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November 25, 2013, 11:27:43 AM
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not enough power?

If answer to my comment than i am using Lepa 16000 and kikkawatt shows barely 600 watts being used ....
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November 25, 2013, 11:34:18 AM
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is it still hashing?
Have you tried another fan?

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November 25, 2013, 11:41:09 AM
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Trouble shooting wise.

Make sure all the power cables are correctly attached.
Do a hard reset on the device:

The cables are correctly attached (powering down wouldn't have changed them in any case)

I did a hard reset then ran through all the various firmwares before I posted.


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Lastly, If you can isolate the bad board, then you can just return that bad board for an RMA and the miner can continue mining, you don't have to lose the entire miner and 480Gh/s just for one bad board.

I have isolated the bad board.  Being able to RMA a single board changes things somewhat.  I will probably do that after the next difficulty increase.

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November 25, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
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Looks good, but every hardware is different with respect to dud cores. Some is golden and some is scat.

ck, can you elaborate a little on the difference in behaviour & reporting between the 3.8.2 tuned and non-tuned on a KnC miner?
Reporting between the two is identical.

The tuned one simply changes the decision making process about when to turn a core off and back on. Firstly it turns all cores on every time it's starting. However it turns cores off very quickly instead of after many errors, but turns cores off in a staggered fashion a few seconds apart. Then it turns them back on after only a minute, but will only turn cores back on if no core on/off has happened for the last minute staggering them much more to turn them back on. My observations were that turning dud cores off always helps the hashrate so making it easier to turn cores off made sense, but with rapid changes to the number of cores on/off, the power going to the units changes wildly when in fact the device will be more stable if it only ever changes power requirements slowly, hence the changes. It also increases the duration cores are off every time they fail before disabling them permanently (for that run of cgminer).

Anyway I find the hashrate and consequently the hardware error rate keeps improving over time as only the decent cores are left hashing, and cores that are borderline turn on and off intermittently in a staggered way that doesn't change the power requirements dramatically.

So with 3.8.2 non-tuned my HW error rate is like 1.5% when I was running the older tuned version it was enabling and disabling cores all the time and I had a HW error rate closer to 5%

Non tuned doesn't disable the cores, but tuned does if they return X number of errors. So with non tuned its just getting errors back from the "bad" cores, but the error rate would seem to refute that.

Sorry, just trying to get my head around it. Logically I would think that my Jupiter has the same amount of cores giving out errors regardless of the software used.

I'll leave non-tuned running for another day, output seems stable after 24 hours, but I'm still interested to see if the tuned version will make any difference to both the HW and overall avg output.

Thanks

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November 25, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
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(...)
Now the problem.  I shut the full speed unit down for a few minutes to change locations and when I restarted it cgminer fails to start.  The bone boots and I can tty into it.  I can try to manually start cgminer and I get a "cgminer failed to start: Write Error".
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I'm not able to find the string 'Write Error' (without caps as well) in cgminer source code.
Is it the exact error msg you get ?

The error seems to have been thrown by /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh
I can't seem to reproduce it right now.  Instead I am getting "-sh: etc/init.d/cgminer: not found"  however "less /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh" gives:

Code:
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
DAEMON=/usr/bin/cgminer
NAME=cgminer
DESC="Cgminer daemon"

set -e

test -x "$DAEMON" || exit 0

do_start() {
        # Stop SPI poller
        spi_ena=0
        i2cset -y 2 0x71 2 $spi_ena

        good_ports=""
        bad_ports=""

        # CLear faults in megadlynx's
        for b in 3 4 5 6 7 8 ; do
                for d in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; do
                        i2cset -y $b 0x1$d 3 >/dev/null 2>&1 || true
                done
        done

        for p in 0 1 2 3 4 5 ; do
                i2cset -y 2 0x71 1 $((p+1))
                good_flag=0
                ar="$(spi-test -s 50000 -OHC -D /dev/spidev1.0 0x80,3,0,0,0,0,0,0 | tail -c 13)"
                if [ "x$ar" = "x00 30 A0 01" ] ; then
                        good_flag=1
                fi
                ar="$(spi-test -s 50000 -OHC -D /dev/spidev1.0 0x80,2,0,0,0,0,0,0 | tail -c 13)"
                if [ "x$ar" = "x00 30 A0 01" ] ; then
                        good_flag=1
                fi
                ar="$(spi-test -s 50000 -OHC -D /dev/spidev1.0 0x80,1,0,0,0,0,0,0 | tail -c 13)"
                if [ "x$ar" = "x00 30 A0 01" ] ; then
                        good_flag=1
                fi
                ar="$(spi-test -s 50000 -OHC -D /dev/spidev1.0 0x80,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 | tail -c 13)"
                if [ "x$ar" = "x00 30 A0 01" ] ; then
                        good_flag=1
                fi

                if [ "$good_flag" = "1" ] ; then
                        good_ports=$good_ports" $p"
                else
                        bad_ports=$bad_ports" $p"
                fi
        done
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If so I guess your issue is located somewhere in the OS.
Anything useful in the log file ?

*Note: journalctl is the replacement for a "less /var/log/syslog"
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journalctl.html

I have not gotten a result from journalctl.  Probably because it is not in the path and I don't know where to find it.

I haven't messed with a Unix system for 30 years so I am a little rusty.  :-)  I would be more at home in JCL.  I guess in the morning I will have to go find a good Linux book.

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November 25, 2013, 12:12:32 PM
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hi people

where i can buy EVGA - SuperNOVA 1300 G

and send to Europe

cheap price

thanks anyone know

looking job
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November 25, 2013, 12:18:40 PM
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The error seems to have been thrown by /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh
I can't seem to reproduce it right now.  Instead I am getting "-sh: etc/init.d/cgminer: not found"  however "less /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh" gives:

It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, no?

just execute the command:

Code:
/etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart



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November 25, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
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write error could mean the beaglebone storage is full or corrupted.

in putty:
df -h will show the disk space
fdisk -l will show the partition info


root@Jupiter-3D0:/# df -h
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                245.1M         0    245.1M   0% /dev
/dev/mmcblk0p3          511.7M     80.0K    511.6M   0% /config




root@Jupiter-3D0:/# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 1920 MB, 1920991232 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 58624 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

        Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1   *           1        8192      262136   c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/mmcblk0p2            8193       16384      262144   c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/mmcblk0p3           16385       32768      524288  83 Linux

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot1: 1 MB, 1048576 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 32 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot1 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot0: 1 MB, 1048576 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 32 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot0 doesn't contain a valid partition table


The doesn't contain a valid partition table bit bothers me.

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November 25, 2013, 12:25:02 PM
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hi people

where i can buy EVGA - SuperNOVA 1300 G

and send to Europe

cheap price

thanks anyone know

https://skinflint.co.uk/eu/evga-supernova-1300-g2-1300w-atx-2-3-120-g2-1300-xr-a1004057.html

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November 25, 2013, 12:27:01 PM
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TaggedYa,

I'm wondering whether you removed the first line from the cgminer.sh ?

Your quoted script is missing
Code:
#!/bin/sh

concerning the log file, It was an educated guess - sorry It did not help
you could search for the log-file location with
Code:
find / -regex 'syslog|messages'

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November 25, 2013, 12:28:43 PM
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write error could mean the beaglebone storage is full or corrupted.

in putty:
df -h will show the disk space
fdisk -l will show the partition info


The doesn't contain a valid partition table bit bothers me.

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No mines the same. OK so its not out of space. Its just wierd that it boots but cgminer won't run.

Have you tried calling support?

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November 25, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
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The error seems to have been thrown by /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh
I can't seem to reproduce it right now.  Instead I am getting "-sh: etc/init.d/cgminer: not found"  however "less /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh" gives:

It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, no?

just execute the command:

Code:
/etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart




It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, YES?  Stupid error

Results:

root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart
Restarting Cgminer daemon: killall: cgminer: no process killed
Error: Write failed


root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh start
Starting Cgminer daemon: Error: Write failed


root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh stop
Stopping Cgminer daemon: killall: cgminer: no process killed
cgminer.

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November 25, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
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bless u biffa. i KNOW when im being a dick, and its usually intentional...

i agree phoenix HAS made some great contributions, but hes also made some absolutely shit ones and seems to not know the difference nor appreciate constructive criticism.

anyway, now hes given it a rest the thread can continue to provide much needed & appreciated support.

thx again and ill try & tone it down a touch.

i considered removing the blue extensions but so far im leaving it at 529Gh - i'll maybe have another fiddle when he Nov shipment arrives.

Dont wanna make it worse until i have some backup hashing power Wink
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November 25, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
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The error seems to have been thrown by /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh
I can't seem to reproduce it right now.  Instead I am getting "-sh: etc/init.d/cgminer: not found"  however "less /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh" gives:

It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, no?

just execute the command:

Code:
/etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart




It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, YES?  Stupid error

Results:

root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart
Restarting Cgminer daemon: killall: cgminer: no process killed
Error: Write failed


root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh start
Starting Cgminer daemon: Error: Write failed


root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh stop
Stopping Cgminer daemon: killall: cgminer: no process killed
cgminer.

TaggedYa

strange.

since there're a lot of things going on when you issue a cgminer.sh start and a lot of those are related with the initialization of the asic boards I'm afraid that there's something wrong going on in this phase.
this are all the tasks performed:

Code:
root@lucas:~# fgrep \# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh
#!/bin/sh
        # Stop SPI poller
        # CLear faults in megadlynx's
                        # Re-enable PLL
                        # re-enable all cores
                        # Disable PLL
                        # disable all cores
        # Disable direct SPI
        # Enable SPI poller

all of them involved some sort of i2cset command executions.

If I were you I would join #kncminer channel on freenode and try to ask hno (an OrSoC eng) if he have an idea of what's going on.







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November 25, 2013, 01:03:44 PM
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i am testing right now cgminer-tune with my jupiter that has got some problems at the beginning and is mining at 520GH with 3.8.1. i can report that the jupiter is hashing now at 480GH Sad. and i am not sure but it takes some time till the working diff has changed usually i think it got changed faster. i am mining on eligius btw.

i will update you in 2-3h.

edit:
after one hour it is working at 511GH/s
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November 25, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
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I have been trying to figure out why two of my boards (one new, one old) from upgrading my Saturn now are reporting dead dies 0-3 with no output wattage for the two boards. Running enablecores hasn't changed anything, and firmware 0.98.1 didnt work and neither did the older firmwares. They both don't hash on any port now and I'm running a XFX Black Edition 1050W with a Seasonic 1250W Gold coming in later today. My bertmod output with the two dead boards are below:

Mining Status

CGMiner Status   Running (pid=1642)
Last Checked   Sun Nov 24 21:46:28 UTC 2013
Avg. Hash Rate   0 Gh/s
WU   0
Difficulty Accepted    0
HW Status

ASIC slot #1   -
ASIC slot #2   -
ASIC slot #3   29.5 ℃
ASIC slot #4    -
ASIC slot #5   28.5 ℃
ASIC slot #6   -
STATUS=S
When=1385243153
Code=11
Msg=Summary
Description=cgminer 3.8.1|SUMMARY
Elapsed=496
MHS av=0.00
MHS 5s=0.00
Found Blocks=0
Getworks=22
Accepted=0
Rejected=0
Hardware Errors=0
Utility=0.00
Discarded=34
Stale=0
Get Failures=0
Local Work=553
Remote Failures=0
Network Blocks=4
Total MH=0.0000
Work Utility=0.00
Difficulty Accepted=0.00000000
Difficulty Rejected=0.00000000
Difficulty Stale=0.00000000
Best Share=0
Device Hardware%=0.0000
Device Rejected%=0.0000
Pool Rejected%=0.0000
Pool Stale%=0.0000|
ASIC Board   Info
2   
Temperature sensor: 29.5 C

Die ID   Cores ON   Cores OFF    %
0   0    48   0
1    0   48   0
2   0   48   0
3   0   48    0
DC/DC ID   ON/OFF   Status   Input Voltage    Output Voltage   Output Current
0   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.774 V   0.188 A
1   No DC/DC detected
2   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.756 V    0.125 A
3   No DC/DC detected
4   ON   OK   12.1 V    0.761 V   0.125 A
5    No DC/DC detected
6    No DC/DC detected
7   ON   OK   12.1 V    0.766 V   0.375 A
4   
Temperature sensor: 28.5 C

Die ID   Cores ON    Cores OFF   %
0    0   48   0
1   0   48   0
2   0   48    0
3   0    48   0
DC/DC ID   ON/OFF   Status    Input Voltage   Output Voltage   Output Current
0   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.783 V    0.312 A
1   No DC/DC detected
2   ON   OK   12.1 V    0.771 V   0.312 A
3    No DC/DC detected
4   ON   OK   12.1 V    0.742 V   0.25 A
5    No DC/DC detected
6    No DC/DC detected
7   ON   OK   12.1 V    0.771 V   0.375 A
Total DC/DC power output: 0 W


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November 25, 2013, 02:26:15 PM
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Heads-up for tomo BTW - incoming...

is this kind of post considered useful?


why not be a tad less 'cryptic' and you(r inbox) might not get abused so much...


Also want to add, my ambient temps are 30C - 86F.

 so statements regarding VRMs needing heating and/or not liking cooling is NOT a fact covering ALL rigs/VRMs and even when they are hot(ter) they dont ALL fall back into line....

im sure ive mentioned this...

As for 'wiggling' the heatsink aka 'cooling tower' - i think ill give that a miss.

i personally dont want to hear 'warranty' is void due to negligence/abuse/possibly insane advice (though it might just work)
Nobody said the temp issue covered "All rigs", and you still don't get what sharing info is about helping others in need, who ARE having problems.... and if you cared to read just a few posts more, before bashing O'rama, you would have seen that he spelled it out for those who can't "Read between the lines", but you still even missed it.
What is your problem? Someone piss in your Cornflakes?
I also stated clocking the heat-sink was a desperation move on my part, and that the temp thing was NOT a recommendation.
It was a question!!!
But.. it has helped others.
There are two options when you have a board that isn't performing up to spec as I see it..... RMA it, or try to get it going yourself.
Which one you try, is up to the owner...
I'm an "Open book" in here, which is something I'm not used to...  but if I can help someone, by golly..I'll do it....and share every conventional AND unconventional solutions I find. It is then up to you as the fellow KNC miner owner to make a decision based on how you feel about it.
You would rather see everyone with a simple glitch on board do an RMA when they could possibly be fixed so simply?
Not me...  Grin

The temp issue is confusing.  ASICs will have increased errors as heat increases since impurities will cause triggering of gates at random causing illogical conditions which themselves can cause more heat.  If VRMs are running better hot than cool then I would think something is wrong, e.g. some open that closes with expansion due to heat, otherwise I don't see how heat can improve operation.



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November 25, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
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I am not sure this is the right place for this but this seems to be a catch all thread so here goes.

I have 2 late October Jupiters.  One I was able to get to 550 with all cores running under 98.1 beta.  The other has 2 cores on one board that will not work until 73C or 74C and as soon as they start the whole board shuts down (I assume thermal shutdown) so it only works at around 480.

I was living with that (not economically feasible to give up 480 hashes for 2 weeks to rma the thing just to maybe get another 60 or so).

Now the problem.  I shut the full speed unit down for a few minutes to change locations and when I restarted it cgminer fails to start.  The bone boots and I can tty into it.  I can try to manually start cgminer and I get a "cgminer failed to start: Write Error".

I tried changing firmware.  Cgminer will run on 98 but not on anything after and on 98 I have all die 0s dead.

Anyone have any clues?

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Put a voltmeter on your power supplys and check you have ~5v and ~12v.  Also, I found my 4 pin molex could have been a little loose on the pins and closed the "tubes" a bit to fit more snugly on the board mounted 4 pin molex pins.



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November 25, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
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Ok the Noob , (thats me) got it working....

So i upgraded the modules and my saturn is hashing at a jupiter speed ...only one prob ...the front fans on casing have stopped working ...any idea why and solution ?

12v to the 4 pin molex is missing or needs a common ground.



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