[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[greenuser]

"@Lion BItcoin Shop"  
Jaxx is up in the air at the moment
https://cointelegraph.com/news/jaxx-says-ethereum-classics-rejection-by-ios-app-store-is-apples-loss
and i support Charles's view.

Moreover; Apple have problems of their own.  Jean-Claude Juncker the unelected President of The European Federation is hitting them with a big tax bill, and people were protesting outside Apple's Irish Office only a few days ago.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/europes-bite-out-of-apple-shows-the-need-for-u-s-tax-reform-1473722046
http://mashable.com/2016/08/31/apple-protest-ireland/#gWPcqiv1PZq4

I refuse to use Apple products.  The conditions people have to work in to extract the minerals for electronic components is unacceptable. Also, Democratic Republic of Cong  has been controlled by Western Multinationals maintaining war, cahos, and lack of democracy.  Millions die while a select few get rich.  You can help end this by not consuming their products.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3280872/iPhone-mineral-miners-Africa-use-bare-hands-coltan.html
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-conflict-minerals-funded-a-war-that-killed-millions/
Unless all you care for is money?

I thought crypto was way of getting around the Banking and the Multinationals Corporations.
I didn't like how Ethereum Foundation buddied up to the banks.  
For me, crypto is part of The Global Insurrection Against Banker Occupation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-_bnnsE4Y


@ginmac  I can put http://etc.ethermine.org/  up if you wish.  Are they any good?  Do they pay on time, good ddos protection? Can you vouch for them?

[bbc.reporter]

I think reality is beginning to settle on all of us. Instead of parity with ETH happening, all that is happening is a falling ETC price and barely any updates from the development team. I fear that no one is taking ETC seriously and could be viewed as an abandoned platform of Vitalik. What are your thoughts?

[bbc.reporter]

@Raja_MBZ. "It is just a dump"? That is a sign of a loss of confidence among the holders of ETC. This price range is where it should hold because going lower than this will result in ETC losing the miners. If that happens then we will be vulnerable to a 51% attack. Do not naively think that no one is out there to destroy ETC.

[The Frisian]

It's just a dump ... for over a month now.

[CarloVetc]

Charles Hoskinson on Twitter

IOHK is very pleased to Announce the First Provably Secure Proof of Stake.

https://twitter.com/IOHK_Charles/status/776048255461314560

[arhibalt]

How long will this lull?

[greenuser]

Charles Hoskinson on Twitter

IOHK is very pleased to Announce the First Provably Secure Proof of Stake.

https://twitter.com/IOHK_Charles/status/776048255461314560

Hats off to Charles et al, the first PoS-based blockchain protocol that has
rigorous security analysis. Not the easiest read but arguably a breakthrough publication.  
This should pull a green candle  

How soon, and at what ratio to PoW will we expect to see in this integrated into a new hybrid algorithm?  

[CarloVetc]

Charles Hoskinson on Twitter

IOHK is very pleased to Announce the First Provably Secure Proof of Stake.

https://twitter.com/IOHK_Charles/status/776048255461314560

Hats off to Charles et al, the first PoS-based blockchain protocol that has
rigorous security analysis. Not the easiest read but arguably a breakthrough publication.  
This should pull a green candle  

How soon, and at what ratio to PoW will we expect to see in this integrated into a new hybrid algorithm?  

Hi Green,

This research will be part of discussions currently taking place. POW, POW/POS hybrid discussions are still ongoing so unfortunately I do not have details to provide. As more information becomes available I will be sure to keep this forum posted.  

Cheers
Carlo  

[CarloVetc]

Chandler Guo: Vitalik Made ‘Huge Mistake’ In Changing Ethereum Blockchain

http://coinjournal.net/guo-and-ethereum-classic/

[Longsnowsm]

Chandler Guo: Vitalik Made ‘Huge Mistake’ In Changing Ethereum Blockchain

http://coinjournal.net/guo-and-ethereum-classic/

Vitalik is not coming back, he is going further down the "fork" rabbit hole with suggestions that the blockchain should have superuser access and be modifiable on demand.  Sorry, but isn't coming back... He has gone to the dark side...

[wingless]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

[Longsnowsm]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate. 

[greenuser]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate.  

YES you can SOLO CPU mine both ethereum and ethereum classic (just not at the same time)
you have to run the full node (geth).

Follow this guide
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/guides/how-to-mine-ethereum/


If you use the ETH "geth" you will mine ETH. DO NOT RUN BOTH.
If you have had ETH node on your machine before you will need to make a coppy of your "keys" and delete the ethereum folder in user/AppData/Roming

If you use the ETC geth you will mine ETC
Get etc geth here: "ETC geth node 1.4.10" requires no additional flags to use the Ethereum Classic network.
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases/tag/6aaf5f3
So NO NEED start your geth as in Step 7 of the above guide with the param

Code:

--oppose-dao-fork

Just rename "geth-windows-4.0-amd64.exe" to "geth.exe" once downloaded and unpacked

Follow the guide step by step and you will be mining SOLO, with your CPU.

One you have the mining up and running with "geth", install the GUI browser to make the "geth" wallet more userfriendly.
Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum) by whatisgravity
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

Good luck, i solved my first solo block via CPU.  You may wait a long time or you may get one just like that.

[Longsnowsm]

I didn't figure there would be any way to have enough hash power with a CPU to be effective.  I stand corrected! LOL  Thanks for the feedback @greenuser. 

[wingless]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate. 

Thanks for the reply. I know this isn't the best place to ask you this, but I might as well go ahead... do you know of any cpu altcoins that would be suitable for solo mining?

Thanks

[greenuser]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate. 

Thanks for the reply. I know this isn't the best place to ask you this, but I might as well go ahead... do you know of any cpu altcoins that would be suitable for solo mining?

Thanks

Monero?  That is CPU mine-able

I didn't figure there would be any way to have enough hash power with a CPU to be effective.  I stand corrected! LOL  Thanks for the feedback @greenuser. 

It only takes one hash to solve a block, just run without "-G" in your argument.  CPUs don't use loads of power and if you run software like "System Explorer 7.1.0.5" by Mister Group you can set "affinity", i.e. you can set to run on as many or as few cores as you choose.  Have one core solo mining on a 4 core machine while you do other stuff, why not?

As i say you may have some wait but you may get lucy

[randayh]

Epool will be moving our Getwork servers to,

us4.epool.io:8888
uk4.epool.io:8888

Please be sure to update your miner config if you plan to continue using the Getwork Protocol.

Stratum Miners may still continue to use,

us1.epool.io:8008
us2.epool.io:8008
us3.epool.io:8008
uk1.epool.io:8008
uk2.epool.io:8008
uk3.epool.io:8008

Change will likely take effect over the next few weeks or so.

Thank you.

epool.io

[bbc.reporter]

It's just a dump ... for over a month now.

Yes. Although I am a supporter of ETC we can all see that this latest comments in this thread is the smell of desperation. The ETC development team has been to quiet and this is the wrong approach. They should be very vocal on how they can take the platform in a better direction than Vitalik's team.

When is Devcon 2? Will the ETC team attend it?

[malekbaba]

It's just a dump ... for over a month now.

Yes. Although I am a supporter of ETC we can all see that this latest comments in this thread is the smell of desperation. The ETC development team has been to quiet and this is the wrong approach. They should be very vocal on how they can take the platform in a better direction than Vitalik's team.

When is Devcon 2? Will the ETC team attend it?

do you think that there will be a good price movement after devcon2 ? ETC has published the weekly updates and they will continue to let us know the progress on weekly basis. Just read the post regarding updates in earlier pages

[Timbo_Slice]

Is it possible to realistically solo mine this coin with your cpu? If so, can you do it through the wallet?

Not with a cpu, but with a gpu card possibly.  But you realistically need a lot of MHs to get lucky when solo mining.  For small scale mining your better off using a pool and even then you really need to use GPU's to get enough hash rate. 

Thanks for the reply. I know this isn't the best place to ask you this, but I might as well go ahead... do you know of any cpu altcoins that would be suitable for solo mining?

Thanks

You can CPU mine some Monero dust. I've been using Minergate to CPU mine on my mining rig with one core. A whole .07 XMR in roughly a month at 15 H/s, but it's not like the CPU is doing anything else!