Biffa
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November 26, 2013, 02:05:35 PM |
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They are currently selling 550GH/s Jupiters for 5k, so I'd say that the 2TH machines NEED to be cheaper than $20k - its a no brainer. Do not forget that you will have to face a huge wait and the BTC/USD is very uncertain, as usual.
I won't be in unless the 2TH machines cost $10k or less.
Actually its currently 650Gh/s for 5K so I'm hoping they will be under 15K for 2TH if they delivered Neptune in November! Plus I'd like to hope they would be aggressively pricing against the competition Why not just bury them? If a proven company like KnC can come up with 2TH for less than the non-existent pre-orders then they should get quite an avalanche of "defectors" With the difficulty increases and competitors coming on the market, 2TH in March would need to be the same price was last month 650GH
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November 26, 2013, 02:05:54 PM |
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2TH for somewhere between (12 x 120v = 1440w) and (12 x 230v = 2760w) is not exactly a huge leap in efficiency. Slap bang in the middle of that range is 2100w You can have 2TH with 55nm Bitfury for 2300w They quoted 0.7w/(GH/s) tho they were very conservative last time with their estimates. They didn't beat the 55nm Bitfury with the 28nm. Eventually this game will come down to power efficiency. I don't believe they are using real ASICs but instead FPGA HardCopy ASICs I'll only be interested if it's selling under $20,000 They are currently selling 550GH/s Jupiters for 5k, so I'd say that the 2TH machines NEED to be cheaper than $20k - its a no brainer. Do not forget that you will have to face a huge wait and the BTC/USD is very uncertain, as usual. I won't be in unless the 2TH machines cost $10k or less. You guys are all way off, with Cointerra TerraMiner IV 2TH March batch selling for $6000 and looks like Neptune has about the same power efficiency. I know Cointerra is late with taping out beginning of the month, but with 4 months to go, they should be able to deliver their March batch on time. Therefore, Neptune at most should only cost $6000. My guess following KnC's under-promise/over-deliver mantra is Neptune will be $6000 but instead of 0.7W/Ghs, it will actually be 0.5W running at least 50% faster than they claim = 3TB for $6000. http://cointerra.com/product/terraminer-iv-2ths-networked-asic-miner-march-batch/
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Phoenix1969
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November 26, 2013, 02:07:32 PM |
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just paid for Neptune!
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PenAndPaper
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November 26, 2013, 02:09:25 PM |
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just paid for Neptune!
How much and how? I can't see something in knc's hompage except the "orders opening soon"
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sbfree
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November 26, 2013, 02:10:25 PM |
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just paid waiting for confirmation.....
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puffer
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November 26, 2013, 02:10:29 PM |
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I think someone should start to engineer and produce serious 2000W PSU
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Quibus in rebus duo maxime fugienda sunt – ne quid effeminatum aut molle, et ne quid durum aut rusticum sit
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November 26, 2013, 02:10:51 PM |
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2TH for somewhere between (12 x 120v = 1440w) and (12 x 230v = 2760w) is not exactly a huge leap in efficiency. Slap bang in the middle of that range is 2100w You can have 2TH with 55nm Bitfury for 2300w They quoted 0.7w/(GH/s) tho they were very conservative last time with their estimates. They didn't beat the 55nm Bitfury with the 28nm. Eventually this game will come down to power efficiency. I don't believe they are using real ASICs but instead FPGA HardCopy ASICs I'll only be interested if it's selling under $20,000 They are currently selling 550GH/s Jupiters for 5k, so I'd say that the 2TH machines NEED to be cheaper than $20k - its a no brainer. Do not forget that you will have to face a huge wait and the BTC/USD is very uncertain, as usual. I won't be in unless the 2TH machines cost $10k or less. You guys are all way off, with Cointerra TerraMiner IV 2TH March batch selling for $6000 and looks like Neptune has about the same power efficiency. I know Cointerra is late with taping out beginning of the month, but with 4 months to go, they should be able to deliver their March batch on time. Therefore, Neptune at most should only cost $6000. My guess following KnC's under-promise/over-deliver mantra is Neptune will be $6000 but instead of 0.7W/Ghs, it will actually be 0.5W running at least 50% faster than they claim = 3TB for $6000. http://cointerra.com/product/terraminer-iv-2ths-networked-asic-miner-march-batch/Yes !
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de_ixie
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November 26, 2013, 02:10:58 PM |
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baaaah only BC payment - I want to puke
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ASIC-K
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November 26, 2013, 02:11:07 PM |
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10k eek.
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Wesly
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November 26, 2013, 02:11:43 PM |
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Pretty scary pay 10k and waiting till March BTC value,100$ maybe 14$ like in January 2013 We won't all be here if we believe bitcoin is going down to $1 now would we? Sure there will be up and down, may even go down to the previous peak of $300 before the crash, but I know I will be buying more if it goes down that low. It is truly $10,000 (may take 1 year or 10 years) or bust (a hacker found a fatal flaws).
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r3animation
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November 26, 2013, 02:12:54 PM |
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Just placed my order.
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sbfree
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November 26, 2013, 02:13:13 PM |
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phoenix, mine shows order status "new"....my payment has 1 confirmation....
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ASIC-K
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November 26, 2013, 02:13:23 PM |
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how do i pay bank transfer? ps my order number is 1109x
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soy
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November 26, 2013, 02:13:36 PM |
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Hey I saw someone posted on the KNC site that the November Jupiters draw a lot more power. Does anyone knew if this is true? Could KNC tell us please since they are shipping they must have tested a few. Or could the first people receiving through up a draw number at the wall? It would be appreciated since I assume everyone ordered their PSU in advance and I used their recommendation of an 850W.
there are others on here that have more expertise that can chime in but to the best of my knowledge they draw more power because they are supposedly capbable of 650gh..now seeings how KNC often "under estimates" what is what on GH if it was me I'd get at least a 1200w unit simply because you just "know" someone down the line when it is prudent is gonna have a hack to 'overclock" knc units anyway that is my take on it..better safe then sorry Searing What does a typical electric heater draw? 1500 watts @ 120vac.
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November 26, 2013, 02:14:41 PM |
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For those who can't see it: Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q1/Q2 of 2014. The stats and performance that we can release today are Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment) A 30% reduction in watts per GH Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses) Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014 Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner bought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner Limited batch of 1200 units, Existing customers only can buy at this price other batches will be released later to non-existing customers at a higher price. These items will be on sale for two weeks at this price or until it has sold out whichever comes first Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only. All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment No way I'm paying in BTC, personally. The coins' future value is quite possibly greater than that of the machine itself.
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madsusies
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November 26, 2013, 02:18:16 PM |
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Mota
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November 26, 2013, 02:18:19 PM |
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I agree, 3Th for 10k in bitcoin is a joke. No idea when they will deliver those, Q1/Q2 can mean anything right now. could mean June for all i know, why would I throw so much money into that if the comeptition can deliver faster and cheaper?
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sbfree
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November 26, 2013, 02:20:03 PM |
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pheew, now it shows paid....
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seriouscoin
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November 26, 2013, 02:20:36 PM |
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Im curious ..How come i dont see it on KNCminer.com?
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