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November 20, 2013, 03:55:46 PM
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Who let you out of noobie jail? At least you can't delete people's responses now you're in this thread.

I doubt you are going to get much sympathy in here throwing around your vague complaints and posting what is really just slander.

Don't feed the trolls lemonte, and don't quote them Smiley

Umm  libel -- Libel is written;  Slander is spoken..

Too many engineers in this thread who skipped their English classes.


Indeed, Apologies! I do, or at least did know this, having once been accused of the former. I am not however an engineer sadly Sad

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November 20, 2013, 04:04:53 PM
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The difference between Bar, myself and say Avenger is that we're real customers and we're expecting reasonable outcomes.

In this forum, where every participant is free to express their feelings in accordance with the subject discussed, the only difference between you and Avenger is the username. Do not really matter if he is a real KnCminer customers or not, he is free to express his opinion as much as you are. Put him in an ignore list will not change the facts.

+1

Ermm not if he's claiming BS like his mate works in the manufacturing facility and he has false information about what is going on. That's a lie.

Claiming to be a customer, cheerleading the negativity as if he is actually experiencing it. He has no facts to change.

The fact that Croppo who openly has hated KnC since the very start is compounding the FUD with the pretense of impartiality is equally as dishonest, both have an agenda and it's pathetic...

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November 20, 2013, 04:05:09 PM
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That is the $1000000 dollar question now isn't it?  Literally.

No, the $1000000 dollar question is will BTC reach $1000000  Grin

I will keep this short.

The current US government budget is about $3 Trillion Dollars. The current US deficit (revenue shortfall) runs about $1 Trillion dollars.

What value would BitCoin be just to cover the deficit? How about the entire US government budget? How about the Canadian Budget -- right chump change and six BTC. How about the Eurodollar -- just for fun.

What value would BitCoin have to reach just to cover the US Gross Domestic Product (production figures for goods and services)?

People in computing at the design level are very familiar with the can't use a "big" hard drive phenomena -- where the address table was orders of (binary) magnitude too small. There are questions like -- why did you only allow for 32 categories? (I thought it was lots? dumb dumb dumb). (And it happens again and again.)

So here's the question(s)

Will there be a BTC QE 1? (i.e. inflation through BTC expansion)
Will there be a rush to using Milli or Micro BTC to track our wealth? (I'm, wealthy with a hundred milli-bits of BTC? It doesn't sound right -- does it?

As we wait for our upgrades you can contemplate these philosophical questions. What else can we do?

If people really want to get into this seriously other than a few off the cuff comments -- it could be interesting -- but maybe another forum.


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November 20, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
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Warning: Off Topic, mash ignore if you like.

That pump and dump has me mildly upset.  I recall early this year when the crash happened.  I was watching the BFL chat.  Guys came on after cashing out and posted as if shouting: SELL SELL QUICK IT'S CRASHING (I paraphrase).  A reverse pump and dump.  They managed a significant transfer of wealth to themselves and created a mass of disillusioned, disappointed, mostly Americans I think, among them myself.  Now, on the night before the Senate hearing a massive pump and dump likely by shills of the banking industry.  Clearly they were trying to destabilize Bitcoin.  A crucial element of any attack on Bitcoin would be creating a mass of bitterly disappointed Bitcoin owners.  And I read here "let's make some money".  Bummer.  Well, if one looks at the MtGox 1 month plot, it seems like one can plot a continuation of a reasonable Bitcoin increase if one ignores the pump and dump.  We can only hope the burned buyers aren't right now trying to dump their Bitcoins.

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Warning: Off Topic, mash ignore if you like.

That pump and dump has me mildly upset.  I recall early this year when the crash happened.  I was watching the BFL chat.  Guys came on after cashing out and posted as if shouting: SELL SELL QUICK IT'S CRASHING (I paraphrase).  A reverse pump and dump.  They managed a significant transfer of wealth to themselves and created a mass of disillusioned, disappointed, mostly Americans I think, among them myself.  Now, on the night before the Senate hearing a massive pump and dump likely by shills of the banking industry.  Clearly they were trying to destabilize Bitcoin.  A crucial element of any attack on Bitcoin would be creating a mass of bitterly disappointed Bitcoin owners.  And I read here "let's make some money".  Bummer.  Well, if one looks at the MtGox 1 month plot, it seems like one can plot a continuation of a reasonable Bitcoin increase if one ignores the pump and dump.  We can only hope the burned buyers aren't right now trying to dump their Bitcoins.

Uh huh...

If people want to get a dose of reality... https://www.cavirtex.com/home

Tends to have a more conservative approach to trading so the values do not swing as wildly. Before I consider trading or buying I look there for what I  think is a more realistic value for the BTC. Not that I would not trade on MtGox say -- just to get a premium if I could -- but I think the value realized would be closer to the more conservative value.

Canajun -- eh? Middle of the road on everything -- even blandness.

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November 20, 2013, 04:34:03 PM
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spend 5 mins on BTCe...lulz

Yeah - it's hilarious watching the chat there
"FTC crashing - get out now"
"FTC going through the roof - buy buy buy"
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November 20, 2013, 04:35:14 PM
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The difference between Bar, myself and say Avenger is that we're real customers and we're expecting reasonable outcomes.

In this forum, where every participant is free to express their feelings in accordance with the subject discussed, the only difference between you and Avenger is the username. Do not really matter if he is a real KnCminer customers or not, he is free to express his opinion as much as you are. Put him in an ignore list will not change the facts.

+1

Ermm not if he's claiming BS like his mate works in the manufacturing facility and he has false information about what is going on. That's a lie.

Claiming to be a customer, cheerleading the negativity as if he is actually experiencing it. He has no facts to change.

The fact that Croppo who openly has hated KnC since the very start is compounding the FUD with the pretense of impartiality is equally as dishonest, both have an agenda and it's pathetic...
No. You are pathetic buttcoinorama. This guy brings up a 2 week old point and you use it to take a pop again. So childish.

I NEVER claimed I had a contact in the factory. You just can't seem to get it out of your tiny brain, you still want to misrepresent what I said.

What propaganda? You're owed no apology. Haven't you got a contact on the ground at the factory? That's precisely what you've been claiming. Also I those figures I stated the otherday were precisely what I had been told. I have not lied. Period.

I haven't spread any bullshit at anypoint, so good luck with that. Wink

That's great, you just proved how stupid you are.

News just in from sources in Sweden.

Production factory closes at 10pm every night and is closed over the weekend.

No wonder they are still pissing around turning out 70/day.

The guys at the end of the queue ain't gonna see diddly squat for weeks.

I in no way said I had "contact on the ground at the factory".

NOW, are you going to apologise for misrepresenting what I said and calling me a liar?

Why don't you at some point grow up and start acting like a professional?

KNC pay you, you could stop embarrassing them with your purile, childish and churlish messages on this forum, now that you are back to full time shilling on here. It's pretty obvious it's the first real job you've ever had in your life and you don't even know how to act. Just take some advice and stop acting like a broken record and a big baby.

Why don't you do something professional, like tell KNC customers for certain when those parts that you claimed would be 5-10 days late are scheduled for delivery? And not just BS by saying things will be "rosy" in a weeks time. That, for those who can count, is 12 days from the 15th, not 5-10. But deadlines and dates mean nothing to you eh?

tl/dr
Pathetic child called buttcoinorama continues to misrepresent what people say, misleads customers with bs and acts totally unprofessionally on public forum, further tarnishing name of tawdry and greedy purveyor of fault goods company he works for.

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These miners don't require much power and at least in my opinion do not require a 220 line like a 20,000 BTU air conditioner does. A Jupiter is only pulling what 600? 700?


I think his point was that he had other power issues. Those issues were likely causing small voltage fluctuations and perhaps even drop-outs.

We have 220 (110-0-110) 100 Amp service as well. With all the shop equipment and computer mapping equipment it's touch and go when appliances kick in and the motors spike.

Those are the things you worry about.

There is no reason the supplies recommended could not run on 220V lines -- more efficiently.

Lots of my equipment can run on 220V and draws less current -- runs more efficiently and cooler -- and typically has slightly less power draw because of those improvements.

That aside -- you are correct --normally it would not be worth the effort to run 200 Amp service.  Especially to service a device that only draws 600 -- 700 Watts nominal.

But -- it would be good practice to run your miner(s) on a dedicated circuit -- were it easily done.

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Yes indeed...other issues.
I have a huge farm, remember....and a home....  the service line is now seperate from the well pump, microwave, toaster,coffee pot, vacum cleaner...and every other electrical disruption.
It DOES indeed make a difference!

These miners don't require much power and at least in my opinion do not require a 220 line like a 20,000 BTU air conditioner does. A Jupiter is only pulling what 600? 700?



think he ment 20 amp line usa direct (only thing on it is asic gear) vs probably a 15amp with other clutter on the line. so if I had a 15 amp wire line I'd replace the wire to the next gauge up 20amp and 20amp breaker etc...maybe overkill ..just saying   ..or at least that is what I did....... just in case...running a separate circuit in to the breaker box in the basement direct.

No I said 200 amp SERVICE line. The FAT MAIN line that feeds your home, direct from the pole!
My sub-panel is like 250 feet from the roadpole and main box.
I added service line from the pole to the home.
I had a substandard, temporary line, that was meant for construction use. I installed all this myself.... I do ALL my own work. Built my home.


after 12 hours on the new line...

The answer is Yes, a nice. very steady hashrate now!
a couple days will show better I think...
I was noticing that with every pot of coffee, the rate would dip, every vacuum, the rate would dip.....use the water....take a shower...the rate would dip....
no more.
In my studies....  frequency counts alot towards efficiency. This is yet another example.  Let it have it's 60hz unwavered. (50hz in EU)
A power factor correction cap may do the same.... if you rent...  or those backup power supplies.....
I dont have that option with so many machines...


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November 20, 2013, 05:28:35 PM
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And this is exactly why I am having a 200 amp line installed at the new house we just purchased. 

The hash rate stability and the revenue increase outweighs the small expense of getting the hydro company to run the new line.

Thanks for showing the graph, it is nice to see this demonstrated with the numbers to back it up.

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November 20, 2013, 05:35:12 PM
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And this is exactly why I am having a 200 amp line installed at the new house we just purchased.  

The hash rate stability and the revenue increase outweighs the small expense of getting the hydro company to run the new line.

Thanks for showing the graph, it is nice to see this demonstrated with the numbers to back it up.


You are mighty welcome...
You will see the difference!
  What I did, was install 2 -100 amp sub-panels....one for computers, and the other for the farm.....
so the miners & computers have a dedicated 100 amp line...  all the way...
and installed enough circuits & breakers to ensure I use no more than 60% of the rated draw on a 20 amp breaker...
(2200watts... I try to use only 1200-1300 per)... so like only 2 jupiters per 20 amp breaker
Now I'm ready for those November babies!  Rush it! Haaaa
Because every BIT counts.... Har-deee-harrrrrr
Here's the entire graph if you're curious...
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1LnqQzhbp1udcqByNZWnveHXJorDuJHWRs
The last 12 hours is all its been hooked up...(from the last dip you see there...)  but can clearly see a difference already....


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HI O'rama,

any news about the tuning suite? we are waiting for it :-)
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Yes Phoenix1969!! 3 November Jupiters total on order between myself and my partner. Super excited and cant wait! Hopefully its soon!

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Yes Phoenix1969!! 3 November Jupiters total on order between myself and my partner. Super excited and cant wait! Hopefully its soon!
Hehe... You sound nearly as excited as I am!.... Great to hear... Good luck!
About the same situation here... 2 are mine, one for the fly'in Aussie...we tried to get the 4th, but remember when I had the BTC transfer issue?..(While making a transfer, ALWAYS include the fee). It took almost two full days to make it into the blockchain! That little mistake costed us the last Jupiter....we missed it, and by the time we were ready... to pull the trigger on his jupiter....the order got cancelled. (We loan BTC back & fourth for buying power)... he's pretty upset, and turned into an angry GORILLA on me, e-mailed knc, etc....   but I'm sure he will get over it...  hopefully.


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November 20, 2013, 06:36:23 PM
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did  november shipping starts?Huh Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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November 20, 2013, 06:40:13 PM
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did  november shipping starts?Huh Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Not yet Jelin!... any day.....  soon as those parts come in....


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November 20, 2013, 06:41:47 PM
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ok friend

thanks


i will wait  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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November 20, 2013, 07:15:04 PM
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When shipping was supposed to start on November 15th, Knc sent out an update saying that shipping would be delayed 5-10 days due to a missing part.

They haven't provided an update since then, but I would expect to hear something before the 25th.
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November 20, 2013, 07:27:19 PM
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Is it public data how many Jupiters will be shipped in KnC November batch?

Bitcoinrama, do you know that?
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November 20, 2013, 07:39:46 PM
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Is it public data how many Jupiters will be shipped in KnC November batch?

Bitcoinrama, do you know that?

I think the technical term is "lots and lots".

Most likely the final K.O. punch toward the other companies that are delayed.
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November 20, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
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Happily my module is actually in the US.  It's moved from Philly to Louisville,KY.

Not only that but the Arctic Freezer i30 which seems to have been missing is tracking as in Atlanta just now.

So, I'm good.  Everyone else good?
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