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looking for some pcie power conectors for severals cubes. anyone know where could i find some at good prices ?  Smiley
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April 25, 2015, 05:13:35 PM
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looking for some pcie power conectors for severals cubes. anyone know where could i find some at good prices ?  Smiley
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 Try this guy:

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April 25, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
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looking for some pcie power conectors for severals cubes. anyone know where could i find some at good prices ?  Smiley
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Sold 4 of these on ebay for 34$ a month ago to someone from Estonia  Roll Eyes
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@xhomerx10 & @mishax1 :   Thank you for your quick answer  Wink
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April 27, 2015, 12:51:54 PM
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looking for some pcie power conectors for severals cubes. anyone know where could i find some at good prices ?  Smiley
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Buy some (broken) Block Erupter Cube 30-38 GH/s and get 2 pcs, only in black color. Better than the original Neptune PCI-E.


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April 27, 2015, 04:51:34 PM
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I had a great chat with Joakim today, he is one of the lowyers that handle the case against KnC.

One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.

He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.

I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.

I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.


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http://dinratt.se/
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I had a great chat with Joakim today, he is one of the lowyers that handle the case against KnC.

One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.

He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.

I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.

I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.


http://kncclassaction.com/
http://dinratt.se/
http://www.riseco.se/

Did you ask about worst case scenario about losing case?  How much could people need to pay twords KNC for legal, and other fees.

I still think if they believed in it they would not need the retainer, maybe a smaller court fees amount.  But no matter what win or lose these lawyers want to get paid it seems.

But that is my 2 cent's I am no legal expert.
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April 27, 2015, 05:07:14 PM
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looking for some pcie power conectors for severals cubes. anyone know where could i find some at good prices ?  Smiley
thanx in advance  Cool

Buy some (broken) Block Erupter Cube 30-38 GH/s and get 2 pcs, only in black color. Better than the original Neptune PCI-E.


yeah ! this is not a bad idea... probably remains one broken asic miner cube in my stock..

thanx mate !  Grin
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April 27, 2015, 05:42:30 PM
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I had a great chat with Joakim today, he is one of the lowyers that handle the case against KnC.

One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.

He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.

I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.

I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.


http://kncclassaction.com/
http://dinratt.se/
http://www.riseco.se/

Did you ask about worst case scenario about losing case?  How much could people need to pay twords KNC for legal, and other fees.

I still think if they believed in it they would not need the retainer, maybe a smaller court fees amount.  But no matter what win or lose these lawyers want to get paid it seems.

But that is my 2 cent's I am no legal expert.

No I didn't, but I will. Any others that have any question that you wounder about?

I don't think there will be mutch to pay twords KNC if we loose because:
1. We are really many that will split it.
2. As another wrote in a previous post, it isn't possible for KNC to hire 15 top lawyers and think that we will pay for that. It doesn't work that way.
But I will for sure check it up because neither am I a legal expert! Smiley

It would been good if the retainer went down to 5-10%. Think it will be easier for people to join.
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April 27, 2015, 07:24:31 PM
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sorry for little of OT, but what is common retainer for lawyers? anybody knows?
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April 27, 2015, 10:48:55 PM
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sorry for little of OT, but what is common retainer for lawyers? anybody knows?

It depends on lawyer.  I personally have not dealt with one on retainer as it make me think they don't have any skin in the game, they lose... they get money still.

As far as standard if lawyer does not take retainer and depending on what it is I would say around 1/3 rd on a big case.  But you add this to the number when sueing.  So hopefully other side pays lawyer expense but that does not always happen.
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April 27, 2015, 11:09:55 PM
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looking for some pcie power conectors for severals cubes. anyone know where could i find some at good prices ?  Smiley
thanx in advance  Cool

Buy some (broken) Block Erupter Cube 30-38 GH/s and get 2 pcs, only in black color. Better than the original Neptune PCI-E.


yeah ! this is not a bad idea... probably remains one broken asic miner cube in my stock..

thanx mate !  Grin

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April 28, 2015, 03:22:56 AM
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sounds more promising.. i personally think we have a very strong case and will win once more people join the lawsuit.. i was also told by a pretty reliable source that knc lawyer is pretty clueless about knc motives and can't explain why knc had to do certain things in questionable manners... so i anticipate knc will eventually have nowhere to run to as they don't have the kind of financial muscle they used to have... i'm sure 16nm did not come cheap and falling bitcoin prices is just making their situation worse...
 i'm prepared to pay and lose the retainer if that's what it takes because i just can't stand watching these criminals getting by and i think it's one battle worth fighting for... they nuked the forum for just one reason: there was a lot of evidence exposing their fraud so this can be a strong leverage once judge requests for offline copy or database of that forum...

I had a great chat with Joakim today, he is one of the lowyers that handle the case against KnC.

One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.

He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.

I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.

I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.


http://kncclassaction.com/
http://dinratt.se/
http://www.riseco.se/
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April 28, 2015, 02:03:56 PM
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heh managed to sign up for the site in the above FAQ link..it states submit an online form to be considered....seems the link for the online form is not coming
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada

AND their contact email address (info at kncclassaction.com) is not operational. Are these people serious at all??

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April 28, 2015, 04:08:57 PM
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heh managed to sign up for the site in the above FAQ link..it states submit an online form to be considered....seems the link for the online form is not coming
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada

AND their contact email address (info at kncclassaction.com) is not operational. Are these people serious at all??


Okey, sounds weird. But as I said they are makeing a new form. So it should probably work better in a week or two.
And I havn't tried the email on kncclassaction.com
However you could get directly to the Swedish lawyers here:

http://dinratt.se/#kontakt
Joakim Strignert
Telefon: +46708-198891
joakim.strignert@dinratt.se

http://www.riseco.se/kontakt.html
Magnus Daar
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+46 8 402 01 42
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April 29, 2015, 12:49:16 AM
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Does someone knows a solo mining tuto for knc miner ?

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heh managed to sign up for the site in the above FAQ link..it states submit an online form to be considered....seems the link for the online form is not coming
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada

AND their contact email address (info at kncclassaction.com) is not operational. Are these people serious at all??


I have dealt with lawyers not much. Only one decent sized case.  But I can tell you if a law firm did all this then decided they need more info and a new form this far in I would be scared.  I mean did they even look at case till just now realize how big of variety of problems there are? 

So the lawyers are just now looking into it... just now noticing "Holy crap there are a lot of different situations".  And they want paid up front, not doing on a percentage.  Not to mention I don't think they said how much you could owe if you lose.

I wish all well that do this but it would scare the heck out of me.  
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heh managed to sign up for the site in the above FAQ link..it states submit an online form to be considered....seems the link for the online form is not coming
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada

AND their contact email address (info at kncclassaction.com) is not operational. Are these people serious at all??


I have dealt with lawyers not much. Only one decent sized case.  But I can tell you if a law firm did all this then decided they need more info and a new form this far in I would be scared.  I mean did they even look at case till just now realize how big of variety of problems there are? 

So the lawyers are just now looking into it... just now noticing "Holy crap there are a lot of different situations".  And they want paid up front, not doing on a percentage.  Not to mention I don't think they said how much you could owe if you lose.

I wish all well that do this but it would scare the heck out of me.  


yeah this is where I got stuck in the mud.....

1) The fact that the Swedish authorities can get a 'bond' from you in advance along with the fact I do not see any answer from them on how deep a hole you could
be in if you lose to KNC as unlikely as that seems to be I admit......and/or can say if KNC wins can they counter sue you/group action back if they were to win in court
on their reputation (I'm sure they have all my 'lovely' little posts of my 'viewpoint' on their forums) Smiley

2) The fact from what I can tell they can only give enough info to form a decent opinion on if suing KNC is a wise move or not (ie they have some kinda case/strategy) until
AFTER you pay them the retainer ...take the above risks.....in order to look at it all and then in 20/20 hindsight go 'uh oh' that is my cost on a LOSS (faints)

3) The fact I have contacted them 3 times on my Titan 1st batch order on the grounds of 1) Late delivery Nov 6th 2) firmware did not do alts as advertised first couple
months on top of the titan being late and the FUD they put out after the fact changing www pages and keeping old dates to say it was ORIGINALLY ONLY to be
an LTC miner so the above firmware issue did not apply 3) the usual no refund even thou should have got one argument everyone will use 4) The fact that in my
particular case have 2 cubes with 2 dead die each that they refused to RMA saying it was good enough 5) Their admission form day one that the first batch of Titan asic chips were 'not up to par and substandard' but the risk was our own ..the consumers in that it was 'experimental equipment'

Again.....not feeling a lot of love at the Titan end of things with this...at least in a preliminary give me some info on what is what sense.


Still think with SOME of the above applied to Neptunes with the added fact that Neptune owners really got played like a fiddle by KNC ..in that they stalled their
equip to fill their data hall...the long stall on bonus neputunes till worthless and more ...the Neptune owners in my view have a much better shot then my Titan
in this case

and again from what I know the cases are grouped together but again from what I understand each case within the class action is INDIVIDUAL under swedish law

which brings me back to my last concern that the class action will work find for Neptune owners...but with only say 50 cases in the class action you really think
the other side is not gonna 'cherry pick" cases .....ie my case is not as good..ie could i still LOSE even thou others in the class action with different equipment win?

anyway don't jump on me too hard but hard to know what is what IF THEY NEVER REPLY WITH AN EMAIL even one that says to call them directly which I would do

so my take so far is that they have read my emails and the Titan orders as they exist above just don't have enough 'weight' for them to pursue us to join

whatever hopefully I am incorrect on the above and someone here who HAS gotten a reply and IS  a Titan order can set me straight


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Just chiming in here, as I saw some posts in regards to costs related to filing a complaint against KNC in Court.

Truthfully, getting a good legal firm behind you that will work on 100% contingency would likely not be even remotely possible. I think-- due to the stigma with Bitcoin, the fact that even if the plaintiffs prevail, there is no guarantee any money would ever be paid, and last, it would be difficult to ascertain if KNC is even solvent due to the nature of how it keeps its "money".

KNC I think in my opinion, would likely be viewed as judgement proof by any legal firm-- especially so if asked to work on a contingency basis.

That said; and again- I am just popping in and was reading; but the costs to take legal action against KNC fall in a huge range.

 - You file the complaint; they settle. You'd be very lucky for this to happen. This would be the best case scenario for the complainant. I also think it's unlikely KNC will simply pay up.  Regardless; I would budget for this phase no less than $20,000.

- If they don't settle, which they won't, then your legal bills will begin to really- and I mean REALLY, rack up. There is initial discovery, pre-trial discovery, and many phases in-between. Going to actual court, for a trial by jury, would be worst case scenario- and should be viewed as a last resort. I am guessing for a case like this/what I've been reading- budget no less than $250,000+ for this phase. Minimum.

- Then they can, and will likely appeal. Again, for a full process appeal - Six Figures.

Keep in mind you will need to hire a legal firm that can bring the matter to trial in a court that has both subject matter and personal jurisdiction over the complaint.

In terms of a retainer, the firm you hire is going to likely want 1/3 up front. And they will bill- and demand payment on the next portion before your escrow account runs dry.

Also, what ever price they quote you up front- add 20-50%.

Hope this helps. I'm providing this information solely on my experience of being on both sides of an issue - personally. The goal should be... and any lawyer with ethics and a good conscious will tell you- try to resolve by any and all means- WITHOUT going to trial.

Even if you win. There is no guarantee you will ever see a dime. They could go bankrupt. You have to prove assets. Find those assets. This all gets VERY expensive. And your lawyer will tell you that as well.

Good luck guys, it looks like a sad situation and I do feel for you.

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knc are mad cheaters!

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