc.nanopool.org/
http://etc.coinpool.biz
other pools are available but think decenteralisation when you choose
(please help others and tell us the good from the bad)
 
Pool Mining: How-to for Windows with AMD GPU page 217 of this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.4320
Solo Mining: How-to for Windows  on bottom of page 191 of this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.3800

Ethereum Classic Cloud Mining Service https://ethasher.com/

Got a scrypt ASIC and want to be paid in ETC?  https://prohashing.com/

Network Hashrate is ~550 GH/s http://fork.ethstats.net/
Hashrate Distribution http://etherx.com/pools/
Mining Profit Calculator  https://www.whattomine.com/
Official Block Explorer  http://blocks.elaineou.com/home
New Block Explorer under Development (please give feedback) EtherX.com

Ethereum Classic Website https://ethereumclassic.github.io/
Now with links to the ETHEREUM CLASSIC FORUM, just follow “SOCIAL LINK” on the Ethereum Classic Website

sCOOL_CLASSic
Want to learn how to code smart contracts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jI1TuEaTro

Come aboard, All miners are Welcome!
Please watch this video & try to begin to understand how you can help scale this project.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8oeiOeDq_Nc



Follow the progress of the 12 person Dev Team & The Bomb Disposal Squad
here: https://trello.com/etcdev
and https://github.com/ethereumproject
Plus: https://trello.com/b/IMM4cxSD/etc-marketing-documents-deliverables

DEVCHAT
August link (pdf Download) http://cointunnel.com/fetch/discussion-group.pdf
September link https://steemit.com/ethereum/@charleshosk/ethereum-classic-an-update
Weekly: https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/52fdti/etc_weekly_development_report_for_the_period_05/


Ethereum Classic has:
100+ volunteer coders https://github.com/ethereumproject/volunteer/tree/master/Key    
1132 on slack https://ethereumclassic.slack.com/messages/development/
World support from many miners like Chandler Guo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI
And check out Keiser Report on RT tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmctYSF1-w&feature=youtu.be&t=1071


Note For Traders

Only invest what you can afford to loose.  Remember, bubbles can pop!
Don't trade on emotion, only on mathematical theory / systems.
Do your “due diligence” research, research, research. (Is the commodity experimental?)
Spread your investment over a number of coins to “hedge your bets”
Think of going “short” to protect yourself from potential losses.
Do not trade with a loaded gun and a bottle of spirits/hard liquor in the room.
Crypto is high risk, have you tried gold or silver trading? forex even?
Ethereum Classic is a long term investment, look for quick returns elsewhere!

you forget to add jaxx wallet. now we can use jaxx as etc wallet
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jaxx-blockchain-wallet/ancbofgphhmhcchnaognahmjfajaecmo?hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kryptokit.jaxx&hl=en
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jaxx-blockchain-wallet/id1084514516?mt=8

[ginmac]

Mining pools that are know good payers
https://etc.suprnova.cc/  
http://epool.io/#/  
https://etc.nanopool.org/
http://etc.coinpool.biz

So why missing http://etc.ethermine.org/

[roselee]

Who is the hell selliing etc?? this is big amount of selling!!!

This is crypto, it seems that they are selling but they are buying.

i think thiis coin is already fail... price tell everything market tell the thruth....

considering that ETC is just 2 month old lets look at EThereum when it was 2 month old?
2 month after crowdfunding what was the price ? i guess i remember it was below 1$ and then didnt deliver anything real till just a year ago. and it broke promisses.
lets look at ETC what has been acomblished?
it  stood alive.
has a plan to deal with the most reckless gift the Ethereum foundation gave us the diff bomb.
has first dapps working in progress.
has lots of devs joining and wait it is listed on exhanges
thats a lot more then ethereum had after 2 month and o yes it does all this with no crowdfunding money couse ETH took all of that with them.
so yes this is a strong coin. couse the comunity is strong .

[greenuser]

"@Lion BItcoin Shop"  
Jaxx is up in the air at the moment
https://cointelegraph.com/news/jaxx-says-ethereum-classics-rejection-by-ios-app-store-is-apples-loss
and i support Charles's view.

Moreover; Apple have problems of their own.  Jean-Claude Juncker the unelected President of The European Federation is hitting them with a big tax bill, and people were protesting outside Apple's Irish Office only a few days ago.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/europes-bite-out-of-apple-shows-the-need-for-u-s-tax-reform-1473722046
http://mashable.com/2016/08/31/apple-protest-ireland/#gWPcqiv1PZq4

I refuse to use Apple products.  The conditions people have to work in to extract the minerals for electronic components is unacceptable. Also, Democratic Republic of Cong  has been controlled by Western Multinationals maintaining war, cahos, and lack of democracy.  Millions die while a select few get rich.  You can help end this by not consuming their products.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3280872/iPhone-mineral-miners-Africa-use-bare-hands-coltan.html
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-conflict-minerals-funded-a-war-that-killed-millions/
Unless all you care for is money?

I thought crypto was way of getting around the Banking and the Multinationals Corporations.
I didn't like how Ethereum Foundation buddied up to the banks.  
For me, crypto is part of The Global Insurrection Against Banker Occupation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-_bnnsE4Y


@ginmac  I can put http://etc.ethermine.org/  up if you wish.  Are they any good?  Do they pay on time, good ddos protection? Can you vouch for them?

[bbc.reporter]

I think reality is beginning to settle on all of us. Instead of parity with ETH happening, all that is happening is a falling ETC price and barely any updates from the development team. I fear that no one is taking ETC seriously and could be viewed as an abandoned platform of Vitalik. What are your thoughts?

[Raja_MBZ]

I think reality is beginning to settle on all of us. Instead of parity with ETH happening, all that is happening is a falling ETC price and barely any updates from the development team. I fear that no one is taking ETC seriously and could be viewed as an abandoned platform of Vitalik. What are your thoughts?

No, I'm guessing that it's just a dump. You'll see a pump coming soon, the scene of pump and dump is still active. I really don't see any great or big improvement in ETH either.

Let's hope for the best from the price of ETC as well as from the dev team.

[bbc.reporter]

@Raja_MBZ. "It is just a dump"? That is a sign of a loss of confidence among the holders of ETC. This price range is where it should hold because going lower than this will result in ETC losing the miners. If that happens then we will be vulnerable to a 51% attack. Do not naively think that no one is out there to destroy ETC.

[The Frisian]

It's just a dump ... for over a month now.

[CarloVetc]

Charles Hoskinson on Twitter

IOHK is very pleased to Announce the First Provably Secure Proof of Stake.

https://twitter.com/IOHK_Charles/status/776048255461314560

[arhibalt]

How long will this lull?

[greenuser]

Charles Hoskinson on Twitter

IOHK is very pleased to Announce the First Provably Secure Proof of Stake.

https://twitter.com/IOHK_Charles/status/776048255461314560

Hats off to Charles et al, the first PoS-based blockchain protocol that has
rigorous security analysis. Not the easiest read but arguably a breakthrough publication.  
This should pull a green candle  

How soon, and at what ratio to PoW will we expect to see in this integrated into a new hybrid algorithm?  

[CarloVetc]

Charles Hoskinson on Twitter

IOHK is very pleased to Announce the First Provably Secure Proof of Stake.

https://twitter.com/IOHK_Charles/status/776048255461314560

Hats off to Charles et al, the first PoS-based blockchain protocol that has
rigorous security analysis. Not the easiest read but arguably a breakthrough publication.  
This should pull a green candle  

How soon, and at what ratio to PoW will we expect to see in this integrated into a new hybrid algorithm?  

Hi Green,

This research will be part of discussions currently taking place. POW, POW/POS hybrid discussions are still ongoing so unfortunately I do not have details to provide. As more information becomes available I will be sure to keep this forum posted.  

Cheers
Carlo  

[CarloVetc]

Chandler Guo: Vitalik Made ‘Huge Mistake’ In Changing Ethereum Blockchain

http://coinjournal.net/guo-and-ethereum-classic/

[Longsnowsm]

Chandler Guo: Vitalik Made ‘Huge Mistake’ In Changing Ethereum Blockchain

http://coinjournal.net/guo-and-ethereum-classic/

Vitalik is not coming back, he is going further down the "fork" rabbit hole with suggestions that the blockchain should have superuser access and be modifiable on demand.  Sorry, but isn't coming back... He has gone to the dark side...

[wingless]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

[Longsnowsm]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate. 

[greenuser]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate.  

YES you can SOLO CPU mine both ethereum and ethereum classic (just not at the same time)
you have to run the full node (geth).

Follow this guide
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/guides/how-to-mine-ethereum/


If you use the ETH "geth" you will mine ETH. DO NOT RUN BOTH.
If you have had ETH node on your machine before you will need to make a coppy of your "keys" and delete the ethereum folder in user/AppData/Roming

If you use the ETC geth you will mine ETC
Get etc geth here: "ETC geth node 1.4.10" requires no additional flags to use the Ethereum Classic network.
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases/tag/6aaf5f3
So NO NEED start your geth as in Step 7 of the above guide with the param

Code:

--oppose-dao-fork

Just rename "geth-windows-4.0-amd64.exe" to "geth.exe" once downloaded and unpacked

Follow the guide step by step and you will be mining SOLO, with your CPU.

One you have the mining up and running with "geth", install the GUI browser to make the "geth" wallet more userfriendly.
Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum) by whatisgravity
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

Good luck, i solved my first solo block via CPU.  You may wait a long time or you may get one just like that.

[Longsnowsm]

I didn't figure there would be any way to have enough hash power with a CPU to be effective.  I stand corrected! LOL  Thanks for the feedback @greenuser. 

[wingless]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate. 

Thanks for the reply. I know this isn't the best place to ask you this, but I might as well go ahead... do you know of any cpu altcoins that would be suitable for solo mining?

Thanks