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November 21, 2013, 04:32:43 PM
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I have been reading the thread and trying to find out the best pool for a Nov order, so I can preconfigure my miner.  

I have started a poll on new thread.  

Can you please vote.  Thanks in advance



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341888.0


As far as I am aware Eligius and Ghash.io are the only 2 pools that:

  • have fast enough speeds that you don't have no worry about variance
  • have zero fees
  • have merged mining (Eligius gives you 105% NMC while GHash.io gives you NMC, IXC and Devcoin)
  • TX fees are shared between miners


So for a maximum profit these 2 are the best pools.

there seems to be no option to choose ghash.io in the preconfigure pool menu on the KnC site / order page, which is a problem.  unless they are easy to configure.


ROFL= about variance...

I may try .io if there were a good set of directions....the wiki is vague.
it gives desktop directions....we have stanalone machines...


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November 21, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
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What's the general recommendation for running the "enable all cores" patch? Is it wise to run if a Jupiter is running average / just below average hash speeds? Any glitches encountered?

If you ar on fw 0.99, then no! Enable cores is inside the cgkncminer!

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November 21, 2013, 04:36:07 PM
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I have been reading the thread and trying to find out the best pool for a Nov order, so I can preconfigure my miner.  

I have started a poll on new thread.  

Can you please vote.  Thanks in advance



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341888.0


As far as I am aware Eligius and Ghash.io are the only 2 pools that:

  • have fast enough speeds that you don't have no worry about variance
  • have zero fees
  • have merged mining (Eligius gives you 105% NMC while GHash.io gives you NMC, IXC and Devcoin)
  • TX fees are shared between miners


So for a maximum profit these 2 are the best pools.

there seems to be no option to choose ghash.io in the preconfigure pool menu on the KnC site / order page, which is a problem.  unless they are easy to configure.


ROFL= about variance...

I may try .io if there were a good set of directions....the wiki is vague.

Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network
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November 21, 2013, 04:37:21 PM
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Hi,

Does anybody know what order number is next for production (approximate)

Regards

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0

according to this thread the last october is 65xx ish.

so i would think around 6600 would be the first Nov batch

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November 21, 2013, 04:37:29 PM
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I have been reading the thread and trying to find out the best pool for a Nov order, so I can preconfigure my miner.  

I have started a poll on new thread.  

Can you please vote.  Thanks in advance



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341888.0


As far as I am aware Eligius and Ghash.io are the only 2 pools that:

  • have fast enough speeds that you don't have no worry about variance
  • have zero fees
  • have merged mining (Eligius gives you 105% NMC while GHash.io gives you NMC, IXC and Devcoin)
  • TX fees are shared between miners


So for a maximum profit these 2 are the best pools.

there seems to be no option to choose ghash.io in the preconfigure pool menu on the KnC site / order page, which is a problem.  unless they are easy to configure.


ROFL= about variance...

I may try .io if there were a good set of directions....the wiki is vague.

Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network
ya, choose a pool that takes hours for each round....    not me!
I'm not in this for charity....
I see you atop Eligius page........ good stuff....you sayin' you'd move when wizkid reaches 25%?
Only a month ago, everyone was worried about a "51% attack", now it's 25%?
What will it be next month?


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November 21, 2013, 04:56:43 PM
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I have been reading the thread and trying to find out the best pool for a Nov order, so I can preconfigure my miner.  

I have started a poll on new thread.  

Can you please vote.  Thanks in advance



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341888.0


As far as I am aware Eligius and Ghash.io are the only 2 pools that:

  • have fast enough speeds that you don't have no worry about variance
  • have zero fees
  • have merged mining (Eligius gives you 105% NMC while GHash.io gives you NMC, IXC and Devcoin)
  • TX fees are shared between miners


So for a maximum profit these 2 are the best pools.

there seems to be no option to choose ghash.io in the preconfigure pool menu on the KnC site / order page, which is a problem.  unless they are easy to configure.


ROFL= about variance...

I may try .io if there were a good set of directions....the wiki is vague.
it gives desktop directions....we have stanalone machines...

It's easy.

1) Create an account on cex.io.
2) Log in to ghash.io using the same user/pass as the account you created on cex.io.
3) Point your miners to the address listed at the top of the mining stats page.
4) Wait a while, then collect mined loot from your cex.io account at your leisure, or set up automatic payouts.

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November 21, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
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Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network
ya, choose a pool that takes hours for each round....    not me!
I'm not in this for charity....
I see you atop Eligius page........ good stuff....you sayin' you'd move when wizkid reaches 25%?
Only a month ago, everyone was worried about a "51% attack", now it's 25%?
What will it be next month?
Judging from your previous posts you are mining 24/7 and not quitting anytime soon. Quite the opposite. You have your moneys ready to be spent on more miners.

If this is the case it makes absolutely no difference whether you are using a large or a small pool, assuming their fees and uptime are the same. Really. No difference at all on the BTC earned.
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November 21, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
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Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network
ya, choose a pool that takes hours for each round....    not me!
I'm not in this for charity....
I see you atop Eligius page........ good stuff....you sayin' you'd move when wizkid reaches 25%?
Only a month ago, everyone was worried about a "51% attack", now it's 25%?
What will it be next month?
Judging from your previous posts you are mining 24/7 and not quitting anytime soon. Quite the opposite. You have your moneys ready to be spent on more miners.

If this is the case it makes absolutely no difference whether you are using a large or a small pool, assuming their fees and uptime are the same. Really. No difference at all on the BTC earned.

This pretty much.

I get paid once a day by eligius ~6BTC why would you want to get paid any sooner?

No one said they are worried about a 25% attack, this is conjecture. But why choose ghash.io/cex.io when they are obviously becoming a large part of the network, why help them when there are other pools that offer the same service?

If wizkid reached 25% I would move sure, takes two seconds. If I had maybe 7-10TH more hashrate I would be solo mining and not even worry about a pool.

Tin Foil Hat -

How do you know CEX.io isn't mining on their own solo pool + since they are tied in with ghash.io, maybe together they have an even larger majority of the network than we think.

Impatience and lack of understanding isn't a reason to not mine at a pool with less % of the network.
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November 21, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
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Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network
ya, choose a pool that takes hours for each round....    not me!
I'm not in this for charity....
I see you atop Eligius page........ good stuff....you sayin' you'd move when wizkid reaches 25%?
Only a month ago, everyone was worried about a "51% attack", now it's 25%?
What will it be next month?
Judging from your previous posts you are mining 24/7 and not quitting anytime soon. Quite the opposite. You have your moneys ready to be spent on more miners.

If this is the case it makes absolutely no difference whether you are using a large or a small pool, assuming their fees and uptime are the same. Really. No difference at all on the BTC earned.
Are there people out there that DON't mine 24/7?    What a waste if so... lol
but...I disagree....I DO agree it SHOULD come out the same....but it doesn't.
early on, I took two identical miners, one pointed at slush, one at eligius, for two days.....
Eliguis payed out about 15% more overall during that time....   try it...you will see.
Maybe it's the extra loot he offers?...some, but not all......
OR... just look up recent blocks,and do the math.....  
Yeah, slushie had larger payouts, but less frequent(obviously)...  
I didn't feel like loosing 15% a day anymore, so settled on Eligius...
I'm actually a bit hesitant to try another....
anyone on ghash.io in here have about 1.25 Th/s I can compare to?


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November 21, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
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Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network
ya, choose a pool that takes hours for each round....    not me!
I'm not in this for charity....
I see you atop Eligius page........ good stuff....you sayin' you'd move when wizkid reaches 25%?
Only a month ago, everyone was worried about a "51% attack", now it's 25%?
What will it be next month?
Judging from your previous posts you are mining 24/7 and not quitting anytime soon. Quite the opposite. You have your moneys ready to be spent on more miners.

If this is the case it makes absolutely no difference whether you are using a large or a small pool, assuming their fees and uptime are the same. Really. No difference at all on the BTC earned.
Are there people out there that DON't mine 24/7?    What a waste if so... lol
but...I disagree....I DO agree it SHOULD come out the same....but it doesn't.
early on, I took two identical miners, one pointed at slush, one at eligius, for two days.....
Eliguis payed out about 15% more overall during that time....   try it...you will see.
Maybe it's the extra loot he offers?...some, but not all......
OR... just look up recent blocks,and do the math.....  
Yeah, slushie had larger payouts, but less frequent(obviously)...  
I didn't feel like loosing 15% a day anymore, so settled on Eligius...
I'm actually a bit hesitant to try another....
anyone on ghash.io in here have about 1.25 Th/s I can compare to?

To be fair I think it needs more than 48 hours to average out, different pools have different "luck" at different times, its only if you are mining in a really tiny pool that it takes too long to find anything.

I had stable output on slush's for a long time, now I'm on bitminter trying to win a Jupiter, but just for this month, I'll try Elgius in December.

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are there any directions for this upgrade module? How do screws? Which, mind you, were loose in the box :O

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Are there people out there that DON't mine 24/7?    What a waste if so... lol
but...I disagree....I DO agree it SHOULD come out the same....but it doesn't.
early on, I took two identical miners, one pointed at slush, one at eligius, for two days.....
Eliguis payed out about 15% more overall during that time....   try it...you will see.
Maybe it's the extra loot he offers?...some, but not all......
OR... just look up recent blocks,and do the math.....  
Yeah, slushie had larger payouts, but less frequent(obviously)...  
I didn't feel like loosing 15% a day anymore, so settled on Eligius...
I'm actually a bit hesitant to try another....
anyone on ghash.io in here have about 1.25 Th/s I can compare to?

I would say the luck was the difference, and whatever the pool had on hand at the time. I've done that before with slush and several other pools, and slush paid out more.

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Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network
ya, choose a pool that takes hours for each round....    not me!
I'm not in this for charity....
I see you atop Eligius page........ good stuff....you sayin' you'd move when wizkid reaches 25%?
Only a month ago, everyone was worried about a "51% attack", now it's 25%?
What will it be next month?
Judging from your previous posts you are mining 24/7 and not quitting anytime soon. Quite the opposite. You have your moneys ready to be spent on more miners.

If this is the case it makes absolutely no difference whether you are using a large or a small pool, assuming their fees and uptime are the same. Really. No difference at all on the BTC earned.

This pretty much.

I get paid once a day by eligius ~6BTC why would you want to get paid any sooner?

No one said they are worried about a 25% attack, this is conjecture. But why choose ghash.io/cex.io when they are obviously becoming a large part of the network, why help them when there are other pools that offer the same service?

If wizkid reached 25% I would move sure, takes two seconds. If I had maybe 7-10TH more hashrate I would be solo mining and not even worry about a pool.

Tin Foil Hat -

How do you know CEX.io isn't mining on their own solo pool + since they are tied in with ghash.io, maybe together they have an even larger majority of the network than we think.

Impatience and lack of understanding isn't a reason to not mine at a pool with less % of the network.
Now I'm even more confused with your standpoint....    above, you say...."Again, please try to choose any other pool at isn't currently 24% of the network",  yet call it "conjecture", and still yet would move away from Eligius if he DID go over 25%...
Ewok confused now.   No matter... I see it's not conjecture, but preference....  
I wish I was pumpin' as much Th/s as you!....  Someday soon...... haaaaa


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To be fair I think it needs more than 48 hours to average out, different pools have different "luck" at different times, its only if you are mining in a really tiny pool that it takes too long to find anything.

I had stable output on slush's for a long time, now I'm on bitminter trying to win a Jupiter, but just for this month, I'll try Elgius in December.

I'll likely be doing this exact same thing.  Good luck trying to win that jupiter.
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Are there people out there that DON't mine 24/7?    What a waste if so... lol
but...I disagree....I DO agree it SHOULD come out the same....but it doesn't.
early on, I took two identical miners, one pointed at slush, one at eligius, for two days.....
Eliguis payed out about 15% more overall during that time....   try it...you will see.
Maybe it's the extra loot he offers?...some, but not all......
OR... just look up recent blocks,and do the math.....  
Yeah, slushie had larger payouts, but less frequent(obviously)...  
I didn't feel like loosing 15% a day anymore, so settled on Eligius...
I'm actually a bit hesitant to try another....
anyone on ghash.io in here have about 1.25 Th/s I can compare to?

I would say the luck was the difference, and whatever the pool had on hand at the time. I've done that before with slush and several other pools, and slush paid out more.
you are probably right....but maybe more to "luck", than luck!


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November 21, 2013, 05:23:44 PM
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I'm curious to know how much power Bargraphics is using for that payout Cheesy

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Please, someone tell me KNC is going to beat 2TH/s in March, NOT to "do it".....  (kidding, really)
I could really use a KNC upcoming equipment teaser....



Hi,

Does anybody know what order number is next for production (approximate)

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Wow. Not touching that one...   lol.


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[2013-11-21 18:02:14] KnC: core 4-166 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row


On my upgrade board. Not sure how to handle.

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No one said they are worried about a 25% attack, this is conjecture. But why choose ghash.io/cex.io when they are obviously becoming a large part of the network, why help them when there are other pools that offer the same service?

If wizkid reached 25% I would move sure, takes two seconds. If I had maybe 7-10TH more hashrate I would be solo mining and not even worry about a pool.

I see this kind of thinking on here a lot, even from people who I know to be very intelligent (Bargraphics, for example Wink ), but I just don't understand how you get there.

It seems to me a logical conclusion that the pools that attract the most users are likely to be pools that are doing whatever it is that miners need/want them to do.

Do you really believe that integrity of the bitcoin network REQUIRES that miners intentionally choose pools that are less successful at attracting miners?  Isn't that kind of a contradiction?

If it's true that the bitcoin network literally requires this kind of behavior on the part of miners, the bitcoin network is doomed, and rightly so.

I suspect that if mining continues to be a centralized affair such as it is now, it may really be the death of the bitcoin network - but don't fool yourself into thinking that encouraging miners to mine on small pools will help the problem - at best, you are discouraging pool operators from competing aggressively, and becoming the best that they can be.

As I have said before, I believe that the only possible real solution is distributed pooled mining like P2pool.  I believe that some distributed pool will eventually emerge that will be good enough and attract enough users that it becomes the 'best' pool (however that is defined), and then the integrity of the bitcoin network will be safe for good.

In the short term, trying to pretend that some miners making a conscious choice to 'save' the network by choosing smaller pools arbitrarily is just self-delusional, contradictory, and will result in pools that are less responsive to the needs of miners.

If you really, really want to 'save' the network right now then design the perfect distributed pool.  Otherwise, make what money you can until someone else does.


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[2013-11-21 18:02:14] KnC: core 4-166 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row


On my upgrade board. Not sure how to handle.

Did you let it run for a while and heat up a little?


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