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November 20, 2013, 01:03:46 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


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November 20, 2013, 01:07:20 AM
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**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down....
just be aware of that.
sweet lookin' setup btw...  Wink

from the MDT040A0X docs.
Wide operating temperature range [-40°C to105°C]

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
But thx for appreciating the aesthetics.


whatever...  okay....cool away....
it was only posted like a dozen times by different folks, but I guess I'm wrong.

The amount of folks and the amount of times posted does not trump physics.

I could be wrong, I don't claim otherwise, you do.

What if the fix is reduced output from the VRM's when they are over 75C?
If so, it might be possible to back them off in software, without the heat gun.

The VRM's on my boards are running ~75C when I have the ghetto cardboard air tunnel removed.

The docs say to expect a drop in output near this temperature.

http://www.lineagepower.com/oem/pdf/MDT040A0X.pdf

top right page 7 (@0.6V)  &  page 8 (@ 1.2V)
guestimate between them for 0.9V


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November 20, 2013, 01:12:40 AM
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Agree, Water is the choice for thermal reasons alone.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried this stuff in a PC/miner liquid cooling system to increase its performance:

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=74&pcid=10

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November 20, 2013, 01:27:12 AM
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Hi LiqCooling Cowboys!

Whats about your hashrates, temp, hw errors and so on,
if you give green light then i will cool it too liquid.


I figured out that:


Different Temps on different AsicBoard has different amount of HW errors.

When i think about this situation above in the pic, then i need an Cooling Fan System with external
thermalsensor, or somthing to increase and decrease the speed of the fans.

I have on Asic_3 one original fan repalced with an highspeed corsair fan = blow air
and on the other side of the cooler two 120 mm fans which are sucking the air.

Also on top of all this one:
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November 20, 2013, 01:30:22 AM
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Hi LiqCooling Cowboys!

Whats about your hashrates, temp, hw errors and so on,
if you give green light then i will cool it too liquid.


I figured out that:


Different Temps on different AsicBoard has different amount of HW errors.

Wow these are some cool temps. Especially the 1st one.

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November 20, 2013, 01:31:03 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


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Got them in Stockholm.

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November 20, 2013, 01:36:18 AM
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Hi LiqCooling Cowboys!

Whats about your hashrates, temp, hw errors and so on,
if you give green light then i will cool it too liquid.


I figured out that:


Different Temps on different AsicBoard has different amount of HW errors.

Wow these are some cool temps. Especially the 1st one.

I HAVE NO liquid cooling
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November 20, 2013, 02:00:07 AM
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On the fedex/ups talks, I use both regularly. UPS never fails me for normal deliveries or even 2nd-day or same day air. FedEx next day and same day air is also good.

However, normal ground deliveries? FedEx blows.

I know it's not a consolation, but I ordered a curtain rod last week and used FedEx. The shipment came from one state, passed by my house, went to another state, went back past my state, and then got left in a fedex courier facility where it's sat for 4 days.

They're still trying to assess the issue.

The issue was I used FedEx.
A couple years ago, I went into a fedex office to check pricing for a package to xyz, since I was in their neighborhood.

They handed me a triplicate form with a gazillion lines on it and told me to fill it out.  ER, you can't give me a price quote until I take 20 minutes out of my life?Huh  Goodbye & good riddens. Haven't been back since.

What a great business model, the CEO must've gone to a govt funded university.  WOW/// 
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November 20, 2013, 02:42:15 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


very pretty....

Searing

I notice in this and in another photo the rears are almost abutting the wall.  VRMs do get hot and their heat effects the modules.  I put a piece of cardboard between the VRMs and the module and flow air in a tunnel - easy it's a Merc and only a single module so cardboard on the outside of the PCB making the tunnel, the air passes over the VRMs and out the back - being kept sequestered from the module as it were, in addition to the Arctic Freezer w/fan.  When the extra module gets here it will go behind the first as my power supplies will be on the left.  I will probably mount two 2" diag 12v fans on the board blowing right toward the VRMs and perhaps a 120mm fan to the back behind the added module pulling air out.



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November 20, 2013, 02:44:52 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


very pretty....

Searing

I notice in this and in another photo the rears are almost abutting the wall.  VRMs do get hot and their heat effects the modules.  I put a piece of cardboard between the VRMs and the module and flow air in a tunnel - easy it's a Merc and only a single module so cardboard on the outside of the PCB making the tunnel, the air passes over the VRMs and out the back - being kept sequestered from the module as it were, in addition to the Arctic Freezer w/fan.  When the extra module gets here it will go behind the first as my power supplies will be on the left.  I will probably mount two 2" diag 12v fans on the board blowing right toward the VRMs and perhaps a 120mm fan to the back behind the added module pulling air out.

It's a skewed perspective. I just measured the distance and there is 17cm between the miners and the wall.

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November 20, 2013, 02:50:14 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


very pretty....

Searing

I notice in this and in another photo the rears are almost abutting the wall.  VRMs do get hot and their heat effects the modules.  I put a piece of cardboard between the VRMs and the module and flow air in a tunnel - easy it's a Merc and only a single module so cardboard on the outside of the PCB making the tunnel, the air passes over the VRMs and out the back - being kept sequestered from the module as it were, in addition to the Arctic Freezer w/fan.  When the extra module gets here it will go behind the first as my power supplies will be on the left.  I will probably mount two 2" diag 12v fans on the board blowing right toward the VRMs and perhaps a 120mm fan to the back behind the added module pulling air out.

It's a skewed perspective. I just measured the distance and there is 17cm between the miners and the wall.

Well, if you think 3/4" is enough....



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November 20, 2013, 02:52:15 AM
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It's a skewed perspective. I just measured the distance and there is 17cm between the miners and the wall.

Well, if you think 3/4" is enough....

17cm = 6.7 inches

You are thinking mm

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This is actually a bit embarrassing, but it may help someone with a bad die/no amps on a VRM. I just got done installing a new 200amp service line to my home, and was very happy to shut down, to move the miners to the new, more powerful circuit... When I rebooted, one of the miners wasn't up to speed...
So, using bertmod, was able to quickly identify the board, and that a vrm wasnt getting any amps..(0.34).  I tried every enablecore, cooling, heating trick i could think of, and was really scratching my head, because that miner was the fastest before. I fiddled and prodded, tried every connection, and guess what....
It was a loose pci cable connection on the board...  I gave it a wiggle, and bertmod showed it fired right up!  Now we know yet another thing to look for... those pci connections can fool ya, and are connection critical....  


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For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting.

Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs.

Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation.

You need to read between the lines.   What i took from it was..  It's fine as long as we have a the right to cease funds, and every exchange muh collect personal details, same as a bank. 

I guess people only heard what they wanted to here!  crypto will carry on regardless
What I got "Between the lines" Is that they want traceability, and identity; they were promised that....end of story.
Look for a huge jump in BTC price now! Wow.


The price is actually dropping.

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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


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very pretty....

Searing

I notice in this and in another photo the rears are almost abutting the wall.  VRMs do get hot and their heat effects the modules.  I put a piece of cardboard between the VRMs and the module and flow air in a tunnel - easy it's a Merc and only a single module so cardboard on the outside of the PCB making the tunnel, the air passes over the VRMs and out the back - being kept sequestered from the module as it were, in addition to the Arctic Freezer w/fan.  When the extra module gets here it will go behind the first as my power supplies will be on the left.  I will probably mount two 2" diag 12v fans on the board blowing right toward the VRMs and perhaps a 120mm fan to the back behind the added module pulling air out.

It's a skewed perspective. I just measured the distance and there is 17cm between the miners and the wall.

Cyper, do your the guy a lot of Saturn owners didn't get a chance to upgrade their miners!


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November 20, 2013, 06:32:00 AM
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one more note and I'll shut up for the evening....  hehe
The new dedicated electrical service line for the miners really is looking to be helping stability as well.
I'll share graph results tomorrow when there's a 12 hour result.....
Night all


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November 20, 2013, 07:00:19 AM
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one more note and I'll shut up for the evening....  hehe
The new dedicated electrical service line for the miners really is looking to be helping stability as well.
I'll share graph results tomorrow when there's a 12 hour result.....
Night all

yep the only thing I have on my 20amp circuit in the basement is the miner and an old evon800v laptop to run putty ..and of course the sep fans blowing from the outside on the open case...also have a pretty heavy duty ISO power brick.........for all I know it may have some kinda elec filter stuff going on *was given to me forget how*


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November 20, 2013, 08:01:19 AM
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These miners don't require much power and at least in my opinion do not require a 220 line like a 20,000 BTU air conditioner does. A Jupiter is only pulling what 600? 700?


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November 20, 2013, 08:35:13 AM
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These miners don't require much power and at least in my opinion do not require a 220 line like a 20,000 BTU air conditioner does. A Jupiter is only pulling what 600? 700?


I think his point was that he had other power issues. Those issues were likely causing small voltage fluctuations and perhaps even drop-outs.

We have 220 (110-0-110) 100 Amp service as well. With all the shop equipment and computer mapping equipment it's touch and go when appliances kick in and the motors spike.

Those are the things you worry about.

There is no reason the supplies recommended could not run on 220V lines -- more efficiently.

Lots of my equipment can run on 220V and draws less current -- runs more efficiently and cooler -- and typically has slightly less power draw because of those improvements.

That aside -- you are correct --normally it would not be worth the effort to run 200 Amp service.  Especially to service a device that only draws 600 -- 700 Watts nominal.

But -- it would be good practice to run your miner(s) on a dedicated circuit -- were it easily done.

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November 20, 2013, 09:15:14 AM
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Good morning folks.
Hope everyone gets good news today on their packages...  Wink
If not, read this..... it will make you smile...
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/11/Bitcoin.pdf
a cool mil a coin.... wow, that's quite an estimate...... lol
Shocked wow Phoenix, you've been digging up some of the most interesting articles on bitcoin.

Simply fantastic reading.

Thanks and cheers
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